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Probably because a lot of women have crappy taste in music... They're the ones buying the Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, etc. albums and the Titanic Soundtrack...which are all usually #1. I'd say chicks also buy most of Britney Spears and N'SYNC material. And usually they'll buy them at a discount store like Target or some place like Blockbuster Music... At the music stores I go to, which are all INDIE stores of course, I'm surrounded my a lot of "cool" alternaguys and punk guys. Hardly any chicks... H. Don't really young kids, i.e. what used to be called "teenyboppers," buy most of the Britney Spears and N'SYNC (and now groups like B*witched, Five, etc.)? I have a 10-year old daughter and this is her kind of music, etc... Mariah and Celine are different, perhaps, but with some of these bands I get the impression it's not a gender but an age thing I still haven't had time to look at the demographic breakdown on the RIAA website Jon pointed out, but I'm hoping it has age demos too.. --junior PS. " 'cool' alternaguys ". Whew.
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Cherlyn, I like your use of the word "cornfused." Can I use that? I'll credit you. Deb just got home from The Possibilities -- whoa boy -- they were great!
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Wasn't Cherlyn, that was Cheryl... but anyway, to give credit where credit is due, Tom Ekeberg is the one who first confessed to being cornfused. --Cheryl Cline Cherlyn, I like your use of the word "cornfused." Can I use that? I'll credit you. Deb just got home from The Possibilities -- whoa boy -- they were great!
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Jon Weisberger wrote: Wasn't Cherlyn, that was Cheryl... but anyway, to give credit where credit is due, Tom Ekeberg is the one who first confessed to being cornfused. Not to take anything away from the lovely and talented Mr. Ekeberg, but I believe Homer Jethro made use of the word in one or another of their pieces related to their Kellogg's Corn Flakes ads, and I'm pretty sure it was also used at least occasionally on Hee Haw. H J released an album on Guest Star records in 1963 titled "Don't Be Cornfused". -jp
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Dan Lee wrote: Gender: Continuing the trend from last year, women accounted for a higher percentage of units purchased than men (51.3% vs. 48.7%). really? Does that look funny to anyone else? Well... isn't that about the difference in actual numbers between women and men in the U.S.? Whenever I'm in record stores it seems to me as if it's overwhelmingly male, at least largely so. Of course, those are usually impeccable indie joints g, but I suspect that more men are obsessive collectors, who would naturally frequent indie shops, which carry more specialized "collectors units" for higher prices, so if Dick buys one Bear Family boxed set and Jane buys ten separate CDs for the same price, then Jane's buying more units, even if they're spending the same amount of money. Come to think of it, I guess whenever I do wander through a Wal-Mart or Target or similar place it does seem to be largely women. Still I wonder about that stat Men and women meet in the middle at places like Tower, I think. Or so it always seems to me. Women over 30 accounted for the largest share of purchases, Women over 30??? Here again I thought it was always the 12-25 or so male market that bought the most records. You retail guys and gals will have to edify. I've always heard that it was teenage girls who bought the most records. This may have changed. In the olden days, it was girls who bought the most singles. Now, while I'm thinking about it... Every once in a while the fact is bandied about that country music, especially country radio, targets suburban women. But if this is so, then I must confess that I am cornfused. Because, I did a little bit of websurfing and noticed two things: 1: Two industry sites, The CMA and Gavin, said that gender-wise, the audience for country music was split about 50-50. 2: Looking at the websites for country stations -- including TNN -- I have to conclude that if country radio is really targeting women, then more women than I realized are very interested in hunting, bass fishing, NASCAR, and RollerJam. Maybe this is why Dan sees more women in Walmart than in the impeccably indie stores. I mean, it's *so* much more convenient to pick up some country CDs while shopping for fishing gear. --Cheryl Cline
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Like Cheryl, I'd love to see a more comprehensive breakdown of gender demographics in the contemporary music market... Anyone know where such figures could be had? Also, Cheryl suspects: I suspect that more men are obsessive collectors, Hmmm. I thought it was an established fact that men are obsessive and women hysterical. Or was that just old Freudian dogma, I'm getting confused g... --junior
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Like Cheryl, I'd love to see a more comprehensive breakdown of gender demographics in the contemporary music market... Anyone know where such figures could be had? Start at http://www.riaa.com ; they've got a page's worth of more detailed figures from the 1998 Consumer Profile (including prior years data) available as a .PDF file. On country music in particular, see "Hard-Core and Soft-Shell Country Fans" in the Journal of Country Music, 17:3, which is an interesting look at some 1992 Census Bureau and NORC data, written by Pete Peterson and Roger Kern. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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Thanks for those sources, Jon. I'm going to check them out. --junior
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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gender: Continuing the trend from last year, women accounted for a higher percentage of units purchased than men (51.3% vs. 48.7%). really? Does that look funny to anyone else? Whenever I'm in record stores it seems to me as if it's overwhelmingly male, at least largely so. Of course, those are usually impeccable indie joints g, but Come to think of it, I guess whenever I do wander through a Wal-Mart or Target or similar place it does seem to be largely women. Still I wonder about that stat Probably because a lot of women have crappy taste in music... They're the ones buying the Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, etc. albums and the Titanic Soundtrack...which are all usually #1. I'd say chicks also buy most of Britney Spears and N'SYNC material. And usually they'll buy them at a discount store like Target or some place like Blockbuster Music... At the music stores I go to, which are all INDIE stores of course, I'm surrounded my a lot of "cool" alternaguys and punk guys. Hardly any chicks...
