Re: Clip: Flushed with Success(LONG)

1999-03-22 Thread Will Miner



Those poor folks in the music business ... As I read that article George 
posted, I kept wondering, is it 1977 all over again?  

I dont know much about the economics of the country labels of the time,
but I do remember what was going on in the rawk world.  Back in the later
70s, labels were shrinking their rosters, mostly down to groups who all
sounded the same or who sucked.  This was the period in which the great
minds of the music biz brought you folks like Toto, and in which a band
like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers had a hell of a time getting signed
and got no label support. 

The excuse was that it was just far too expensive to record and promote
and tour a band that couldnt sell less than 500,000 units.  The industry
was only geared to serve bands like The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac, who
could spend several years and several million dollars recording their 
records, not to mention a 20-megaton stage and laser show that would have 
to be dragged around the country, but all of that was OK because they 
were expected to sell 10 zillion albums.

Not only do the people who drag the industry down into these sewers have 
absolutely no taste for good music, they also have no good sense.

Then in 1979, along came The Police, who recorded an album for $6,000 that
sold pretty well and went touring the states without the huge stage show
-- they managed with a couple of old vans.  And while they only played
small clubs, they actually made a profit doing it, a bigger profit than
one of those megamonster bands, the Eagles or the 'Mac, did that year (I
fergit which).  And smart folks (who had some actual taste) started
churning out records on their own independent labels and making some good
money at it. 

Does anyone else find it ironic that the industry is crying tales of woe 
at a time when there is an awful lot of great music coming out?  I 
think that in the last couple of years we've reaped a fine crop, despite 
the fact that only a few of those records have sold a good deal.  Maybe 
this oughta tell us something about whether a commodity as varied and 
elusive and magical as good music is the kind of thing we can capture and 
package and mass produce in endless units like Ford pickups or bars of 
soap. 


Will Miner
Denver, CO






Re: Clip: Flushed with Success(LONG)

1999-03-19 Thread Tom Smith

The difference these days
 is that when it comes to being broke these musicians are not alone. They
 have company: record industry executives. 

While I have great sympathy for anybody who gets dumped 
from a job they've come to consider their livelihood, that's 
about the funniest thing I've read in quite a long time. I 
don't know who'd get a bigger laugh out of it:  one friend 
who got dumped from a label exec job and comfortably 
took a whole year shopping for a new job or my guitarist  
whose late '60s junker is pissing transmission fluid all over 
the place.
Maybe it's all relative . . . or something.
Tom Smith



RE: Clip: Flushed with Success(LONG)

1999-03-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

 np: Shaver, "Victory". Nothin' like a little sangin' about
 Juh-heezus before I start an evening of beer and loud guitars.

Nothin' like making fun of other people's speech and beliefs.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



RE: Clip: Flushed with Success(LONG)

1999-03-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

What's really interesting about the article in P2 terms is the way that it
suggests that the current crisis in country music is similar and related to
a larger crisis in the record bidness generally.  Imagine that.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/






Re: Clip: Flushed with Success(LONG)

1999-03-19 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 3/19/99 3:10:32 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  np: Shaver, "Victory". Nothin' like a little sangin' about
  Juh-heezus before I start an evening of beer and loud guitars.
 
 Nothin' like making fun of other people's speech and beliefs.
  


Y'all will have to excuse Jon. during SXSW he gets lonely and has nobody to
argue with so he picks fights over meaningless things. 

How you see this as "making fun" is beyond me.

No, it's not.

Slim - having a good time.