Re: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-10 Thread Shane S. Rhyne

Howdy,

Cool. I'm through with work for the day (there's still a great big pile of
it on the desk, but I've seen all I care to see of it for the day), so
here's my timely response to an article posted about a week ago...

The Philclip(TM) says of country fashion: Compared to today's styles, the
corn-pone, countrified heydays of Tammy Wynette, Loretta Lynn and Minnie
Pearl seem like a century ago.

If my memory isn't totally faulty, I once saw Loretta Lynn in a gingham Hee
Haw type dress once while guest starring in a Hee Haw skit. I believe that
Mr. Houk chose the wrong examples for illustrating his "corn-pone" evidence.
As a matter of fact, I can't think of two worse examples than Wynette and
Lynn who always seemed to be dressed in formal (or at least semi-formal)
gowns whenever I saw them on stage.

Actually, beyond comedy acts like Minnie Pearl, I'm having a hard time
thinking up the names of women who regularly took the "corn pone" route in
stage costuming. Almost every example I come up with usually involves a Hee
Haw skit, medicine show, or alt-country band.

But that really isn't the part of the article I wanted to quibble about.

Mr. Houk's Dixie Chick article yanks my chain when he says: Why the
change? Take a look at the country as a whole and see how it has morphed.
The Deep South was much more isolated from the rest of the country in 1968
than it is in 1998. Back then, there was a much greater difference between
Janis Joplin and Loretta Lynn than there is between Alanis Morissette and
Shania Twain. Styles worn by Nashville stars tended to stay in Nashville.
Today, with videos and full-time country cable channels, women from
Portland, Maine, to Portland, Ore., can identify with music coming out of
Tennessee.

Umm, I'm sorry was he talking about 1968 or 1768? Thank God for the miracle
of color television so the poor ol' South wouldn't be isolated any more.
Gee-aww-ly, but that new-fangled electricity sure did introduce us to a
whole new world. Oh, and thanks for showing us how to use can openers and
teaching us that we didn't have to use flintlocks, too. We can credit the
end of those particular examples of Southern isolation on the Food Network
and the hunting shows on TNN.

Mostly though, I am weary of the "Southern vacuum" theory. It is tiresome
and more subversive to the Southern culture than anything the producers of
Hee Haw ever dreamed up (Hey, Carl).

I won't argue that there weren't pockets of true isolation, but by and large
those pockets existed by choice (and in the case of this discussion, their
existence in comparison to the whole is negligible). The vast majority of
the South had access to the same tools available elsewhere (in this case,
read: radio, automobiles, trains, movie theaters, newspapers, and other
items which would make true isolation near impossible). Mr. Houk and his ilk
usually confuse the difference between "rural" and "isolated" or fail to
recognize that ethnic (or regional) cultures extend beyond the "isolated"
neighborhoods in the five burroughs.

Referring to the change from the author-defined "tacky" look of the 70s and
80s, the author says: To some, a change this radical is just that; an
aggressive effort to stay current and relevant. Others see it as an
abandonment of country music's roots and soul.

And now, I wonder if this isn't one of those articles Jeff Wall has been
writing in an apparent audition for The Onion. I cannot read further...

Take care,

Shane Rhyne
Knoxville, TN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-05 Thread Matt Benz



[Matt Benz]  I still say the Dixie Chicks look terrible, hair and
outfits wise. Can I get a witness?  



RE: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-05 Thread BARNARD

 [Matt Benz]  I still say the Dixie Chicks look terrible, hair and
 outfits wise. Can I get a witness?  

Heh, they ain't no Carlene Carter, what can I say g.  Should this be on
the fluff list???

--junior



RE: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-05 Thread Matt Benz

Well, I'm not gonna dish on their looks, just the outfits and do's. To
get all Blackwell about it, The Dixie Chicks went scratchin in the wrong
dirt when they picked these outfits. Look away, look away, Dixie land,
indeed!  

 -Original Message-
 From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 9:27 AM
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 Subject:  RE: What Country is Really All About
 
  [Matt Benz]  I still say the Dixie Chicks look terrible, hair and
  outfits wise. Can I get a witness?  
 
 Heh, they ain't no Carlene Carter, what can I say g.  Should this be
 on
 the fluff list???
 
 --junior



RE: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-05 Thread Jon Weisberger

I could care less how the Dixie Chicks dress, so no witness here, Matt.  I
do think it's interesting, though, that the writer of that piece seemed to
think that Tammy Wynette and Loretta Lynn wore gingham frocks throughout
their careers, which is way, way off-base.  The difference is that when they
went upscale in their stage dress, it was in an adult-oriented, "high class"
direction - gowns  gauze, you might say, and this was general true, I
think, at least partway through the 80s (I have a great picture I made at
the Opry in 1987 or 88 of Patty Loveless in a Lynn-type gown), whereas the
Chicks (and Twain, and...) seem to be going for something a tad more, ah,
youth-oriented.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



RE: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-05 Thread BARNARD

I agree entirely, Matt.  I mean, those girls need to do the makeover show
on E! network.  We must not be their target audience  Their music can
be (or was, at one point, as people here have been pointing out) quite
respectable, but the look sure isn't hitting home with me...

--junior

PS.  I expect to see the denizens of the goddess abode in Nashville
dressing that way any day now g



RE: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-05 Thread BARNARD

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't really care for the "look" of
many contemporary country artists.  My head's always full of old-time
stuff and the way the performers dress now in general just doesn't get it
for me.  Men *and* women, I'm talking about... 

--junior



RE: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-05 Thread Matt Benz



 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 9:34 AM
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 Subject:  RE: What Country is Really All About
 
 I could care less how the Dixie Chicks dress, so no witness here,
 Matt.  I
 do think it's interesting, though, that the writer of that piece
 seemed to
 think that Tammy Wynette and Loretta Lynn wore gingham frocks
 throughout
 their careers, which is way, way off-base.
 
[Matt Benz]  Yeh, I suppose maybe I shouldn't notice such
things. H. Now you have me questioning my whole.oh never mind.
G Anyway, I agree with ya, and it probably goes without saying that
yeh, maybe Lynn and Wynette didn't have any "empowerment" songs since
that word "empowerment" wasn't in use-but songs like "The Pill" "Don't
COme Home A Drinkin" etc came close. Sure, maybe it wasn't about
deflowering a boy, or throwing your man to the floor for a quickie, but
then, it was a different era. Those tunes were pretty damn bold.

  



RE: What Country is Really All About

1999-02-05 Thread Matt Benz

Agreed, Jr, and I'm no fashion plate myself. For instance, I think the
Mavricks look pretty silly with their faux hipster mafia look, and well,
any of those other bands like Diamond Rio need to realize that Chess
King closed down back in the 80's. Hell, they make BG bands look like
the whip. 

M



 -Original Message-
 From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 9:46 AM
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  RE: What Country is Really All About
 
 Actually, now that I think about it, I don't really care for the
 "look" of
 many contemporary country artists.  My head's always full of old-time
 stuff and the way the performers dress now in general just doesn't get
 it
 for me.  Men *and* women, I'm talking about... 
 
 --junior