[postgis-users] Using asKML() with google maps

2011-01-19 Thread R H

I'm more of a DBA than a GIS developer and I hoping someone can help understand 
a few things?

I'm using asKML() to render some polygons in google maps through a network 
link.  It's in the preliminary phases and works ok.  I have seen several 
examples where geoServer is used with google maps to do basically them same 
thing.  What are the pros and cons of using something like geoServer with 
google maps.  Opposed to only using google maps?  Eventually I would like to 
add some tools to interact with the polygon data, is that where the geoServer 
would help?

Thanks in advance, any advice would be helpful...
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[postgis-users] Help with a multipolygon filtering function

2011-01-19 Thread Ross Lawley
I want to clean up some multipolygons and remove any polygons over a certain
distance by using a postgis function.

This is the closest I've come:

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION filter_polygons_within(geometry, double
precision)
  RETURNS geometry AS
$BODY$
SELECT ST_Multi(ST_Collect(final_geom.poly)) AS filtered_geom
FROM (
SELECT DISTINCT a.poly
FROM (
SELECT ST_GeometryN(ST_Multi($1), generate_series(1,
ST_NumGeometries(ST_Multi($1 AS poly,
(SELECT ST_GeometryN(ST_Multi($1), generate_series(1,
ST_NumGeometries(ST_Multi($1) as poly_b
) AS a
WHERE a.poly != a.poly_b
AND ST_DWithin(a.poly, a.poly_b, $1)
) as final_geom
$BODY$
LANGUAGE 'sql' IMMUTABLE;

However, the where clause isn't working for me - any ideas on how to achieve
this?  I'm not sure on how to compare all polygons with each other, I know
how to get a list of polygons;

ST_GeometryN(ST_Multi($1), generate_series(1,
ST_NumGeometries(ST_Multi($1

I'm just not sure how to compare each one with another and return the
distinct polygon results.

Thanks in advance,

Ross
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Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis

2011-01-19 Thread MarkW
Views are fine in Qgis for me, but in my experience you'll need to manually
add a record to the GeometryColumns table, and include a suitable unique ID
field into the view or Qgis will complain.

I think views are what you want based on your description. I think the table
structure qualifier was because you said "etc" without giving all fields
from each table, and a one-to-many relationship (or other) wasn't all that
clear in your first message. My guess. But yeah, it's easier if you give the
relationship between tables and a few rows of sample data (in, out) can't
hurt in communicating.

Finally, Etienne's suggestion was better - my impression (from the PostGIS
in Action book which I recommend by the way!) gives the example of ST_point
for your purpose and I've had an easier time using it with column names than
ST_GeomFromText.

Mark

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Callahan wrote:

> Thanks for your response Rob. Looks good.  I'll give this a try.
>
> I cannot merge everything into one table.  Our station inventory table
> contains only the basics/metadata about each station.  As other projects
> arise, they each have their own tables containing data observations for that
> project only.  There are many project tables with all types of data.
>
> As an aside, for future questions, what kind of table information would you
> (the list) need in order to provide support?  Would you need column types
> (string, numeric), or some sample data?   Thanks.
>
>
> - John
>
> **
> John Callahan, Research Scientist
> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
> URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
> **
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM,  wrote:
>
>>  Hi John:
>>
>> Given your stated table structure**, a query like the following should
>> give you the records you want.
>>
>> SELECT t2.*, t1.geometry_column  --substitute your newly created geometry
>> column for "geometry_column"
>> FROM table2 t2 LEFT JOIN table1 t1 ON(t2.stationid = t1.stationid);
>>
>> The "LEFT JOIN" specifies that you want all rows from table2 and just the
>> matching rows from table1.
>>
>> **It's difficult to predict success of any proposed solution without more
>> info on the structure and content of your two tables.
>>
>> Have you considered merging the data into one table, allowing null values
>> for the table2 attributes? You would then be able to select specific records
>> without performing a join. If you've already created your table1 geometry
>> column, you can quickly generate a "master" table or view (don't know if
>> QGIS will recognize a view--might have to be a table) by:
>>
>>  CREATE TABLE stations AS  --or CREATE VIEW stations AS
>> SELECT t2.*, t1.*
>> FROM table2 t2 JOIN table1 t1 ON(t2.stationid = t1.stationid);
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rob
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net [mailto:
>> postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net] *On Behalf Of *John
>> Callahan
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:30 AM
>> *To:* PostGIS Users Discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis
>>
>> Thanks Mark.  This gives me a direction to go.  I have the correct SRS,
>> and your other points are valuable.  ST_GeomFromText is really what I was
>> missing.  Thanks.
>>
>> The fact that I have two data tables to combine, would a View help here?
>> Or somehow modify the SELECT statements that would go into the
>> ST_GeomFromText function?  (the examples only show hard-coded coordinates
>> but I'm hoping a SELECT statement can provide input.)
>>
>> - John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, MarkW  wrote:
>>
>>> Now that you have data in columns in Postgresql, you can use SQL
>>> statements to create your spatial data. Here are the steps:
>>> 1) identify your SRID/ spatial reference system
>>> 2) create geometries by passing your x and y with a spatial ref to the
>>> right function, and
>>> 3) add a row to the geometry_columns table so that other applications can
>>> more easily see the spatial data.
>>>
>>> 1) It's much easier if you can match your coordinate system to the right
>>> UTM srids in the spatial_ref_sys table; see spatialreference.org for
>>> help.
>>> 2) See this function:
>>> http://www.postgis.org/docs/ST_GeomFromText.html
>>> (and to prove it works, the reverse is ST_X or ST_Y) to get X,Y back out
>>> )
>>> 3)
>>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#Manual_Register_Spatial_Column
>>> (but also see the help under 'AddGeometryColumn (
>>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/AddGeometryColumn.html)
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Callahan >> > wrote:
>>>
  I apologize for asking what seems like an easy question.   I'm really
 just getting started with PostGIS and not sure which way to go here.   I
 have a two tables in MS Access format.  The

Re: [postgis-users] thiessen polygons

2011-01-19 Thread Etienne Bellemare
I guess tessellation would be more generic, but it doesn't seem to yield
more relevant results.

Etienne

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:32 AM, lplateandy  wrote:

>
> Thanks Etienne - that was the one i came across. I was surprised bostongis
> didn't come up when i looked initially but i guess Thiessen isn't the term
> to use.
>
> Andy
>
>
> Etienne B. Racine wrote:
> >
> > Maybe that could help:
> >
> http://www.bostongis.com/PrinterFriendly.aspx?content_name=postgresql_plr_tut02
> >
> > Etienne
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, lplateandy 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> For anyone else searching for Thiessen, i've found that there is quite a
> >> bit
> >> of info out there but under "dierichlet" and some under voroni.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >> lplateandy wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I can't seem to find a specifically named Thiessen polygon function -
> >> is
> >> > there one under a less specific name?
> >> >
> >> > I'm also wondering whether there is an option to include polygons. My
> >> > thinking is to actually just treat each polygon as a set of points
> >> itself.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance, hoping i haven't missed anthing too obvious...
> >> >
> >> > Andy
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
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Re: [postgis-users] thiessen polygons

2011-01-19 Thread lplateandy

Thanks Etienne - that was the one i came across. I was surprised bostongis
didn't come up when i looked initially but i guess Thiessen isn't the term
to use.

Andy


Etienne B. Racine wrote:
> 
> Maybe that could help:
> http://www.bostongis.com/PrinterFriendly.aspx?content_name=postgresql_plr_tut02
> 
> Etienne
> 
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, lplateandy 
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For anyone else searching for Thiessen, i've found that there is quite a
>> bit
>> of info out there but under "dierichlet" and some under voroni.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> lplateandy wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I can't seem to find a specifically named Thiessen polygon function -
>> is
>> > there one under a less specific name?
>> >
>> > I'm also wondering whether there is an option to include polygons. My
>> > thinking is to actually just treat each polygon as a set of points
>> itself.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance, hoping i haven't missed anthing too obvious...
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://old.nabble.com/thiessen-polygons-tp30676214p30710939.html
>> Sent from the PostGIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: [postgis-users] Documentation on Applying Patches

2011-01-19 Thread strk
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 06:40:10AM -0800, Ian R Tangert wrote:
> 
> Greetings.  Can anyone tell me where I can find documentation on how to apply
> patches?  Environment specific would be a great help (osx 10.6, postgis 1.5,
> postgres 8.4) but anything more generic would help as well.

$ cd 
$ patch < postgis-offsetCurve-RafalMagda.patch
$ man patch

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Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis

2011-01-19 Thread Etienne Bellemare
OpenJump has no problem with Views, I don't know for the others.
http://www.postgresonline.com/journal/archives/72-OpenJump-for-PostGIS-Spatial-Ad-Hoc-Queries.html

Etienne

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Callahan wrote:

> Thanks for your response Rob. Looks good.  I'll give this a try.
>
> I cannot merge everything into one table.  Our station inventory table
> contains only the basics/metadata about each station.  As other projects
> arise, they each have their own tables containing data observations for that
> project only.  There are many project tables with all types of data.
>
> As an aside, for future questions, what kind of table information would you
> (the list) need in order to provide support?  Would you need column types
> (string, numeric), or some sample data?   Thanks.
>
>
> - John
>
> **
> John Callahan, Research Scientist
> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
> URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
> **
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM,  wrote:
>
>>  Hi John:
>>
>> Given your stated table structure**, a query like the following should
>> give you the records you want.
>>
>> SELECT t2.*, t1.geometry_column  --substitute your newly created geometry
>> column for "geometry_column"
>> FROM table2 t2 LEFT JOIN table1 t1 ON(t2.stationid = t1.stationid);
>>
>> The "LEFT JOIN" specifies that you want all rows from table2 and just the
>> matching rows from table1.
>>
>> **It's difficult to predict success of any proposed solution without more
>> info on the structure and content of your two tables.
>>
>> Have you considered merging the data into one table, allowing null values
>> for the table2 attributes? You would then be able to select specific records
>> without performing a join. If you've already created your table1 geometry
>> column, you can quickly generate a "master" table or view (don't know if
>> QGIS will recognize a view--might have to be a table) by:
>>
>>  CREATE TABLE stations AS  --or CREATE VIEW stations AS
>> SELECT t2.*, t1.*
>> FROM table2 t2 JOIN table1 t1 ON(t2.stationid = t1.stationid);
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rob
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net [mailto:
>> postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net] *On Behalf Of *John
>> Callahan
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:30 AM
>> *To:* PostGIS Users Discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis
>>
>> Thanks Mark.  This gives me a direction to go.  I have the correct SRS,
>> and your other points are valuable.  ST_GeomFromText is really what I was
>> missing.  Thanks.
>>
>> The fact that I have two data tables to combine, would a View help here?
>> Or somehow modify the SELECT statements that would go into the
>> ST_GeomFromText function?  (the examples only show hard-coded coordinates
>> but I'm hoping a SELECT statement can provide input.)
>>
>> - John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, MarkW  wrote:
>>
>>> Now that you have data in columns in Postgresql, you can use SQL
>>> statements to create your spatial data. Here are the steps:
>>> 1) identify your SRID/ spatial reference system
>>> 2) create geometries by passing your x and y with a spatial ref to the
>>> right function, and
>>> 3) add a row to the geometry_columns table so that other applications can
>>> more easily see the spatial data.
>>>
>>> 1) It's much easier if you can match your coordinate system to the right
>>> UTM srids in the spatial_ref_sys table; see spatialreference.org for
>>> help.
>>> 2) See this function:
>>> http://www.postgis.org/docs/ST_GeomFromText.html
>>> (and to prove it works, the reverse is ST_X or ST_Y) to get X,Y back out
>>> )
>>> 3)
>>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#Manual_Register_Spatial_Column
>>> (but also see the help under 'AddGeometryColumn (
>>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/AddGeometryColumn.html)
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Callahan >> > wrote:
>>>
  I apologize for asking what seems like an easy question.   I'm really
 just getting started with PostGIS and not sure which way to go here.   I
 have a two tables in MS Access format.  They are:

 Table1: StationID, easting, northing, elevation, etc...
 Table2: StationID, data values...

 Table1 is basically an inventory of all our stations.  Table2 is a
 subset that includes only stations we have certain data for.   How would I
 convert these into a point data set (of Table2 stations) in PostGIS?   I 
 was
 able to copy the tables from Access into Postgres. Where would I go from
 here?Maybe OGR would help going directly from Access (or text exports 
 of
 Access) into PostGIS?

 I am using Postgres 9.0.2/PostGIS 2.0.0 on Windows, and using Quantum
 GIS for viewing.  Thanks for any guidan

Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis

2011-01-19 Thread John Callahan
Thanks for your response Rob. Looks good.  I'll give this a try.

I cannot merge everything into one table.  Our station inventory table
contains only the basics/metadata about each station.  As other projects
arise, they each have their own tables containing data observations for that
project only.  There are many project tables with all types of data.

As an aside, for future questions, what kind of table information would you
(the list) need in order to provide support?  Would you need column types
(string, numeric), or some sample data?   Thanks.

- John

**
John Callahan, Research Scientist
Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
**


On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM,  wrote:

>  Hi John:
>
> Given your stated table structure**, a query like the following should give
> you the records you want.
>
> SELECT t2.*, t1.geometry_column  --substitute your newly created geometry
> column for "geometry_column"
> FROM table2 t2 LEFT JOIN table1 t1 ON(t2.stationid = t1.stationid);
>
> The "LEFT JOIN" specifies that you want all rows from table2 and just the
> matching rows from table1.
>
> **It's difficult to predict success of any proposed solution without more
> info on the structure and content of your two tables.
>
> Have you considered merging the data into one table, allowing null values
> for the table2 attributes? You would then be able to select specific records
> without performing a join. If you've already created your table1 geometry
> column, you can quickly generate a "master" table or view (don't know if
> QGIS will recognize a view--might have to be a table) by:
>
>  CREATE TABLE stations AS  --or CREATE VIEW stations AS
> SELECT t2.*, t1.*
> FROM table2 t2 JOIN table1 t1 ON(t2.stationid = t1.stationid);
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
>  --
> *From:* postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net [mailto:
> postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net] *On Behalf Of *John
> Callahan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:30 AM
> *To:* PostGIS Users Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis
>
> Thanks Mark.  This gives me a direction to go.  I have the correct SRS, and
> your other points are valuable.  ST_GeomFromText is really what I was
> missing.  Thanks.
>
> The fact that I have two data tables to combine, would a View help here?
> Or somehow modify the SELECT statements that would go into the
> ST_GeomFromText function?  (the examples only show hard-coded coordinates
> but I'm hoping a SELECT statement can provide input.)
>
> - John
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, MarkW  wrote:
>
>> Now that you have data in columns in Postgresql, you can use SQL
>> statements to create your spatial data. Here are the steps:
>> 1) identify your SRID/ spatial reference system
>> 2) create geometries by passing your x and y with a spatial ref to the
>> right function, and
>> 3) add a row to the geometry_columns table so that other applications can
>> more easily see the spatial data.
>>
>> 1) It's much easier if you can match your coordinate system to the right
>> UTM srids in the spatial_ref_sys table; see spatialreference.org for
>> help.
>> 2) See this function:
>> http://www.postgis.org/docs/ST_GeomFromText.html
>> (and to prove it works, the reverse is ST_X or ST_Y) to get X,Y back out )
>> 3)
>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#Manual_Register_Spatial_Column
>> (but also see the help under 'AddGeometryColumn (
>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/AddGeometryColumn.html)
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>   On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Callahan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  I apologize for asking what seems like an easy question.   I'm really
>>> just getting started with PostGIS and not sure which way to go here.   I
>>> have a two tables in MS Access format.  They are:
>>>
>>> Table1: StationID, easting, northing, elevation, etc...
>>> Table2: StationID, data values...
>>>
>>> Table1 is basically an inventory of all our stations.  Table2 is a subset
>>> that includes only stations we have certain data for.   How would I convert
>>> these into a point data set (of Table2 stations) in PostGIS?   I was able to
>>> copy the tables from Access into Postgres. Where would I go from here?
>>> Maybe OGR would help going directly from Access (or text exports of Access)
>>> into PostGIS?
>>>
>>> I am using Postgres 9.0.2/PostGIS 2.0.0 on Windows, and using Quantum GIS
>>> for viewing.  Thanks for any guidance.
>>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>> **
>>> John Callahan, Research Scientist
>>> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
>>> URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
>>> **
>>>
>>>
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Re: [postgis-users] thiessen polygons

2011-01-19 Thread Etienne Bellemare
Maybe that could help:
http://www.bostongis.com/PrinterFriendly.aspx?content_name=postgresql_plr_tut02

Etienne

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, lplateandy  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> For anyone else searching for Thiessen, i've found that there is quite a
> bit
> of info out there but under "dierichlet" and some under voroni.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> lplateandy wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I can't seem to find a specifically named Thiessen polygon function - is
> > there one under a less specific name?
> >
> > I'm also wondering whether there is an option to include polygons. My
> > thinking is to actually just treat each polygon as a set of points
> itself.
> >
> > Thanks in advance, hoping i haven't missed anthing too obvious...
> >
> > Andy
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/thiessen-polygons-tp30676214p30710939.html
> Sent from the PostGIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis

2011-01-19 Thread Robert_Clift
Hi John:
 
Given your stated table structure**, a query like the following should
give you the records you want.
 
SELECT t2.*, t1.geometry_column  --substitute your newly created
geometry column for "geometry_column"
FROM table2 t2 LEFT JOIN table1 t1 ON(t2.stationid = t1.stationid);
 
The "LEFT JOIN" specifies that you want all rows from table2 and just
the matching rows from table1.
 
**It's difficult to predict success of any proposed solution without
more info on the structure and content of your two tables. 
 
Have you considered merging the data into one table, allowing null
values for the table2 attributes? You would then be able to select
specific records without performing a join. If you've already created
your table1 geometry column, you can quickly generate a "master" table
or view (don't know if QGIS will recognize a view--might have to be a
table) by:
 
CREATE TABLE stations AS  --or CREATE VIEW stations AS
SELECT t2.*, t1.*
FROM table2 t2 JOIN table1 t1 ON(t2.stationid = t1.stationid);
 
Hope that helps.
 
Cheers,
Rob



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Callahan
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:30 AM
To: PostGIS Users Discussion
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis


Thanks Mark.  This gives me a direction to go.  I have the correct SRS,
and your other points are valuable.  ST_GeomFromText is really what I
was missing.  Thanks.

The fact that I have two data tables to combine, would a View help here?
Or somehow modify the SELECT statements that would go into the
ST_GeomFromText function?  (the examples only show hard-coded
coordinates but I'm hoping a SELECT statement can provide input.)

- John
 



On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, MarkW  wrote:


Now that you have data in columns in Postgresql, you can use SQL
statements to create your spatial data. Here are the steps:
1) identify your SRID/ spatial reference system
2) create geometries by passing your x and y with a spatial ref
to the right function, and 
3) add a row to the geometry_columns table so that other
applications can more easily see the spatial data. 

1) It's much easier if you can match your coordinate system to
the right UTM srids in the spatial_ref_sys table; see
spatialreference.org for help.
2) See this function:
http://www.postgis.org/docs/ST_GeomFromText.html
(and to prove it works, the reverse is ST_X or ST_Y) to get X,Y
back out )
3)
http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#Manual_Register_Spatial_Co
lumn
(but also see the help under 'AddGeometryColumn
(http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/AddGeometryColumn.html)

Hope this helps. 

Mark



On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Callahan
 wrote:


I apologize for asking what seems like an easy question.
I'm really just getting started with PostGIS and not sure which way to
go here.   I have a two tables in MS Access format.  They are:

Table1: StationID, easting, northing, elevation, etc...
Table2: StationID, data values...

Table1 is basically an inventory of all our stations.
Table2 is a subset that includes only stations we have certain data for.
How would I convert these into a point data set (of Table2 stations) in
PostGIS?   I was able to copy the tables from Access into Postgres.
Where would I go from here?Maybe OGR would help going directly from
Access (or text exports of Access) into PostGIS?  

I am using Postgres 9.0.2/PostGIS 2.0.0 on Windows, and
using Quantum GIS for viewing.  Thanks for any guidance.

- John

**
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Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis

2011-01-19 Thread John Callahan
Thank you Etienne.  That may be the way to go.

The problem is that one table has the necessary attributes and another table
has the x,y coordinates.  They need to be separate tables.  Also, I'm using
EPSG:26918 (UTM Z18 meters).  Basic structures of both tables are:

Table1: StationID, easting, northing, elevation, owner, date (our complete
inventory table)
Table2: StationID, value1, value2, value3, etc...  (a data table with
observations)


Table2 gets updated on a more frequent basis, daily to weekly.  Table1 only
a few times per year.

Could I add a geom column to Table1 and then create a view that brings in
the data values I want to map?  I am not sure if packages such as QGIS,
MapServer, etc.., can read the view as a spatial class.  Or maybe create a
third table that brings in fields from Table1 and Table2, and then adds a
geom column?

- John

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URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
**


On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Etienne Bellemare wrote:

> You should probably use something like this (let's say your coordinates are
> in the x and y columns [also replace  and ]):
>
> SELECT AddGeometryColumn(' ','the_geom', ,'POINT', 2);
> UPDATE   SET the_geom = ST_SetSRID(ST_MakePoint(x,y), );
> --replace x and y if it's not the good columns
>
> For the view (you haven't provided much information), it depends of your
> table structure, if they are the same, if when you update one you're likely
> to update the other and if they aren't too big, then maybe it should be
> merged in a single table. Otherwise, a view could be usefull if you need to
> view these simultaneously.
>
> Etienne
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:30 AM, John Callahan wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark.  This gives me a direction to go.  I have the correct SRS,
>> and your other points are valuable.  ST_GeomFromText is really what I was
>> missing.  Thanks.
>>
>> The fact that I have two data tables to combine, would a View help here?
>> Or somehow modify the SELECT statements that would go into the
>> ST_GeomFromText function?  (the examples only show hard-coded coordinates
>> but I'm hoping a SELECT statement can provide input.)
>>
>> - John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, MarkW  wrote:
>>
>>> Now that you have data in columns in Postgresql, you can use SQL
>>> statements to create your spatial data. Here are the steps:
>>> 1) identify your SRID/ spatial reference system
>>> 2) create geometries by passing your x and y with a spatial ref to the
>>> right function, and
>>> 3) add a row to the geometry_columns table so that other applications can
>>> more easily see the spatial data.
>>>
>>> 1) It's much easier if you can match your coordinate system to the right
>>> UTM srids in the spatial_ref_sys table; see spatialreference.org for
>>> help.
>>> 2) See this function:
>>> http://www.postgis.org/docs/ST_GeomFromText.html
>>> (and to prove it works, the reverse is ST_X or ST_Y) to get X,Y back out
>>> )
>>> 3)
>>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#Manual_Register_Spatial_Column
>>> (but also see the help under 'AddGeometryColumn (
>>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/AddGeometryColumn.html)
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Callahan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I apologize for asking what seems like an easy question.   I'm really
 just getting started with PostGIS and not sure which way to go here.   I
 have a two tables in MS Access format.  They are:

 Table1: StationID, easting, northing, elevation, etc...
 Table2: StationID, data values...

 Table1 is basically an inventory of all our stations.  Table2 is a
 subset that includes only stations we have certain data for.   How would I
 convert these into a point data set (of Table2 stations) in PostGIS?   I 
 was
 able to copy the tables from Access into Postgres. Where would I go from
 here?Maybe OGR would help going directly from Access (or text exports 
 of
 Access) into PostGIS?

 I am using Postgres 9.0.2/PostGIS 2.0.0 on Windows, and using Quantum
 GIS for viewing.  Thanks for any guidance.

 - John

 **
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 Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
 URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
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Re: [postgis-users] thiessen polygons

2011-01-19 Thread lplateandy

Hi,

For anyone else searching for Thiessen, i've found that there is quite a bit
of info out there but under "dierichlet" and some under voroni.

Thanks

Andy


lplateandy wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I can't seem to find a specifically named Thiessen polygon function - is
> there one under a less specific name?
> 
> I'm also wondering whether there is an option to include polygons. My
> thinking is to actually just treat each polygon as a set of points itself.
> 
> Thanks in advance, hoping i haven't missed anthing too obvious...
> 
> Andy
> 

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Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis

2011-01-19 Thread Etienne Bellemare
You should probably use something like this (let's say your coordinates are
in the x and y columns [also replace  and ]):

SELECT AddGeometryColumn(' ','the_geom', ,'POINT', 2);
UPDATE   SET the_geom = ST_SetSRID(ST_MakePoint(x,y), );
--replace x and y if it's not the good columns

For the view (you haven't provided much information), it depends of your
table structure, if they are the same, if when you update one you're likely
to update the other and if they aren't too big, then maybe it should be
merged in a single table. Otherwise, a view could be usefull if you need to
view these simultaneously.

Etienne

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:30 AM, John Callahan wrote:

> Thanks Mark.  This gives me a direction to go.  I have the correct SRS, and
> your other points are valuable.  ST_GeomFromText is really what I was
> missing.  Thanks.
>
> The fact that I have two data tables to combine, would a View help here?
> Or somehow modify the SELECT statements that would go into the
> ST_GeomFromText function?  (the examples only show hard-coded coordinates
> but I'm hoping a SELECT statement can provide input.)
>
> - John
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, MarkW  wrote:
>
>> Now that you have data in columns in Postgresql, you can use SQL
>> statements to create your spatial data. Here are the steps:
>> 1) identify your SRID/ spatial reference system
>> 2) create geometries by passing your x and y with a spatial ref to the
>> right function, and
>> 3) add a row to the geometry_columns table so that other applications can
>> more easily see the spatial data.
>>
>> 1) It's much easier if you can match your coordinate system to the right
>> UTM srids in the spatial_ref_sys table; see spatialreference.org for
>> help.
>> 2) See this function:
>> http://www.postgis.org/docs/ST_GeomFromText.html
>> (and to prove it works, the reverse is ST_X or ST_Y) to get X,Y back out )
>> 3)
>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#Manual_Register_Spatial_Column
>> (but also see the help under 'AddGeometryColumn (
>> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/AddGeometryColumn.html)
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Callahan wrote:
>>
>>> I apologize for asking what seems like an easy question.   I'm really
>>> just getting started with PostGIS and not sure which way to go here.   I
>>> have a two tables in MS Access format.  They are:
>>>
>>> Table1: StationID, easting, northing, elevation, etc...
>>> Table2: StationID, data values...
>>>
>>> Table1 is basically an inventory of all our stations.  Table2 is a subset
>>> that includes only stations we have certain data for.   How would I convert
>>> these into a point data set (of Table2 stations) in PostGIS?   I was able to
>>> copy the tables from Access into Postgres. Where would I go from here?
>>> Maybe OGR would help going directly from Access (or text exports of Access)
>>> into PostGIS?
>>>
>>> I am using Postgres 9.0.2/PostGIS 2.0.0 on Windows, and using Quantum GIS
>>> for viewing.  Thanks for any guidance.
>>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>> **
>>> John Callahan, Research Scientist
>>> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
>>> URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
>>> **
>>>
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Re: [postgis-users] Calculation distance between two points

2011-01-19 Thread iKey

Hi Nicklas,

thanks for your reply.

Your second version with casting to geographic coordinates works fine for
me. :)
I think on my own I'd never found this solution. ;)

Many thanks again!!

Best regards
Eike



Nicklas Avén wrote:
> 
> Hallo Eike
> 
> The issue here is, latitude-longitude vs longitude-latitude.
> 
> In PostGIS the order is longitude latitude
> 
> 
> So if you reverse the order of the coordinates you will get about 539
> meters.
> 
> What is right or wrong depends on which one is longitude and which one
> is latitude.
> 
> Another way to write your query in 1.5 is casting to geography
> 
> So, to compare the two orderings:
> 
> SELECT
>  ST_Distance('POINT(52.2789
> 8.04306)'::geography,'POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)'::geography),
>  ST_Distance('POINT(8.04306
> 52.2789)'::geography,'POINT(8.036165 52.2812598)'::geography)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> HTH
> Nicklas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 06:40 -0800, iKey wrote:
>> Dear Community,
>> 
>> I want to calculate the distance between two points with a postgres
>> query.
>> The point reference system of my DB is epsg 4326. As far as I know I have
>> to
>> transform them, because with
>> WGS84 4326 I can calculate the distance in radian only.
>> 
>> This is an example query in that I try to calculate the distance in
>> different ways, but with no luck so far :(
>> SELECT   ST_Distance(ST_Transform(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
>> 8.04306)',4326),
>> 900913),ST_Transform(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)', 4326),
>> 900913))
>>  ,ST_Distance_Sphere(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
>> 8.04306)',4326), ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)',
>> 4326))
>>  ,ST_Distance_Spheroid(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
>> 8.04306)',4326), ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)',
>> 4326), 'SPHEROID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563]')
>> FROM pois 
>> LIMIT 1;
>> 
>> The results look like this
>> 818.392971975843;
>> 809.44384291019;
>> 805.637737963218
>> 
>> When i calculate the distance in GoogleEarth or GoogleMaps I get a result
>> about 538,06m, so I think there is going something wrong in my
>> calculation with postgres.
>> 
>> Does anyone has any ideas whats going wrong or what else I can try?
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Eike
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Re: [postgis-users] Calculation distance between two points

2011-01-19 Thread Nicklas Avén
Hallo Eike

The issue here is, latitude-longitude vs longitude-latitude.

In PostGIS the order is longitude latitude


So if you reverse the order of the coordinates you will get about 539
meters.

What is right or wrong depends on which one is longitude and which one
is latitude.

Another way to write your query in 1.5 is casting to geography

So, to compare the two orderings:

SELECT
 ST_Distance('POINT(52.2789
8.04306)'::geography,'POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)'::geography),
 ST_Distance('POINT(8.04306
52.2789)'::geography,'POINT(8.036165 52.2812598)'::geography)





HTH
Nicklas




On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 06:40 -0800, iKey wrote:
> Dear Community,
> 
> I want to calculate the distance between two points with a postgres query.
> The point reference system of my DB is epsg 4326. As far as I know I have to
> transform them, because with
> WGS84 4326 I can calculate the distance in radian only.
> 
> This is an example query in that I try to calculate the distance in
> different ways, but with no luck so far :(
> SELECTST_Distance(ST_Transform(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
> 8.04306)',4326),
> 900913),ST_Transform(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)', 4326),
> 900913))
>   ,ST_Distance_Sphere(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
> 8.04306)',4326), ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)',
> 4326))
>   ,ST_Distance_Spheroid(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
> 8.04306)',4326), ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)',
> 4326), 'SPHEROID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563]')
> FROM pois 
> LIMIT 1;
> 
> The results look like this
> 818.392971975843;
> 809.44384291019;
> 805.637737963218
> 
> When i calculate the distance in GoogleEarth or GoogleMaps I get a result
> about 538,06m, so I think there is going something wrong in my
> calculation with postgres.
> 
> Does anyone has any ideas whats going wrong or what else I can try?
> 
> Best regards
> Eike


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[postgis-users] Calculation distance between two points

2011-01-19 Thread iKey

Dear Community,

I want to calculate the distance between two points with a postgres query.
The point reference system of my DB is epsg 4326. As far as I know I have to
transform them, because with
WGS84 4326 I can calculate the distance in radian only.

This is an example query in that I try to calculate the distance in
different ways, but with no luck so far :(
SELECT  ST_Distance(ST_Transform(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
8.04306)',4326),
900913),ST_Transform(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)', 4326),
900913))
,ST_Distance_Sphere(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
8.04306)',4326), ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)',
4326))
,ST_Distance_Spheroid(ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2789
8.04306)',4326), ST_GeomFromText('POINT(52.2812598 8.036165)',
4326), 'SPHEROID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563]')
FROM pois 
LIMIT 1;

The results look like this
818.392971975843;
809.44384291019;
805.637737963218

When i calculate the distance in GoogleEarth or GoogleMaps I get a result
about 538,06m, so I think there is going something wrong in my
calculation with postgres.

Does anyone has any ideas whats going wrong or what else I can try?

Best regards
Eike
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[postgis-users] Documentation on Applying Patches

2011-01-19 Thread Ian R Tangert

Greetings.  Can anyone tell me where I can find documentation on how to apply
patches?  Environment specific would be a great help (osx 10.6, postgis 1.5,
postgres 8.4) but anything more generic would help as well.

More specifically, I am interested in trying out the patch here: 
http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/attachment/ticket/413/postgis-offsetCurve-RafalMagda.patch
http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/attachment/ticket/413/postgis-offsetCurve-RafalMagda.patch
 
but I can't find anything Googling or otherwise on how to implement.  Thank
you

peace
ian
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Re: [postgis-users] migrating tables to postgis

2011-01-19 Thread John Callahan
Thanks Mark.  This gives me a direction to go.  I have the correct SRS, and
your other points are valuable.  ST_GeomFromText is really what I was
missing.  Thanks.

The fact that I have two data tables to combine, would a View help here?  Or
somehow modify the SELECT statements that would go into the ST_GeomFromText
function?  (the examples only show hard-coded coordinates but I'm hoping a
SELECT statement can provide input.)

- John



On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, MarkW  wrote:

> Now that you have data in columns in Postgresql, you can use SQL statements
> to create your spatial data. Here are the steps:
> 1) identify your SRID/ spatial reference system
> 2) create geometries by passing your x and y with a spatial ref to the
> right function, and
> 3) add a row to the geometry_columns table so that other applications can
> more easily see the spatial data.
>
> 1) It's much easier if you can match your coordinate system to the right
> UTM srids in the spatial_ref_sys table; see spatialreference.org for help.
> 2) See this function:
> http://www.postgis.org/docs/ST_GeomFromText.html
> (and to prove it works, the reverse is ST_X or ST_Y) to get X,Y back out )
> 3)
> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#Manual_Register_Spatial_Column
> (but also see the help under 'AddGeometryColumn (
> http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/AddGeometryColumn.html)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Callahan wrote:
>
>> I apologize for asking what seems like an easy question.   I'm really just
>> getting started with PostGIS and not sure which way to go here.   I have a
>> two tables in MS Access format.  They are:
>>
>> Table1: StationID, easting, northing, elevation, etc...
>> Table2: StationID, data values...
>>
>> Table1 is basically an inventory of all our stations.  Table2 is a subset
>> that includes only stations we have certain data for.   How would I convert
>> these into a point data set (of Table2 stations) in PostGIS?   I was able to
>> copy the tables from Access into Postgres. Where would I go from here?
>> Maybe OGR would help going directly from Access (or text exports of Access)
>> into PostGIS?
>>
>> I am using Postgres 9.0.2/PostGIS 2.0.0 on Windows, and using Quantum GIS
>> for viewing.  Thanks for any guidance.
>>
>> - John
>>
>> **
>> John Callahan, Research Scientist
>> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
>> URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
>> **
>>
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Re: [postgis-users] Build PostGIS 1.5.2 under Windows

2011-01-19 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland

On 19/01/11 13:27, Ilie, Radu wrote:


I am not familiar with the MingW builds. If we do use them, will the
resulting dll's have any dependencies on any runtime component of MingW?
Or can we simply take the resulting dll's (for postgis, geos, proj etc)
and copy them to another Windows system that doesn't have any part of
MingW installed?

Radu


You can check yourself with DEPENDS.EXE, but normally the only 
dependency is the standard MSVCRT.DLL runtime supplied with Windows. 
Possibly newer versions may have one additional DLL dependency for debug 
stack handling.



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Re: [postgis-users] Build PostGIS 1.5.2 under Windows

2011-01-19 Thread Ilie, Radu
I am not familiar with the MingW builds. If we do use them, will the
resulting dll's have any dependencies on any runtime component of MingW?
Or can we simply take the resulting dll's (for postgis, geos, proj etc)
and copy them to another Windows system that doesn't have any part of
MingW installed?

Radu

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To: postgis-users@postgis.refractions.net
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Build PostGIS 1.5.2 under Windows

On 18/01/11 19:39, Ilie, Radu wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We need to build PostGIS 1.5.2 as 32 bit under Windows, using Visual
C++.
>
> We tried to follow the instructions from
> http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/DevWikiWinVC_15, but the
instructions
> from there are not complete. We tried to follow the logical path from
> the end of the instructions, but we get thousands of compilation
errors.
> I noticed at http://www.postgis.org/download/windows/experimental.php
> that there are binaries available for distribution under Windows. I
> imagine the people building them have a build environment for Windows
> already set up. Does anybody know the steps followed by the people
that
> build the Windows binaries?
>
> Are there any updated instructions available for building PostGIS
under
> Windows? Even if they are cumbersome, we can follow them.
>
> Thank you,

Sadly MSVC builds under Windows are currently unsupported, however if 
you do manage to get any further please do update the wiki with your 
progress. Is there any particular reason that you can't use the MingW 
builds?


ATB,

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[postgis-users] Problems using ST_Contains to check if a linestring is included in a multilinestring

2011-01-19 Thread Jochen Woidich
Hello,

I'm pretty new to postgis and mailing lists, so please excuse if I'm
breaking any conventions. :)

I'm trying to use ST_Contains to check if a certain linestring is
included in a multilinestring. This seems to work fine until the
linestring grows.

This query (http://paste.frubar.net/13291) should imho return true for
both calls, but only the first one equals to true.

Any hint on what i'm doing wrong?

PostgreSQL 9.0, PostGIS v1.5.2-3, running on Windows.
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Re: [postgis-users] Build PostGIS 1.5.2 under Windows

2011-01-19 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland

On 18/01/11 19:39, Ilie, Radu wrote:


Hi,

We need to build PostGIS 1.5.2 as 32 bit under Windows, using Visual C++.

We tried to follow the instructions from
http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/DevWikiWinVC_15, but the instructions
from there are not complete. We tried to follow the logical path from
the end of the instructions, but we get thousands of compilation errors.
I noticed at http://www.postgis.org/download/windows/experimental.php
that there are binaries available for distribution under Windows. I
imagine the people building them have a build environment for Windows
already set up. Does anybody know the steps followed by the people that
build the Windows binaries?

Are there any updated instructions available for building PostGIS under
Windows? Even if they are cumbersome, we can follow them.

Thank you,


Sadly MSVC builds under Windows are currently unsupported, however if 
you do manage to get any further please do update the wiki with your 
progress. Is there any particular reason that you can't use the MingW 
builds?



ATB,

Mark.

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