Re: [postgis-users] make generates incorrect PERL variable value on v1.5.2

2011-03-09 Thread Bill Teluk

Correction: that was PostgreSQL 9.0.3
Sorry!
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Re: [postgis-users] make install as root on v1.5.2

2011-03-09 Thread Bill Teluk

Correction: that was PostgreSQL 9.0.3
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[postgis-users] make install as root on v1.5.2

2011-03-09 Thread Bill Teluk

Hi,
I have installed PostGIS 1.5.2 on a PostgreSQL 9.0.4 (OpenSCG RPM) on an
RHEL5.5 system - the instructions in the included README.postgis indicate
that I should perform "make install" as "postgres" user.  This didn't work
and generated the error below:

   /bin/mkdir -p '/opt/postgres/9.0/share/postgresql/contrib/postgis-1.5'
   /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory 

   `/opt/postgres/9.0/share/postgresql/contrib/postgis-1.5': Permission
denied
   make[1]: *** [installdirs] Error 1
   make[1]: Leaving directory 

   `/home/maptools/other/pgis_1_5_2/postgis-1.5.2/postgis'
   make: *** [postgis-install] Error 2

I overcame this by performing "make install" as "root" user - I did this
because I noted that the online HTML documentation for v1.5 doesn't indicate
which user to install as - at least as far as I could see (ref 
http://postgis.refractions.net/documentation/manual-1.5/ch02.html#id2630263
)

Is this a documentation error, or should I really be installing as user
"postgres"?

Thanks.

Regards, Bill Teluk.
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[postgis-users] make generates incorrect PERL variable value on v1.5.2

2011-03-09 Thread Bill Teluk

Hi,

I have installed PostGIS 1.5.2 on a PostgreSQL 9.0.4 (OpenSCG RPM) on an
RHEL5.5 system, during the build process, when I ran "make" (after
"./configure") I got the following error.

Error message extract:

   gcc -E -traditional-cpp postgis.sql.in.c | grep -v '^#' > postgis.sql.in
   sed 's,MODULE_PATHNAME,$libdir/postgis-1.5,g' postgis.sql.in >postgis.sql
   gcc -E -traditional-cpp uninstall_postgis.sql.in.c | grep -v '^#' > 

   uninstall_postgis.sql.in
   sed 's,MODULE_PATHNAME,$libdir/postgis-1.5,g' uninstall_postgis.sql.in 

   >uninstall_postgis.sql
   "/opt/ActivePerl-5.10/bin/perl" ../utils/postgis_proc_upgrade.pl
postgis.sql 1.5 

   > postgis_upgrade_15_minor.sql
   /bin/sh: /opt/ActivePerl-5.10/bin/perl: No such file or directory
   make[1]: *** [postgis_upgrade_15_minor.sql] Error 127
   make[1]: *** Deleting file `postgis_upgrade_15_minor.sql'
   make[1]: Leaving directory 

   `/home/maptools/other/pgis_1_5_2/postgis-1.5.2/postgis'
   make: *** [postgis] Error 2

It appears to be a "PERL" variable belonging to the ./postgis/Makefile
script - somehow it's getting set to a value of
"/opt/ActivePerl-5.10/bin/perl" which doesn't appear to relate to my system
(which only has Perl v5.8 installed, and in a different directory.)  I
couldn't work out where "PERL" was being set in the scripts.

I've seen a similar ticket reported for the same problem for V2.0 (the
ticket is currently closed.) Refs are:
   http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/521
and
   http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/DevWikiWinMingWSys_20

That particular fault was reported against a Windows install, but it also
seems to affect the Linux installation.

I used the solution provided in the Wiki page reporting the fault eg. after
running configure

   sed 's,$(PERL),perl,g' postgis/Makefile2
   mv postgis/Makefile2 postgis/Makefile


... and it then worked for me.  I was wondering if this is actually a bug or
is it something about my system that caused this problem?

Thanks, Bill Teluk.
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[postgis-users] datatype question in postgis

2011-03-09 Thread Robert Buckley
Hi,

I have a project on my desktop gis which I would like to transfer to the web 
and 
offer as a map service. Currently the project consists of around 90 layers (all 
shps) -points/lines and polygons.

If I serve them through postgresql into geoserver should I keep the data 
structure as it is, or should I combine all polygons to one shp -all polylines 
into one shp and points to one shp and then import into three different postgis 
tables? what are the implications for serving my data? 


Is it quicker to serve fewer larger tables or many smaller tables? Is there a 
geometry type which takes all geometries(ie points,lines and polygons)? so that 
I could serve all my data from one table?...obviously the symbology of 90 
classes would make the sld file slightly worrying, but would this be better 
that 
having 90 separate sld´s?


thanks for any tips,

Robert

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Re: [postgis-users] Creating a grid purely in SQL

2011-03-09 Thread Pierre Racine
I would use PostGIS raster:

first:

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION ST_PixelAsPolygons(rast raster, band integer)
RETURNS SETOF geomval AS
$$
DECLARE
rast alias for $1;
w integer;
h integer;
x integer;
y integer;
result geomval;
BEGIN
SELECT st_width(rast), st_height(rast)
INTO w, h;
FOR x IN 1..w LOOP
 FOR y IN 1..h LOOP
 SELECT ST_PixelAsPolygon(rast, band, x, y), ST_Value(rast, 
band, x, y) INTO result;
RETURN NEXT result;
 END LOOP;
END LOOP;
RETURN;
END;
$$
LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';

CREATE FUNCTION ST_PixelAsPolygons(raster) RETURNS SETOF geomval AS
$$
SELECT ST_PixelAsPolygons($1, 1);
$$
LANGUAGE SQL;

and then

CREATE TABLE cells AS
SELECT cell_id, ST_Centroid((gv).geom) centroid, (gv).geom the_geom
FROM (SELECT generate_series(1, 100) cell_id, 
ST_PixelAsPolygons(st_makeemptyraster(10, 10, 0, 0, 0.5, 0.5, 0, 0, 4326)) gv) 
foo

10 and 10 are X and Y

0 and 0 are ulx and uly

0.5 and 0.5 are width 'w' and height 'h'

next two 0 are skewx and skewy

4326 is SRID.

This generate two geometry columns. One for the centroid of the cell and one 
for the cell itself.

Pierre

>-Original Message-
>From: postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net [mailto:postgis-users-
>boun...@postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of Mr. Puneet Kishor
>Sent: 7 mars 2011 23:13
>To: PostGIS Users Discussion
>Subject: [postgis-users] Creating a grid purely in SQL
>
>Given a top-left starting point [ulx, uly], and a cell width 'w' and height 
>'h', is it possible to
>create a table entirely in SQL populated with rows increasing from left to 
>right up to X and top to
>bottom up to Y. The table schema would be something like --
>
>CREATE TABLE cells (
>  cell_id INTEGER NOT NULL,
>  xmid DOUBLE PRECISION,
>  ymid DOUBLE PRECISION,
>  the_geom GEOMETRY,
>  CONSTRAINT cells_pkey PRIMARY KEY (cell_id)
>);
>
>where xmid = (xmin + xmax) / 2 and ymid = (ymin + ymax) / 2, [xmin, ymin, 
>xmax, ymax] being the
>corners of each cell.
>
>A bonus question -- is it possible to store two geometry columns in one table? 
>For example, if I
>wanted to store the geometry for both the center points [xmin, ymid] as well 
>as the box [xmin, ymin,
>xmax, ymax], would that be possible? Would that even be recommended (for 
>example, to speed up
>queries/drawing, etc.).
>
>Puneet.
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Re: [postgis-users] Infinite loop in st_intersects - because of incorrect data out of st_transform?

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland

On 08/03/11 09:16, Magnus Hagander wrote:


Since nobody appears to be too interested in producing a quick fix in
geos, attached is a patch that puts in an *ugly* workaround in
PostGIS, that simply rejects the infinite values higher up in the
stack. I don't consider this a long-term fix, but it at least causes
an error instead of getting stuck in an infinite loop that can only be
terminated with kill -9... So pending a solution in geos, I would
suggest this workaround (or something better located written by
someone who actually know the postgis code better than me) be put in.
The way it is now, any application that allows the user to specify
input that could generate such a geometry could trivially
denial-of-service any postgis site...


Hi Magnus,

What was the discussion with the GEOS people like? Did they consider 
this to be a bug in GEOS or a bug in PostGIS?


The basic workaround looks good, but I'd still be interested on Frank's 
thoughts re: whether infinity is a valid projection output point in 
order to determine the best place for the check.



ATB,

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Re: [postgis-users] Increase query performance

2011-03-09 Thread Andreas Forø Tollefsen
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I first thought about doing the simplify, but after some reconsideration I
realized that this would change the geometry of the country borders, and
Area measurements might be wrong.

Then i tried the query without the ST_Intersection and only the conditional
ST_Intersects.
This completed in 87 seconds, so this was very fast compared to 40-50
minutes per year.

I also tried the UNION ALL suggestion by Nicklas which had almost similar
performance as the original query. I will test this some more to see whether
i can save some time.

My guess is that the calculation time required to create the new intersected
geometry is what takes so long, and this is probably something i need to
accept (or get more cpu power :)

Andreas

2011/3/9 Mark Cave-Ayland 

> On 08/03/11 17:01, Andreas Forø Tollefsen wrote:
>
>  After a suggestion from pgsql_performance i tried with ST_Simplify to
>> speed things up.
>> However this gives me a:
>> NOTICE: ptarray_simplify returned a <2 pts array
>>
>> Then server connection terminates.
>>
>> Like this:
>>
>> SELECT ST_Intersection(priogrid_land.cell,
>> ST_Simplify(cshapeswdate.geom,0.1)) AS geom,
>> priogrid_land.gid AS divider, gwcode, gwsyear, gweyear, startdate,
>> enddate, capname, caplong, caplat, col, row, xcoord, ycoord
>> FROM priogrid_land, cshapeswdate WHERE ST_Intersects(priogrid_land.cell,
>> ST_Simplify(cshapeswdate.geom,0.1)) AND cshapeswdate.gwsyear <=1946 AND
>> cshapeswdate.gweyear >=1946 AND cshapeswdate.startdate <= '1946/1/1';
>>
>
> Yup that's a bug related to the new code in trunk - I think we've already
> got something similar filed in the bug tracker. This is probably going to
> require a Paul to take a look at it.
>
>
> ATB,
>
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Re: [postgis-users] bug in st_difference() ?

2011-03-09 Thread Ralf Suhr
Hi Birgit,

this is only a topoligie Problem. Your secound polygon is computed outside 
PostGIS and numeric precision are lost by import. In this case ST_Difference() 
and other PostGIS function can have results with very small errors.

You can clean the second polygon by move all points to the borders from first. 
3597691.18360053 5323329.04452537 becomes 
3597691.183600531425327 5323329.044525371864438 and so on.

Gr
Ralf

Am Mittwoch 09 März 2011, 15:05:43 schrieb Birgit Laggner:
>   Dear list,
> 
> when I am using ST_Difference(), I often have the problem, that the
> resulting geometries contain vertexes lying outside of the supposed
> geometry extent. My impression is that the function tries to preserve
> vertexes of the input geometries and does not check properly, whether
> the point lies inside the extent of the new geometry or not.
> 
> Here an example:
> 
> select st_astext(st_difference(a_geom, b_geom)) from
> st_geomfromtext('POLYGON((3580359 5328360,3588529 5330935,3597943
> 5323120,3606024 5322587,3612951 5315217,3608155 5306691,3603804
> 5305093,3596166 5306159,3591105 5310244,3584799 5310688,3576540
> 5317437,3580359 5328360))',31467) as a_geom,
> st_geomfromtext('POLYGON((3597691.18360053 5323329.04452537,3597943
> 5323120,3606024 5322587,3611561.81746298 5316695.02444028,3611480
> 5316582,3605931 5322425,3597573 5323069,3597691.18360053
> 5323329.04452537))',31467) as b_geom;
> 
> results in:
> "POLYGON((3580359 5328360,3588529 5330935,3597943
> 5323120,3597691.18360053 5323329.04452537,3597573 5323069,3605931
> 5322425,3611480 5316582,3611561.81746298 5316695.02444028,3606024
> 5322587,3612951 5315217,3608155 5306691,3603804 5305093,3596166
> 5306159,3591105 5310244,3584799 5310688,3576540 5317437,3580359 5328360))"
> 
> Vertexes 4 (3597691.18360053 5323329.04452537) and 8 (3611561.81746298
> 5316695.02444028) are out of the supposed geometry extent.
> 
> I am using PostGIS 1.5.2 with GEOS 3.2.2 on a 8.4.5 PostgreSQL-DB on
> 64-bit SUSE Linux.
> 
> Maybe, there is a simple explanation, why this behavior might be wanted
> - if not, I would like to complain this as a bug (or at least suggest an
> improvement of the function in future versions)...
> 
> Regards,
> 
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[postgis-users] bug in st_difference() ?

2011-03-09 Thread Birgit Laggner

 Dear list,

when I am using ST_Difference(), I often have the problem, that the 
resulting geometries contain vertexes lying outside of the supposed 
geometry extent. My impression is that the function tries to preserve 
vertexes of the input geometries and does not check properly, whether 
the point lies inside the extent of the new geometry or not.


Here an example:

select st_astext(st_difference(a_geom, b_geom)) from 
st_geomfromtext('POLYGON((3580359 5328360,3588529 5330935,3597943 
5323120,3606024 5322587,3612951 5315217,3608155 5306691,3603804 
5305093,3596166 5306159,3591105 5310244,3584799 5310688,3576540 
5317437,3580359 5328360))',31467) as a_geom, 
st_geomfromtext('POLYGON((3597691.18360053 5323329.04452537,3597943 
5323120,3606024 5322587,3611561.81746298 5316695.02444028,3611480 
5316582,3605931 5322425,3597573 5323069,3597691.18360053 
5323329.04452537))',31467) as b_geom;


results in:
"POLYGON((3580359 5328360,3588529 5330935,3597943 
5323120,3597691.18360053 5323329.04452537,3597573 5323069,3605931 
5322425,3611480 5316582,3611561.81746298 5316695.02444028,3606024 
5322587,3612951 5315217,3608155 5306691,3603804 5305093,3596166 
5306159,3591105 5310244,3584799 5310688,3576540 5317437,3580359 5328360))"


Vertexes 4 (3597691.18360053 5323329.04452537) and 8 (3611561.81746298 
5316695.02444028) are out of the supposed geometry extent.


I am using PostGIS 1.5.2 with GEOS 3.2.2 on a 8.4.5 PostgreSQL-DB on 
64-bit SUSE Linux.


Maybe, there is a simple explanation, why this behavior might be wanted 
- if not, I would like to complain this as a bug (or at least suggest an 
improvement of the function in future versions)...


Regards,

Birgit.
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Re: [postgis-users] newbie prob: PostgreSQL server will not connect so PostGIS installation fails with dbcreate

2011-03-09 Thread Sean
Did you install PostgreSQL?

It sounds like you need to learn the basics of Relations Database
Management Systems (RDMS) before you dive into PostgreSQL/PostGIS.

The server is the database system.  It manages connections to the
databases.  If the server isn't running, there's nothing to which you
can connect. You can't create or connect to a database until the
server is running (though one may have been created during
installation).

PGAdmin does not create servers, it connects to them.

You might want to start over and use the OpenGeo Suite to install
everything http://opengeo.org/technology/suite/download/

Or, if you're never going to use the database in a multi-user
environment, take a look at SpatialLite (http://www.gaia-gis.it/
spatialite/) and see if it will do what you need.  It's not as robust
as PostGIS but it does a lot.

  Sean

On Mar 9, 4:13 am, "Florian Reimer"  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thanks for the reply but I do not have a "Start Database" Icon. I think a DB 
> was never yet created as PostGIS Installation fails, because the Server 
> created by pg Admin III can not connect.
>
> Is it correct to use default settings?
> Server [localhost]
> Database [postgres]
> Post [5432]
> Username [postgres]
>
> The server does not connect, but in I cant in
> postgresql.conf setting is
> listen_addresses = '*'         #following help files this should make         
>                    the server listen to all connections...
>
> I think I dont understand the entire "Server" concept of PostgreSQL - what is 
> it good for if I might just want to operate on a single machine?
>
> I cant install PostGIS because during Installation it tries dbcreate, which 
> does not work while PostgreSQL server can not connect...
>
> hints will be appreciated. thanks!
>
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Re: [postgis-users] Is there any free postgis host?

2011-03-09 Thread Sean
You can a year of Amazon AWS for free:
http://aws.amazon.com/free/

OpenGeo has an AMI you can use:
http://blog.opengeo.org/2010/09/13/opengeo-suite-community-edition-on-amazon-web-services/

That combination might give a free platform for testing for a year.

   Sean

On Mar 9, 5:38 am, Saka Royban  wrote:
> Hi all
> I wonder if there is any free postgis host on the  web for testing an asp.net
> application which uses postgis?
>
> regards
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[postgis-users] Is there any free postgis host?

2011-03-09 Thread Saka Royban
Hi all
I wonder if there is any free postgis host on the  web for testing an asp.net 
application which uses postgis?

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Re: [postgis-users] Increase query performance

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland

On 08/03/11 17:01, Andreas Forø Tollefsen wrote:


After a suggestion from pgsql_performance i tried with ST_Simplify to
speed things up.
However this gives me a:
NOTICE: ptarray_simplify returned a <2 pts array

Then server connection terminates.

Like this:

SELECT ST_Intersection(priogrid_land.cell,
ST_Simplify(cshapeswdate.geom,0.1)) AS geom,
priogrid_land.gid AS divider, gwcode, gwsyear, gweyear, startdate,
enddate, capname, caplong, caplat, col, row, xcoord, ycoord
FROM priogrid_land, cshapeswdate WHERE ST_Intersects(priogrid_land.cell,
ST_Simplify(cshapeswdate.geom,0.1)) AND cshapeswdate.gwsyear <=1946 AND
cshapeswdate.gweyear >=1946 AND cshapeswdate.startdate <= '1946/1/1';


Yup that's a bug related to the new code in trunk - I think we've 
already got something similar filed in the bug tracker. This is probably 
going to require a Paul to take a look at it.



ATB,

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Re: [postgis-users] newbie prob: PostgreSQL server will not connect so PostGIS installation fails with dbcreate

2011-03-09 Thread Florian Reimer
Hi,

thanks for the reply but I do not have a "Start Database" Icon. I think a DB 
was never yet created as PostGIS Installation fails, because the Server created 
by pg Admin III can not connect.

Is it correct to use default settings?
Server [localhost]
Database [postgres]
Post [5432]
Username [postgres]

The server does not connect, but in I cant in
postgresql.conf setting is
listen_addresses = '*' #following help files this should make   
 the server listen to all connections...

I think I dont understand the entire "Server" concept of PostgreSQL - what is 
it good for if I might just want to operate on a single machine?

I cant install PostGIS because during Installation it tries dbcreate, which 
does not work while PostgreSQL server can not connect...

hints will be appreciated. thanks!

FR
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Re: [postgis-users] 2010 Census

2011-03-09 Thread Paragon Corporation
Eric,
 
I'm not sure if its any value to you, but the PostGIS 2.0 we upgraded the
Tiger geocoder to load in Tiger 2010 data.  We only loaded in the datasets
that were relevant for geocoding, but the system is table driven, so you
could use it to load the other datasets you care about.
 
http://www.postgis.org/documentation/manual-svn/Extras.html#Tiger_Geocoder
 
The generator is described  here:
http://www.postgis.org/documentation/manual-svn/Loader_Generate_Script.html
 
 
Although its pacakged in PostGIS 2.0, it will work in PostGIS 1.5 so you can
still use it if you don't want to try the PostGIS 2.0 SVN (not yet released
version).  In fact for our production use, we've been using it against
PostGIS 1.5.
 
Hope that helps,
Leo and Regina
http://www.postgis.us
 


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From: postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net
[mailto:postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of Eric
Aspengren
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:11 PM
To: postgis-users@postgis.refractions.net
Subject: [postgis-users] 2010 Census


I know this has likely been covered on this list before. So, pardon if this
is redundant, I just signed up. I'm looking for a good tutorial to get the
new 2010 Census data for a state loaded into a PostGIS database, including
all the recent Tiger files and demographic data.

Is there a good one out there?

-- 
Eric Aspengren
Data Manager
Planned Parenthood of the Heartland
(402) 478-VOTE
ericas...@gmail.com

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