Re: Which Powerbook is most like an SE/30?

[Kastegir]

I'd recommend a Powerbook 180. The main reason is that it's got a nice 
active matrix display, so it'll be easier on your eyes if you're going 
to be looking at it for hours at a time. All the non-color 1xx series 
powerbooks do have the same resolution, so that's not going to make a 
difference. They all (except the PB100) have built in floppy drives, so 
you're set there as well. The 180 has a decent processor with a math 
coprocessor (like the se/30, but a bit faster). It'll also hold up to 
14mb ram, the 140 and 10 only hold 8mb. The se/30 will take 128, but who 
puts that much in them? Mine only has 64.

Anyway, I have a 180 that I got a few months back. It's a great vintage 
machine and I heartily recommend it.

Hope that helps.

-Hal

On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 08:14 PM, c d wrote:

> You can compare specs at www.everymac.com, they've got all the specs 
> listed
> there.  From memory, a 170 or 180 will probably fit the bill.  Most of 
> the
> later series 'Books have a 68030, AFAIK only the 100 came with a 
> 68000.  Any
> 1xx series PowerBook is readily available for less than $50.  Heck, you 
> can
> get a working PowerBook 5300 for less than $100 (www.wegener-media.com).
>
> Screen size for most 1xx series is 640x400 - larger than an SE/30's.  
> Most
> stock batteries will not hold a charge for more than a few minutes -
> machines of this vintage are 8-10 years old, so they really 
> shouldn't :-).
> New batteries are available, but expensive - $70-150.  External, 
> regulated
> power supplies should work fine, I've used everything from a car 
> battery to
> NiMH AA cells with mixed results time-wise.
>


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Re: Which Powerbook is most like an SE/30?

[c d]

You can compare specs at www.everymac.com, they've got all the specs listed 
there.  From memory, a 170 or 180 will probably fit the bill.  Most of the 
later series 'Books have a 68030, AFAIK only the 100 came with a 68000.  Any 
1xx series PowerBook is readily available for less than $50.  Heck, you can 
get a working PowerBook 5300 for less than $100 (www.wegener-media.com).

Screen size for most 1xx series is 640x400 - larger than an SE/30's.  Most 
stock batteries will not hold a charge for more than a few minutes - 
machines of this vintage are 8-10 years old, so they really shouldn't :-).  
New batteries are available, but expensive - $70-150.  External, regulated 
power supplies should work fine, I've used everything from a car battery to 
NiMH AA cells with mixed results time-wise.



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Re: Which Powerbook is most like an SE/30?

[rpadv]

on 9/27/02 5:06 PM, jwhite at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The following is a (cross)post that I recently put on the compact mac
> list. It involves both lists, and I don't really know which list it would
> be more relevant to, though I'm thinking it's this one?
> 
> A buddy of mine seems to have conned me into taking over his post with a
> volunteer organization named "Christmas in September". This organization
> fixes up houses for people who can't afford to, and can't do it
> themselves (mostly elderly people, and the disabled).
> 
> His job was to evaluate houses for the types of electrical problems that
> they have. He also had to determine what materials were needed, obtain
> said materials, and find other electricians to help put it all together.
> Usually the organization does 10 to 15 houses a year, which is one
> Saturday in September. It's actually supposed to be an eight hour day,
> but being one of the other electricians for the past 6 years, I know it's
> never been less than 10 hours and was once more than 14.
> 
> I would like to get a Powerbook to help me with this project. I'd like to
> get one as close to an SE/30 as possible since that's what I'll be using
> at home for this. With my wife's busy school schedule, I can't rely on
> using our G4, as alot of her schoolwork can't be done on an SE/30.
> 
> I know some of the things I need to find out such as processor, speed,
> RAM, Hard Drive space, etc, can be found on Apple's website. The things
> they won't have on their site are the little things that are impoertant
> too. Things like how long does a battery last, are batteries still
> available, can they be rebuilt if they aren't (replacing NiCad cells in
> used cases), can a cigar lighter adapter be found for it, so battery
> power isn't an issue, as it won't be leaving my truck anyhow. Also, can
> it support SCSI disk mode, or localtalk, or both. I'd like one that has
> the same screen resolution as a compact (512x384 ?) if possible, so
> spreadsheets, etc., come up as smoothly as possible. A 1.4 floppy would
> be nice as well. Another thing I need to know is how accessible and the
> going cost of a machine is. (that's not to be taken as an offer to buy;
> I've got about 9 months to ponder this)
> 
> Constructive responses would be appreciated,
> 
> J White

Hi
We have several models of the older Power Book. If you can figure out which
model you want we probably have it. Let me know.
Jim


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Re: Which Powerbook is most like an SE/30?

[martin]

>it support SCSI disk mode, or localtalk, or both. I'd like one that has
>the same screen resolution as a compact (512x384 ?) if possible, so
>spreadsheets, etc., come up as smoothly as possible. A 1.4 floppy would
>be nice as well. Another thing I need to know is how accessible and the
>going cost of a machine is. (that's not to be taken as an offer to buy;
>I've got about 9 months to ponder this)


I use my PB145 with my SE/30, and they get along just fine. The PB145, like
many Powerbooks, has an oddball screen size, but my calendar app opens
up looking the same on both machines. I hardly ever have to resize/reformat.

The reason I suggest this particular one is that it's probably the cheapest of
the old Classic Powerbook line, and perhaps easier to find. I'd love to have
another myself, but I'm finding ANY old Powerbook rare here in Victoria.
My guess is people just hang on to them, like Suzuki Samurais.

I have a GV Modem, a pilfered 250 MB IBM HD, and am maxed out a 8MB RAM.
Great machine for the purpose you described. If you're stuck for software when
the time comes, contact me through this list and I'll be happy to help you out.


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Which Powerbook is most like an SE/30?

[jwhite]

The following is a (cross)post that I recently put on the compact mac 
list. It involves both lists, and I don't really know which list it would 
be more relevant to, though I'm thinking it's this one?

A buddy of mine seems to have conned me into taking over his post with a 
volunteer organization named "Christmas in September". This organization 
fixes up houses for people who can't afford to, and can't do it 
themselves (mostly elderly people, and the disabled).

His job was to evaluate houses for the types of electrical problems that 
they have. He also had to determine what materials were needed, obtain 
said materials, and find other electricians to help put it all together. 
Usually the organization does 10 to 15 houses a year, which is one 
Saturday in September. It's actually supposed to be an eight hour day, 
but being one of the other electricians for the past 6 years, I know it's 
never been less than 10 hours and was once more than 14. 

I would like to get a Powerbook to help me with this project. I'd like to 
get one as close to an SE/30 as possible since that's what I'll be using 
at home for this. With my wife's busy school schedule, I can't rely on 
using our G4, as alot of her schoolwork can't be done on an SE/30.

I know some of the things I need to find out such as processor, speed, 
RAM, Hard Drive space, etc, can be found on Apple's website. The things 
they won't have on their site are the little things that are impoertant 
too. Things like how long does a battery last, are batteries still 
available, can they be rebuilt if they aren't (replacing NiCad cells in 
used cases), can a cigar lighter adapter be found for it, so battery 
power isn't an issue, as it won't be leaving my truck anyhow. Also, can 
it support SCSI disk mode, or localtalk, or both. I'd like one that has 
the same screen resolution as a compact (512x384 ?) if possible, so 
spreadsheets, etc., come up as smoothly as possible. A 1.4 floppy would 
be nice as well. Another thing I need to know is how accessible and the 
going cost of a machine is. (that's not to be taken as an offer to buy; 
I've got about 9 months to ponder this)

Constructive responses would be appreciated,

J White

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Re: Was Best OS for 145 (what is sneakernet)

[Scott Holder]

April 1st is known as "April Fools Day". It's the day to play practical
jokes on people. Not sure of the history of it.

The RFC people are known for their humo(u)rous RFCs for the day though.
CPIP, RFCs 1925, 2550, 2551, 2795 (The Infinite Monkey Protocol Suite),
and various others.

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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Was Best OS for 145 (what is sneakernet)

What's the significance of the date?


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Re: Was Best OS for 145 (what is sneakernet)

[Esver Camacho]

>  > Well, here's a good thing to read if you like that:
>>  http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/
>
>ROTFL! Fabulous! (Note the date on the RFC, though. :-)



What's the significance of the date?

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Re: delete

[Andrew]

> Hello u all,
>
> i´ve got an Powerbook 150 and it works quite allright an it is
> still good enough for me.
> But a little problem is: where ist the delete key?
> I can use the backspace-key to erase a letter behind the cursor,
> but how can i delete a letter ahead of the cursor?
> I didn´t find a key so far!
>

Try ForwardDelete:
http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=1727&db=mac

Andrew


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Re: Was Best OS for 145 (what is sneakernet)

[Cameron Kaiser]

> Well, here's a good thing to read if you like that:
> http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/

ROTFL! Fabulous! (Note the date on the RFC, though. :-)

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Re: delete

[Donn Haven Lathrop]

>>can i delete a letter ahead of the cursor?<<

I think he's looking for a forward-delete key.  Ain't one.  There are a
couple of programs that set up special key combinations.  Hidden Finder
Features was one of them, IIRC.

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Re: delete

[Mike Amato]

on 9/27/02 12:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> i´ve got an Powerbook 150 and it works quite allright an it is
> still good enough for me.
> But a little problem is: where ist the delete key?
> I can use the backspace-key to erase a letter behind the cursor,
> but how can i delete a letter ahead of the cursor?
> I didn´t find a key so far!
> Peter
> (not native english speaking)

There is no forward delete on the 150 just back delete.
The newer Powerbooks have a function key which when used makes the back
delete into a forward.
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Re: delete

[Scott Holder]

I've never seen a 150's keyboard, but if it's anything like the 520c and
Duo keyboards I am familiar with, the answer is you don't. Most laptop
keyboards drop a few keys deemed unnecessary, and the delete key is
often one.

ICBWT, especially as I've never seen a 150's.

Scott Holder

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Hello u all,

i´ve got an Powerbook 150 and it works quite allright an it is still
good enough for me. But a little problem is: where ist the delete key? I
can use the backspace-key to erase a letter behind the cursor, but how
can i delete a letter ahead of the cursor? I didn´t find a key so far!

Thanks for answer!

greetings

Peter
(not native english speaking)


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delete

[Peter.Tiger]

Hello u all,

i´ve got an Powerbook 150 and it works quite allright an it is
still good enough for me.
But a little problem is: where ist the delete key?
I can use the backspace-key to erase a letter behind the cursor,
but how can i delete a letter ahead of the cursor?
I didn´t find a key so far!

Thanks for answer!

greetings

Peter
(not native english speaking)


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Re: Was Best OS for 145 (what is sneakernet)

[Scott Holder]

Well, here's a good thing to read if you like that:

http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/

Someone finally implemented RFC 1149 - Carrier Pigeon IP. Check out
those ping times! No chance of any online gaming there ;)

Scott Holder

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Bird
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Was Best OS for 145 (what is sneakernet)

A related bit of humor is to calculate the bandwidth of a station wagon
(I guess I should say a minivan today) filled with mag tapes. I
calculate something around 2 gigabytes/sec. (if you don't mind the high
latency).

Mark Geary


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