Re: What Sytem Disk For Booting a 180?

[k]

>At 12:50 AM +0100 2/9/03, Anders & Anna-Lee Fager wrote:
>>I'm trying to boot an 180-machine and it wants a floppy to start on. But
>>for some reason it don't seem to agree with a System 7 floppy. It is "not
>>the right system."  I thought those where the right ones? Or?
>
>   You need the right enabler, and it'll work.  Get a set of disks for
>that particular machine, and it will have the right disk tools disk as well.
>Paul
>
it is system 7.1.4 or something similar that you should find - I have 
a bootdisk copy on my hd for a powerbook 150
- write me off list ? if you cant find it elsewhere.
k
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Re: Norton Util. 6 on PB3400c?

[k]

>Can I use and boot from Norton Utilities 6 (believe it has OS9.2 on it)
>on a PB3400c machine which has OS8.6 installed?

Norton 6 will work well with 8.6
Norton 4 will work with 8.0 -8.6
Norton 2-3 will work with 7.0 -> 7.6.1

is it a Norton original cd ?  if it doesnt start correctly - blame 
the 9.2 OS and not norton.

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5300 Boot floppy

[JeffH]

Is it possible to make a boot floppy for the 5300 that will allow some kind
of network access, either localtalk or ethernet? I'm trying to rescue a
file off what appears to be a Pismo HD, and the 5300 is the only other
machine I have that's IDE. I'm hoping that I can start up off of a floppy
and see the HD in order to get the file.

thanks


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Re: Mac OS

[Gary Sparkes]

its the 7.5.? diskcopy image i need to make floppies from it on a windowspc
> >this was an option if you already had toast a program for burning cds
> >- you can save discimages in that one -
> >and if you have toast in both pc and mac they can read each others
> >images, and toast can mount disk copy images on the mac anyhow.
> >kenta
> 
> Not sure if Roxio EZ CD Creator for Windows can read Roxio Toast disc
> images unless you install a software like Macdrive 98 or newer that
> reads/writes/saves Mac files on a PC.
> 
> Charlie



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Re: Mac OS

[Charlie Reyes]

>this was an option if you already had toast a program for burning cds
>- you can save discimages in that one -
>and if you have toast in both pc and mac they can read each others
>images, and toast can mount disk copy images on the mac anyhow.
>kenta

Not sure if Roxio EZ CD Creator for Windows can read Roxio Toast disc
images unless you install a software like Macdrive 98 or newer that
reads/writes/saves Mac files on a PC.

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Re: What Sytem Disk For Booting a 180?

[Paul Nelson]

At 12:50 AM +0100 2/9/03, Anders & Anna-Lee Fager wrote:
>I'm trying to boot an 180-machine and it wants a floppy to start on. But
>for some reason it don't seem to agree with a System 7 floppy. It is "not
>the right system."  I thought those where the right ones? Or?

You need the right enabler, and it'll work.  Get a set of disks for
that particular machine, and it will have the right disk tools disk as well.
Paul



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Re: 1400 G3 upgrade

[Paul Nelson]

At 10:09 AM -0700 2/7/03, THE ROCK wrote:
>I have never seen any processor upgrades for the powerbook 3400. Am I
>missing something? It would be nice if there was one.

The only way is a MB swap, making it a Kanga.
Paul



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Re: FS - Many portables that must go

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On 2/8/2003 9:29 AM, "victoria brandon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> (This is the fourth try at posting this over the last week to the PowerBook
>> list. The first ones still haven't appeared. My apologies if this appears
>> multiple times.)
> 
> 
> It shouldn't have appeared this time either:  The Swap List would *love* to
> pore over this inventory list.

This has been one weird experience. I started trying to post this listing to
the swap list starting Thursday a week ago. It finally appeared yesterday, 8
days later, on my eighth try to that list. I have no idea what happened to
the first 7 tries as I never got any response from anyone/anything notifying
me of any problems.

In the meantime, when I was starting to think it would never make it, I
decided to try posting it to the PowerBook list. Since list rules allow it
(though personally, until this post, I only post FS items to the swap list)
I figured that maybe, for whatever reason, it might appear on this list and
at least some people would have a shot at it. From then on, I alternated my
attempts to post it between the two lists, again with no luck. I finally
gave up and posted it to both lists at the same time in a last ditch try at
listing the items. Only then did it appear - and of course, it appeared on
both lists at the same time. Go figure. :-(

Jim


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What Sytem Disk For Booting a 180?

[Anders & Anna-Lee Fager]

I'm trying to boot an 180-machine and it wants a floppy to start on. But for some 
reason it don't seem to agree with a System 7 floppy. It is "not the right system."  I 
thought those where the right ones? Or?

Anders


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Norton Util. 6 on PB3400c?

[Bill Hatchell]

Can I use and boot from Norton Utilities 6 (believe it has OS9.2 on it) 
on a PB3400c machine which has OS8.6 installed?  In other words, can 
the 3400c emergency boot from this particular version of Norton or can 
I force the Norton to boot using perhaps a built-in OS 8.6 rather than 
9.2 just in case?  What are the alternative disk utilities for older 
PowerBooks running something between OS8.1 and 8.6 but not OS9?  
Anyone?  Thanks.


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Upgrading HD in PB 190cs

[Bryan Taylor]

Would anybody know a URL or have brief instructions (from experience) on 
how to access the 500Mb drive in a 190cs? I have a 2Gb drive from a 
Wallstreet I'd like to replace it with. I appreciate that with HFS, I'll 
need to break up the 2Gb into several smaller partitions to keep the 
block size in reasonable bounds, but is there any other opportunities?

TIA
Bryan

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Re: Mac OS

[k]

>hrm? what should i do?
>- Original Message -
>From: "k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:59 AM
>Subject: Re: Mac OS

this was an option if you already had toast a program for burning cds 
- you can save discimages in that one -
and if you have toast in both pc and mac they can read each others 
images, and toast can mount disk copy images on the mac anyhow.
kenta
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Re: 1400 G3 upgrade

[David Allen]

>From what I've been able to find, it appears that the 3400  has no
practical G3 upgrade path.  The (if memory serves) soldered on CPU and the
sharing of the case with the G3/250 PB make it impractical to upgrade the
3400.

The differences between the 3400/G3 seem to be (besides hard/CD drives,
modem, and some no longer needed 3400 parts.) different logic, power
supply, IR  boards, fan assembly, bottom case and battery. It would
probably be cheaper to buy a G3 PB than to do the upgrade, but if a G3
with a bad display were found?

David Allen

THE ROCK wrote:

> I have never seen any processor upgrades for the powerbook 3400. Am I
> missing something? It would be nice if there was one.
> Peter.


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Re: Mac OS

[Gary Sparkes]

hrm? what should i do?
- Original Message - 
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To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Mac OS


> >
> >  > > >
> >>  > > is there a pc program that can read the disk copy images?
> >  > >
> 
> on our domestic maclist (macsweden) someone said that toasts 
> diskimages (from roxio) can be transferred to a pc read  and if you 
> want  then burnt, a toast discimage is very much alike a disk copy 
> img, and toast can mount img files. but then you  need to have a copy 
> of toast, but if you have it already try "save as diskimage" and in a 
> pc friendly format ?
> kenta
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Re: Torx

[Gary Sparkes]

hah, i was talking about the 100 series


> Yeah, hrm... ;-)
>
> I suppose that depends on the machine.  (Are we still talking about the
5x0?)
>
> On my Wallstreet and on my 5300, the screws that retain the case
> stiffener are VERY deeply recessed.  The screws that hold in the
> keyboard on the 5300 are also fairly deeply recessed.  And some of
> the screws on the case bottom of my Wallstreet are deeply recessed.
>
> A friend of mine had a set of torx bits for his screw driver, but
> they couldn't get at some of the screws in my case.  In the end, I
> ended up buying a handful of Torx drivers from Sears with medium to
> REALLY long shafts (ever tried getting inside an old all-in-one
> Classic or SE?)
>
> Peace,
> Drew
>
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Re: torx in u.k.

[Gary Sparkes]

heh, but... most of us are not lucky to be british or be in that area :)
> here in the u.k.  i got both the torx sizes i needed for getting inside my
> pb160  from halfords ( a motoring & spare parts chain )  , one's in a
> screwdriver form -the other is for use with a socket set (!)  but i treat
> it like a stubby screwdriver as i don't need that much effort to undo them
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Re: 1400 G3 upgrade

[THE ROCK]

I have never seen any processor upgrades for the powerbook 3400. Am I
missing something? It would be nice if there was one.
Peter.


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Re: Mac OS

[k]

>
>  > > >
>>  > > is there a pc program that can read the disk copy images?
>  > >

on our domestic maclist (macsweden) someone said that toasts 
diskimages (from roxio) can be transferred to a pc read  and if you 
want  then burnt, a toast discimage is very much alike a disk copy 
img, and toast can mount img files. but then you  need to have a copy 
of toast, but if you have it already try "save as diskimage" and in a 
pc friendly format ?
kenta
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Re: Correction: 3400c not 5300

[Sionnach Aisling]

> On the Palm issue, from the manual it looks like you
> can synch between two copies on a powerbook and a
> desktop machine, but details are scanty and I
> haven't tried it yet.
> Anyone confirm it's do-able?
> Roger

If I'm understanding your question correctly, yes,
it's doable.  When you install Palm Software on a PC
or Mac, you can create profiles for different devices,
so if you had a couple Palms (like I do for me and my
wife) we each have our own profile and we just need to
select the proper one when we go to synch... It keeps
all our data seperate.  If you want to install Palm
software on two machines (say work and home) and synch
your Palm to both... you can do that too. Although,
you'll need to be pretty persistent about synching at
both locations pretty regularly to make sure you
always have what you need on both ends.

Cheers,
Sionnach

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Re: new / Powerbook 3400/200

[k]

>it should work
>Alex D. Retterer
>Apple Computer Specialist

thanks a lot !
we had a green light of death experience here - that fixed itself - 
after that we accidently did all the right things -
http://webobjects.uwaterloo.ca/mac2400/power_reset_by_sydney_ho.htm
kenta
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Re: Torx

[Andrew Kershaw]

>well it would work for the t-8, seeing as all the t-8's are not recessed,
>besides, the torx bitset would always come in handy :)

Yeah, hrm... ;-)

I suppose that depends on the machine.  (Are we still talking about the 5x0?)

On my Wallstreet and on my 5300, the screws that retain the case 
stiffener are VERY deeply recessed.  The screws that hold in the 
keyboard on the 5300 are also fairly deeply recessed.  And some of 
the screws on the case bottom of my Wallstreet are deeply recessed.

A friend of mine had a set of torx bits for his screw driver, but 
they couldn't get at some of the screws in my case.  In the end, I 
ended up buying a handful of Torx drivers from Sears with medium to 
REALLY long shafts (ever tried getting inside an old all-in-one 
Classic or SE?)

Peace,
Drew

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Re: USB peripheral options on OS 8.1

[Andrew Kershaw]

>Nope, I was able to get USB working on my 6500 with 8.1. You have to 
>Tome Viewer the 1.2 drivers and pull them out, but it works. The 
>readme for 1.2 says it needs 8.5.1, but it does work in 8.1. For 
>mice and keyboards and such. Anything else is luck and ymmv.

Well, that is good to know.  I learn something new every day on this 
list...  I wonder if that approach will work for PC cards on the 
2400/3400/Kanga/Wallstreet under 8.1...

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Re: FS - Many portables that must go

[victoria brandon]

on 2/7/03 8:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> (This is the fourth try at posting this over the last week to the PowerBook
> list. The first ones still haven't appeared. My apologies if this appears
> multiple times.)


It shouldn't have appeared this time either:  The Swap List would *love* to
pore over this inventory list.

Best,
Victoria


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Re: Powerbook 140 Dilemma

[victoria brandon]

on 2/8/03 5:12 AM, John Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Try looking at http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html
> There might be a link somewhere in there to download a startup floppy disk.

Be sure to download the Disk Copy software as well (available from the same
site) if you don't already have it.

Best,
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Re: Powerbook 140 Dilemma

[John Smith]

Try looking at http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html
There might be a link somewhere in there to download a startup floppy disk.
I haven't had much experience in the field of floppy disks I'm afraid... :-)

Good luck with it,

John.


On 8/2/03 6:16 PM, "K.L. Shelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Booting from a floppy... if I don't have the floppy (which I
> don't), that'll be difficult. And I doubt my campus helpdesk will have
> something that old. Is there anywhere reliable that I could obtain the
> floppy? I bought the computer itself for $15 from the Salvation Army where
> I worked at the time - and it lasted a good two months, at least, before I
> gave up on it. But, being a Salvation Army, uh, salvation, it had no disk,
> of course.
> 
>   
> Kathryn L. Shelly - Kate
>MHC Class of '03
>   
> Somebody said that it happens all over the world --
> And I do believe that it's true.
> The sun's coming up and we're doing all the things that we should.
> Doesn't everbody here believe in the things we do?
> - Talking Heads, 'Perfect World'
>   
> 


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Re: torx in u.k.

[ken ross]

>Gary Sparkes wrote:
>> just buy a torx bit set for the screw drivers with the changable tips, it
>> has like t-1 to t-1
>Those will not work, as the holes the screws are set into are smaller
>than the big part of those tips and the tip isn't long enough to reach
>the screws.

here in the u.k.  i got both the torx sizes i needed for getting inside my
pb160  from halfords ( a motoring & spare parts chain )  , one's in a
screwdriver form -the other is for use with a socket set (!)  but i treat
it like a stubby screwdriver as i don't need that much effort to undo them .

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