Re: Off topic OT : Long weekend topic - what macs do you own?

2005-05-23 Thread Dan Palka
With my list of 53 Macs, I'd like to staple my one and only PC to the 
bottom!  It's a 1.8ghz AMD something that I never ever use.  My 540c sees
more action than that thing.

I seriously haven't even powered it on in like 6 months.  I like that!

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Subject: Re: Off topic OT : Long weekend topic - what macs do you own?
Date: Mon, May 23, 2005, 10:10 PM


 You know, with 3 machines (and several Apple II's too) I was feeling
 like I was a computer collector.  I feel so inadequate next to people
 like you, Rob!  :)

 Later.Howard

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 Yeah, I know how you feel. I've got 5 and it just isn't big enough.

 These folks definitely think size matters.!

 8*{

 Well, size doesn't always matter. I have four computers, but two of them
 are Windoze machines, so I really feel inadequate.

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best way to rebuild boot blocks?

2005-05-23 Thread bmcewen


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2005-05-23 Thread bmcewen


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best way to rebuild boot blocks?

2005-05-23 Thread bmcewen

Sorry if a blank mail came though, darn webmail.  

I have a 1400 with a 20 gig HD, the drive isn't booting.  

I thought at first it was not spinning up but now that I've had a chance to 
take a look at it it might just have the boot sectors damaged.

What options do I have for rebuilding the boot sectors without losing the HD 
contents?

I have Norton 3.5.2 boot disk, somewhere I have a diskwarrior (unknown 
version), and I'm not sure I can find my 9.1 Cd.  I've loaned a bit of my older 
repair tools out since I was mostly using X now.  I had a SystemWorks/Mac but 
that may be out of the house as well.

It's been a long time since I've done 9.1 stuff, what are my options for 
rebuilding just the boot blocks and keeping the data intact?

Norton-ing was able to scan the drive and see the files, but Norton crashes 
when the disk drivers are loaded.  I'm not sure if it's because my Norton is 
too old, or if it's that the disk drivers are corrupt.  Or the drive could be 
fading, too.

Can someone help with a workflow and which versions of the older Norton and 
Disk Warrior would work with HFS+/9.1?

Thanks,

Brian


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Re: Off topic OT : Long weekend topic - what macs do you own?

2005-05-23 Thread Rob
I've got a few Amigas - several 500's and a 1000 (my original Amiga!). 
I've got several ST's and a half dozen UNIX workstations as well. I sold 
a couple of Commodore 8 bit machines recently (I never really used them) 
but I stil have an Atari 800XL, A number of PC's as well - but most of 
them are working machines and get jettisoned as soon as they serve no 
purpose... I think it's called obsessive compulsive disorder...


My wife would like them *all* gone - but I try to keep them in small 
piles so that it doesn't look like there are so many...


Cameron Kaiser wrote:


Well, no one asked for my Commodore computer list. That's where I'm at.
 




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Hard drive

2005-05-23 Thread John Perkins Jr.
Is there an adapter that will let me plug a Western Digital Enterprise 
WDE2170-0003B2 hard drive into the SCSI port on the back of my PB 520?

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Re: Off topic OT : Long weekend topic - what macs do you own?

2005-05-23 Thread Brian Mahoney

Rob wrote:

I've got a few Amigas - several 500's and a 1000 (my original Amiga!). 
I've got several ST's and a half dozen UNIX workstations as well. I 
sold a couple of Commodore 8 bit machines recently (I never really 
used them) but I stil have an Atari 800XL, A number of PC's as well - 
but most of them are working machines and get jettisoned as soon as 
they serve no purpose... I think it's called obsessive compulsive 
disorder...


My wife would like them *all* gone - but I try to keep them in small 
piles so that it doesn't look like there are so many...


Cameron Kaiser wrote:


Well, no one asked for my Commodore computer list. That's where I'm at.
 




Last input from me, (since I started this thing!), I think my Kim1 is 
the oldest Commodore, got lots of 64s and 128s plus some Commodore PCs, 
Apple clones such as an Orange Micro, two Franklin Aces as well as 
something called a Decider which is actually two computers in one, with 
the normal Apple processor and a Z80 one as well, several TI-99/4a , 
Dynalogic Hyperions (4 at least) plus a storage tower as large and as 
heavy as my old IBM server, an Amiga 500, Laser 128, Apple IIc (2) , IIe 
platinum, Compaq portables, an Alex terminal which was used for an early 
form of the internet (kind of) up here in Canada, many Tandys including 
some cool tiny models sold from the RS catalogues, IBM PCjrs ... ok I'll 
stop. This was meant for Macs originally and it's been fun seeing what 
everyone has in that genre. Let's move on to PB troubleshooting! Thanks 
everyone who participated.


BM

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Re: Off topic OT : Long weekend topic - what macs do you own?

2005-05-23 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Last input from me, (since I started this thing!), I think my Kim1 is 
 the oldest Commodore, 

Ah yes, I have a Revision D KIM myself. I wish I had an MOS, but it's
a Commodore KIM.

Okay, all done.

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Re: Off topic OT : Long weekend topic - what macs do you own?

2005-05-23 Thread Fluxstringer

Rob wrote:

I've got a few Amigas - several 500's and a 1000 (my original 
Amiga!). I've got several ST's and a half dozen UNIX workstations 
as well. I sold a couple of Commodore 8 bit machines recently (I 
never really used them) but I stil have an Atari 800XL, A number of 
PC's as well - but most of them are working machines and get 
jettisoned as soon as they serve no purpose... I think it's called 
obsessive compulsive disorder...


My wife would like them *all* gone - but I try to keep them in 
small piles so that it doesn't look like there are so many...


Cameron Kaiser wrote:


Well, no one asked for my Commodore computer list. That's where I'm at.




Last input from me, (since I started this thing!), I think my Kim1 
is the oldest Commodore, got lots of 64s and 128s plus some 
Commodore PCs, Apple clones such as an Orange Micro, two Franklin 
Aces as well as something called a Decider which is actually two 
computers in one, with the normal Apple processor and a Z80 one as 
well, several TI-99/4a , Dynalogic Hyperions (4 at least) plus a 
storage tower as large and as heavy as my old IBM server, an Amiga 
500, Laser 128, Apple IIc (2) , IIe platinum, Compaq portables, an 
Alex terminal which was used for an early form of the internet (kind 
of) up here in Canada, many Tandys including some cool tiny models 
sold from the RS catalogues, IBM PCjrs ... ok I'll stop. This was 
meant for Macs originally and it's been fun seeing what everyone has 
in that genre. Let's move on to PB troubleshooting! Thanks everyone 
who participated.


BM


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Re: best way to rebuild boot blocks?

2005-05-23 Thread Bruce Johnson


On May 23, 2005, at 7:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Sorry if a blank mail came though, darn webmail.

I have a 1400 with a 20 gig HD, the drive isn't booting.

I thought at first it was not spinning up but now that I've had a  
chance to take a look at it it might just have the boot sectors  
damaged.


What options do I have for rebuilding the boot sectors without  
losing the HD contents?


Start off the system CD, use Drive setup to re-install the drivers? I  
think that should work.


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Re: best way to rebuild boot blocks?

2005-05-23 Thread Fluxstringer

On May 23, 2005, at 7:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Sorry if a blank mail came though, darn webmail.

I have a 1400 with a 20 gig HD, the drive isn't booting.

I thought at first it was not spinning up but now that I've had a 
chance to take a look at it it might just have the boot sectors 
damaged.


What options do I have for rebuilding the boot sectors without 
losing the HD contents?


Start off the system CD, use Drive setup to re-install the drivers? 
I  think that should work.



__

I think OS 9 drive Setup would insist on initializing.  Thus wiping 
out the content.


But a try at using the installer to install just the Os may also fail 
if the disk cannot be read or the remaining format can't be latched 
onto.


IIRC of course.

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Re: Off topic OT : Long weekend topic - what macs do you own?

2005-05-23 Thread Robert Little
Wow, lessee...

In order of age...

IIci - w/the '040 card and composite video out. Sys 6!
Portable - Currently dead (blown resistor on board).
Plus - Movers cracked the case, damaged the analog.
PowerBook 100 - Works... sorta (screen needs repair).
Centris 660AV - My main video astronomy machine.
Quadra 605 - Looks cool, runs nice, don't need it.
PowerBook 150 - In route - eBay find.
PowerBook 540c - My main machine. Really.
PowerMac 6100/60AV - Might keep this one.
PowerMac 6100/66 DOS - Cool, but redundant.
PowerBook 5300c - Loose plug (surprise), but nice.
PowerMac 7200/90 - My future server.
PowerMac 5260/120AV - A TV with screen capture.
iBook (Tangerine) - Being repaired (needs keyboard,
CD)

But my most used machines are my old Tandy Model 102
laptop and my Palm IIIxe (with GoType keyboard). I
also have some PC laptops, such as a Toshiba 225CDS
and an IBM ThinkPad TP500 (a sublaptop), and a PC
desktop, an HP Pavillion, crippled with a Celeron and
Windows ME.

Think that covers it. 

Rob

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Re: Off topic OT : Long weekend topic - what macs do you own?

2005-05-23 Thread Terry Holtrey

OK, I am feeling compelled to participate in this:

Woz ][gs w/ Transwarp Accelerator and SCSI 2.5 card
Apple ][c+ with Apple flat panel display
Prototype Apple Settop box
5 Outbounds from the first to last (the first ones were the coolest by 
the way)

Dynamac Magnesium
2 Powerbook 100s
2400c
2 Mac 128s

But much more importantly all of the Newtons but the 2000 series 
including an eMate.




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OFF TOPIC - Blues.

2005-05-23 Thread Dale Hill
I can't do the count, literally. One large garage outbuilding full, a bedroom 
so full I cannot get through it, without climbing over them, then in our 
attic/room, I have a mini-museum. I thought, when I retired, I would swap my 
stuff on the MacLaunch swap list. Unfortunately, arthritis and doctors ordered 
me no lifting, period.  I bought 35 baby Macs at a school sale for a buck, 
because I was the only one who was interested in them.

I have a 17 ColorOne Apple upstairs hooked up to a Mac IIVX. The Bondi is down 
here for my wife and cards. My son just installed a G3 upgrade to a 6400. Also 
have a G3 upgrade coming for my 5400.  My upstairs museum is made by using 4 
sets of 4 baby makes and 1 by 10s. It gets hot up there in the summer, but 
amazingly, they still work.

Sadly, ... I have to buy a new laptop to get on the Internet, since I can no 
long sit at this desk longer than 20 minutes without hydrocordone. I don't even 
know how to sleep with pain meds and Ambien.

I use my Macs for freelance writing. Look in this week's Time magazine to find 
my 4th letter to the editor, that I prepared on my PB1400. 4 is easily the 
Galactic Champion.

I want to get a Laptop that I can do some Blues stuff on with Garageband. Any 
experience would be much appreciated. Guitar and harpman with a dog, Sassie 
Rae that sings the Blues.

Dale

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Re: what macs do you own?/most obscure Mac

2005-05-23 Thread SaulBro
 but you haven't got an OutBound!
 
 Ben


My stuff:


Outbound notebook 030 (pre-Powerbook Mac clone)
PowerCenter150 G3/400, 336mb RAM
Beige G3/333, 768mb RAM
PowerMac 7600/150
PowerMac 7600/180
PowerMac 7100/80
Two Beige G3/266
Two IIci’s
Three Mac Plusses
SE/30
Performa 631CD
Color Classic
Two Duo 230’s
Two Powerbook 520c’s
Powerbook 140
Powerbook 1400c/133
PB 1400cs/117
PB 5300c/100
PB 3400c/200
PB G3 Wallstreet/266
Newton MessagePad MP2100U
Newton eMate 300
Handspring Visor Deluxe
Palm M105


Saul Broudy


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Re: best way to rebuild boot blocks?

2005-05-23 Thread Brian


On Monday, May 23, 2005, at 04:19 PM, Fluxstringer wrote:



I think OS 9 drive Setup would insist on initializing.  Thus wiping 
out the content.


But a try at using the installer to install just the Os may also fail 
if the disk cannot be read or the remaining format can't be latched 
onto.


IIRC of course.

That was my recollection, too (drive setup would toast it).  Unless you 
can make it just do the 'update disk driver' thing, but IIRC that only 
would show if the drive were mounted at the time.  With an unmounted 
drive, I recall Drive Setup to be a little underfeatured in the past.


However, using a combo of a 8.1 boot system on a CF card, and DW for OS 
9, got things going, it seems fine now.  Culprit appears to be WACom 
Mozilla temp file got way crosslinked, and then loss of system folder 
blessed status etc somehow.


Thanks all for the help and emails;

Brian


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Re: best way to rebuild boot blocks?

2005-05-23 Thread Fluxstringer

On Monday, May 23, 2005, at 04:19 PM, Fluxstringer wrote:



I think OS 9 drive Setup would insist on initializing.  Thus wiping 
out the content.


But a try at using the installer to install just the Os may also 
fail if the disk cannot be read or the remaining format can't be 
latched onto.


IIRC of course.

That was my recollection, too (drive setup would toast it).  Unless 
you can make it just do the 'update disk driver' thing, but IIRC 
that only would show if the drive were mounted at the time.  With an 
unmounted drive, I recall Drive Setup to be a little underfeatured 
in the past.


However, using a combo of a 8.1 boot system on a CF card, and DW for 
OS 9, got things going, it seems fine now.  Culprit appears to be 
WACom Mozilla temp file got way crosslinked, and then loss of system 
folder blessed status etc somehow.


Thanks all for the help and emails;

Brian


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So rather than rebuilding the boot blocks what you did sort of jogged 
the data somehow?


Glad you got it back.

A defrag ought to set it in full order again I assume.
Can you SCSI or ethernet to another Mac to back it up?
A year ago I used SCSI disk mode to get my 1400 back from some nasty behavior.

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Fake Mac

2005-05-23 Thread Dale Hill
The most obscure Mac that I have is a Fake Sony Mac. It looks like a Mac but it 
has two 3.5s underneath the screen.  I think it is named, Sony S103, a word 
processor which has two z-80 chips in it. Out of all the million websites on 
the web, I have found a picture of one. They are begging for a picture in the 
Old Mac Museum. 3 FX's. PB 150. (Actually, the Sony is a baby Bondi. Reduce a 
Bondi to a 9 inch screen and put two diskdrives across from each other, and 
you've got it. Also have a 40 lb luggable Compac out there that has 2 5.25 
drives. Some CPM's too.

I am no longer collecting and am looking to tak'em to the auto-salvage folks. 
They love old computers. I can no longer switch a burned-in screen for a 
non-burned one.  I think I own 4 SE30s, but 3 have burnins.  I have two SE 
Superdrives.

I'm on my uMax on the net, because out here, the max download I can get is 
26,400. My boys are planning on coming home and cleaning out their bedroom, 
which is 4 feet tall Macs. I am the Jay Leno of Macintoshes.  Find me another 
airplane hanger, p-lease. Check out my webpage, and you can find a few. My 
webpage is a googlezapp(c)2005 dale hill. Put ZZELAXX in google and see what 
you find. 8-) I'm gettin' back into the harp and Blues because I lift a Blues 
Harp.
Dale

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