Re: Best way to legally copy DVD

2005-07-03 Thread Thoma Mattox
Are there any options available for those of us still using OS9.2.2?


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Re: Best way to legally copy DVD

2005-07-03 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jul 3, 2005, at 7:13 AM, Thoma Mattox wrote:


Are there any options available for those of us still using OS9.2.2?


Possibly Toast? Otherwise, not much, afaik. Certainly all the free  
apps won't work as they're all dependent on OSS unix libraries.


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I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread The Real Seed Catalogue
Yep, I've done mac support since 1989, starting at  college.   We 
were badly hit by viruses from time to time under late OS 6 ( I 
think early 7), as you can imagine - loads of students all runnign 
their OS off floppies that they swapped more often than bedmates. . . 
weekly scans with disinfectant fixed it.


Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of 
years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was pretty 
good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your system and 
only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a certain day 
of a certain month.


Since then I've seen nothing.(Now on 9.1) I have a copy of Virex 
antivirus program  (not norton, thank god) but not actually active 
and only ever run it about twice a year when I'm feeling paranoid!


Ben

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Re: IR file transfer on PB 190

2005-07-03 Thread Robert Patterson


Caleb,

Even if the IR transfer won't work (it's doubtful), you have another
option, one which I use all the time between my various Macs and my
Windows machines.

That option is StarGate, a shareware package which has both Mac (using
System 7.1+) and Windows (3.1 and 95+ versions) applications.  You only
need a null-modem cable hooked between the machines. It's pretty neat;
you have Incoming and Outgoing folders on each platform, and anything
placed in the out folder on one platform gets transferred to the in folder
on the other platform automatically when the programs are activated.

 Rob


I'm going to get my dad's old Toshiba Satellite 325, and I'd like to know if 
there's any way possible to transfer files over IR to the Satellite from the 
190, and vice versa. I fully intend on keeping the 190 as a travel machine, 
however, and I'd like to be able to share files without resorting to the 
floppy dance that I use when transferring files to and from my Linux 
machine. I also don't want to deal with the hassle of e-mailing files to 
myself, but I may have no choice. Help please.

Caleb

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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Brian McEwen


On Jul 2, 2005, at 6:44 PM, The Real Seed Catalogue wrote:


Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of  
years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was  
pretty good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your  
system and only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a  
certain day of a certain month.


http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/0,261744,39200021,00.htm

50% chance it will take 12 min to be compromised, with a regular  
Windows box.  8000 new viruses in 2005 alone.


Preaching to the choir, I know..

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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Dan Palka
on 7/2/05 5:44 PM, The Real Seed Catalogue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yep, I've done mac support since 1989, starting at  college.   We
 were badly hit by viruses from time to time under late OS 6 ( I
 think early 7), as you can imagine - loads of students all runnign
 their OS off floppies that they swapped more often than bedmates. . .
 weekly scans with disinfectant fixed it.
 
 Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of
 years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was pretty
 good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your system and
 only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a certain day
 of a certain month.
 
 Since then I've seen nothing.(Now on 9.1) I have a copy of Virex
 antivirus program  (not norton, thank god) but not actually active
 and only ever run it about twice a year when I'm feeling paranoid!

They only virus I've ever seen on any of my macs is the Beeping virus.
That's hardly malicious, just annoying, and very easy to get rid of.


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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Jason
the closest thing I ever had to a virus was putting on the thing that  
makes the computer get happy when you plug in the power cord, i did  
it to my wife's powerbook once...




They only virus I've ever seen on any of my macs is the Beeping virus.
That's hardly malicious, just annoying, and very easy to get rid of.



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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Fluxstringer
Yep, I've done mac support since 1989, starting at  college.   We 
were badly hit by viruses from time to time under late OS 6 ( I 
think early 7), as you can imagine - loads of students all runnign 
their OS off floppies that they swapped more often than bedmates. . 
. weekly scans with disinfectant fixed it.


Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of 
years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was pretty 
good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your system and 
only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a certain day 
of a certain month.


Since then I've seen nothing.(Now on 9.1) I have a copy of Virex 
antivirus program  (not norton, thank god) but not actually active 
and only ever run it about twice a year when I'm feeling paranoid!





Ben, were you on vacation last week?
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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Fluxstringer

on 7/2/05 5:44 PM, The Real Seed Catalogue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yep, I've done mac support since 1989, starting at  college.   We
 were badly hit by viruses from time to time under late OS 6 ( I
 think early 7), as you can imagine - loads of students all runnign
 their OS off floppies that they swapped more often than bedmates. . .
 weekly scans with disinfectant fixed it.

 Since then, I've been hit twice more.  Once was only a couple of
 years ago, I think on 8.5 (or was it still 7.5.5? - which was pretty
 good really) . This was an evil ***er that lurked in your system and
 only trashed the HD if you booted at a certain time of a certain day
 of a certain month.

 Since then I've seen nothing.(Now on 9.1) I have a copy of Virex
 antivirus program  (not norton, thank god) but not actually active
 and only ever run it about twice a year when I'm feeling paranoid!


They only virus I've ever seen on any of my macs is the Beeping virus.
That's hardly malicious, just annoying, and very easy to get rid of.



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Re: Best way to legally copy DVD

2005-07-03 Thread Dan K
It's not the copying that's illegal, it's circumventing copy protection 
that breaks the law. You can still (AFAIK) legally copy (for your own 
use, eg: backup) most anything which doesn't have copy protection. Hmm, 
legally speaking, I wonder if copy protection includes MacroVision?

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Re: Best way to legally copy DVD

2005-07-03 Thread ACFX44501

It's not the copying that's illegal, it's circumventing copy protection 
that breaks the law. You can still (AFAIK) legally copy (for your own 
use, eg: backup) most anything which doesn't have copy protection. Hmm, 
legally speaking, I wonder if copy protection includes MacroVision?

AFAIK, it does.

More and more, the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) [ * ] is being 
written to incorporate by reference certain proprietary standards as if 
these were Federal standards.

The Feds are giving away the candy store to the owners of the proprietary 
software, without ever requiring the NIST (National Institute of 
Standards and Technology) [ ** ] to do a sanity check on such software.

In particular, I believe that CFR Part which refers to DCMA 
specifically states that Macrovision-encrypted data may not be altered to 
remove the Macrovision encryption.

Hence, the rapid emergence of the usual Macrovision circumvention, the 
analog loophole, which I will not describe here for fear of persecution 
;-) .

I'm sure some already own DVD drives which are all-Region. I know I do. 
Came that way from Apple Computer as part of my WS-II/300. Later DVD 
drives which were provided with the very same computer were single-Region.

Also, some DVD players may be made all-Region by simple manipulation of 
the remote control.

This, even though the those players have affixed to their cases the 
Region 1 sticker, meaning the player is purportedly compatible ONLY 
with Region 1 DVDs.

Finally, some DVD players may be made to output a Macrovision-free data 
stream.

The precise techniques vary with the player, but these usually involve 
manipulation of the remote control, and alteration of the VIDEO menu of 
the player. Sometimes a hidden menu is involved.

Some of the best DVD players are using a single-chip solution (plus a 
single FLASH chip and a single RAM chip) from a domestic source, which 
accomplishes all DVD player operations, including DVD drive control and 
data stream decoding.

This chip has supposedly been blessed by the usual suspect 
intellectual property owners, hence its wide use in DVD players which 
feature progressive scan.

Region and Macrovision hacks are well-known for players which use this 
chip.

Lastly, some DVDs are being authored by intentionally including flawed 
sectors in order to foil one-to-one duplication, which should otherwise 
be completely legal, as this does NOT remove Macrovision encryption. A 
defective sector cannot be duplicated, right?

But, one of the best known tools is capable of BOTH correcting those 
defective sectors, AND removing Macrovision encryption.

Time for Hollywierd to develop a new business model!

[ * ] http://www.gpoaccess.gov/cfr/index.html

[ ** ] http://www.nist.gov/


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Re: PB 160

2005-07-03 Thread victoria duggan


On 2 Jul 2005, at 15:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

Recently I acquired a 2nd Mac, a PB 160.   It's in great physical   
shape but

it has it's quirks.
It boots up and I get a blank screen with a working mouse pointer,  
after
several minutes it will ask for a floppy. If I insert a OS startup  
disk, I'll
get the happy Mac icon, a few  musical notes and then nothing. One  
time it
booted to what looks like 6.0.x.   Also is it suppose to take that   
long for the
little Mac  to respond?   The harddrive does  spin up and doesn't  
sound sick.

Are there certain keys to press at startup to get different  options?



Do you have an external scsi cdrom ? if so hook it up to the pb and  
start from that, you should be able to get all the system specs when  
booted to a cd so see if it has enough to put a bare system 7 on  
there. Depending on how big the hdd and memory is , (also what you  
want it for) i would go for claris works. or just word for writing.


It sounds like the hdd is dying so i would say that is the first  
thing to check once it is booted.



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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Geoffrey Davis
the closest thing I ever had to a virus was putting on the thing 
that makes the computer get happy when you plug in the power cord, i 
did it to my wife's powerbook once...


As I recall, there wee a bunch of novelty inits one dropped in the 
extensions folder that did amusing things; unable to control mouse, 
started scanning like an old BW TV (complete with snow), beeping, 
burping, brought up custom screens telling you your HD was deleting 
(complete with progress bar...)
The only real virus that's ever cropped up in my time working with 
Macs has been through Microsoft Word documents. Some bright spark 
decided to infect the macros. Most annoying, but, like the other 
stuff easily fixed.


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Re: Best way to legally copy DVD

2005-07-03 Thread PETE


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 It's not the copying that's illegal, it's
 circumventing copy protection 
 that breaks the law. You can still (AFAIK) legally
 copy (for your own 
 use, eg: backup) most anything which doesn't have
 copy protection. Hmm, 
 legally speaking, I wonder if copy protection
 includes MacroVision?
 
 AFAIK, it does.
 
 More and more, the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations)
 [ * ] is being 
 written to incorporate by reference certain
 proprietary standards as if 
 these were Federal standards.
 
 The Feds are giving away the candy store to the
 owners of the proprietary 
 software, without ever requiring the NIST (National
 Institute of 
 Standards and Technology) [ ** ] to do a sanity
 check on such software.
 





 But, one of the best known tools is capable of BOTH
 correcting those 
 defective sectors, AND removing Macrovision
 encryption.
 
 Time for Hollywierd to develop a new business model!
 
 [ * ] http://www.gpoaccess.gov/cfr/index.html
 
 [ ** ] http://www.nist.gov/
Who remembers when hollywood condemned the vcr and
urged Congress to burn it. They are using the same
arguments now and it seems to be working this time.
What has changed?
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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Fluxstringer


With regard to my  thread last week  OS 9 Security  ? , which this 
thread seems to be a response to, out of posts to this list and the 
PCI list
representing 1200 users NOT A SINGLE CASE OF OS 9 virus, Trojan Horse 
or Worm was reported.


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Re: Best way to legally copy DVD

2005-07-03 Thread Brian Mahoney

PETE wrote:




[ ** ] http://www.nist.gov/
   


Who remembers when hollywood condemned the vcr and
urged Congress to burn it. They are using the same
arguments now and it seems to be working this time.
What has changed?
Pete.



 
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What has changed? I'd answer that but this would instantly evolve into a 
more political discussion than it already is. Can we get back to PBs? 
The best information source for this whole discussion is probably 
afterdawn.com. Lots of downloads too.


BM

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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Terry Holtrey
There were some worms that came out about the time Apple started the 
Snail/Intel commercials. They just slowed the Macs down using the 
auto-start feature of Quicktime and were pretty easy to disable and 
remove. It hit about a dozen of my client's machines and started after 
unsolicited restarts.



On Jul 3, 2005, at 7:32 PM, Geoffrey Davis wrote:

the closest thing I ever had to a virus was putting on the thing that 
makes the computer get happy when you plug in the power cord, i did 
it to my wife's powerbook once...


As I recall, there wee a bunch of novelty inits one dropped in the 
extensions folder that did amusing things; unable to control mouse, 
started scanning like an old BW TV (complete with snow), beeping, 
burping, brought up custom screens telling you your HD was deleting 
(complete with progress bar...)
The only real virus that's ever cropped up in my time working with 
Macs has been through Microsoft Word documents. Some bright spark 
decided to infect the macros. Most annoying, but, like the other stuff 
easily fixed.


gwd
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Re: I've seen FOUR Mac viruses.

2005-07-03 Thread Fluxstringer
There were some worms that came out about the time Apple started the 
Snail/Intel commercials. They just slowed the Macs down using the 
auto-start feature of Quicktime and were pretty easy to disable and 
remove. It hit about a dozen of my client's machines and started 
after unsolicited restarts.





Did it ever effect OS 9 or later ?

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