Re: Which version of OS X?

2005-12-15 Thread VICTORIA.DUGGAN

I Have to agree with drew on that one.
10.3 seems to start faster and run a-lot better on a g3 powerbook and  
the interface seems more easy on the eye that 10.2.
But being a pre G3 list i would say, What's the specs of the 603 you  
are trying to load it on. (this really does matter)
 I did get 10.1 to run on a 3400c with maxed out ram and 10gb hdd  
but some of the ports did not work and also the book was so slow that  
it hung most of the time . My first impression of it though was (hey  
great I done it! ) (what's next?) moved on to try Linux still doing  
that.



vicki
On Dec 15, 2005, at 6:23 AM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:

I know that with each release of OS X, Apple has made the  
operating system faster and more efficient. But at the same time  
they have been making it more resource-intensive by adding new  
features everytime.


Which OS (presumably somewhere between 10.2 and 10.3) offers a  
better speed?


-John


Of those two, the only one that will run on a PowerBook on topic  
for this list is 10.2.


10.3 still requires a G3 even with XPF, AFAIK.

That said, I don't really notice a speed difference between 10.2  
and 10.3 on my 266 MHz Wallstreet (barely upgraded from the 233 I  
mentioned before).  I ended up with 10.3 because it offered a few  
more features (and I hate the pinstripes in 10.0 - 10.2).


Peace,
Drew
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Used PowerBook 165 - some questions

2005-12-15 Thread Váradi Zsolt Gyula
Greetings,

I have recently bought a used PowerBook 165 laptop. It's in fairly good 
condition, but I'm having some issues with it.

For one, the system clock runs too fast. I've tried googling around for it, but 
couldn't find anything useful. I've also updated the preinstalled System 7.5 to 
7.5.5, but it hasn't changed...
Has anyone met this problem? If so, can it be fixed?

Two, the battery is toast. At the first time, it could supply enough power for 
3 seconds (I've only tried it out), but now the laptop doesn't even power up if 
the battery is connected. For a temporary solution (mostly aesthetic), I've put 
some tape on the battery's connectors and plugged it back to its place. I've 
found a battery reconditioning app somewhere, but I can't do much about it 
without the battery :S
What's going on here? What should I do with it?

Three, the file transfer. I've successfully written Mac images to floppy (I've 
done a 7.5.5 upgrade), but I can't transfer files to a Mac formatted floppy. 
I've tried Gemxplorer (freezes on my XP computers) and TransMac (throws 
errors). What do you use?

Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac-PC Transfer 
program should be included in the system. So should something for extracting 
.sit archives. I've dug through the filesystem, but couldn't find anything 
similar. Are they really included in the OS? I mean, would I get these stuff if 
I reinstalled OS 7.5 with the images found on the Internet?

And just one last question. Last Sunday, out of nowhere, for a moment the 
laptop didn't boot, but showed me a Sad Mac icon with the F3 Illegal 
instruction error, but after some reboots, it went away. I guess it's not 
normal, so I've ran some checks on the HDD, but both Disk First Aid and HD SC 
Setup showed no errors. What else can go wrong in a Mac?

Thank you for your time and help,
Zsolt

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Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions

2005-12-15 Thread VICTORIA.DUGGAN
 Hi Feeling very generous send me your address off list and i will  
send you a set of 7.1 and 7.5 floppys also a copy of 7.5 on cd if you  
have an external cd.


vicki
On Dec 15, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Váradi Zsolt Gyula wrote:


Greetings,

I have recently bought a used PowerBook 165 laptop. It's in fairly  
good condition, but I'm having some issues with it.


For one, the system clock runs too fast. I've tried googling around  
for it, but couldn't find anything useful. I've also updated the  
preinstalled System 7.5 to 7.5.5, but it hasn't changed...

Has anyone met this problem? If so, can it be fixed?

Two, the battery is toast. At the first time, it could supply  
enough power for 3 seconds (I've only tried it out), but now the  
laptop doesn't even power up if the battery is connected. For a  
temporary solution (mostly aesthetic), I've put some tape on the  
battery's connectors and plugged it back to its place. I've found a  
battery reconditioning app somewhere, but I can't do much about it  
without the battery :S

What's going on here? What should I do with it?

Three, the file transfer. I've successfully written Mac images to  
floppy (I've done a 7.5.5 upgrade), but I can't transfer files to a  
Mac formatted floppy. I've tried Gemxplorer (freezes on my XP  
computers) and TransMac (throws errors). What do you use?


Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac-PC  
Transfer program should be included in the system. So should  
something for extracting .sit archives. I've dug through the  
filesystem, but couldn't find anything similar. Are they really  
included in the OS? I mean, would I get these stuff if I  
reinstalled OS 7.5 with the images found on the Internet?


And just one last question. Last Sunday, out of nowhere, for a  
moment the laptop didn't boot, but showed me a Sad Mac icon with  
the F3 Illegal instruction error, but after some reboots, it went  
away. I guess it's not normal, so I've ran some checks on the HDD,  
but both Disk First Aid and HD SC Setup showed no errors. What else  
can go wrong in a Mac?


Thank you for your time and help,
Zsolt



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Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions

2005-12-15 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Dec 15, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Váradi Zsolt Gyula wrote:



Two, the battery is toast. At the first time, it could supply  
enough power for 3 seconds (I've only tried it out), but now the  
laptop doesn't even power up if the battery is connected. For a  
temporary solution (mostly aesthetic), I've put some tape on the  
battery's connectors and plugged it back to its place. I've found a  
battery reconditioning app somewhere, but I can't do much about it  
without the battery :S

What's going on here? What should I do with it?


Get a new battery, or given the cost of a new battery versus what the  
thing's worth, live without it.




Three, the file transfer. I've successfully written Mac images to  
floppy (I've done a 7.5.5 upgrade), but I can't transfer files to a  
Mac formatted floppy. I've tried Gemxplorer (freezes on my XP  
computers) and TransMac (throws errors). What do you use?




MacDrive always worked well from me. http://www.mediafour.com/  
However, it only works with 1.44 MB disks, no PC reads 800K disks.


Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac-PC  
Transfer program should be included in the system. So should  
something for extracting .sit archives. I've dug through the  
filesystem, but couldn't find anything similar. Are they really  
included in the OS? I mean, would I get these stuff if I  
reinstalled OS 7.5 with the images found on the Internet?


For .Sit files you need Stuffit Expander which came with the CD but  
not the floppy system images. The transfer program was also an  
optional install on the system CD, but is not on the floppies, iirc.




And just one last question. Last Sunday, out of nowhere, for a  
moment the laptop didn't boot, but showed me a Sad Mac icon with  
the F3 Illegal instruction error, but after some reboots, it went  
away. I guess it's not normal, so I've ran some checks on the HDD,  
but both Disk First Aid and HD SC Setup showed no errors. What else  
can go wrong in a Mac?


Memory, motherboard issues, system corruption on disk.

Unfortunately, you have a pretty common chicken/egg problem. Ideally  
you need an external CD-rom drive or Zip drive.


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Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions

2005-12-15 Thread Váradi Zsolt Gyula
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:25:58 -0700
Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MacDrive always worked well from me. http://www.mediafour.com/  
 However, it only works with 1.44 MB disks, no PC reads 800K disks.

Thanks, I haven't seen this one before. I'll try it out this weekend.

 For .Sit files you need Stuffit Expander which came with the CD but  
 not the floppy system images. The transfer program was also an  
 optional install on the system CD, but is not on the floppies, iirc.

Fortunately I've found a version of this Stuffit Expander that I can transfer 
and install on my Mac (in theory) here:

http://mes.emuunlim.com/software/applications/disk_tools.htm

 Unfortunately, you have a pretty common chicken/egg problem. Ideally  
 you need an external CD-rom drive or Zip drive.

Yeah.. I'm searching for these all the time, but they seem to be pretty hard to 
catch.

Zsolt

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Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions

2005-12-15 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Dec 15, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Váradi Zsolt Gyula wrote:


On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:25:58 -0700
Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


MacDrive always worked well from me. http://www.mediafour.com/
However, it only works with 1.44 MB disks, no PC reads 800K disks.


Thanks, I haven't seen this one before. I'll try it out this weekend.


For .Sit files you need Stuffit Expander which came with the CD but
not the floppy system images. The transfer program was also an
optional install on the system CD, but is not on the floppies, iirc.


Fortunately I've found a version of this Stuffit Expander that I  
can transfer and install on my Mac (in theory) here:


http://mes.emuunlim.com/software/applications/disk_tools.htm


Unfortunately, you have a pretty common chicken/egg problem. Ideally
you need an external CD-rom drive or Zip drive.


Yeah.. I'm searching for these all the time, but they seem to be  
pretty hard to catch.


Try the LEM Swaplist...I think I saw some stuff there like that  
today, pretty cheap.


http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html

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Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions

2005-12-15 Thread josephc22

On Dec 15, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Zsolt Gyula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac-PC  
Transfer program should be included in the system.


Hi Zsolt,

Look for a Control Panel called PC Exchange. It's included with  
7.5, but if it wasn't originally on your Powerbook, I'm not sure if  
the 7.5.5 upgrade would have added it.


Good luck!

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Re: My PowerBook won't boot!

2005-12-15 Thread darm0k

At 12:18 PM -0600 12/13/2005, John Perkins Jr. wrote:

My PowerBook has System 7.5.5 installed. Yesterday I used the 7.5.3
custom uninstall to remove Apple CD Audio Player.


Stop that.  Just drag components out of the System Folder.  No need 
to use uninstallers.



exit the installer when it was done, and
it sat for a few minutes, and then I got a system error (type 25,
whatever that is). I clicked restart, and then the computer restarted.
Now whenever I start it up I get the happy Mac for less than a second,
the screen blinks, and then I get the disk with an ? on it. Why does
it find System Software at first and then it can't?


Boot blocks are corrupted.

Zap the PRAM.  (hold down cmd-opt-P-R while booting).

Then re-bless the System Folder.  (open the folder by double-clicking 
on it whlie holding down the option key.  then immediately close it).


Then reselect the boot drive from the control panel.

- Dan.

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