Re: Which version of OS X?
I Have to agree with drew on that one. 10.3 seems to start faster and run a-lot better on a g3 powerbook and the interface seems more easy on the eye that 10.2. But being a pre G3 list i would say, What's the specs of the 603 you are trying to load it on. (this really does matter) I did get 10.1 to run on a 3400c with maxed out ram and 10gb hdd but some of the ports did not work and also the book was so slow that it hung most of the time . My first impression of it though was (hey great I done it! ) (what's next?) moved on to try Linux still doing that. vicki On Dec 15, 2005, at 6:23 AM, Andrew Kershaw wrote: I know that with each release of OS X, Apple has made the operating system faster and more efficient. But at the same time they have been making it more resource-intensive by adding new features everytime. Which OS (presumably somewhere between 10.2 and 10.3) offers a better speed? -John Of those two, the only one that will run on a PowerBook on topic for this list is 10.2. 10.3 still requires a G3 even with XPF, AFAIK. That said, I don't really notice a speed difference between 10.2 and 10.3 on my 266 MHz Wallstreet (barely upgraded from the 233 I mentioned before). I ended up with 10.3 because it offered a few more features (and I hate the pinstripes in 10.0 - 10.2). Peace, Drew -- -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Used PowerBook 165 - some questions
Greetings, I have recently bought a used PowerBook 165 laptop. It's in fairly good condition, but I'm having some issues with it. For one, the system clock runs too fast. I've tried googling around for it, but couldn't find anything useful. I've also updated the preinstalled System 7.5 to 7.5.5, but it hasn't changed... Has anyone met this problem? If so, can it be fixed? Two, the battery is toast. At the first time, it could supply enough power for 3 seconds (I've only tried it out), but now the laptop doesn't even power up if the battery is connected. For a temporary solution (mostly aesthetic), I've put some tape on the battery's connectors and plugged it back to its place. I've found a battery reconditioning app somewhere, but I can't do much about it without the battery :S What's going on here? What should I do with it? Three, the file transfer. I've successfully written Mac images to floppy (I've done a 7.5.5 upgrade), but I can't transfer files to a Mac formatted floppy. I've tried Gemxplorer (freezes on my XP computers) and TransMac (throws errors). What do you use? Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac-PC Transfer program should be included in the system. So should something for extracting .sit archives. I've dug through the filesystem, but couldn't find anything similar. Are they really included in the OS? I mean, would I get these stuff if I reinstalled OS 7.5 with the images found on the Internet? And just one last question. Last Sunday, out of nowhere, for a moment the laptop didn't boot, but showed me a Sad Mac icon with the F3 Illegal instruction error, but after some reboots, it went away. I guess it's not normal, so I've ran some checks on the HDD, but both Disk First Aid and HD SC Setup showed no errors. What else can go wrong in a Mac? Thank you for your time and help, Zsolt -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions
Hi Feeling very generous send me your address off list and i will send you a set of 7.1 and 7.5 floppys also a copy of 7.5 on cd if you have an external cd. vicki On Dec 15, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Váradi Zsolt Gyula wrote: Greetings, I have recently bought a used PowerBook 165 laptop. It's in fairly good condition, but I'm having some issues with it. For one, the system clock runs too fast. I've tried googling around for it, but couldn't find anything useful. I've also updated the preinstalled System 7.5 to 7.5.5, but it hasn't changed... Has anyone met this problem? If so, can it be fixed? Two, the battery is toast. At the first time, it could supply enough power for 3 seconds (I've only tried it out), but now the laptop doesn't even power up if the battery is connected. For a temporary solution (mostly aesthetic), I've put some tape on the battery's connectors and plugged it back to its place. I've found a battery reconditioning app somewhere, but I can't do much about it without the battery :S What's going on here? What should I do with it? Three, the file transfer. I've successfully written Mac images to floppy (I've done a 7.5.5 upgrade), but I can't transfer files to a Mac formatted floppy. I've tried Gemxplorer (freezes on my XP computers) and TransMac (throws errors). What do you use? Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac-PC Transfer program should be included in the system. So should something for extracting .sit archives. I've dug through the filesystem, but couldn't find anything similar. Are they really included in the OS? I mean, would I get these stuff if I reinstalled OS 7.5 with the images found on the Internet? And just one last question. Last Sunday, out of nowhere, for a moment the laptop didn't boot, but showed me a Sad Mac icon with the F3 Illegal instruction error, but after some reboots, it went away. I guess it's not normal, so I've ran some checks on the HDD, but both Disk First Aid and HD SC Setup showed no errors. What else can go wrong in a Mac? Thank you for your time and help, Zsolt -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions
On Dec 15, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Váradi Zsolt Gyula wrote: Two, the battery is toast. At the first time, it could supply enough power for 3 seconds (I've only tried it out), but now the laptop doesn't even power up if the battery is connected. For a temporary solution (mostly aesthetic), I've put some tape on the battery's connectors and plugged it back to its place. I've found a battery reconditioning app somewhere, but I can't do much about it without the battery :S What's going on here? What should I do with it? Get a new battery, or given the cost of a new battery versus what the thing's worth, live without it. Three, the file transfer. I've successfully written Mac images to floppy (I've done a 7.5.5 upgrade), but I can't transfer files to a Mac formatted floppy. I've tried Gemxplorer (freezes on my XP computers) and TransMac (throws errors). What do you use? MacDrive always worked well from me. http://www.mediafour.com/ However, it only works with 1.44 MB disks, no PC reads 800K disks. Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac-PC Transfer program should be included in the system. So should something for extracting .sit archives. I've dug through the filesystem, but couldn't find anything similar. Are they really included in the OS? I mean, would I get these stuff if I reinstalled OS 7.5 with the images found on the Internet? For .Sit files you need Stuffit Expander which came with the CD but not the floppy system images. The transfer program was also an optional install on the system CD, but is not on the floppies, iirc. And just one last question. Last Sunday, out of nowhere, for a moment the laptop didn't boot, but showed me a Sad Mac icon with the F3 Illegal instruction error, but after some reboots, it went away. I guess it's not normal, so I've ran some checks on the HDD, but both Disk First Aid and HD SC Setup showed no errors. What else can go wrong in a Mac? Memory, motherboard issues, system corruption on disk. Unfortunately, you have a pretty common chicken/egg problem. Ideally you need an external CD-rom drive or Zip drive. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:25:58 -0700 Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MacDrive always worked well from me. http://www.mediafour.com/ However, it only works with 1.44 MB disks, no PC reads 800K disks. Thanks, I haven't seen this one before. I'll try it out this weekend. For .Sit files you need Stuffit Expander which came with the CD but not the floppy system images. The transfer program was also an optional install on the system CD, but is not on the floppies, iirc. Fortunately I've found a version of this Stuffit Expander that I can transfer and install on my Mac (in theory) here: http://mes.emuunlim.com/software/applications/disk_tools.htm Unfortunately, you have a pretty common chicken/egg problem. Ideally you need an external CD-rom drive or Zip drive. Yeah.. I'm searching for these all the time, but they seem to be pretty hard to catch. Zsolt -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions
On Dec 15, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Váradi Zsolt Gyula wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:25:58 -0700 Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MacDrive always worked well from me. http://www.mediafour.com/ However, it only works with 1.44 MB disks, no PC reads 800K disks. Thanks, I haven't seen this one before. I'll try it out this weekend. For .Sit files you need Stuffit Expander which came with the CD but not the floppy system images. The transfer program was also an optional install on the system CD, but is not on the floppies, iirc. Fortunately I've found a version of this Stuffit Expander that I can transfer and install on my Mac (in theory) here: http://mes.emuunlim.com/software/applications/disk_tools.htm Unfortunately, you have a pretty common chicken/egg problem. Ideally you need an external CD-rom drive or Zip drive. Yeah.. I'm searching for these all the time, but they seem to be pretty hard to catch. Try the LEM Swaplist...I think I saw some stuff there like that today, pretty cheap. http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Used PowerBook 165 - some questions
On Dec 15, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Zsolt Gyula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I've read somewhere that starting from OS 7.x, a Mac-PC Transfer program should be included in the system. Hi Zsolt, Look for a Control Panel called PC Exchange. It's included with 7.5, but if it wasn't originally on your Powerbook, I'm not sure if the 7.5.5 upgrade would have added it. Good luck! -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: My PowerBook won't boot!
At 12:18 PM -0600 12/13/2005, John Perkins Jr. wrote: My PowerBook has System 7.5.5 installed. Yesterday I used the 7.5.3 custom uninstall to remove Apple CD Audio Player. Stop that. Just drag components out of the System Folder. No need to use uninstallers. exit the installer when it was done, and it sat for a few minutes, and then I got a system error (type 25, whatever that is). I clicked restart, and then the computer restarted. Now whenever I start it up I get the happy Mac for less than a second, the screen blinks, and then I get the disk with an ? on it. Why does it find System Software at first and then it can't? Boot blocks are corrupted. Zap the PRAM. (hold down cmd-opt-P-R while booting). Then re-bless the System Folder. (open the folder by double-clicking on it whlie holding down the option key. then immediately close it). Then reselect the boot drive from the control panel. - Dan. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com