Re: XPostFacto

[Daniel Palka]

Kangas and 3400s always display thousands of colors - what are you  
talking about?

On Apr 24, 2005, at 2:12 AM, pasha wrote:
OK... I have a bit of an oddity going on here... I have a Kanga, a  
#1 G3 Powerbook looking like the 3400.   I know that it will only  
display 256 colors.  I know that it will not support the PCMCIA  
cards.  LAST NIGHT I installed 10.2 on there.  the screen in  
thousands of colors, not 256.  AND the PCMCIA card cage RECOGNIZED  
(according to MacOS X) there was a Lucent WaveLan card in there.

a dumb thing then happened.. then I told the machine to update to  
10.2.8 and stuff.. then the PCMCIA card failed to work.  I  
attempting to re-install it now...

I just wanted to know if anyone out there had a similar experience  
with these odd macs?

-p
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Re: 2300c Question

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There is no way you guys can possibly tell me that OS 9.1 *feels* 
faster than OS 8.1.  Which is the version I was rooting for.  Whilst 
some actual operations are probably faster in 9.1 because of the more 
PowerPC optimization, 8.1 feels wayyy faster.  7.6.1 feels 
wayyy faster than that.  
Especially true for those two with Speed Doubler 8 installed.  I don't 
see what anybody could possibly be doing with a Duo 2300c that would 
require OS 8.5 or up.  Anything that "requires" those versions is too 
intense for a Duo in the first place in my opinion.  What are you 
trying to run Photoshop 7?  Final Cut Pro 1.2.5?

OS 9 takes ten years to boot, and finder redraws (menus, windows, 
icons) are definetely noticeably slower.  For writing a document in 
Word 98, OS 9 is overkill.

On Mar 16, 2005, at 6:09 AM, michel wrote:
2300c 9.1 or 8.5.
You guys got there an interesting discussion. As I happen to own two of
these machines and on both of them a different OS (and I let you guess 
which
ones). I was curious to see what are the differences as I far as I can 
see.
The only thing I must admit is the fact that the 9.1 machine has 48 mb 
of
ram and a 10 gig 4200 rpm HD wheras the 8.5 machine must do with only 
28 mb
ram the standard harddisk of 750 mb.
There is no doubt for me that the 9.1 is much faster.(but I remember 
when
not having 48mb it was much slower. When opening system profiler on 
both
machines at the same time, 9.1 is twice as fast as 8.5.
Everything(opening windows,scrolling etc.) looks more crispy and 
faster on
the 9.1. And sure it is the ram and hd also,
but Dan suggestion was to configure like my machine. And then the 
result is
there.
I know you critics will say , yes but you have more ram.  True , but 
the 9.1
machine has also an 8.5 sytem on another partition, So I rebooted 9.1 
into
8.5.
to see what happened.
And frankly I must say I don¹t see much difference between 9.1 and 8.6 
on
the same machine. If anybody knows a good bench  I am willing to do 
some
more tests.
As for my opinion, if one upgrades to the maximum ram and a faster 
disk ,9.1
is really workable, unless you want to run heavy photoshop etc. The 
avantage
of 9.1 is the more advanced system, and applications that demand a 
minimum
of 9.1 can run then.
Michel
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Re: 2300c Question

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On Mar 13, 2005, at 11:23 PM, Dan K wrote:
Not necessarily slow, OS 9.1 can be quite satisfactorily speedy on a
2300C, caveated (!) :-) by two things:
In most situations, I would say "everybody has their own opinion!"  But 
in this case I must say, the above is an entirely false statement.  
Unless you sit around running SimpleText all day, or judge speedy-ness 
by opening and closing Finder windows and seeing how fast the Control 
Panels sub menu appears, I cannot possibly see how OS 9 can be called 
anything close to "speedy" on a PowerBook Duo.  In fact, even when 
doing THOSE things!

1) you must have _real_ 56MB ram (2300's maximum)
and!
B) you gotta replace the puke-slow original HD with a modern, fast 
drive
(say 8 or 10 GBs at least.)

With those two conditions met you _will_ be satisfied with OS 9.1. If 
you
can't do either, then go with the other recommendations.
Blasphemy!  Don't listen to the lies
dan k (once again, couldn't resist being an OS9-pushin' troll!)

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Re: 2300c Question

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Oh my goodness I highly highly highly dis-recommend installing OS 9.1 
on a Duo 2300c.  At most install 8.6.  I would probably stick to 8.1.  
OS 9 offers little feature benefits to anybody running a Duo to make up 
for the massive extreme horrendous slow down, hogging of hard drive 
space, and 24mb of RAM (with Virtual Memory turned on - even more 
slowness!) that it takes up.  And don't even think about using the 
modem with OS 9 - the internal modem on Duos slows the machine down by 
some ridiculous number like 50%.  That's barely acceptable with System 
7, much less OS 9.

You have to get yourself out of the "newer is always better" syndrome - 
for it is very untrue.  Especially on a Duo 2300.  OS 9.1 yikes!

Just a word of warning.  Either way you have to get an external 
CD-ROM, and for that you need either a dock or the crazy Duo - SCSI 
microdock.  Or a minidock.

On Mar 13, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Mark Templeton wrote:
I am trying to reconstruct a perfect duo system around a 2300c. I want 
to install System 9.1 but do not have a clue how to do a fresh install 
since the OS is on CD. Could someone offer a recommendation?

I am a newbie to this list so I apologize if this is not an 
appropriate question.

Thank you,
Mark

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Re: Two Quick Questions

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On Mar 6, 2005, at 11:02 PM, Ted Lovejoy wrote:
1. What is the proper sound format for system sounds in 9.1?
The format is officially called "System 7 Sound"
2. Anyone know of a good (and hopefully freeware) app to convert .wav
to .the answer in 1 above?
Yes.  Quicktime pro is good.  Not free though.  Heres a ginormous list 
of sound programs (many free) that you may try:

http://www.partnersinrhyme.com/mac/convert.html
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Re: 1400 batteries?

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Well you just non-optioned the best two places to get them...
On Mar 4, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Angus Chalmers wrote:
Where could I get cheap batteries for 1400's apart from eBay and the 
LEM
swap list(whatever that is)? Also, what type of cells would you 
need(NiMH
green cells) to recell batteries and could you use liIon batteries?

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Re: Transfer from 9.1 (PowerPC) to New Powerbook

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oh thats easy...
turn appletalk on (both machines)
setup file sharing on the os9 machine, and file sharing for appletalk 
on the osx machine

make sure both are set to go through the lan (not like the local talk 
port if its a beige mac)

thats pretty much it
go to chooser in os 9 to connect, go to "connect to server" in osx to 
connect

On Feb 27, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Dave Foshee wrote:
I'm asking how do I set up OS X and OS 9 so that they can talk to each 
other
along the network LAN connection.

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: Transfer from 9.1 (PowerPC) to New Powerbook

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What are you asking?
On Feb 27, 2005, at 5:07 PM, Dave Foshee wrote:
Hey everybody!
Have any of you ever had to transfer from a older mac (something around
7100) running 9.1 to Powerbook running X?
I just got my mac and a new airport extreme and I think you can do it
through the LAN side of the ethernet connection but I don't think I 
have the
settings right.

Any help out there?
Thanks!
Dave

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Re: power cord?

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the answer to this question is ALWAYS ebay.com
On Feb 20, 2005, at 9:21 PM, Pasha Donnelly wrote:
so where could I get some more CHEAPLY?  There is a store in town 
nearby somewhere that has them... for $79...(plus tax)

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Re: new to list

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On Feb 8, 2005, at 2:23 AM, T. Virkkala wrote:
I gather that Windows is even a bigger bloatware clog than the classic
Mac OSes.
That was sarcasim right?
I never put Mac OS into the "bloatware" category.  Especially classic.
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Re: WANTED: PowerBooks, ANY CONDITION, prefer 1993-1997 'Books

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I have lots of 500s and two Duos that I never use.  They all kindof 
work, but most have problems (especially the 500s).

On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:30 PM, Jared Noska wrote:
Hello,
I'm fixing some old PowerBooks and need some parts machines as well as 
some good machines. I'm looking for Duo, 500 series, 1400 series, 3400 
series, Kanga.

Please contact me if you have any of those, I prefer they are in non 
working order.

Thank you very much!
Jared

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Re: 3400c 9.1 VPC 3.0

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Version 4 and up require G3s.
Windows 95 was OK on a 3400c - anything higher nearly useless.
DOS of course was excellent.
On Dec 7, 2004, at 6:54 AM, KG wrote:
I think G3 is "recommended."
In that case it will work, but will be slow. I had a copy of VPC 5 and 
tried it on my 3400, and it told me the G3 was required. I was able to 
install it, but it wouldn't run. 

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Re: 3400c 9.1 VPC 3.0

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My copy of Virtual PC 3 runs fine on my 3400c, and even my Duo 2300c 
(!!!)

I think G3 is "recommended."
I had Windows 2000 running on my 3400c but it was slow.  But it did run 
so...

On Dec 6, 2004, at 10:15 PM, KG wrote:
If it says minimum G3, don't try it. The versions of VPC that require 
a G3 won't run on anything less. 

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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

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I sure would like to know what a 190 internal CD-ROM is!
The 3400 and 3500s are quite a bit larger than the 5300.  The only 
appear to be the same in photographs.

Lets not forget that you can install Mac OS 7.5.3 using floppy disks 
(19).  And it's free to download from Apple's website.

On Dec 3, 2004, at 1:42 AM, Manfred wrote:
The cdroms from 190, 3400, 3500 should fit.
But you can install another os without a cdrom drive. Make a
boot-floppy with network access and install over the net.
Of course you will need a network and a second machine for this.
I installed my 540c and my LC this way.

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Re: Identifying a Powerbook

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Yes.  It will NOT accept an ATA 6 or higher hard drive.
You will get a sad mac icon.
On Dec 1, 2004, at 4:07 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:
Thanks for all the responses.
Seems as if the PB in ? is a Wallstreet.
I'll have to wait to get my hands on it make sure.
Any special recommendations or caveats regarding
purchasing an upgrade replacement HD: size limits, speed etc.
Thank you
Cliff

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Re: Identifying a Powerbook

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14.1TFT is the screen size.  This is a 14.1" screen PowerBook 
Wallstreet II (with cache).

TFT means active-matrix.  It's the higher quality of the two types of 
screens (the other being passive matrix).

On Dec 1, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote:
A friend's PowerBook HD died and as he is upgrading to iMac
I may "inherit" it. He says it is a G3 but doesn't know more.
Numbers on the back read: 14.1TFT/233MHz-512K/32MB/2GB HD/4MB 
video/CD/Modem.

I can make sense of everything but the 14.1TFT.
Does this number ID the PowerBook?
Thanks.
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Re: Best email and browser clents system 9.1

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Cyberdog 2 shipped with OS 8.
Another cool thing about Cyberdog is that there are NO pop ups, and 
even though it doesnt support the latest technologies, it doesnt TELL 
YOU every time it entounters a technology it cant handle (like netscape 
does) so it just ignores it.

It is also much more stable than netscape and IE.
On Nov 25, 2004, at 2:50 AM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
Nope!  I was using Cybie well into OS 9.1 days...  You just have to go 
out of your way to install OpenDoc and all the parts.

Cybie was neat.  I really liked the way it provided an Internet 
"suite" of FTP, Web, email, gopher, and Telnet along with an 
interesting bookmark manager...

I stopped using it because OpenDoc leaks memory like a sieve.  And 
there was some other reason that I can't think of right now...

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Re: Trackpad vs. Mouse (was Re: 5300c question) (long)

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What exactly IS the history of the trackpad/touchpad?
I was under the impression for the longest time that the PowerBook 500 
series was one of the first laptops anywhere that had one.

On Nov 23, 2004, at 9:39 PM, Alex Wenzel wrote:
At the beginning of the Nineties, I had one of the
*very* first trackpads on a "Triumph-Adler" 386/SX notebook (a
German-rebranded Olivetti machine).

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Re: Trackpad vs. Mouse (was Re: 5300c question)

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What I also find amusing is watching people that have never used a 
laptop before fumble with a trackpad (there are surprising amount of 
people that have never touched a laptop - mostly people who buy $200 
brand new eMachines) and they just don't get it.

People will put more than one finger on it, will hold their finger 
straight up in the air, do all sorts of crazy things.

one thing i do NOT like and never like was tappable trackpad-ing.  I 
always accidently click on something or accidently drag something 
somewhere.

On Nov 23, 2004, at 4:24 PM, Daniel Palka wrote:
I prefer the trackpad.  I also get a strange look when I do "NOT" want 
to use the mouse - even if somebody else brings a mouse with their 
laptop, and I need to use it for some reason, I got straight for the 
trackpad.

I had laptops BEFORE desktops, so I'm kindof backwards to everybody 
else.  I was trackball first, then trackpad, THEN I had a mouse.

I think its kindof silly when people bring a mouse with their laptop.  
That defies the practicality and elegance of having a laptop.

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Re: Trackpad vs. Mouse (was Re: 5300c question)

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I prefer the trackpad.  I also get a strange look when I do "NOT" want 
to use the mouse - even if somebody else brings a mouse with their 
laptop, and I need to use it for some reason, I got straight for the 
trackpad.

I had laptops BEFORE desktops, so I'm kindof backwards to everybody 
else.  I was trackball first, then trackpad, THEN I had a mouse.

I think its kindof silly when people bring a mouse with their laptop.  
That defies the practicality and elegance of having a laptop.

On Nov 23, 2004, at 1:23 PM, Yersinia wrote:
Okay, listers -- other than Bruce and I here who like our trackpads
enough not to use mice with our Powerbooks, do you prefer trackpads or
mice? Do any of you actually take your mice with you when you go out 
with
your Powerbooks?!

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Re: PowerBook Kanga RAM

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On Nov 21, 2004, at 12:38 AM, PowerBook Parts wrote:
Hi -- Have few questions about Kanga RAM.
Are 3400's RAM and Kanga RAM interchangeable?
yes
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Re: Best OS for Wallstreet 233

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I find Windows 95 to run slow on my Dell 386.  But it still doesn't 
even compare to running OSX on a PowerBook 3400c.

A more reasonable comparison is running Windows XP on a 386.
On Nov 18, 2004, at 10:21 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
You're far more tolerant than I am. A cacheless Wallstreet 233 is 
barely faster than a 3400/240, and I've run OS X on a 3400/240 and 
it's not the greatest experience in the world. It's about like 
running Windows 95 on a 386DX-40, for those of you with experience 
with the x86 world.

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Re: Best OS for Wallstreet 233(slightly reverting back to my problem)

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Go to www.powerbook3400c.com
Much detail is given there.
This is the NEW location of my famous "Hooper Hotrodding" pages.
On Nov 17, 2004, at 10:34 PM, Dennis Descoteau wrote:
If you have OS 9.2.2 running on your 3400, mind telling me how you 
accomplished it? Mine will not shut down after running any app.
Thanks, Dennis

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Re: PowerBook Duo Web Site

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On Nov 17, 2004, at 12:37 AM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
I think its MPEG4.
Yeah, that's the problem alright.
Who is your target audience?  If it's users of System 7 - OS 9, then 
you want to use either Sorenson or Cinepak instead of MPEG4.  MPEG4 is 
pretty processor intensive, and most people running those systems 
don't have the horsepower for MPEG4 (or OS X, for that matter).
Yes I will most likely re do the videos.  After all, I'll want to watch 
them on my own Duo!


If you read the legal terms page I try and attempt to calm all 
parties involved. It is linked at the bottom.
Good luck with that! ;-)
Thanks.  I'm pretty sure I'll need it.
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Re: PowerBook Duo Web Site

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On Nov 17, 2004, at 12:23 AM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
Why?  The Duo is certainly on topic for this list...
Dan:
Nice site design!
Be prepared to be slapped by Apple for copyright infringement, though. 
 Those commercials are Apple copyrighted material, and "PowerBook DUO" 
is a registered trademark, IIRC.  You probably won't get to keep that 
domain for long.
LOL.  We'll see what happens...
I got the commercials from theapplecollection.com by the way, only I 
edited them in Final Cut Pro to better suit my needs.

If you read the legal terms page I try and attempt to calm all parties 
involved. It is linked at the bottom.

I'm rather proud of my recreation of the PowerBookDUO logo.  That was 
done by me eyeballing the end of the commercials.

What compressor did you use for the commercials?  They don't play 
right on both of the Macs I've tried it on so far.  I've got QT 5 on 
one and QT 6 on the other...
I think you need the latest version of QT6 to play them right.  I 
exprted them in Final Cut Pro using quicktime conversion for DSL/Cable 
Medium Quality.  I think its MPEG4.

It plays good on both my G4s running OSX so I'm assuming a simple 
update to QT6 will fix that, although I'm not so sure about Classic.

Peace,
Drew

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Re: PowerBook Duo Web Site

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I could not locate the DuoList on LEM anymore.  I know i used to be 
part of it.

On Nov 16, 2004, at 11:18 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:
We should probably move this thread to the [Duo2400] List.  There used 
to be a JB's Duo website, also quite informative, which I cannot 
locate at the moment.  It might have been closed.  Some years back a 
Duo enthusiast from South Carolina compiled a CD full of Duo 
information, that he sold on eBay for a while.  When I offered to send 
him Apple Service Manuals for all Duo models in pdf files to complete 
his collection, he sent me his CD in return.  I still have it 
somewhere.

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Re: PowerBook Duo Web Site

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By the way does anybody know how I may get in contact with Mr. Kim 
Brennan?  I'm sure he'd like to help me.  Contact me off list.

On Nov 16, 2004, at 8:54 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:
Your search missed this well-known PowerBook Duo resource:


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Re: PowerBook Duo Web Site

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Well actually, I did find that.  I just thought it a little 
unprofessional and rather ugly, and unsuited to my tastes is all.  
Respect to whoever made that site though, it is very informative.

But it contains broken links, weird colors and lots of web design no-no 
stuff :)

And no interesting graphics!
Thanks for pointing that out though!
On Nov 16, 2004, at 8:54 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:
Your search missed this well-known PowerBook Duo resource:


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PowerBook Duo Web Site

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I'm working on a web site devoted to the PowerBook Duo, after having 
failed to find any such thing.

It is conveniently located at http://www.powerbookduo.com/ which is 
amazing that URL was available.

A fully functional public forum as well as a television commercial 
gallery are already up.  More to come!

Give me your thoughts / ideas / input / comments about anything.  I 
really want to eventually make this the de-facto Duo resource on the 
internet.

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Re: 3400 won't shut down with 9.2.2

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My thought is that lots of problems of similar annoying-ness to this 
one will appear since you installed an unsupported operating system 
onto your 3400c.  Go back to 9.1.

:)
On Nov 11, 2004, at 3:32 PM, Dennis Descoteau wrote:
Hi, just got his PB and the above problem appears. I searched the 
archives but did not see any related items. The only troubleshooting I 
did was to notice that if I only booted to the desktop it would 
shutdown from the 'special' menu. By not shutting down I mean that it 
freezes at the desktop, the cursor moves but the dropdowns don't work. 
If I force quit and re-boot to the desktop, I can shut down. Any 
thoughts on this? Thanks, Dennis

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Re: Powerbook 5300 Bruce Johnson

[Daniel Palka]

You need minimum Mac OS 7.5.2 with OpenTransport and the drivers linked 
below for your convenience:

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/4835&mode=info
Download that and install, and bingo you have wireless.
On Nov 9, 2004, at 12:01 AM, Todd Naber wrote:
A list member Bruce Johnson once told me that my 5300C could surf the 
net
with a Orinoco Gold Wireless Card. I have the card but don't know what 
else
I need (like RAM and operating system). Bruce, could you help me again?

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Re: seeking laptop SCSI drives

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1400s are IDE arent they?
On Nov 8, 2004, at 11:34 PM, Matt White wrote:
Hi,
I have a 750mb drive I pulled from my 1400 if your interested.
Matt

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Re: 1400 capabilities

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Its very simple if you have a Lucent WaveLAN compatible card.
On Nov 8, 2004, at 7:07 AM, Lauren Ware wrote:
I
could not figure how to do wireless with 7.5.5, which runs much faster
on my machine.

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