Any "Old World" workaround to get on secured wireless network?

[Gary F. Daught]

Greetings. I probably should wait to ask this until I get more  
specific information. But my school is thinking about a campus-wide  
wireless network. The IT department is currently testing the concept  
in the library (my domain), where up to now we've had a secured wired  
network for the resident computers and an unsecured wireless network  
for students coming in with their laptops. It's a Windows XP Pro/PC  
world here, and they're wanting to secure the wireless network, too.


Up to now I could bring in my PB2400c (running OS 8.6), pop in my  
TrueMobile card with an ORiNOCO driver, and connect no problem. Not  
so now! They are requiring a certificate file to be loaded on our  
computers for authentication, combined with the same login  
information we use to get on to the wired network. The IT department  
folks get a glazed expression on their faces when you say you have a  
Mac. Apparently, if you're running XP Pro on your laptop it will auto  
configure for access. I don't know if the certificate is a simple  
text file that loads an encryption key, etc. or what. They didn't say  
it was a VPN.


But the bottom line question is: Am I out of luck getting my "Old  
World" 2400 onto this network, or is there a work around (assuming a  
half-way responsive IT department)? My wireless card supports 128-bit  
encryption (I have this working at home). But I don't know what else  
may be required. Suggestions?


Thanks,

Gary F. Daught

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Re: Any "Old World" workaround to get on secured wireless network?

[Fred Stevens K2FRD]

Narrow-minded (univariant) thinking on the part of the IT Dept. Don't they 
realize that Macs are very popular among progressive-minded college students, 
much more so than the great unwashed population as a whole? Is there any reason 
to believe this college is any exception? Perhaps a little mobilization of the 
more radical students might be in order. Use posters with  buzzwords like, 
"Jihad", "Revolution". and "Student Uprising".  :-D

I'm not familiar with the software required, but instead of going through all 
that PC-loading, why not have a wireless network which merely requires online 
login as do many/most  secure wireless networks. Seems to me they're just 
adding one more complication into the formula.

On third thought, let's go back to the protest idea. Paraphrasing a statement 
in "The Hunt For Red October", "Every institution should have a revolution from 
time to time.".

Fred

At 10:23 -0500 26/11/2005, Gary F. Daught wrote:
>Greetings. I probably should wait to ask this until I get more specific 
>information. But my school is thinking about a campus-wide wireless network. 
>The IT department is currently testing the concept in the library (my domain), 
>where up to now we've had a secured wired network for the resident computers 
>and an unsecured wireless network for students coming in with their laptops. 
>It's a Windows XP Pro/PC world here, and they're wanting to secure the 
>wireless network, too.
>
>Up to now I could bring in my PB2400c (running OS 8.6), pop in my TrueMobile 
>card with an ORiNOCO driver, and connect no problem. Not so now! They are 
>requiring a certificate file to be loaded on our computers for authentication, 
>combined with the same login information we use to get on to the wired 
>network. The IT department folks get a glazed expression on their faces when 
>you say you have a Mac. Apparently, if you're running XP Pro on your laptop it 
>will auto configure for access. I don't know if the certificate is a simple 
>text file that loads an encryption key, etc. or what. They didn't say it was a 
>VPN.
>
>But the bottom line question is: Am I out of luck getting my "Old World" 2400 
>onto this network, or is there a work around (assuming a half-way responsive 
>IT department)? My wireless card supports 128-bit encryption (I have this 
>working at home). But I don't know what else may be required. Suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Gary F. Daught

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Re: Any "Old World" workaround to get on secured wireless network?

[Caleb Cupples]

 >>Greetings. I probably should wait to ask this until I get more 
specific information. But my school is thinking about a campus-wide 
wireless network. The IT department is currently testing the concept in 
the library (my domain), where up to now we've had a secured wired 
network for the resident computers and an unsecured wireless network for 
students coming in with their laptops. It's a Windows XP Pro/PC world 
here, and they're wanting to secure the wireless network, too.


Up to now I could bring in my PB2400c (running OS 8.6), pop in my TrueMobile 
card with an ORiNOCO driver, and connect no problem. Not so now! They are 
requiring a certificate file to be loaded on our computers for authentication, 
combined with the same login information we use to get on to the wired network. 
The IT department folks get a glazed expression on their faces when you say you 
have a Mac. Apparently, if you're running XP Pro on your laptop it will auto 
configure for access. I don't know if the certificate is a simple text file 
that loads an encryption key, etc. or what. They didn't say it was a VPN.

But the bottom line question is: Am I out of luck getting my "Old World" 2400 
onto this network, or is there a work around (assuming a half-way responsive IT 
department)? My wireless card supports 128-bit encryption (I have this working at home). 
But I don't know what else may be required. Suggestions?

Thanks,

Gary F. Daught






Assuming that you have a halfway decent IT department, they should be 
able to setup their network in such a method that it senses your MAC 
address and lets you in. I know that my high school has the wireless 
network locked down by MAC address. It took an idiot to set that net up 
without a workaround for older Macs... Don't give up on getting the 2400 
setup, though. I know that it's a frustrating experience dealing with 
Windoze admins, but it has to be done. Take it from someone who has done 
admin on Windoze, Mac (Classic and OSX) and Linux, it can be done.


Best Wishes,
Caleb

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Re: Any "Old World" workaround to get on secured wireless network?

[GalBros]

In a message dated 11/26/05 10:23:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Up to now I could bring in my PB2400c (running OS 8.6), pop in my  
>TrueMobile card with an ORiNOCO driver, and connect no problem. Not  
>so now! They are requiring a certificate file to be loaded on our  
>computers for authentication, combined with the same login  
>information we use to get on to the wired network. 

All may not be lost...

About a year ago I was on the road in a hotel room with wireless. In order 
for me to use the network, I had to load and accept some sort of certificate, 
but my IE browser would not accept it. I found out that by updating to the 
latest version of IE for my classic OS (IE 5.1) I could accept the cerificate 
and 
use the network.

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Re: Any "Old World" workaround to get on secured wireless network?

[Howard R. Katz]

I'd take my computer into the IT department, set it down in front of a 
tech and say "you all broke what was working--here, fix it."  (I doubt 
they know what they're doing to the older machines, but it would at least 
get their attention.  :) )


Later.Howard


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