Re: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
On Sep 28, 2005, at 1:01 PM, Roger Andre wrote: - I do not have an Alternate Ethernet connection option in my Appletalk Control Panel. All I have are: Ethernet, IRTalk, Modem/ Printer, and Remote Only. This is a problem that you must resolve. Without an alternate ethernet option in appletalk and (whatever the regular netowrk control panel was called in 8.1) your card isn't available for use. What options do you have in the internet connections control panel (TCP/IP or network or whatever it was called in 8.1- the same place you select DHCP etc). Also, Appletalk is different than TCP/IP network settings, you want the other network control panel for your initial setup. -B -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:01:24 -0700 From: Roger Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi Hi Kenneth, Thanks for the help. Here is what I know/see: - I have never setup a pcmcia ethernet card in this machine, as I could not find drivers for either the Linksys or Belkin cards that I have. I did setup a Linksys 56k modem however. - I do not have an Alternate Ethernet connection option in my Appletalk Control Panel. All I have are: Ethernet, IRTalk, Modem/Printer, and Remote Only. - When I choose Use DHCP Sever in my TCP/IP settings for Ethernet, I do not have the option to specify a DNS server. All I have is a box that says Search Domains in which I could put an entry. I've been assuming that means something like earthink.net, or globexplorer.com, but am not sure. - Finding the WaveLan Version 6.00.4 driver wasn't easy, and it was the only one I ran across. Do you know where I could find a v6.3 one? - I would love to update the OS on this machine to 8.6, as I believe that I could use the 7.2 Orinoco driver with that OS. However, as lame as it sounds, I haven't been able to find an 8.5 install CD locally, and as I understand it, I need to load that first and then install 8.6 over it. If I'm wrong there, please clarify. I don't know the Mac OS extremely well, and I don't really know what to buy from the descriptions I see on eBay. Alot of the CD's seem to imply that they are restore CD's for specific types of machines. - Thanks for the info on what to do with the hex values in the wi-fi settings. I had no clue there. Regards, Roger Hi Roger. Ok let's start with the easy questions. OS 8.6 is available as a full install cd. No need to purchase OS 8.5 and then upgrade. You would be better off with a Retail version of the OS 8.6 vs a machine specific version. Post a want to buy on the LEM Swap list or check out this link to ebay. http://computers.search.ebay.com:80/OS-8-6_Operating-Systems_W0QQbsZSearchQQcatr efZC6QQfclZ3QQfgtpZQQfposZ23452QQfromZR2QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQlopgZQ QsacatZ80256QQsadisZ200QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsaslcZ2QQsatitleZOSQ208Q2e6QQsbrfto gZ1QQsofocusZunknown How much ram do you have? If you go to OS 8.6 You may need more ram than you currently have. Also read the section on my Wireless FAQ for Known Issues with v7.2 of the Orinoco drivers. The AppleTalk and TCP/IP selections may have been named Ethernet instead of Alternate Ethernet in OS 8.1, so that should not be a problem. In the TCP/IP control panel, put those DSN numbers in the Search Domains section. If the OS 8.1 TCP/IP has a selection that says Alternate Search Domains, then in that one put earthlink.net As for v6.3 of the software, their are links to it on my web site. Here is a direct link. http://ftp4.de.freesbie.org/pub/misc/wavelan/software/ORiNOCO/PC_Card/MacOS/ You want the file MacOS_63.bin. Use Stuffit expander to uncompress the file. This file adds a control strip module which lets you adjust the software settings. I want to remind you, that I do not have a computer using OS 8.1, so everything I say is from my old memory. If others are stilling using OS 8.1, please jump in to help. Its important to note, that your modem software installer may have placed something into the System file. While this is highly unlikely, if it did, then you will need to do a clean install of the OS. The Orinoco software does not like any modification to the System software. Sometimes it will complete its install, but nothing will work. This is covered on my Wireless FAQ. The key to solving your problem is to get wireless working before adding WEP. As I understand, you need 128bit WEP to access the network at work. It has been my experience that getting wireless to work on a PB 1400 or any other PB that uses card and socket services v2 is difficult. Don't worry about that, because it's in the ROMS and you cannot update it. While difficult, wireless can be installed on your 1400. I am typing this to you on a PB 1400 that I have set up with wireless. I can use either the Orinoco card or the Skyline card. I prefer the Skyline, but it only supports 64bit WEP. Just a note to others following this thread. It has been my experience that the Proxima/Faralon Skyline card software v3.1 is much more mature and user friendly than the Orinoco software. If you don't need WEP or can live with 64 bit WEP, then try the Skyline card. Be sure to read Derek Miller's great site to see how to install wireless on older PowerBook computer. http://www.penmachine.com/techie/airport1400print.html#top I hope this helps. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://www.powerbookwireless.net -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support
Re: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:45:57 -0700 From: Roger Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi Snip I have set my Appletalk control panel to Connect Via: Ethernet, and the TCP/IP control panel to Connect Via: Ethernet as well. Aside from that, I'm not really sure what to do next. My IT staff at work has the following type of info listed on our support page: Hi Roger. I have never set up the Orinoco software under OS 8.1 but lets give this a try. First off, have you ever installed a PCMCIA ethernet card? If so, then that software for that card will keep the wireless card from working. To fix that problem you will need to do a clean install of the OS. See my FAQ page for more info on this. If you have not installed a ethernet card, lets see if this will help. First select the AppleTalk Control Panel and select Alternate Ethernet. You do not have to turn on AppleTalk, just point it to the Alternate Ethernet. In the TCP/IP Control Panel, Seclct Connect Via: Alternate Ethernet, Configure: Using DHCP Server. Then make sure you have Name Server Address listed. You can use 207.217.120.83, 207.217.77.82, 207.217.126.81. These are for Earthlink. Your IT Adminstrator may have given you other numbers, if so, use them. When you want to set up the WEP Pasphrase, enter the Hexadecimal value in the WaveLan software, with a $ (Dollar) sign in front of the Hex value. Use the first HEX value your IT admin gave you. Make sure you set the channel on your card, to the same channel you want to connect to. You may want to try to update your WaveLan software with v6.3, which ads a control panel to assist you in setting up a connection. This control pannel should let you see the signal you are trying to connect to. As for testing your card, it would help if you could go to some public wireless area, and see if you can connect to their signal with out WEP. If a friend has a laptop with wireless, he could set up a computer to computer connection (called Ad Hock) and you could try to connect. You need to make sure the card and software package are working before you work on the WEP. As I said before, the Orinoco software seems to work better under OS 8.6. I am sure others on this list have made it work under OS 8.1. I hope this helps. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://www.powerbookwireless.net -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
Hi Kenneth, Thanks for the help. Here is what I know/see: - I have never setup a pcmcia ethernet card in this machine, as I could not find drivers for either the Linksys or Belkin cards that I have. I did setup a Linksys 56k modem however. - I do not have an Alternate Ethernet connection option in my Appletalk Control Panel. All I have are: Ethernet, IRTalk, Modem/Printer, and Remote Only. - When I choose Use DHCP Sever in my TCP/IP settings for Ethernet, I do not have the option to specify a DNS server. All I have is a box that says Search Domains in which I could put an entry. I've been assuming that means something like earthink.net, or globexplorer.com, but am not sure. - Finding the WaveLan Version 6.00.4 driver wasn't easy, and it was the only one I ran across. Do you know where I could find a v6.3 one? - I would love to update the OS on this machine to 8.6, as I believe that I could use the 7.2 Orinoco driver with that OS. However, as lame as it sounds, I haven't been able to find an 8.5 install CD locally, and as I understand it, I need to load that first and then install 8.6 over it. If I'm wrong there, please clarify. I don't know the Mac OS extremely well, and I don't really know what to buy from the descriptions I see on eBay. Alot of the CD's seem to imply that they are restore CD's for specific types of machines. - Thanks for the info on what to do with the hex values in the wi-fi settings. I had no clue there. Regards, Roger -- Kenneth Vann wrote: Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:45:57 -0700 From: Roger Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi Snip I have set my Appletalk control panel to Connect Via: Ethernet, and the TCP/IP control panel to Connect Via: Ethernet as well. Aside from that, I'm not really sure what to do next. My IT staff at work has the following type of info listed on our support page: Hi Roger. I have never set up the Orinoco software under OS 8.1 but lets give this a try. First off, have you ever installed a PCMCIA ethernet card? If so, then that software for that card will keep the wireless card from working. To fix that problem you will need to do a clean install of the OS. See my FAQ page for more info on this. If you have not installed a ethernet card, lets see if this will help. First select the AppleTalk Control Panel and select Alternate Ethernet. You do not have to turn on AppleTalk, just point it to the Alternate Ethernet. In the TCP/IP Control Panel, Seclct Connect Via: Alternate Ethernet, Configure: Using DHCP Server. Then make sure you have Name Server Address listed. You can use 207.217.120.83, 207.217.77.82, 207.217.126.81. These are for Earthlink. Your IT Adminstrator may have given you other numbers, if so, use them. When you want to set up the WEP Pasphrase, enter the Hexadecimal value in the WaveLan software, with a $ (Dollar) sign in front of the Hex value. Use the first HEX value your IT admin gave you. Make sure you set the channel on your card, to the same channel you want to connect to. You may want to try to update your WaveLan software with v6.3, which ads a control panel to assist you in setting up a connection. This control pannel should let you see the signal you are trying to connect to. As for testing your card, it would help if you could go to some public wireless area, and see if you can connect to their signal with out WEP. If a friend has a laptop with wireless, he could set up a computer to computer connection (called Ad Hock) and you could try to connect. You need to make sure the card and software package are working before you work on the WEP. As I said before, the Orinoco software seems to work better under OS 8.6. I am sure others on this list have made it work under OS 8.1. I hope this helps. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://www.powerbookwireless.net -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
I find myself in a similar position to Spencer, and have looked at most of the documentation that has been referred to in this thread. I'm hoping someone can bridge the gap that exists between my understanding of those articles, and a wi-fi connected computer. I also have a Powerbook 1400 with OS 8.1 installed. I purchased a Orinoco Classic Gold PC Card, Model 8410-WD-A Wi-Fi card for it and downloaded Lucent Wavelan version 6.00.4 from http://ftp4.de.freesbie.org/pub/misc/wavelan/software/IEEE/PC_CARD/APPLE/v600/. After installing the Wavelan software, I see a Wavelan/IEEE pc card on my desktop, and the Ready Light on the card turns green. I even get some xmit activity while the machine is booting up. Aside from that though, I have had no further luck getting setup. The card does not show up in AppleTalk as a device that I can use for making a network connection, but the Ethernet option does. I have set my Appletalk control panel to Connect Via: Ethernet, and the TCP/IP control panel to Connect Via: Ethernet as well. Aside from that, I'm not really sure what to do next. My IT staff at work has the following type of info listed on our support page: OfficeWireless SSID: XLS 128bit WEP pasphrase: ravens or hexadecimal: (hex value ommitted) for dell wireless :(hex value ommitted) - Can someone give me a hand and explain how to: - test that the card works - see if I can detect any wireless networks - setup TCP/IP to connect to something Thanks, Roger PS - At this time I don't have the ability to upgrade my OS to 8.6, so please think in terms of 8.1 control panels and network options. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:41:27 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Spencer Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi I know that the subject of Wi-fi cards has been discussed quite a bit. Does anyone have a list of what cards do not (or DO) have drivers available that will work with OS 8.1? I've heard that Macwireless cards have drivers compatible, but are there others? My understanding is that the popular Lucent/Orinoco cards require OS 9 or higher. Thanks, Spence Hi Spence. The Lucent/Orinoco will work from OS 8.1 to 9.2.2, but seem to work best with OS 8.6 or above. To use with OS 8.1 you will need v6 and or v6.3 of the Orinoco drivers. If you can install OS 8.6 on your PB, the use v7.2 of the Orinoco drivers. In addition, Faralon/Proxim Skyline work well from OS 7.5.5 and above, but only support 64Bit WEP. The Asante cards also have drivers for your PowerBook, but the cards are hard to find. My Wireless FAQ has a list of available drivers and cards which will work on your PowerBook. Each card that I have a picture to, has been tested on a PB 1400. It also includes troubleshoot the problems with Wireless on a PowerBook 1400. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://www.powerbookwireless.net -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
I've used the same MacWireless card in the same Powerbook 1400 with OS 7.5, 8, 8.5, and now 9.1. It works great, and I have had no issues with any of the systems I have used. Gunnar Carlson -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Subject: PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
PowerBooks wrote on 9/21/05, 14:32: I know that the subject of Wi-fi cards has been discussed quite a bit. Does anyone have a list of what cards do not (or DO) have drivers available that will work with OS 8.1? *** Hey Spence; Here is a list I found that might or night not help. It was for OS X but it show OS 8 and 9 plus chipsets which will tell you which ones might work with Airport. Good Luck Brad http://home.earthlink.net/~metaphyzx/Wireless.htm -- Brad 55417-1734 Pwr Mac G4 64 MB Radeon 7000 AGP Gtaphics OWC Mercury Extreme 1GHZ CPU Upgrade 1.12GB Ram 9GB Quantum Fireball/ OS 9.2.2 WDC 80GB/ OS X.3.9 Pioneer DVR 105 Pwr Mac G3 BW 64MB Radeon 7000 PCI Graphics card 450MHZ CPU 1gb ram 120 gb Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus X.3.9/80gb Hitachi Deskstar Sata harddrive X.4/ 40gb Maxtor DiamondMax ATA hard drive/9.2.2 Seritek SATA Controller card/Pioneer DVR 105 OS X.3.9/ Lexmark X1185 all- in- one printer. Powerbook 3400c 200MHZ, 144MB ram, 2gig harddrive, OS 9.1, modules; floppy, cd-rom, zip drive If it's good to you, it's good for you -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
PB 1400, OS 8.1 and Wi-fi
I know that the subject of Wi-fi cards has been discussed quite a bit. Does anyone have a list of what cards do not (or DO) have drivers available that will work with OS 8.1? I've heard that Macwireless cards have drivers compatible, but are there others? My understanding is that the popular Lucent/Orinoco cards require OS 9 or higher. Thanks, Spence -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
