Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
Spence, just curious how much RAM do you have in that 1400? I have 48 MB in mine and when I tried to install 9.1 it didn't work. Mine is also running the stock 133mHz processor, not a G3. -Andy Andy, I have a 1400c 166MHz that has 48 Megs of RAM and has run 9.1 since it was released. No problems at all with the install. I then upgraded to a Sonnet 333MHz G3, again without issue. 9.1 ran more reliably than 9.0.4 and 8.1 did for me on _my_ particular machine. 7.6.1 was great as well, allowing me more RAM for apps, but 9.1 has much improved virtual memory capabilities and less internet app related crashes. I use heavy apps (dreamweaver 4, Mozilla 1.0.1, CodeWarrior, BBEdit, MacPerl, etc) and daily 8+ hour use on my 1400 and it holds up well. If it could only handle long file names like OS X can, it'd be perfect for me for years to come. 9.1 doesn't require a G3. It ran on my 604 7600, 603 7300, and my 603e 1400c. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
I'm a littl curious about your setup. I'm on a PB1400c/166, 64 megs of RAM. A few wekks ago I tried loading OS 9.1 onto it, and I felt it was unbearably slow. Did you ahve this problem at first, and find a way to get around it? Brian In a message dated 9/24/2003 1:38:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy, I have a 1400c 166MHz that has 48 Megs of RAM and has run 9.1 since it was released. No problems at all with the install. I then upgraded to a Sonnet 333MHz G3, again without issue. 9.1 ran more reliably than 9.0.4 and 8.1 did for me on _my_ particular machine. 7.6.1 was great as well, allowing me more RAM for apps, but 9.1 has much improved virtual memory capabilities and less internet app related crashes. I use heavy apps (dreamweaver 4, Mozilla 1.0.1, CodeWarrior, BBEdit, MacPerl, etc) and daily 8+ hour use on my 1400 and it holds up well. If it could only handle long file names like OS X can, it'd be perfect for me for years to come. 9.1 doesn't require a G3. It ran on my 604 7600, 603 7300, and my 603e 1400c. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
J Sand wrote: If I max out the ram on my 5300c, will it run 9.2.2 ? Probably not well. 9.1 works, albeit slowly, but I don't know if the hacks to get 9.2.2 to run on older systems (9.2.2 officially requires a G3 or better) will work on it. I'm happier back down at 8.6 on my 5300 with 48 megs of ram... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
9.1 ran more reliably than 9.0.4 and 8.1 did for me on _my_ particular machine. I'll second this. 9.1 has been much more stable than 8.1 on my 1400+G3/333. However, without a G3 and without maxing out the RAM, be warned it will really drag. If you're still using a 603, stay on 8.x (9.1 is just too glacial). -- -- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Floodgap Systems Ltd * So. Calif., USA * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- We aren't your science project! -- Akane, Ranma 1/2 (OAV 9) -- -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
--snip-- Spence, just curious how much RAM do you have in that 1400? I have 48 MB in mine and when I tried to install 9.1 it didn't work. Mine is also running the stock 133mHz processor, not a G3. -Andy --snip-- I've got the max--64megs of RAM. But I think your problem is that OS 9.1 requires a minimum of a G3 processor (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Spence -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
I ran 9.1 on my 1400/117s before upgrading them to G3s. Very slow, but ran. I use 64 meg of real RAM (It ran with 60 Meg also, but prior to upping my real RAM to at least 60 Meg, it wouldn't install.) 9.1 runs well on a G3 w/64 Megs, but it doesn't leave much for working with any apps. Using 68 Meg of Virtual Memory allows using apps like Photoshop, Office 2001, etc. The G3/333 is fairly quick even using VM. The G3/217 is a bit slow, but still usable. David Allen I've got the max--64megs of RAM. But I think your problem is that OS 9.1 requires a minimum of a G3 processor (someone correct me if I'm wrong). -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
I think I read that a 5300 could run 9.1 and it is not a G3. --snip-- Spence, just curious how much RAM do you have in that 1400? I have 48 MB in mine and when I tried to install 9.1 it didn't work. Mine is also running the stock 133mHz processor, not a G3. -Andy --snip-- I've got the max--64megs of RAM. But I think your problem is that OS 9.1 requires a minimum of a G3 processor (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Spence _ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, at 02:32PM, Spencer Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I think your problem is that OS 9.1 requires a minimum of a G3 processor (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Mac OS 9.1 only requires a Power PC processor. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
A 5300 CE and a 1400 will run 9.1. No Voodoo to load it. It is just a straight up install. We are running it on both machines. The 5300 has 48 megs and the 1400 has 64. From: J Sand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: PowerBooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:42:34 -0600 To: PowerBooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip I think I read that a 5300 could run 9.1 and it is not a G3. --snip-- Spence, just curious how much RAM do you have in that 1400? I have 48 MB in mine and when I tried to install 9.1 it didn't work. Mine is also running the stock 133mHz processor, not a G3. -Andy --snip-- I've got the max--64megs of RAM. But I think your problem is that OS 9.1 requires a minimum of a G3 processor (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Spence _ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
Since I don't have much to contribute to this great list, I thought this tidbit might help someone. I successfully installed OS 9.1 (iMac CD from OWC) this weekend on my PB 1400 with Sonnet G3 CPU. It's installed on a second partition (OS 8.1 is still on the first). I was having trouble getting the installer to work until I held down the shift key while booting up from the CD install disk. Then everything went as it should. I know that holding down the shift key while booting up disables extensions, but if you're booting up from a CD I don't know what difference that should make! But it did. I also replaced the old Startup Disk control panel with version 9.2.1. That was a recommendation of someone on this list. Spence -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 1400 OS 9.1 installation tip
On 9/22/03 2:25 PM, Spencer Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: I successfully installed OS 9.1 (iMac CD from OWC) this weekend on my PB 1400 with Sonnet G3 CPU. It's installed on a second partition (OS 8.1 is still on the first). Spence, just curious how much RAM do you have in that 1400? I have 48 MB in mine and when I tried to install 9.1 it didn't work. Mine is also running the stock 133mHz processor, not a G3. -Andy -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
