Re: Ram Doubler

[Noah Wood]

I have no clue, is there a way to check?

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> Noah, What version of Ram Doubler are you using?  Some Ram Doubler
> versions don't work so well with OS 8.6-9.1.
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Re: Ram Doubler

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Noah, What version of Ram Doubler are you using?  Some Ram Doubler
versions don't work so well with OS 8.6-9.1.

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Re: Ram Doubler

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I have Mac OS 8.6. VM is off  Conterol Stip will not start from the
Control Stip CP.  I love the Control Stip and I have no idea why this
happens!

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Re: Ram Doubler

[Richard Smiley]

Sorry about the extra junk. That was supposed to go to Noah, not the  
group.


Rick :)

On Jan 27, 2006, at 7:43 AM, Richard Smiley wrote:


Hey Noah,

What OS are you running? I'm using RAM Doubler on PB 1400cs 166 in  
OS 9.1 with no issues.


Rick :)

On Jan 26, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Noah Wood wrote:


I just got Ram Doubler and Speed Doubler in the mail today, Speed
Doubler is good, but Ram Doubler disables my Control Strip and it
won't start up, any way to fix this?

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Re: Ram Doubler

[Howard R. Katz]

I've used RamDoubler on two different machines, and usually the problem 
when it popped up was a version incompatibility--I needed to get a later 
version.  It shouldn't have any affect on the control strip tho.  Could 
that be turned off in the control panel and just needs to be turned back 
on?


(Oh--also make sure you have virtual memory turned off in the CP--IIRC 
that does conflict with ramdoubler running)


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Re: Ram Doubler

[Richard Smiley]

Hey Noah,

What OS are you running? I'm using RAM Doubler on PB 1400cs 166 in OS  
9.1 with no issues.


Rick :)

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I just got Ram Doubler and Speed Doubler in the mail today, Speed
Doubler is good, but Ram Doubler disables my Control Strip and it
won't start up, any way to fix this?

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Ram Doubler

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I just got Ram Doubler and Speed Doubler in the mail today, Speed
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Re: RAM Doubler 8.1

[Howard R. Katz]

Several versions of Ram Doubler and one "original" Speed Doubler are 
currently listed on ebay.  :)


Later...Howard


On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Richard Smiley wrote:

I'm looking for "RAM Doubler" and "Speed Doubler" for my PB 1400 166 MHz. I 
can't seem to find it anywhere.



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RAM Doubler

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I have a PB 1400 in need of RAM Doubler and Speed Doubler.

Anyone know where I might find them?

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RAM Doubler 8.1

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I'm looking for "RAM Doubler" and "Speed Doubler" for my PB 1400 166  
MHz. I can't seem to find it anywhere.


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RAM Doubler/Tripler(?) question

[COCCORP]

Hi fellow true-believers,

I have RD 8 on my PB 1400/183; it was acting kinda janky, crashing 
frequently, like every 10 minutes(!) whether left alone or doing simple stuff, like 
going to the SPECIAL menu...

I looked on my RD 8 control panel, and remembered that I had it set to 
multiply the built-in RAM (40mb) to 100mb. So it was x 2.5...

I reset it to just double the RAM to 80mb. Restarted the laptop; works just 
fine so far! Has not crashed all day.

WHat gives?

Craig W.

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Re: Where can I get RAM Doubler?

[Luca Rescigno]

Luca

i think I have a copy laying around. I will try
to look fo it this weekend
jeff
No need, I just bought some more physical RAM. I'll have 24 MB now, 
which should be plenty.

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Re: Where can I get RAM Doubler?

[Jeff Andrusin]

Luca

i think I have a copy laying around. I will try
to look fo it this weekend

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Where can I get RAM Doubler?

[Luca Rescigno]

I've just received my PowerBook 520c today and I really like it! It's 
quite fast even in system 7.5.5 (which came with it). I'm thinking of 
going to 7.6.1 just because it's better than 7.5.x, but right now it's 
really low on RAM and I wanted to install RAM Doubler on it. I remember 
having it on an LC III+ from a while ago, and it worked fine, but now I 
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I know it's just a simple extension so all I need is the RamDoubler 
1.6.2 extension and I'll be fine. Does anyone have this?

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Re: ...Ram Doubler vs Mac VM

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--- Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Scolman wrote:
> > Hi All, does anyone know if there is any definitive knowledge on
> the subject
> > of Ram Doubler being better or worse than Mac OS VM?  That is is
> one more
> > effective than the other in day to day computing work?  Thanks Jim
> Scolman.
> 
> yes and no.
> 
> It really depends on the version of Mac OS you're talking about < 8.6
> 
> the RamDoubler VM is better 8.6 on up, the Mac's is.

RamDoubler uses an algorithm of some kind to double the effective
memory space (sorta like compressing a .sit or .zip file). This slows
down all RAM reads and writes because the compressed data stored in the
physical RAM has to be decompressed.  There are some hacks for really
old versions of RamDoubler that let you increase the compression factor
from 2 up to something utterly ridiculous like 16 (i.e. 2 MB physical
RAM = 32 MB useable RAM!!). As the ratio gets higher, performance
suffers.

MacOS VM, in any version, uses hard drive space to supplement the
physical RAM.  As a result, any access to the "virtual" area of
addressable RAM (the part that is actually on the hard drive) is slowed
down to the hard drive's speed, which is much much slower than any RAM.
And requires access to the hard disk, making it a bad idea for
PowerBook users on battery.

In my experience (admittedly limited to System 7.x) this is the order
of perfomance, from best to worst:

Neither
RamDoubler (2x if adjustable)
RamDoubler (any other setting)
Virtual Memory (distant fourth)

Just my $.02
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Re: ...Ram Doubler vs Mac VM

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> Jim Scolman wrote:
>> Hi All, does anyone know if there is any definitive knowledge on the subject
>> of Ram Doubler being better or worse than Mac OS VM?  That is is one more
>> effective than the other in day to day computing work?  Thanks Jim Scolman.
> 
> yes and no.
> 
> It really depends on the version of Mac OS you're talking about < 8.6
> the RamDoubler VM is better 8.6 on up, the Mac's is.

not exactly always...on a 5300 I was refurbing, vm still would not enable
the read of cd's via external cd-rom drive.  added rd, voila...magic read
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Re: ...Ram Doubler vs Mac VM

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Jim Scolman wrote:
Hi All, does anyone know if there is any definitive knowledge on the subject
of Ram Doubler being better or worse than Mac OS VM?  That is is one more
effective than the other in day to day computing work?  Thanks Jim Scolman.
yes and no.

It really depends on the version of Mac OS you're talking about < 8.6 
the RamDoubler VM is better 8.6 on up, the Mac's is.

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...Ram Doubler vs Mac VM

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Hi All, does anyone know if there is any definitive knowledge on the subject
of Ram Doubler being better or worse than Mac OS VM?  That is is one more
effective than the other in day to day computing work?  Thanks Jim Scolman.
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Re: Ram Doubler (was: 1400c RAM Stacking)

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>Ram Doubler worked well up to about OS 8.1, but Apple made considerable
>improvements in VM with 8.6 and up, at which point Ram Doubler's value
>decreased considerably, especially since there are a lot of things that
>conflict with it.

Does anyone know if Ram Doubler would be incompatible with SoftWindows 95
running on OS 8.1?

(If you do know, you can reply off-list if you think this is getting too
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Re: Stumped! 5300 and Ram Doubler

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victoria

> I'm totally stumped.  My 5300c simply refuses to work with Ram Doubler.  It
> has its stock amount of real RAM (16MB soldered in), an upgraded HD (IBM
> 1GB), no PC cards, running MacOS 8.1.  Whenever I try to install Ram Doubler
> (version 8.01 or 9.01, or 8, or 9) I get a "bus error" immediately when
> starting up.  This is when the MacOS screen comes up, before any
> extension/control panel icons show up.  I get the bus error if no other
> extensions are loaded EXCEPT for Ram Doubler.  I get the bus error if I load
> ALL extensions, INCLUDING Ram Doubler.  Funny thing is, if I turn virtual
> memory ON (built in Apple Control Panel) and have Ram Doubler loaded at the
> same time, the computer will boot fine and it will tell me Ram Doubler
> cannot load because virtual memory is active (turn it off!)  I've tried
> loading a clean system installation with all the extensions on/off, no luck.
> I KNOW other people must be using RD with their 5300s - any ideas?  I ran
> TechTool Pro (latest 3.0.7 version) and everything checks out fine.  Same
> for Norton Disk Doctor.
> 
> 
> 
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Hi the only version i could get to work with 8.1 on a 5300 is Ram Doubler
1.5.1. you could try that

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Re: Stumped! 5300 and Ram Doubler

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>I'm totally stumped.  My 5300c simply refuses to work with Ram Doubler.  It 
>has its stock amount of real RAM (16MB soldered in), an upgraded HD (IBM 
>1GB), no PC cards, running MacOS 8.1.  Whenever I try to install Ram Doubler 
>(version 8.01 or 9.01, or 8, or 9) I get a "bus error" immediately when 
>starting up.  This is when the MacOS screen comes up, before any 
>extension/control panel icons show up.  I get the bus error if no other 
>extensions are loaded EXCEPT for Ram Doubler.  I get the bus error if I load 
>ALL extensions, INCLUDING Ram Doubler.  Funny thing is, if I turn virtual 
>memory ON (built in Apple Control Panel) and have Ram Doubler loaded at the 
>same time, the computer will boot fine and it will tell me Ram Doubler 
>cannot load because virtual memory is active (turn it off!)  I've tried 
>loading a clean system installation with all the extensions on/off, no luck. 
>  I KNOW other people must be using RD with their 5300s - any ideas?  I ran 
>TechTool Pro (latest 3.0.7 version) and everything checks out fine.  Same 
>for Norton Disk Doctor.
Assuming your RAM card's seated correctly, try putting a space in front 
of RD so it loads earlier. As a CP in OS 8/9 (IIRC), it loads later as a 
CP. See how it goes elsewhere in the boot process (can't hurt).

Cheers,

RD

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Stumped! 5300 and Ram Doubler

[c d]

I'm totally stumped.  My 5300c simply refuses to work with Ram Doubler.  It 
has its stock amount of real RAM (16MB soldered in), an upgraded HD (IBM 
1GB), no PC cards, running MacOS 8.1.  Whenever I try to install Ram Doubler 
(version 8.01 or 9.01, or 8, or 9) I get a "bus error" immediately when 
starting up.  This is when the MacOS screen comes up, before any 
extension/control panel icons show up.  I get the bus error if no other 
extensions are loaded EXCEPT for Ram Doubler.  I get the bus error if I load 
ALL extensions, INCLUDING Ram Doubler.  Funny thing is, if I turn virtual 
memory ON (built in Apple Control Panel) and have Ram Doubler loaded at the 
same time, the computer will boot fine and it will tell me Ram Doubler 
cannot load because virtual memory is active (turn it off!)  I've tried 
loading a clean system installation with all the extensions on/off, no luck. 
  I KNOW other people must be using RD with their 5300s - any ideas?  I ran 
TechTool Pro (latest 3.0.7 version) and everything checks out fine.  Same 
for Norton Disk Doctor.



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Speed and Ram Doubler 8

[William Barnett-Lewis]

Hello all,

It seems that these were the last versions to support M68k and also are
no longer available from Connectix. Does anyone out there have a copy of
these 2 packages that they would care to sell? 

Thanks,

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Re: Ram Doubler

[Tina Holm]

At 22:12 -0400 10/07/01, Donna Hood Pointer wrote:
>I am pretty sure that Photoshop still is not compatible with RamDoubler I
>don't think it ever has been.

I've run RD 1/2 and Photoshop 2.5/3.0.5 on both my IIfx and my Q800 with no
problems. I'm running RD 8 and Photoshop 3.0.5/5.5 on my 8500 with no
problems.

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Re: Ram Doubler

[Bruce Johnson]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:12:53 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donna Hood Pointer)
wrote:
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>I am pretty sure that Photoshop still is not compatible with RamDoubler I
>don't think it ever has been. I haven't used it since version 4 but way back
>then Photoshop used its own method of virtual memory. In the lab where we
>had it RamDoubler had to be disabled to use Photoshop, so they bought more
>ram instead. This was a community college's graphic arts computer lab and
>they needed Photoshop more than they needed RamDoubler.

FWIW, Photoshop _still_ has it's own VM scheme (you set it up in preferences,
where you designate a scratch disk. Also, NOTHING beats real memory, RD is
really only a stopgap measure, and hasn't really been necessary since system
8.1 or so, as Apple's own VM started improving greatly then.

Photoshop runs with VM on, but much prefers not to.


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Ram Doubler

[Donna Hood Pointer]

 
> I just had RD 9 on my 8500 running 8.5.1, and it was a disaster, froze up
> the machine when I tried to launch Photoshop (v. 3.0.5 and 5.5), so I had
> to remove all traces of it, and never got around to seeing how it ran
> otherwise.
I am pretty sure that Photoshop still is not compatible with RamDoubler I
don't think it ever has been. I haven't used it since version 4 but way back
then Photoshop used its own method of virtual memory. In the lab where we
had it RamDoubler had to be disabled to use Photoshop, so they bought more
ram instead. This was a community college's graphic arts computer lab and
they needed Photoshop more than they needed RamDoubler.
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Re: Ram Doubler

[Tina Holm]

At 23:56 +0200 10/07/01, Karl Gerlach wrote:
>1400cs/333 MHz/64 MB/20GB. Ram Doubler 9. As I said, I have the impression
>this is slowing a few things down.

I don't have RD on my PB 1400, but I've used . 1, 2 and 8 with various Macs
and systems. I've seen very little slow down, but it's there. Less than
with VM though.

I just had RD 9 on my 8500 running 8.5.1, and it was a disaster, froze up
the machine when I tried to launch Photoshop (v. 3.0.5 and 5.5), so I had
to remove all traces of it, and never got around to seeing how it ran
otherwise.

According the the connectix website RD 9 is supposed to work from 8.0 and up.

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Re: Ram Doubler

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Re: Ram Doubler Slows?

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At 22:58 +0200 09/07/01, Marten van de Kraats wrote:
>What hardware do you use and which version of the mac os?

And what version RD?

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Re: Ram Doubler Slows?

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>Just on a lark, I am trying out the latest version of Ram Doubler, 
>which I used years ago, on my Frankenbook. Is it just me, or does 
>this thing slow down various processes? I thought Ram Doubler was 
>supposed to be a bit sparkier than Apple's regular VM.
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