Re: browser help

2004-07-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:03 PM, KG wrote:
I can't understand why iCab would perform badly for you, though. It 
uses a
smaller RAM footprint and is coded specifically for a Mac, not ported 
from
Windows like IE and Netscape.
Mild point of historical accuracy:
Netscape was never '...ported from Windows...', and ironically, IE and 
Netscape are both derived from the same basic code:  a Unix X11 
application developed at the National Center for Supercomputing 
Applications http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ called Mosaic, ( 
http://www.w3.org/History.html see 1993)

They're the same place that developed the mainstay Telnet application 
for the Mac, called NSCA Telnet, btw.

IE is derived from a commercialized version of NSCA Mosaic called 
Spyglass, and Netscape is the brainchild of one of the original Mosaic 
developers, Marc Andresson.

That IE is a gaping, oozing, bug-ridden, insecure wound of an 
application, therefore, is *entirely* Microsoft's fault. (sorry, I 
spent a large part of yesterday cleaning up some PC's infested with 
spyware, because the users are too stupid to not use IE.)

Netscape has been simultaneously developed for Unix, Macs and Windows 
since it's inception:

http://www.hnehosting.com/mirrors/Origin_of_a_Browser/1/a.html
I remember arguing (successfully) to use Mosaic (such a hassle, you 
needed a separate application to view JPEG files), later Netscape 
(which had built-in JPEG support!!) as our default browser when we got 
web access here in the College in 1994, largely because it was 
cross-platform versus Cello, which was PC only.

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Re: Browser Help

2004-07-16 Thread MMB


D J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...However, I need to upgrade my browser if possible.  I
 cannot seem to find older versions of internet explorer for download.  Does
 anyone have any suggestions for a browser I could use?  I prefer internet
 explorer but am willing to change.  I am working with a Powerbook 1400cs
 with os 8.0.

In March of this year I asked that same question and was answered by
this mailing group so I am happy to pass on the solution that worked for me.

I have a Powerbook 3400c/240 using OS 8.1 and did not want to upgrade
because everything except the browser (Netscape Communicator 4.79) was
working fine.

I was advised to download iCab and I did so. 

What a relief. It copes with most web pages.

http://www.icab.de/

Netscape Archived Client Products
http://wp.netscape.com/download/archive/client_archive47x.html

Some odd pages will still freeze the pages but that is life until you
can catch up with current web design.

Good luck and enjoy your Powerbook 1400cs as long as you can.

M B

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Re: Browser Help

2004-07-16 Thread George Mogiljansky
Yes, Nav.4.08 still can access Yahoo mail by going to
say Canada Yahoo, clicking on mail and you get the
option of using the older version - works fine.
George



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 possible.  




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Re: browser help

2004-07-15 Thread Fluxstringer
Okay I've gotten my wireless card installed now (Thank you!) and am 
able to get internet access.  However, I need to upgrade my browser 
if possible.  I cannot seem to find older versions of internet 
explorer for download.  Does anyone have any suggestions for a 
browser I could use?  I prefer internet explorer but am willing to 
change.  I am working with a Powerbook 1400cs with os 8.0.

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Many people love IE.  I think it's the worst torture  a browser can 
impose on the user.

I would recommend Netscape 4.79 as a reasonable alternative.  You 
might even find it on your OS install disk..

I have tried IE in many versions for 5 years.. It is a pain.  And I 
have heard all of the arguments before.
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Re: browser help

2004-07-15 Thread Jacob Hunter
Hi,
http://www.pure-mac.com/webb.html has a pretty good selection of 
browsers for Macs old and new.

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Re: browser help

2004-07-15 Thread KG
If that's a stock 1400cs/117, the only acceptable browser I would care to
use would be iCab.

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Re: browser help

2004-07-15 Thread Jacob Hunter
IE 5 runs ok on mine, icab seemed pretty horrendous. Opera actually is 
quite likable on an old mac like that. Mine has 24Mb of RAM and is 
running os 9.1.
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On 15 Jul 2004, at 22:14, KG wrote:
If that's a stock 1400cs/117, the only acceptable browser I would care 
to
use would be iCab.


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Re: browser help

2004-07-15 Thread Fluxstringer
IE 5 runs ok on mine, icab seemed pretty horrendous. Opera actually 
is quite likable on an old mac like that. Mine has 24Mb of RAM and 
is running os 9.1.
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