Re: mac os 7.1.1 on floppy disk

2003-03-11 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2003-03-11 06:03, Justin C Rouzzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how can i install mac os 7.1.1 on a floppy or mabe get a boot disk for it?
 (besides the disktools disk)

Buy it on eBay. Or even from Apple still?

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Re: mac os 7.1.1 on floppy disk

2003-03-11 Thread Dan Palka
There is a good website still that as all of the systems up to 7.5.5 for 
free download, including system 7 pro (7.1.1).

I forget where, but I always find it on google after a few minutes of 
searching when I need some old OS.

The title of the page was where to download the macos

how can i install mac os 7.1.1 on a floppy or mabe get a boot disk for it?
(besides the disktools disk)

   any help appriceated

thanks

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Re: mac os 7.1.1 on floppy disk

2003-03-11 Thread jennbert
how can i install mac os 7.1.1 on a floppy or mabe get a boot disk for it?
(besides the disktools disk)

Try this link http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-13 Thread victoria brandon
Rob asked:

 
 Did you make the floppy disks AFTER the images were mounted on the desktop?
 
 I didn't think there was a way to make the images directly into disks.


Yes -- and I never tried to construct a whole system that way, just the
emergency boot disk floppies for 7.5x  8.5.

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-13 Thread Fabian Fang
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 05:07AM, Joost van de Griek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2003-02-12 23:53, Fran Dollinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I haven't followed this thread entirely but if the question is about the
 downloadable disk images on Apple's site...I too, have made a set of floppies
 using them and have installed OS 7.5 on several machines this way. Is the
 debate about whether or not this is possible? If so, it is, even by a Mac
 novice like me.

Not anymore. In the past, Apple had both the floppy version of System 7.5.3
available online, as a series of single 1.4 MB floppy images, and the CD
version, which consists of 19 parts of one big image file that can be burnt
to a CD-R.

The floppy version is no longer available for download, for some reason.

Not true.  Take a look at the following massive list of old Apple software still 
available for ready downloading:

http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-13 Thread Fran Dollinger
Joost van de Griek wrote:

On 2003-02-13 15:38, Fabian Fang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 05:07AM, Joost van de Griek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 2003-02-12 23:53, Fran Dollinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

I haven't followed this thread entirely but if the question is about the
downloadable disk images on Apple's site...I too, have made a set of
floppies using them and have installed OS 7.5 on several machines this way.
Is the debate about whether or not this is possible? If so, it is, even by a
Mac novice like me.


Not anymore. In the past, Apple had both the floppy version of System 7.5.3
available online, as a series of single 1.4 MB floppy images, and the CD
version, which consists of 19 parts of one big image file that can be burnt
to a CD-R.

The floppy version is no longer available for download, for some reason.
  

Not true.  Take a look at the following massive list of old Apple software
still available for ready downloading:

http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html



I have looked there, and the only FULL INSTALLATION of System 7.5 version
7.5.3 still listed is the multipart installer download, the floppy version
is not listed there.

,xtG
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I just took a look also, the multipart (19parts) installer is what I 
used to make my floppies.

Fran

  



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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-13 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2003-02-13 16:43, Fran Dollinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joost van de Griek wrote:
 
 I have looked there, and the only FULL INSTALLATION of System 7.5 version
 7.5.3 still listed is the multipart installer download, the floppy version
 is not listed there.
 
 I just took a look also, the multipart (19parts) installer is what I
 used to make my floppies.

Okay, I'm very curious how you managed that.

I downloaded System 7.5.3 12of19.part.bin, and tried to coax Disk Copy into
doing something other that throw me an error message with it, and failed.

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-13 Thread Fran Dollinger
Joost van de Griek wrote:

On 2003-02-13 17:26, Fran Dollinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Joost van de Griek wrote:



On 2003-02-13 16:43, Fran Dollinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

I just took a look also, the multipart (19parts) installer is what I used to
make my floppies.


Okay, I'm very curious how you managed that.

I downloaded System 7.5.3 12of19.part.bin, and tried to coax Disk Copy into
doing something other that throw me an error message with it, and failed.
  

It's been almost a year ago that I did it...IIRC I had to download them in
order because you have to have the first one  (smi.bin) in order to do
anything with the others. D/L #1-19 each on their own floppy and when you go
to install you have to create a folder on the machine you want to install to
and transfer each disk into that folder and then start from the #1 smi.bin. I
remember it took me quite a long time to figure out the process with alot of
going back and forth but perserverence paid off. If you seriously need this
let me know and I'll try to reconstruct the process in depth for you.



No, thanks. I guess we were both right.

There is no way you can make a set of install floppies from those parts,
like I said.

They do work together to make ONE SINGLE image that contains the installer.

Technically, you didn't use the installer to make floppies; you used
floppies to transfer the installer image to a hard drive.

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Yes, I see what you mean. I guess I go by...Whatever gets the job done, 
whether it be orthodox or just by luck. Having no formal training in any 
of this, I'm lucky that I can almost always fanagle stuff to come out 
with the desired effect.

Fran
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-13 Thread Robert Patterson


Wow, I'm glad this confusion seems to be solved!  I thought I'd been
having hallucinations!   :-)

 Rob


Technically, you didn't use the installer to make floppies; you used
floppies to transfer the installer image to a hard drive.

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-13 Thread RaceCivicR
I've gotten it to work fine (tested on a 520c and Quadra 800). Don't get me 
wrong, it's not easy but I'll do my best to describe how I did it. First I 
downloaded the whole 19 files and then decompressed the whole deal (gives you 
a folder which is your installer). Anyway, I then used it to instal the basic 
OS (custom instal) onto a blank hard drive which now gave me my system 
folder. Now the hard part. I then used disk copy to make me a blank image 
file (use standard hfs) and threw the installer and the system folder onto it 
so now when you open the .img file you have your installer and the system 
folder on it. I then used Toast Ti 5, selected other (hold down on the mouse) 
and then selected Mac Volume and this gives you the option to select the 
mounted image. Select it, click bootable (gotten weird results selecting 
optimize on the fly, might want to unclick it) and presto a bootable 7.5.3 
installer. 

You may also want to add the 7.5.5 updater to the disk as well. Just be sure 
to put the updater into it's own folder, make an alias and put that next to 
the 7.5.3 installer icon.

   Jake

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...

I tried to burn bootables cds for older macs and it doesnt work - the 

old mac freezes -

they are all like discimages that is started from the first one, 

there is no install system present in theese diskimages - just an 

installer,

you could as I finally did take the system files from a 8.1 cd and 

then burn the diskimages together with that, start from the 8.1 

system on the cd and install the 7.5.3 wherever you want it.

kenta

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-12 Thread Gary Sparkes
ahh... thanks anyway!
  I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the set of
  DiskCopy images available on the Apple site is not designed to make
  individual floppy disks, but the images are instead designed to be
mounted
  on the desktop and installed directly from there.

 You are not wrong.



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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-12 Thread Fran Dollinger
I haven't followed this thread entirely but if the question is about the 
downloadable disk images on Apple's site...I too, have made a set of 
floppies using them and have installed OS 7.5 on several machines this 
way. Is the debate about whether or not this is possible? If so, it is, 
even by a Mac novice like me.

Gary Sparkes wrote:

ahh... thanks anyway!
  

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the set of
DiskCopy images available on the Apple site is not designed to make
individual floppy disks, but the images are instead designed to be
  

mounted
  

on the desktop and installed directly from there.
  

You are not wrong.





  





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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Patterson


Fran,

The downloads for System 7.5 were regular floppy images of an install set,
as you say.

I think it's System 7.5.3 which is only available as a set of images that
must be mounted on the desktop and installed from there.

 Rob



I haven't followed this thread entirely but if the question is about the 
downloadable disk images on Apple's site...I too, have made a set of 
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way. Is the debate about whether or not this is possible? If so, it is, 
even by a Mac novice like me.


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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-12 Thread Dana Collins
Greetings,
A question on this; once downloaded and unstuffed (the 19 parts of OS
7.5.3), is it possible to take the unstuffed parts and burn a working
installer CD? I'm thinking that the issue of using a newer faster Mac to
download the System to use on an older (aka, slower) Mac would not be an
uncommon scenario.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Dana
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 Subject: Re: Mac OS
 
 On 2003-02-12 02:25, Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the set of
 DiskCopy images available on the Apple site is not designed to make
 individual floppy disks, but the images are instead designed to be mounted
 on the desktop and installed directly from there.
 
 You are not wrong.
 
 The System 7.5.3 download from Apple consists of 19 parts of ONE big disk
 image.
 
 The idea is that you download and unstuff the parts, then mount the image
 and install from there.
 
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-12 Thread Fran Dollinger
Rob,

I have a copy of that (7.5.3), as well. Made the same way as 7.5.

Fran


Robert Patterson wrote:

Fran,

The downloads for System 7.5 were regular floppy images of an install set,
as you say.

I think it's System 7.5.3 which is only available as a set of images that
must be mounted on the desktop and installed from there.

 Rob


  

I haven't followed this thread entirely but if the question is about the 
downloadable disk images on Apple's site...I too, have made a set of 
floppies using them and have installed OS 7.5 on several machines this 
way. Is the debate about whether or not this is possible? If so, it is, 
even by a Mac novice like me.




  





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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-12 Thread k
Greetings,
A question on this; once downloaded and unstuffed (the 19 parts of OS
7.5.3), is it possible to take the unstuffed parts and burn a working
installer CD? I'm thinking that the issue of using a newer faster Mac to
download the System to use on an older (aka, slower) Mac would not be an
uncommon scenario.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Dana

I tried to burn bootables cds for older macs and it doesnt work - the 
old mac freezes -
they are all like discimages that is started from the first one, 
there is no install system present in theese diskimages - just an 
installer,
you could as I finally did take the system files from a 8.1 cd and 
then burn the diskimages together with that, start from the 8.1 
system on the cd and install the 7.5.3 wherever you want it.
kenta
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-11 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2003-02-11 01:34, Gary Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://macfaq.org/software/macos.shtml#Q1.1.6

 i need a full 7.5.x install disk set :)

I don't see why that trick wouldn't work on other disk images than the ones
mentioned in the FAQ?

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-11 Thread Gary Sparkes
the images are THE FULL INSTALL SET (DISKCOPY) images :) from apple ^.^
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 On 2003-02-11 01:34, Gary Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://macfaq.org/software/macos.shtml#Q1.1.6
 
  i need a full 7.5.x install disk set :)

 I don't see why that trick wouldn't work on other disk images than the
ones
 mentioned in the FAQ?

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-11 Thread Robert Patterson


Maybe if you made it clear EXACTLY what OS it is that you have...?
I've seen you write 7.5.? , but what does the ? signify?  Is it a zero
or a 3?

So, I think I understand that you have DiskCopy images of some OS, and
that possibly you are trying to convert these to floppy disks on your PC?

Is that the case?

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-11 Thread Gary Sparkes
yes, i beleive it is 7.5.3, 
 So, I think I understand that you have DiskCopy images of some OS, and
 that possibly you are trying to convert these to floppy disks on your PC?
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-10 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2003-02-06 01:16, Gary Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is there any way i can get 7.5.3 on binary disk images so as to write them to
 floppy on a pc using a program like rawrite (commonly used to write *nux
 bootdisks)? or is there a program to open diskcopy on windows?

http://macfaq.org/software/macos.shtml#Q1.1.6

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-08 Thread k


is there a pc program that can read the disk copy images?
   

on our domestic maclist (macsweden) someone said that toasts 
diskimages (from roxio) can be transferred to a pc read  and if you 
want  then burnt, a toast discimage is very much alike a disk copy 
img, and toast can mount img files. but then you  need to have a copy 
of toast, but if you have it already try save as diskimage and in a 
pc friendly format ?
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-08 Thread Gary Sparkes
hrm? what should i do?
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 is there a pc program that can read the disk copy images?

 
 on our domestic maclist (macsweden) someone said that toasts 
 diskimages (from roxio) can be transferred to a pc read  and if you 
 want  then burnt, a toast discimage is very much alike a disk copy 
 img, and toast can mount img files. but then you  need to have a copy 
 of toast, but if you have it already try save as diskimage and in a 
 pc friendly format ?
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-08 Thread k
hrm? what should i do?
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this was an option if you already had toast a program for burning cds 
- you can save discimages in that one -
and if you have toast in both pc and mac they can read each others 
images, and toast can mount disk copy images on the mac anyhow.
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-08 Thread Charlie Reyes
this was an option if you already had toast a program for burning cds
- you can save discimages in that one -
and if you have toast in both pc and mac they can read each others
images, and toast can mount disk copy images on the mac anyhow.
kenta

Not sure if Roxio EZ CD Creator for Windows can read Roxio Toast disc
images unless you install a software like Macdrive 98 or newer that
reads/writes/saves Mac files on a PC.

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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-08 Thread Gary Sparkes
its the 7.5.? diskcopy image i need to make floppies from it on a windowspc
 this was an option if you already had toast a program for burning cds
 - you can save discimages in that one -
 and if you have toast in both pc and mac they can read each others
 images, and toast can mount disk copy images on the mac anyhow.
 kenta
 
 Not sure if Roxio EZ CD Creator for Windows can read Roxio Toast disc
 images unless you install a software like Macdrive 98 or newer that
 reads/writes/saves Mac files on a PC.
 
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-07 Thread Ben Smith


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 From: PowerBooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe
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 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:35 PM
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 Subject: Re: Mac OS


  From: Gary Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  is there a pc program that can read the disk copy images?

 No, but maybe some day Connectix will develop a
 Virtual Mac OS XI for pea sea's.  Then you can use DiskCopy.
 Joe

???
What about the existing Mac emulators???
I use basilisk and it reads disk images fine.
Ben.
Nb you are limited to Os8.6 (officially it only supports 8.1, but with the
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-06 Thread Gary Sparkes
is there a pc program that can read the disk copy images?
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 Subject: Mac OS
 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:16:55 -0800
 
 is there any way i can get 7.5.3 on binary disk images so as to write
them
 to floppy on a pc using a program like rawrite (commonly used to write
*nux
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 no, i do not think there is a way todo that as for running disk copy you
 need a PC program that can do that. i you want to make coppy's of a disk,
 coppy the stuff on the disk to your computer and then put the disk in that
 you want to coppy and coppy it to the disk
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-06 Thread Joe Melinis
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 is there a pc program that can read the disk copy images?

No, but maybe some day Connectix will develop a
Virtual Mac OS XI for pea sea's.  Then you can use DiskCopy.
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Re: Mac OS

2003-02-05 Thread Alex Retterer




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is there any way i can get 7.5.3 on binary disk images so as to write them
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no, i do not think there is a way todo that as for running disk copy you 
need a PC program that can do that. i you want to make coppy's of a disk, 
coppy the stuff on the disk to your computer and then put the disk in that 
you want to coppy and coppy it to the disk
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Re: Mac OS 9.0 to 9.2 upgrade

2002-03-21 Thread Bruce Johnson

Tobias Strohe wrote:
 Hello Listas  Listessas,
 
 I (my wife) just inherited her mom's PB Kanga (original G3) and I would like
 to install
 the last classic OS possible on it. I own a OS 9.0 system CD. What do I need
 to purchase
 to upgrade to 9.2.x ? Or will iTunes work with 9.0, (or) what OS do you guys
 recommend?

No need to upgrade to 9.2, the only changes in 9.2 from 9.1 are things 
to make it work with OSX 10.1, and new Apple hardware.

9.1 is a free downloadable upgrade from Apple, though, again, I'm not 
sure it's needed.

Itunes works fine with OS 9.1, at least.

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Re: Mac OS 10.1 IS HERE!

2001-09-25 Thread MacinNW

Whoa  Michelle, the release is __after__ Friday at midnight!

Per my conversation with the  Computer Store/ PowerMax/ the MugStore, a 
25-year Authorized Dealer, the Instant Up-to-Date version is the flat-pak, 
full 10.1 CD and 9.2.1 updater CD, _no_ Developer Tools CD. You need to bring 
either the coupons or your receipt. Some retailers may accept as proof of 
purchase the OS 10.0.x CD.

The $20 version is supposed to be more complete.

So there is still some speculation and waiting left.

Brent, 

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In a message dated 9/25/01 03:31:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Well, PowerBook and iBook owners, it's official. Mac OS 10.1 is officially

released today, announced at Seybold. If you're new to OS X, it's $129.
If 
you're upgrading from 10.0.X, you have two options. You can go to your
local 
Apple retailer, and FOR FREE (while supplies last), get an instant update

package consisting of the OS 10.1 upgrade CD, the 9.2.1 update CD and a
Mac 
OS X manual (I don't know what you have to do to prove you already have
OS 
X). Or, for $19.95 shipping an handling, you can get it from Apple 
(www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade -- download the form) and receive the 10.1

upgrade CD, the 9.2.1 update CD, the Developer Tools CD and a user guide
and 
electronic documentation. So, for 20 bucks you get the Developer Tools
but 
not the hard copy manual. Also available for download from Microsoft is
a 
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