Re: back to earlier mac os, how to? (long) 5300
What's everyone's opinion of RamDoubler for use in memory-challenged PBs? Later.Howard Computer n. A pocket calculator with a glandular problem. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: back to earlier mac os, how to? (long) 5300
Howard R. Katz wrote: What's everyone's opinion of RamDoubler for use in memory-challenged PBs? OS = 7.6, it's probably a good idea, since it's a better VM than VM. With 8 it's roughly a draw, and with 8.5+ it's useless, as Apple's VM is much improved by then. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: back to earlier mac os, how to? (long) 5300
Han, The 2400 won't boot of something as old as MacOS 7.5. The everymac.com states the baseline OS version is 7.6. Nor will the 7.5 Network disk boot a 5300. You need at least MacOS 7.5.2 to run a 5300. How much RAM does it have now? If it has enough to boot 8.6 it should have enough so you can do a serial transfer between the 6500's printer or modem port and the 5300's (single) printer/modem port. It's not quick but it should work (although I've never done it, it's the quickest, and probably slowest, way to network 2 Macs together). In fact, here's a site that describes it pretty well: http://www.atpm.com/network/setup/localtalk_serial.html You should have all the SW already installed on the Macs - you'll just need a serial cable for Macs (I don't think PC serial cables will work - the pin count is wrong as I recall, but I don't remember which is 9-pin and which is 8). Just connect the 6500 to the 5300, and copy the 19 disk images from the 6500 to the 5300. It will take a LONG while to do this, but it will work. You should be able to open the 1st disk image and install 7.5.3 from there. You might (I don't recall - I hope someone else chimes in verifying or correcting my instructions) have to unbless the current System folder first, by moving the Finder out of the System Folder. Then, install 7.5.3 and allow the Mac to reboot. It should reboot into 7.5.3. I am assuming in all this that the 5300 does not have ethernet ability, either through a PC Card or through one of the Focus video/ethernet built-in cards. If you have ethernet on both machines, use it instead. It is faster. The site I linked to above also has good info on ethernet connecting Macs. Regards, Bob Eye Dallas, TX We are fixing up the ol 5300 to lend to a friend this fall who can't afford to purchase a book for herself yet. The husband upgraded it to os 8.6, but it really doesn't have enough ram to support 8.6, and I can't find an affordable ram upgrade. I used to run 7.5.5 on it without a problem, so I thought we could just return it to 7.5.5. [snip] -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: back to earlier mac os, how to? (long) 5300
In a message dated 8/23/03 9:59:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The everymac.com states the baseline OS version is 7.6. Nor will the 7.5 Network disk boot a 5300. You need at least MacOS 7.5.2 to run a 5300. If possible, go for 7.6.1 on memory challenged 'books, and 8.1 with at least 48 MB. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: back to earlier mac os, how to? (long) 5300
I made a network access disk for PBs 5300 by installing the Network Software package onto a 7.6 System tools floppy. To ensure I would have enough room, I used the minimal Finder and Chooser from the Network Access Disk. BTW, this same procedure works to build a NAD for PBs 2400/3400 as well, you just need to ensure the 2400/3400 enabler is in place as those 'Books won't boot from an original 7.6 without it. Starting with a fresh 7.6 Disk Tools (DT) floppy image, drag that image file onto Disk Copy's (DC) icon while holding down the command key. DC will launch to the save-as dialog and prompt for name and what sort of image type, choose read/write and check the 'Mount Image' box, then create the disk image. Now mount the image files Network Access Disk (NAD) and Network Software Installer (NSI) by simply double-clicking them in the Finder. Go to the desktop and open the now-mounted read/write DT floppy. Trash Drive Setup and Disk FirstAid, along with the Finder and Chooser from the System Folder. Open the mounted NAD and copy the Finder and Chooser into their appropriate places in the Disk Tool's System Folder. Open the mounted NSI volume, launch the installer and point it to the DT's System Folder. Now to make the floppy disk itself . . . The easiest way to create the actual floppy disk is to drag the modified .img file onto DC's icon while holding down the option key, that tells DC you want to make a floppy with the disk image rather than simply mount the disk image. Alternatively, in DC go to - Utility: Make a Floppy, and point DC to the mounted DT volume as the source, then make the floppy disk. disk image sources: 1) Disk Tools floppy disk image links: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html 2) Network Access Disk: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/E nglish-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/Network_Access_Disk_7.5.sea.bin 3) Network SW installer: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/E nglish-North_American/Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Network_Software_ Installer/ZM-NSI_1.5.1.sea.bin Disk Copy 6.3.3: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/E nglish-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_6.3.3.smi.bin I'd like to be able to post a copy of this somewhere as an already-built disk, but I'd rather not run afoul of Apple's ever-vigilant legal-eagles. In any case, it's easy enough for most anyone to do. I have built-up 7.x disks that can use a PCcard ethernet card, and for the built-in enet in PBs 3400. Most of those driver resources are pretty small, so if the basic enet capability is there it usually fits. I know I also tried this with OS 8.x disks but cannot recall if I had any luck. Using 8.1 should allow one to install an OS to an HFS+ boot volume. IIRC the 8.5 floppy didn't have enough room. Any questions? Dan K . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
