Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
I had the same experience (no hard drive spin up, just clicking) when I inadvertently fried my old HD. I knew right away, tho, what the cause of the HD melt-down was--I forgot to install a SCSI terminator. This was easily, albeit a bit expensively, fixed. I would hold off on popping your new HD into your PBook and get the old one tested at your local shop--if it's dead, you need to find out why before you torch your new one; if it's not, you've eliminated one potential source for your problem. cheers, Don Silver = __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
Speaking of upgrades, isn't it true that you can upgrade a Duo280C to PowerPC? Anybody know what the procedure is, and where to get the upgrade? Also, I assumed from my lack of sound that there's probably a minor hardware problem (I'm betting a simple broken or disconnected wire) in my Duo. I took the screws out, but didn't feel like messing with trying to force the unit apart without being sure what I was doing. Can anybody tell me how to best get at this thing's innards? Ciao, Richard From: Dana Sibera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Subject: Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:22:32 +1000 I upgraded my Powerbook 520c with a PowerPC daughtercard. Everything worked perfectly. However I needed to go back to the old CPU to run an old app that snipped long stuff drive. I left it charging all night and it still happened this morning. I have a new hard drive I could test, but I'm wondering if the system is damaged in some way, if that could damage the new drive. Any ideas welcome! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
d. 17/10/01 21:13 skrev Richard Adams på [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Speaking of upgrades, isn't it true that you can upgrade a Duo280C to PowerPC? Anybody know what the procedure is, and where to get the upgrade? Also, I assumed from my lack of sound that there's probably a minor hardware problem (I'm betting a simple broken or disconnected wire) in my Duo. I took the screws out, but didn't feel like messing with trying to force the unit apart without being sure what I was doing. Can anybody tell me how to best get at this thing's innards? Ciao, Richard try to take a look at: http://w3.trib.com/~dwood/servicemanuals.html Magnus -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
Richard Adams on 10/17/01 2:13 PM wrote: Also, I assumed from my lack of sound that there's probably a minor hardware problem (I'm betting a simple broken or disconnected wire) in my Duo. I took the screws out, but didn't feel like messing with trying to force the unit apart without being sure what I was doing. Can anybody tell me how to best get at this thing's innards? It's very prudent of you to wait rather than force your 280c open. There are some small plastic eyelets that are very often broken off in the process of cracking open this or any Duo. They're right under your right palm, at the front, right, corner where the top and bottom meet. I would strongly recommend downloading a service manual for your Duo and follow the steps carefully. Unfortunately I don't have a link to follow. Pretty much all the Duos can be upgraded to a PPC by swapping out the logic board with that of a 2300. Everything else will match up. However you will need one of the high output AC adapters (36 watt rather than 25) and there may be an issue of heat if the stiffener/frame/chassis inside doesn't make good contact with the processor. With the PPC upgrade you can install a much larger, cheaper IDE drive (which will require an IDE ribbon cable). As to your sound problem, the speaker gets power from the same ribbon cable that goes to the LCD screen. Perhaps the connection at the speaker, or where the video cable connects to the logic board is not properly seated. Or it could be a software problem (sound out selection in control panel etc.). You may try to zap the PRAM and see if that resets any defaults related to sound. HTH, -makmac -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
Thanks, Magnus. Some of the links have led to dead ends, but I haven't tried 'em all yet. I appreciate the tip. Ciao, Richard From: Magnus Rohde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Subject: Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:26:25 +0200 d. 17/10/01 21:13 skrev Richard Adams på [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Speaking of upgrades, isn't it true that you can upgrade a Duo280C to PowerPC? Anybody know what the procedure is, and where to get the upgrade? Also, I assumed from my lack of sound that there's probably a minor hardware problem (I'm betting a simple broken or disconnected wire) in my Duo. I took the screws out, but didn't feel like messing with trying to force the unit apart without being sure what I was doing. Can anybody tell me how to best get at this thing's innards? Ciao, Richard try to take a look at: http://w3.trib.com/~dwood/servicemanuals.html Magnus -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
Thanks for the tips, I appreciate them. I thought the PPC upgrade was just a chip replacement, I don't know if I'll bother with it if it's a lot more involved (probably better for me to just get a 2300 or better on E-Bay at that point - then again, I wanted the Duo largely 'cause I drastically prefer trackballs over touchpads). It's handy to know that the same cable goes to the LCD and sound output - the display looks fine, so that cable is probably OK. I've only tried to get sound through the Control Panel alarms setting and the Jigsaw puzzle (and, of course, I don't have a start-up chime). AFAIK, the volume settings are all on and up to max. Thanks again for the help! Ciao, Richard From: makmac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Subject: Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:33:56 -0500 Richard Adams on 10/17/01 2:13 PM wrote: Also, I assumed from my lack of sound that there's probably a minor hardware problem (I'm betting a simple broken or disconnected wire) in my Duo. I took the screws out, but didn't feel like messing with trying to force the unit apart without being sure what I was doing. Can anybody tell me how to best get at this thing's innards? It's very prudent of you to wait rather than force your 280c open. There are some small plastic eyelets that are very often broken off in the process of cracking open this or any Duo. They're right under your right palm, at the front, right, corner where the top and bottom meet. I would strongly recommend downloading a service manual for your Duo and follow the steps carefully. Unfortunately I don't have a link to follow. Pretty much all the Duos can be upgraded to a PPC by swapping out the logic board with that of a 2300. Everything else will match up. However you will need one of the high output AC adapters (36 watt rather than 25) and there may be an issue of heat if the stiffener/frame/chassis inside doesn't make good contact with the processor. With the PPC upgrade you can install a much larger, cheaper IDE drive (which will require an IDE ribbon cable). As to your sound problem, the speaker gets power from the same ribbon cable that goes to the LCD screen. Perhaps the connection at the speaker, or where the video cable connects to the logic board is not properly seated. Or it could be a software problem (sound out selection in control panel etc.). You may try to zap the PRAM and see if that resets any defaults related to sound. HTH, -makmac -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
d. 17/10/01 22:45 skrev Richard Adams på [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, Magnus. Some of the links have led to dead ends, but I haven't tried 'em all yet. I appreciate the tip. Ciao, Richard Maybe one of these will work: ftp://ftphqx.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Misc/Service/servicemanuals/p owerbook_200_series.pdf or ftp://ftphqx.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Misc/Service/servicemanuals/p owerbook_2300_series.pdf Magnus -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
At 2:13 PM -0500 10/17/01, Richard Adams wrote: Speaking of upgrades, isn't it true that you can upgrade a Duo280C to PowerPC? Anybody know what the procedure is, and where to get the upgrade? It isn't a real upgrade, though. What you are doing is swapping the bottom of a 2300C for the 280C bottom. Motherboards are listed for $125 on ebay, so it probably is easier to buy a 2300C instead. Paul -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
From: Paul Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Subject: Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:52:31 -0700 At 2:13 PM -0500 10/17/01, Richard Adams wrote: Speaking of upgrades, isn't it true that you can upgrade a Duo280C to PowerPC? Anybody know what the procedure is, and where to get the upgrade? It isn't a real upgrade, though. What you are doing is swapping the bottom of a 2300C for the 280C bottom. Motherboards are listed for $125 on ebay, so it probably is easier to buy a 2300C instead. Paul Exactly as I suspected. Thanks for the input, Paul, I appreciate it. Ciao, Richard _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
Thanks, Magnus, I'll try them. I appreciate your help! Ciao, Richard From: Magnus Rohde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Subject: Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:17:53 +0200 d. 17/10/01 22:45 skrev Richard Adams på [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, Magnus. Some of the links have led to dead ends, but I haven't tried 'em all yet. I appreciate the tip. Ciao, Richard Maybe one of these will work: ftp://ftphqx.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Misc/Service/servicemanuals/p owerbook_200_series.pdf or ftp://ftphqx.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Misc/Service/servicemanuals/p owerbook_2300_series.pdf Magnus -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: weird problem with Powerbook 520
An idea is all I have! I had the same problem when I pulled my 540c apart to clean it (and to uhhh... poke around the insides cos I hadn't seen inside one before :D and when I'd clipped the memory back in, the tiny fine-pinned connector had one pin leaning over to the side and shorting with another. I used a pair of tweezers to straighten it, popped the memory in and all was fine again. be well :D dana I had the SAME experience with my 540: the double-sided pin bar of their RAM modules seems like a poor design, as the pins tend to embed too deeply into the plastic substrate, making poor or intermittent contact. I spent quite some time straightening and polishing the tiny wire contacts on mine, using a jeweller's loupe to see them properly, because I'd finally tracked my Sad Mac problems down to the RAM module. The RAM itself was fine, though. Hope that's all it is. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
