Zip problem
Does anybody know a way to extract information from a Zip 100 cartridge which refuses to mount? I have tried several drives and in each I get: Click... Click... Click... Click... would you like to initialize this disk? Norton 6 does not seem to see it unless there is a trick I don't know to force it! I would hate to think the information is in there but irretrievable. Don Wakefield - DTPetc! Desk Top Productions et cetera! ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
The click of death. I've had this a couple of times--getting the info off the cart is problematic. Also, don't continuously try this cart or it can ruin your zipdrive. Later.Howard Computer n. A pocket calculator with a glandular problem. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
Does anybody know a way to extract information from a Zip 100 cartridge which refuses to mount? I have tried several drives and in each I get: Click... Click... Click... Click... would you like to initialize this disk? Norton 6 does not seem to see it unless there is a trick I don't know to force it! I would hate to think the information is in there but irretrievable. Don Wakefield - DTPetc! Desk Top Productions et cetera! ___ The click is called 'the click of death'. However I have almost always been successful in reading these zip discs in another zip drive so if you have another zip drive or if a friend has one this is the easiest way to go. Of course once you read and retrieve the information from them it is best not to use them again. Aydin Yulug Ankara, Turkey -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
In a message dated 10/27/03 7:14:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have tried several drives and in each I get: Click... Click... Click... Click... would you like to initialize this disk? This is the dreaded click of death. Game over! -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
Has anyone tried to revive these disks by degaussing them? Would this solve the problem? In a message dated 10/27/03 7:14:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have tried several drives and in each I get: Click... Click... Click... Click... would you like to initialize this disk? -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
Has anyone tried to revive these disks by degaussing them? Would this solve the problem? This will wipe all data on the disk and it will have to be reformatted _ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
Yeah..that is the general idea. WOuld this solve the problem? In other words, Is this a physical defect with the disk or a corrupt file system on it that makes it unreadable? -Original Message- From: PowerBooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J Sand Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:33 AM To: PowerBooks Subject: Re: Zip problem Has anyone tried to revive these disks by degaussing them? Would this solve the problem? This will wipe all data on the disk and it will have to be reformatted _ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
I've heard some people having some luck reformatting, but from everything I've read, it's a physical defect and using the disk again can ruin the original drive and any other one you try the disk in. Later.Howard Computer n. A pocket calculator with a glandular problem. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
Yeah..that is the general idea. WOuld this solve the problem? In other words, Is this a physical defect with the disk or a corrupt file system on it that makes it unreadable? To: PowerBooks Subject: Re: Zip problem Has anyone tried to revive these disks by degaussing them? Would this solve the problem? I have to say, the degaussing thing made me laugh. No, that's not a problem. Is it just one cart of many you have, and the rest work? The click of death can be caused by many things, the click is just the drive head seeking and repositioning. Sometimes if a drive head has damaged the media (or if the media is otherwise damaged) putting the bad disk in a new drive, when the media has a resulting gouge or scrape or whatever that hits the head in the second drive, that drive too will be ruined. Or, it could just be a bad spot on the zip cart (magnetically) and the drive head is just moving around like it's supposed to when it loses its position, without damaging the second drive. The click of death, if you google, will point you to http://grc.com/tip/codfaq1.htm a good click of death summary page (among others). I have no idea about his testing software, the TIP one is free and I've used it, it just tells you how many bad blocks have been remapped by the Iomega software to give you an idea of how the disk is doing. If you run it one week, and the following week there are even more bad (yet mapped out) sectors, then you know you have a creeping zone of destruction (bad media) and you should just toss it. I *did* once see many months ago a very nice page w/ photos where an individual was able to repair clicking-but-non-head-crashed zip drives with a simple screw adjustment (IIRC) - similar to our PB1400 CD-ROM drives, some adjustment was wiggling looser over time. I could not find that particular page in 5 min of googling, but it might still be out there. The WayBackMachine has this link with photos http://web.archive.org/web/20010617020107/www.accesszone.com/clickdeath/ which at least shows you how to take it apart (there are likely plenty of other sites for this, too- but they seem harder to find, perhaps as Zip100's are getting rather dated and people who paid a lot for them new are dwindling in number. I suggest getting your Zip 100 drives for about $5-15 each if you can manage it. If you haven't heard this before, never ever put anything valuable on a ZIP disk as your sole copy- it's just NOT a very reliable media format. Luck, and don't give up on it yet. I would pop open the drive and see if it looks like the heads have crashed, if that is the case then give up (you might be able to determine *that* with just a penlight). Else, you might be able to repair the drive, or have simply one bad cart. Also, if you can put the drive on a PC, you have more options in the Iomega troubleshooting software than is provided in the old Mac versions, for testing/reporting condition/formatting vs testing etc. IIRC. HTH. Holler if something gets resolved. Brian -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip problem
Has anyone tried to revive these disks by degaussing them? Would this solve the problem? I have to say, the degaussing thing made me laugh. No, that's not a problem. Is it just one cart of many you have, and the rest work? I guess I should have said not a problem causing the CLICKS. If the grc.com web site is correct about the Z-tracks and positioning tracks- (and I would guess that he IS right) while even reformatting and even low-level utils can't touch these tracks without hardware features that consumer drives simply do not possess, it seems likely that they coud still be wiped out by dragging a magnet over the cart. If you do that, you're SOL with regards to using the cart again- there's not way to put that vital info back on. So, keep the degausser away :) B -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Syquest problem similar to Zip problem
I have a similar problem with my Syquest EZFlyer. Discs makes spinning noises but doesn't mount, then ejects the disc. Does anyone know of a site that offers possible fixes for this problem? Ted -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Syquest problem similar to Zip problem
somewhere near the temporal coordinates of 10/27/03 8:47 PM, the entity known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] transmitted the following from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a similar problem with my Syquest EZFlyer. Discs makes spinning noises but doesn't mount, then ejects the disc. Does anyone know of a site that offers possible fixes for this problem? Whenever I've had this problem, usually it was because the cart didn't seat properly. When you insert the cart, sometimes you have to keep a little pressure on it w/ your fingertip as it seats (I think of it as giving a little extra 'boost'). Sometimes using a different drive will help. But sometimes the cart is just bad and that's that. Good news is that, unlike the Zip drive's click-o-death, you won't ruin your EZFlyer drive with a bad cart. - Eric. -- Eric Strobel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = I'm searching for myself... If I get back before I return, please make sure I stay here. = -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
