Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
I think Internet Explorer is fine. It's quite a common browser and can easily handle large files. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
Get Mozilla 1.2.1 for OS9 at: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.2.1/mozilla-macos9-1.2.1-full.bin This downloads the compressed file, which you have to expand with Stuffit Expander. I got another version recently (1.3.1) which so far works well on my 9.2.2 at: http://www.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de/wamcom/20030723/wamcom-131-macos9-20030723.sit (The page I got this from is: http://wamcom.org/latest-131/ Greetings and success, Ge' -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
- Original Message - From: Dan K macdan - at - comcast.net snip In X I use both FireFox and Safari. I like Safari's look and feel better, but prefer Mozilla's FireFox for its flexibility and customizing options. I'd be interested to know if you can type 'about:config' as the url and get the full configuration options in the Apple version of FireFox. Bruce -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
On Feb 22, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Bruce wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan K macdan - at - comcast.net snip In X I use both FireFox and Safari. I like Safari's look and feel better, but prefer Mozilla's FireFox for its flexibility and customizing options. I'd be interested to know if you can type 'about:config' as the url and get the full configuration options in the Apple version of FireFox. Bruce Yes. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
I have had trouble with Mozilla. It seems like there are so many versions around and I am not sure what one to get. I run OS 9.2.2 (on one machine) and OS 8.1 (on the other). I am not very savvy regarding programming/construction. I am just looking for a simple one package download, hit the button install, good to run version of Mozilla. The sites I go to indicate that I need to download a number of files and construct my browser...where can I go? -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
Joseph, Cliff, et all PB Listas Hi!, it's been another long while... PowerBooks wrote: PowerBooks Digest #2029 From: JosephC22 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:00:26 EST Subject: Re: better browser for OS9.2.2 Cliff Rediger on 2/20/05 4:12 PM wrote: Funny. No one mentions Opera. I wonder if Opera is defunct. Opera is still out there, but the latest version (v7) only supports OS X. You need to use version 6 if you want to run MacOS 8/9. snip Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:12:18 -0800 From: Cliff Rediger Subject: Re: better browser for OS9.2.2 snip I have vs5. Wonder where to get 6.0 ? Looked at Opera's site, and like so many others older versions are either unavailable or buried somewhere. You should be able to get Opera version 6.03 here: ftp://ftp.ring.gr.jp/pub/net/www/opera/mac/603/en/om_en_6.03.smi.sit I've just recently downloaded, but haven't install/tested yet, so do Please let us know how the application works out on flavors of OS9 for you. TIA HTHs via condios Respectful of GURUs Bill Cornett cornett AT gol DOT com It might look like I'm doing nothing. . . . but at the cellular level I'm really quite busy.-ukn There are three kinds of men: Those who learn by reading. Those who learn by observation. And those who just have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. -ukn / -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
Under classic Mac OS I used Netscape Navigator 4.08 until it simply could no longer connect to the sites I use most (bank, PayPal, eBay, etc.) I used icab and Nav 408 together for a bit before discovering the wamcom Mozilla port. http://wamcom.org/latest-131/ I've yet to discover anything to stop it, and it's fast and stable. Lately, it's the browser I've been pushing on customers, friends and family. So far so good . . . In X I use both FireFox and Safari. I like Safari's look and feel better, but prefer Mozilla's FireFox for its flexibility and customizing options. dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
Cliff Rediger [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2/20/05 4:12 PM wrote: Funny. No one mentions Opera. I wonder if Opera is defunct. Opera is still out there, but the latest version (v7) only supports OS X. You need to use version 6 if you want to run MacOS 8/9. Coincidentally, Opera was in the news a week or two ago. Opera's CTO wrote an editorial in The Register that challenged some of Microsoft's recent claims about internet browser standards and interoperability compliance. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/11/hakon_on_ms_interroperability/ -j -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
I like Mozilla 1.0.2. In Explorer, I have had problems with Paypal, ebay, .Mac. In Mozilla I do not have any of those problems. I also use it in OS X. I think it tops off Safari and Explorer by far. That's just my two cents. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
At 6:00 PM -0500 2/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opera is still out there, but the latest version (v7) only supports OS X. You need to use version 6 if you want to run MacOS 8/9. I have vs5. Wonder where to get 6.0 ? Looked at Opera's site, and like so many others older versions are either unavailable or buried somewhere. Coincidentally, Opera was in the news a week or two ago. Opera's CTO wrote an editorial in The Register that challenged some of Microsoft's recent claims about internet browser standards and interoperability compliance. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/11/hakon_on_ms_interroperability/ Wow. Sure a lot more to it than I ever imagined or could want or hope to learn. Thank you for your response. Cliff -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
martin on 2/18/05 4:12 PM wrote: If I were to adopt a new browser, which one would be an intelligent choice? Keeping in mind that I plan to run my Powerbook into the ground, running OS9.2.2. My older 'books run System 7.1, so I assume their Internet lifespan is severely limited. Hi Martin, You might also try the Opera browser. Opera 6 is the last version that works under OS8/9. I actually like iCab a little better than Opera, but Opera seems to be more stable on my machines and gives reasonable performance. http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=macver=6.03 For System 7, maybe you should give Apple's old Cyberdog a try. (Some days I feel like an old cyberdog, myself :-) -Joe -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
Funny. No one mentions Opera. I wonder if Opera is defunct. I've been using IE in 9.1 on a 3400 but on basis of this thread have returned to iCab which I like much better except for some of those weird pages. Is there a fix for that? For awhile Opera was the only browser with which I could access my checking account. Cliff -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
Hi list creatures, I tried tonight to make a reservation on BC Ferries (up here in Victoria BC Canada), and their website shunted me to a page which tersely informed me that Internet Explorer for Mac won't work on their site, due to a known bug etc. I recall that Microsoft stopped work on IE for Macs in 2003, because Apple was pushing Safari ( and wouldn't share MacOS code ); they also stopped developing IE as a standalone program for Windows, instead planning to integrate it into their OS ( again! ). . . BC ferries' page suggested I use Safari, Mozilla, or Netscape instead. Now, I've been happy with IE, find it much smoother than Netscape (which I used for years), or at least compatible with more sites. I've accumulated hundreds of bookmarks (ie Favorites), and umm, I'm USED to it. I can run earlier versions on my earlier Powerbooks (when I have time to spare), which saves me learning a new protocol/set of commands. If I were to adopt a new browser, which one would be an intelligent choice? Keeping in mind that I plan to run my Powerbook into the ground, running OS9.2.2. My older 'books run System 7.1, so I assume their Internet lifespan is severely limited. Safari requires OSX, as far as I know. I'm not sure Netscape is still evolving. Has it improved in the last few years? Mozilla seems to be a work in progress. I'm open to all suggestions, and just want something reliable and easy to use, like I have now. Input from list members who've been down this path, would be valuable and appreciated. Particularly if the information is current :) Many thanks. m PS please clip this wordy passage before responding, or at least respond ABOVE it, to save us all some scrolling time. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
Hi, on 9.2.2 there are not too much choces. AFAIK there are Internet Explorer 5.x Netscape 7 iCab 2.x Explorer is already out. So try the other ones. iCab you can find at www.icab.de. There should be a free version and iCab is the only one for OS Classic which is still under development. -- +---+ | () Gruesse/regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | /\ Manfred Guentnerwww.serv.de.eu.org | +---+ -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
On Friday, February 18, 2005, at 01:06 AM, martin wrote: Safari requires OSX, as far as I know. Strictly I'm not sure Netscape is still evolving. Has it improved in the last few years? Mozilla seems to be a work in progress. Mozilla/Netscape (they're the same code base) has been a good stable browser since about version 0.8 (which was Netscape 6.2) It's vastly improved over the old 4.x versions of Netscape. The last version running on OS 9, Mozilla 1.2 (iirc) was quite stable for me, so long as I fed it enough memory. IIRC I gave it like 48 megs. There's a build of Mozilla 1.3.1 called Wamcom that is also nice, though it's oddly slow in places; but it's based on a later version of Mozilla that offers a lot of goodies. Why not upgrade to OS X? Firefox and Safari are VERY good on it. -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Manfred wrote: Hi, on 9.2.2 there are not too much choces. AFAIK there are Internet Explorer 5.x Netscape 7 iCab 2.x Explorer is already out. So try the other ones. iCab you can find at www.icab.de. There should be a free version and iCab is the only one for OS Classic which is still under development. I recommend WaMCom 1.3.1: http://wamcom.org/latest-131/ - Nate -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
FYI We use iCab for day-to-day, IE for Java-script sites, and Mozilla 1.2.? for awkward stuff like PayPal and web-banking. On a 3400/240/9.1 and a Lombard/400/9.2 Moz is slow on both, but works. Ben -- The VidaVerde Seed Collection 14 Southdown Avenue, Lewes East Sussex, BN7 1EL Excellent Vegetables For the Kitchen Garden: Illustrated Catalogue at http://www.realseeds.co.uk Or call 01239 821107 for a paper copy. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
OSX contains a 9.2.2 operating system that probably will allow you to continue to use your old software. I use both interchangeably and so far, except for my printer driver, everything works on OSX and it switches automatically to 9.2.2 to use classic software. The change is almost imperceptible and immediate to the user. However, check your printer driver to make sure that there is one for OSX first. It is a nuisance when the printer (Epson CX5400) doesn't work on OSX. If you try OSX, I don't think you will be disappointed. Dan in AZ From: martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: PowerBooks powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:44:45 -0800 To: PowerBooks powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: better browser for OS9.2.2 Your suggestion that I upgrade to OSX is well taken, Bruce. However, I've been upgrading hardware, Operating Systems, and software constantly since 1987. Working in the graphics/design field, I use the following apps almost every day: Photoshop, InDesign, Freehand (and Illustrator), Pagemaker (and Quark Xpress), Vectorworks, ClarisCAD (still rocks!), UpFront, DesignWorkshop, Acrobat and many more, all in OS9.2.2. Some of these aren't even available for OSX, some run only in Classic Mode (sorta like running Windows 3.1 over DOS I reckon), and a few of the apps I rely on are now orphaned/abandoned, yet I'd be lost without them. When OSX came along shortly after I invested in my G4, I dug in my heels: this new OS would require me to upgrade virtually everything,... -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
On Feb 18, 2005, at 1:44 PM, martin wrote: Photoshop, InDesign, Freehand (and Illustrator), Native Pagemaker Indesign CS has a Pagemaker module. (and Quark Xpress), Native Vectorworks, Native iirc ClarisCAD (still rocks!), UpFront, DesignWorkshop, All work fine in Classic Acrobat and many more, all in OS9.2.2. Some of these aren't even available for OSX, some run only in Classic Mode (sorta like running Windows 3.1 over DOS I reckon), Hardly. It's like running a OS 9 app on your mac. and a few of the apps I rely on are now orphaned/abandoned, yet I'd be lost without them. So continue to run them. This http://oscar.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/howcompatible.jpg shows Shufflepuck Cafe, an ancient Broderbund game running under 10.2.8... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
--- The Real Seed Catalogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI We use iCab for day-to-day, IE for Java-script sites, and Mozilla 1.2.? for awkward stuff like PayPal and web-banking. On a 3400/240/9.1 and a Lombard/400/9.2 Moz is slow on both, but works. Basically same here. On my 3400/180/9.1 I use iCab for everything except certain sites that rely on CSS for functionality. I don't mind it looking a bit ugly like iCab 2.9.8 does to CSS if it is still functional. I just have iCab mimic IE javascript when necessary rather than using IE, though I do use Wamcom Mozilla 1.3.1 for downloading large files. It downloads faster than iCab, almost twice as fast it appears... no scientific data to throw out there. On my iMacs I use Safari 95% of the time and Firefox if something doesn't work, which has only happened a couple times that I recall. I keep a copy of IE on my computer for installing plug-ins that only install into IE then just drag them to the plug-in folder in iCab or Safari. Matt aka HamletUSMC www.geocities.com/hamletusmc/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Subject: Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
I use iCab and Mozilla with OS 9.1 on a PB1400. iCab does not have a mail application. I can not get my book marks into Mozilla from iCab so use iCab for web sites and Mozilla for mail. On the old G4 desktop, I use OS 10.3.8 for Safari and Mail then boot into OS 9.2.2 for using all of the old software. You will like Safari and Mail. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: better browser for OS9.2.2
--- martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your suggestion that I upgrade to OSX is well taken, Bruce. However, I've been upgrading hardware, Operating Systems, and software constantly since 1987. Working in the graphics/design field, I use the following apps almost every day: Photoshop, InDesign, Freehand (and Illustrator), Pagemaker (and Quark Xpress), Vectorworks, ClarisCAD (still rocks!), UpFront, DesignWorkshop, Acrobat and many more, all in OS9.2.2. Some of these aren't even available for OSX, some run only in Classic Mode (sorta like running Windows 3.1 over DOS I reckon), and a few of the apps I rely on are now orphaned/abandoned, yet I'd be lost without them. ::chuckles:: I am pre-press for a four-color print shop and I do a littlevery little... design work on the side. At work I have all the newest software, though I also have my own collection of software at home that I personally own. Due to the fact that I don't do very much with my on the side business I find it hard to justify spending money upgrading my personal set of software and my morals won't let me take the software from work. So on my computers at home I use Illustrator 6.02, Photoshop 5.5, InDesign 1.52, Freehand 8.01b, Dimensions 2.0, ImageStyler 1.0, PageMill 3.0 and BBEdit Lite 4.6. I use these on my Powerbook 3400 in 9.1 and my Bondi iMac in 10.3.8 and all of them work just fine in Classic. In fact out of all the graphic software that you mentioned the only one that has a little quirk working in Classic is Quark. In Quark 4.0-4.11 the screen redraws are a bit screwy, but just hitting the windowpane thing twice fixes that. As far as PageMaker ::holds up a cross to ward away evil:: open them in InDesign and never look back. PageMaker files are the Debil! ---Waterboy quote ;D The best part of running in Classic rather than actually in 9.1-9.2.2 is when an application crashes your computer doesn't. Sure sometimes it will take out classic but you will find the longer you are in X the more you will prefer native X applications so you can take advantage of the multi-tasking capabilities. In Classic the Print Manager prints documents one at a time no matter whether you are printing to different printers or not. With X native applications I've had files ripping to my Quicksetter and printing to my laserprinter at the *exact* same time while I also had Virtual PC running CorelDraw 10 and Publisher in XP and Photoshop CS, InDesign Cs, Illustrator CS, Freehand 10, Quark 6.1, Acrobat 5 (Acrobat 6 is slower than hell), Acrobat Distiller 6.1, iTunes and Safari open in X. Try doing that with a computer running in 9.1-9.2.2. The RAM requirements of all those applications alone would kill almost every computer. X apps release the almost all their RAM when they are not actively performing a task Classic apps always keep whatever you have assigned to them even if they are doing nothing and usually don't release it cleanly when you quit an application anyways usually forcing a restart after opening and closing several applications. As someone who spends 8-12 hours a day on a computer doing pre-press the benefits of X, more specifically Panther increase my productivity immensely. Before X I used to lose half a day at least once a week from getting some screwed up file or font from a customer that took down my system. Now the only files that give me hell are InDesign files that used to be Quark files with Illustrator EPS's embedded. I've NEVER had a problem with a native InDesign file. just my two cents... Matt aka HamletUSMC www.geocities.com/hamletusmc/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
