Re(2): Draft send twice

[Zach Selland]

I just tested this and am seeing the same thing. However, if you manually
change the outgoing message from waiting to draft before changing the
account, it does not cause the behavior. It seems that PM is not
correctly deleting the original outgoing email only when invoking the
"duplicate or change as draft" dialog. Seems that it would be an easy bug
to fix. And for now the workaround seems to be to change the status from
waiting to draft before editing the email.

Cheers,
Zach

-- 
Zach Selland
Taylor Design Group
Portland, OR
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.taylordesigngroup.com

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003, Barbara Needham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I am glad you asked because it caused me to investigate, and I had not
>remembered that it was discussed before. I have some additional
>information. When I hit send on the first mail it goes into the
>"temporary outgoing" folder under Power Mail Files. when I change the
>account and the outgoing mail becomes a draft again, and then I hit
>"Send", the item in the outbox changes to reflect that my outgoing mail
>has changed. However, in the Temporary Outgoing folder there are now two
>files.

Re(2): Draft send twice

[Barbara Needham]

I am glad you asked because it caused me to investigate, and I had not
remembered that it was discussed before. I have some additional
information. When I hit send on the first mail it goes into the
"temporary outgoing" folder under Power Mail Files. when I change the
account and the outgoing mail becomes a draft again, and then I hit
"Send", the item in the outbox changes to reflect that my outgoing mail
has changed. However, in the Temporary Outgoing folder there are now two
files.

Juergen Schindler on 11/13/03 said

>Thanks to Christian and Barbara,
>
>I am sorry that I didn't noticed that this topic was already dicussed
>recently.
>
>Anyway it's exactly this kind of problem that Barbara reported either.
>And I am usig the latest PM version, too (combined with OS 9.2.2 and X.2.8)
>
>So, perhaps Jérôme could have a closer look to this issue. I send him a
>copy of this message.
>
>greetings
>
>Juergen
>
>
>>Subject: Re: Draft send twice
>>From: "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:59:12 -0800
>>
>>Christian Roth on 11/12/03 said
>>
>>>Juergen Schindler [Mi, 12. Nov 2003]:
>>>
First I wrote a message, told PM to send it with e.g. A-account and
queued the mail. But before connecting to the net I decided to send it
with B-account. I opened the message again, changed the account and I
queued it again.

But PM sends the message twice!!! To the A-account smtp server and to the
B-account server. This is certainly reproducible.

Has anyone seen this behavior, too?
>>>
>>>Yes, I reported this to CTM several months ago, and it was just recently
>>>brought up by Mikael Byström on this list again. At the time I reported
>>>this issue, CTM was not able to reproduce it (and therefore fix it). But
>>>since we are at least three now, maybe they'll have a look at it again.
>>
>>I can duplicate this. I don't even have two different stmp servers, but
>>have two accounts. Here are my steps: compose a message. Hit Send.
>>Message is now in outbox.
>>Open the message. Change the account in the window in the upper right
>>hand of the message window. [via the drop down arrow]. You will be asked
>>whether to duplicate or to change as draft. Choose change as draft. Then
>>hit send again.
>>Connect to internet [I am on dialup]. Send message [I used the "command -
>>" option]. The message will go out twice. [in my case as two separate
>events.]
>>
>>I am using PM 4.1.3 so possibly it could be fixed in the new one?
>>--
>>Barbara Needham
>
>
>

--
Barbara Needham

Re: reliable free POP?

[Mirko Kranenburg]

macmail is good, but I think you need to supply your own smtp
server/provider.

So what about using hotpop to send and using macmail for the rest?
www.macmail.com

Mirko

Mikael Byström said:
> Any suggestions for free POPmail without problems, while I'm struggling
> to get my own server online? Hotpop seem to always throw 5-600 messages
> 2-5 weeks too late and it's not useful. Good they just don't disappear
> (well, I hope). To be fair, messages seem to be sent reliably.
>
> I'm not willing to pay for it as I will run all my accounts later on my
> own server.
>
> PM 4.2.1 | OS X 10.2.6 | Powerbook G3/266 | 128 MB RAM | 20 GB HD
>
>
>
>
>

--
Mirko Kranenburg
Maastricht, Netherlands
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OS X 10.2.6, QuickSilver 733, 1Gb RAM
Freeway Pro 3.5, NavPak, GraphPak
PowerMail 4.1.3, 3 panes
the whole MarinerPak

Request: Search for word in filters

[Max Gossell]

I've now so many mail filters activated, I'm starting to loose the
overview. If I need to edit one of them, it takes me 5 minutes to find
the right one if I don't remember its exact name. 

Would it be possible to get some simple search function here as well?

Max G

Re: reliable free POP?

[Max Gossell]

At Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:00:06 +0100 (CET), Mikael Byström  wrote:

>Any suggestions for free POPmail without problems, while I'm struggling
>to get my own server online? Hotpop seem to always throw 5-600 messages
>2-5 weeks too late and it's not useful. Good they just don't disappear
>(well, I hope). To be fair, messages seem to be sent reliably.
>
>I'm not willing to pay for it as I will run all my accounts later on my
>own server.

An extremely good and reliable free POPmail service is found at .

Or, directly at:



A German service, and you'll need to be able to struggle through the
German application form. Also, you need a valid German address (any valid
address will do -- I searched the web for "Hotel + Germany"..). I've used
this service for a year, and it's very fast and reliable (more than 15
million accounts) PLUS you don't get any spam mail at all! Well, they do
"spam" you yourself -- you can expect half a dozen German offers from GMX
themselves each month (!) but that's it. No lines added to your messages
or anything. I have 3 different GMX accounts which have never been
publicly exposed, and I have yet not received one single spam mail on any
of them!!

Before this, I tried HotPOP, Hotmail, Yahoo and a dozen other free
services. They are all completely worthless in comparison. The GMX speed
and reliability is always 100%. Guess it has to do with that famous
"German Efficiency"...  :-)

Anyhow, this is the only free POP service I can recommend without hesitation.

Max G

Re(2): Draft send twice

[Juergen Schindler]

Thanks to Christian and Barbara,

I am sorry that I didn't noticed that this topic was already dicussed
recently.

Anyway it's exactly this kind of problem that Barbara reported either.
And I am usig the latest PM version, too (combined with OS 9.2.2 and X.2.8)

So, perhaps Jérôme could have a closer look to this issue. I send him a
copy of this message.

greetings

Juergen

>Subject: Re: Draft send twice
>From: "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:59:12 -0800
>
>Christian Roth on 11/12/03 said
>
>>Juergen Schindler [Mi, 12. Nov 2003]:
>>
>>>First I wrote a message, told PM to send it with e.g. A-account and
>>>queued the mail. But before connecting to the net I decided to send it
>>>with B-account. I opened the message again, changed the account and I
>>>queued it again.
>>>
>>>But PM sends the message twice!!! To the A-account smtp server and to the
>>>B-account server. This is certainly reproducible.
>>>
>>>Has anyone seen this behavior, too?
>>
>>Yes, I reported this to CTM several months ago, and it was just recently
>>brought up by Mikael Byström on this list again. At the time I reported
>>this issue, CTM was not able to reproduce it (and therefore fix it). But
>>since we are at least three now, maybe they'll have a look at it again.
>
>I can duplicate this. I don't even have two different stmp servers, but
>have two accounts. Here are my steps: compose a message. Hit Send.
>Message is now in outbox.
>Open the message. Change the account in the window in the upper right
>hand of the message window. [via the drop down arrow]. You will be asked
>whether to duplicate or to change as draft. Choose change as draft. Then
>hit send again.
>Connect to internet [I am on dialup]. Send message [I used the "command -
>" option]. The message will go out twice. [in my case as two separate
events.]
>
>I am using PM 4.1.3 so possibly it could be fixed in the new one?
>--
>Barbara Needham

Re: reliable free POP?

[david.gordon]

Mikael Byström wrote on Wed 12 Nov 2003 at 23:00 +0100

>Any suggestions for free POPmail without problems

If you meet their criteria DSVR will give you a 'free' server to try.



--
david.gordon

Re: reliable free POP?

[Ben Kennedy]

On 12 11 2003 at 5:00 pm -0500, Mikael Byström wrote:

>Any suggestions for free POPmail without problems
[...]
>I'm not willing to pay for it as I will run all my accounts later on my
>own server.

If you're serious about the integrity of your mail, you would be naïve to
disbelieve that you get what you pay for.

-ben

--
Ben Kennedy, chief magician
zygoat creative technical services
613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628
http://www.zygoat.ca

reliable free POP?

[Mikael Bystr]

Any suggestions for free POPmail without problems, while I'm struggling
to get my own server online? Hotpop seem to always throw 5-600 messages
2-5 weeks too late and it's not useful. Good they just don't disappear
(well, I hope). To be fair, messages seem to be sent reliably.

I'm not willing to pay for it as I will run all my accounts later on my
own server.

PM 4.2.1 | OS X 10.2.6 | Powerbook G3/266 | 128 MB RAM | 20 GB HD