freezing Powermail with IMAP

2004-03-08 Thread listes

I get a systematic freeze with a very peculiar kind of spams when trying
an IMAP connexion. It happens with almost empty spams, that have no
title nor contents apparently, only a minimal header (I put one such
spam header at the bottom of this email, you will see even part of its
header has to be reconstituted).

When downloading my mail via the ordinary POP way, such spams are
correctly filtered out by SpamSieve and displaced in a spam folder,
which I empty before reconnecting. Because I did set that account to
erase from the server the messages that I did erase locally, usually
Powermail does erase the spam from my POP server, leaving there only the
good messages. Alas such a behavior doesn't work for the almost empty
spams: presumably there is not enough info in them for Powermail to
issue the necessary POP command.

So, I think: 'I'll connect the IMAP way, to click on them and ask
delete/expunge'
This also will usually work perfectly, without downloading anything else
than the message headers.
Well, it is there I crash Powermail.
After the usual series of messages (inspecting inbox...) I get in the
end a dialog box saying there has been a problem in sending the
appropriate command, and generally even before I click OK I get the
colored spin ball forever.
I must say, when I kill PM and restart, I don't have any problem with
the local database and nothing is lost, but the only way I found up to
now to erase such an empty message is to log on in the webmail, and
delete it there, from an html navigator.

I would understand that PM lacks the necessary data to issue commands,
wether in a POP or an IMAP connection, but I find it quite shocking that
it dies this way. It is very had to demonstrate imap connections when
your software may die because of a spam :-/

Herve

Here is the header I recuperated from the last such spam, by asking
show full header (once POP-downloaded):

-- RFC822 header  --
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from [218.65.58.38] (218.65.58.38) by mx.laposte.net (7.0.024)
id 4036D31A004F69D5; Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:40:55 +0100
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (derived from envelope by
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:40:55 +0100 (added by [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (added by
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
---

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Re: Burst Digests

2004-03-08 Thread H.R. Riggs

I'm using 10.2.8.

Andy Fragen wrote on 3/7/04:

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
If all works fine you could just comment out the on error statement that
generates that dialog in the Burst Digests script.

BTW, what OS are you using?

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Sun, Mar 7, 2004, H.R. Riggs said:


All that is OK; I still get the error. Interestingly, if I quit PowerMail
and restart it, it seems to work fine. But occasionally this problem
resurfaces.

Ron

Andy Fragen wrote on 3/6/04:


That particular dialog comes up  if the scripts can't load correctly. The
Burst folder must contain the Burst Malformed Digest, Burst Yahoo
Digest, and Clean eList Messages scripts and the Burst folder must
be inside your PowerMail Scripts folder that is inside your user
folder. The user folder is a variable that is designated by PowerMail. If
any of these folders or scripts are not named as they were originally or
are in the wrong place you will see the error.

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Sat, Mar 6, 2004, H.R. Riggs said:


I use the Burst Digests script, and lately I've been getting a weird
message. It says something like There was a problem finding the scripts.
Please ensure that the Burst Digests folder is in the ... As far as I
can tell, it's in there, and the funny thing is, the script still works.
Anybody have any ideas?

TIA.

Ron















Re: Can't see pasted documents

2004-03-08 Thread Max Gossell

At Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:10:54 -0500 (CET), Ed Ver Hoef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When someone appears to have pasted text (e.g., quoting an email they
received) into an email they sent to me, I cannot see the pasted
material. If, however, I select the Reply to Sender button, the window
that opens shows the pasted material. I'm sure that's not the way I shoud
have to see this material but I'm at a loss. I would think it owuld be
shown automatically when I read the initial email. Any advice?

Ed Ver Hoef

I'm not sure if this is it, but go to Preferences / HTML Reader and check
Enable HTML reader. If the emails you get are from mail clients that
supports HTML text, this might be the solution.

Max Gossell 




Can't see pasted documents

2004-03-08 Thread Ed Ver Hoef

When someone appears to have pasted text (e.g., quoting an email they
received) into an email they sent to me, I cannot see the pasted
material. If, however, I select the Reply to Sender button, the window
that opens shows the pasted material. I'm sure that's not the way I shoud
have to see this material but I'm at a loss. I would think it owuld be
shown automatically when I read the initial email. Any advice?

Ed Ver Hoef




Re(2): Droplet?

2004-03-08 Thread Mark Smith

At 7:28 PM on Fri, Mar 5, 2004, Max Gossell wrote:

At Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:10:02 -0600 (CET), Kathleen Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is the item Send with PowerMail Droplet?  How does it work?  When
is it used?

Kahleen Lewis

Drag and drop any file on it, and PowerMail will open with a new send
window, with that file as an attachment.

You get the same result if you drop a file on the PowerMail icon, though,
so I don't really get why there is a special droplet as well...

Dragging a file onto the PowerMail only creates a new send window if you
drag ONE file onto the PM icon. If you drag TWO (or more) files onto the
icon, it creates TWO (or more) send windows, each with one of the files. 

However, the droplet works as expected. It creates ONE send window for
all the files that were dragged onto it.
-- 
Mark Smith, Osaka, Japan.
The Grampalogue: For Nagoya Grampus Eight News  Views.
http://www2.odn.ne.jp/rockdiver/grampalog/index.html




Re: Burst Digests

2004-03-08 Thread H.R. Riggs

All that is OK; I still get the error. Interestingly, if I quit PowerMail
and restart it, it seems to work fine. But occasionally this problem
resurfaces.

Ron

Andy Fragen wrote on 3/6/04:

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
That particular dialog comes up  if the scripts can't load correctly. The
Burst folder must contain the Burst Malformed Digest, Burst Yahoo
Digest, and Clean eList Messages scripts and the Burst folder must
be inside your PowerMail Scripts folder that is inside your user
folder. The user folder is a variable that is designated by PowerMail. If
any of these folders or scripts are not named as they were originally or
are in the wrong place you will see the error.

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Sat, Mar 6, 2004, H.R. Riggs said:


I use the Burst Digests script, and lately I've been getting a weird
message. It says something like There was a problem finding the scripts.
Please ensure that the Burst Digests folder is in the ... As far as I
can tell, it's in there, and the funny thing is, the script still works.
Anybody have any ideas?

TIA.

Ron









Re: Carbon vs Coaco

2004-03-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music

smelik / 04.3.8 / 6:26 PM wrote:

For Semitic languages you select a Semitic keyboard and you write from
right to left, which PM does not support (OSX does).

Oh, I see.  This is very interesting.
Japanese traditionally writes right to left vertically.  Of course it is
much more comfortable that way for me, but it is not widely supported.  I
actually don't know any emailer supports it.

I don't think it is such that OS supports.  Japanese traditional writing
direction has been supported since Aldus Pagemaker and M$Word, but they
make you pay for the localized version.  In another word, English version
doesn't fully support the unconventional writing direction.  Manufactures
sees it as a feature to sell.  This is different from graphic oriented
app like Photoshop, y'know.

Here is the question I am now very interested in.
How do you encode HTML in Semitic?  Do you code from right to left, and
how?  Japanese certainly can not do this.  We are stuck with left to right.

-- 

- Hiro

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Re(2): Carbon vs Coaco

2004-03-08 Thread smelik

I have no knowledge about the languages you mentioned, but OSX is a true
UTF-8/16 compliant, so is PM.  I have no problem with Asian languages
even when I disable all but English in PM.  Please elaborate.

For Semitic languages you select a Semitic keyboard and you write from
right to left, which PM does not support (OSX does). Mail supports it,
but needless to add, it's no match for PM. I do not know whether this is
a Carbon issue, as I pointed out earlier, but I was led to believe so by
a response from the developers of PM (which is in an archive I don't have
with me, as I am abroad). 

The responses by Ben and Lane made clear to me what the Carbon/Cocoa
issue is, but my question still stands (since Lane seemed to suggest that
Carbon would be able to support Semitic languages).

Of course, this kind of support only began in 10.2 anyway, it was one of
the areas Apple neglected (while many semitists had chosen Apple because
it was the first to support these languages). It is therefore still
possible that the answer I was given by the PM folks is correct, and that
it is a Carbon issue, but I cannot answer this with any certainty.

Willem