Re: Importing IMAP into PM

[Barbara Needham]

Lally Singh on 8/5/04 said

>Hey all.
>
>  I'm experimenting with the idea of moving all my .mac messages into
>powermail and dumping imap as a whole.  However, it's got some
>important stuff in there, and I'd like to save it (registration keys,
>etc).  Most of the messages haven't been fully retrieved.  Is there an
>easy way to get PM to retrieve the full message bodies and attachments
>for my various folders-full-of-stuff in my IMAP account?


If all your mail is still on the .mac server,
change to pop for retrieving from .mac mail, IN Power Mail. If you are a
bit worried about losing something, leave messages on the server for a
few days until you can check you have it all. Your filter will sort the
.mac mail into the appropriate folders. Of course, not the IMAP folders,
you have to make new folders to sort into. Mine still aren't adjusted
quite right.

Alternatively [and I have done this both ways], use the Mail application
to get all of your .mac mail "on my computer" either deleting from the
server or leaving it on the server. Leaving it on the server actually
results in what looks like two copies of the mail, one the local cache
which is a reflection of what is on the server, and the other the one
that is actually ON your computer. Then, you can IMPORT the local folders
into PowerMail. Mailbox by mailbox, if you like.

PowerMail is really tolerant of this sort of thing. I was surprised how
easy it was to go back and forth. People say that they don't like to use
pop because it strips the server; but with PM it is very easy to leave
your messages on the server for a short or long time.
-- 
Barbara Needham

Importing IMAP into PM

[Lally Singh]

Hey all.

  I'm experimenting with the idea of moving all my .mac messages into
powermail and dumping imap as a whole.  However, it's got some
important stuff in there, and I'd like to save it (registration keys,
etc).  Most of the messages haven't been fully retrieved.  Is there an
easy way to get PM to retrieve the full message bodies and attachments
for my various folders-full-of-stuff in my IMAP account?

  Thanks!
-ls

-- 
Evil will win because good is dumb.

Re(4): MailSword spam

[Marlyse Comte]

I had noticed the same - but I do not think this is a setting which PM
can change, only the original MailSword user.

If I understand the cycle correctly, what happens is that somebody (A)
writes to the list and the list server sends out that message to all
users, including the MailSword user (B) and then, as the message poster
name (A) shows up as the FROM, the MailSword user's software (B) will
'bounce' the message from the list server to the original FROM person (A)
and thus you get only your own postings to the list back with the request
to send that code.

---marlyse

 former message(s) quotes: -

>Jean Michel
>
>Thank you.
>
>It seems that something is configured strangely on the list. I appeared
>that I got the Mailsword messages only in response to the mails that I
>posted to the list--as if someone could use the mailing list software to
>correspond to me personally. Of course, I can't be sure of this, but what
>I observed was that I got 3 emails that corresponded to my 3 most recent
>postings, and not for anyone else's (many 10's or 100's of) postings in
>the last few weeks.
>
>I suggest you look into whether there is a setting on your list software
>that needs to be changed to protect us from idiots like this list member.
>
>A
>
>==
>
>PowerMail info at Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:26:04 +0200 said:
>
>>Mikael,
>>
>>On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:04:13 +0200, Mikael Byström >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm reporting all Mailsword responses not from an individual I have
>>>mailed as Spam to Spamcop.net.
>>>I suggest you guys do the same, so that Mailsword get the attention that
>>>their service can be abused unintentionally to create spam. Hardly
>>>*their* intention.
>>>
>>>PM 5.0.1 | OS X 10.3.4 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD
>>
>>Incidentally, we have manually removed [EMAIL PROTECTED] from our
>>listserv (it took several tries, but the address is now really off).
>>
>>We have always been very reluctant to remove folks from our listserv (I
>>even remember resisting the temptation to do so amidst abrasive remarks
>>from a member of the Outlook Express team...) but in cases like this
>>where an address is a public technical nuisance we will act more diligently.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>jean michel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re(3): MailSword spam

[alan]

Jean Michel

Thank you.

It seems that something is configured strangely on the list. I appeared
that I got the Mailsword messages only in response to the mails that I
posted to the list--as if someone could use the mailing list software to
correspond to me personally. Of course, I can't be sure of this, but what
I observed was that I got 3 emails that corresponded to my 3 most recent
postings, and not for anyone else's (many 10's or 100's of) postings in
the last few weeks.

I suggest you look into whether there is a setting on your list software
that needs to be changed to protect us from idiots like this list member.

A

==

PowerMail info at Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:26:04 +0200 said:

>Mikael,
>
>On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:04:13 +0200, Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm reporting all Mailsword responses not from an individual I have
>>mailed as Spam to Spamcop.net.
>>I suggest you guys do the same, so that Mailsword get the attention that
>>their service can be abused unintentionally to create spam. Hardly
>>*their* intention.
>>
>>PM 5.0.1 | OS X 10.3.4 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD
>
>Incidentally, we have manually removed [EMAIL PROTECTED] from our
>listserv (it took several tries, but the address is now really off).
>
>We have always been very reluctant to remove folks from our listserv (I
>even remember resisting the temptation to do so amidst abrasive remarks
>from a member of the Outlook Express team...) but in cases like this
>where an address is a public technical nuisance we will act more diligently.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>jean michel
>
>
>
>
>

Re(2): MailSword spam

[alan]

This is not a good idea, Mikael.

1) Read the FAQ: 

>List Traffic
>
>No matter how hard list managers try, spammers find a way to inject spam
>to the list, resulting in all list members receiving it.
>
> List servers often show themselve's as the source of the mail sent to
>it, not the originating user's IP address. Spam sent to mail lists/groups
>must not be reported using SpamCop. Instead, you should send a note to
>the list owner/manager who can block the source from sending to the list.
>

2) You will only be putting the powermail list on the spamcop blocking
list, which is (probably) not what you want to do.

3) Abusing the Spamcop blocking service should/might/will get you banned.

Mikael Byström at Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:04:13 +0200 said:

>
> I'm reporting all Mailsword responses not from an individual I have
>mailed as Spam to Spamcop.net.
>I suggest you guys do the same, so that Mailsword get the attention that
>their service can be abused unintentionally to create spam. Hardly
>*their* intention.
>
>PM 5.0.1 | OS X 10.3.4 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD
>
>
>
>
>

Re(2): MailSword spam

[PowerMail info]

Mikael,

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:04:13 +0200, Mikael Byström  wrote:

> I'm reporting all Mailsword responses not from an individual I have
>mailed as Spam to Spamcop.net.
>I suggest you guys do the same, so that Mailsword get the attention that
>their service can be abused unintentionally to create spam. Hardly
>*their* intention.
>
>PM 5.0.1 | OS X 10.3.4 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD

Incidentally, we have manually removed [EMAIL PROTECTED] from our
listserv (it took several tries, but the address is now really off).

We have always been very reluctant to remove folks from our listserv (I
even remember resisting the temptation to do so amidst abrasive remarks
from a member of the Outlook Express team...) but in cases like this
where an address is a public technical nuisance we will act more diligently.

Kind regards,

jean michel

Re: MailSword spam

[Mikael Byström]

 I'm reporting all Mailsword responses not from an individual I have
mailed as Spam to Spamcop.net.
I suggest you guys do the same, so that Mailsword get the attention that
their service can be abused unintentionally to create spam. Hardly
*their* intention.

PM 5.0.1 | OS X 10.3.4 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD

PowerMail can get AOL mail

[Dr Dave]

I just discovered that PowerMail v5 can send & receive AOL mail via an
IMAP server. :-) 

  http://members.aol.com/adamkb/aol/mailfaq/imap/

This is really nifty, as I don't like having to use a separate program
just to deal with AOL mail.

What I noticed is that because it's using an IMAP style connection, the
messages all vanish when you disconnect. That's not what I want & it
means that AOL can delete those whenever they feel like it. If I drag the
IMAP messages from the AOL inbox folder (in PowerMail) to another folder
they are copied. Cool. Now how can that be automated? 

I tried setting up a Mail Filter:

IF Account   ISmy_aol_acct
IF StatusIS   Unread
Execute actions if all conditions are met

Actions:
Move message into folder:  "zAol inbox".

But it doesn't work. Any suggestions or solutions?  
Do mail actions apply to IMAP mail? 

Best,
 Dave Nathanson

Re: Setup Database

[Chris Walker]

Hi all,

I too have received MailSword spam but I have also received the one below
which makes it look as if the recipient replied to it with the code 9188
as requested.

This guy needs a slap and if he is a list member should be removed from
the list.

A response from CTM as to what they are doing about it might be helpful.

Incidentally I don't use .mac so maybe the problem is not with that.

Chris


On 4/8/04 Midi Cox wrote:

>9188
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] caused electrons to hula in cyberspace with:
>
>>
>>Re: Your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>-
>>*** Attention ! ***
>>Pour que le destinataire de votre email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) soit
>>belle et bien avertit de celui-ci:
>>Veuillez confirmer par retour d'email (Bouton "Répondre") en indiquant
>>sur la première ligne le code ci-dessous.
>>Votre réponse devra être faite dans les 15 jours, sans quoi votre
>>correspondant n'aura jamais accès à votre message.
>>-
>>*** Attention! ***
>>In order to complete delivery of your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>please reply on this message by typing the following passcode
>>on the first line.
>>Please reply within 15 days to avoid automatic deletion
>>of your original email. Keep this text in your reply.
>>-
>>MailSword_Code:
>>
>>9188
>>
>>-- MailSword 1.61 --
>>MailSword_Verify: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>MailSword_Original_Message_Id: 5Np!!:']!!MPO"!jK0!!
>>MailSword_Local_Message_Id: ##
>>
>>-- Original Message
>>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:26:53 -0700
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Setup Database
>>
>>
>>-- End of Original Message
>>
>>Delivery of the above message is on hold pending your response.
>>Simply by typing the correct passcode and by replying on this
>>notification you'll complete the delivery of your original email.
>>This step is required to avoid unwanted mass emails.
>>
>>This automatic response is generated by the MailSword.
>>MailSword software provides free protection for email users
>>worldwide.
>>
>>__
>>Protected by MailSword. "Spam Ends Here"
>>FREE download at:  http://www.mailsword.com
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: MailSword spam

[david.gordon]

Midi Cox wrote on 04.08.04 at 15:20 -0700

>Did you get a MailSword message that quoted your email to the list
>completely? And had your message appeared on the list already?

No, it didn't quote my message. Also I now notice that the MailSword
message is "Subject: RE: does this list work" where as the message I sent
and has appeared was the just "does this list work".

Its all very confusing, wasting a lot of time and someone needs a slap.


-- 
david.gordon

Re: Filter Problem

[Tom Miller]

Wed, Aug 4, 2004 6:31 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Fragen said:

>As Barbara also said make sure you don't have some other filter further
>along that doesn't move the message somewhere else.

Thanks, Andy, Midi & Barbara, that "don't apply subsequent filters"
seemed to solve it.  It had worked fine w/o that before and other filters
work w/o it, but somehow adding another folder and filter made it
necessary for that filter.

 
Tom Miller
..
If you like tropical plants like hibiscus, please see:

..
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark 
...

Re: Filter Problem

[Andy Fragen]

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
Try something a little easier.

To contains 'ctmdev.com'
From, Sender or Reply-To contains 'ctmdev.com'

any condition

Move to folder 'PowerMail'

As Barbara also said make sure you don't have some other filter further
along that doesn't move the message somewhere else.

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Wed, Aug 4, 2004, Tom Miller said:

>What am I missing???
>
>I don't recall ever having a problem before w/ PM filters, but after I
>set up a new filter and a new folder, messages from this mail list now
>refuse to be filtered into my PM folder. I made no adjustments to the PM
>filter until this problem started, but the filter now looks like (see
>below) and messages instead go into my In Tray not my PM folder.

Re: Filter Problem

[Barbara Needham]

Tom Miller on 8/4/04 said

>What am I missing???
>
>I don't recall ever having a problem before w/ PM filters, but after I
>set up a new filter and a new folder, messages from this mail list now
>refuse to be filtered into my PM folder. I made no adjustments to the PM
>filter until this problem started, but the filter now looks like (see
>below) and messages instead go into my In Tray not my PM folder.
>
>

I think you need to check "stop applying filters to this message." You
must have some filter after it that is working on the same messages.
-- 
Barbara Needham

Re: Filter Problem

[Midi Cox]

Check where the filter is in the list. Also check, "Don't apply
subsequent filters this message" at the bottom.

Midi

Tom caused electrons to hula in cyberspace with:

>What am I missing???
>
>I don't recall ever having a problem before w/ PM filters, but after I
>set up a new filter and a new folder, messages from this mail list now
>refuse to be filtered into my PM folder. I made no adjustments to the PM
>filter until this problem started, but the filter now looks like (see
>below) and messages instead go into my In Tray not my PM folder.
>

Filter Problem

[Tom Miller]

What am I missing???

I don't recall ever having a problem before w/ PM filters, but after I
set up a new filter and a new folder, messages from this mail list now
refuse to be filtered into my PM folder. I made no adjustments to the PM
filter until this problem started, but the filter now looks like (see
below) and messages instead go into my In Tray not my PM folder.



Tom Miller, 10.3.4, 5.0.1

Re: MailSword spam

[Midi Cox]

Did you get a MailSword message that quoted your email to the list
completely? And had your message appeared on the list already?

Midi

david.gordon caused electrons to hula in cyberspace with:

>
>If CTM say they aren't responsible perhaps they should contact the ISP of
>the person who is. It seems to me these mails are spoofing email addresses 
>
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>and that any ISP should not allow this.
>
>>Received: from unknown (HELO out.websud.ch)
>>([EMAIL PROTECTED]@82.146.196.172)
>>  by srv2-6.ip-tech.ch with SMTP; 4 Aug 2004 18:41:50 -
>>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>X-Mailer: SWAT SMTP Server 1.2
>>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:41:50 -429496729500
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: does this list work
>
>
>-- 
>david.gordon
>
>

Re: MailSword spam

[david.gordon]

Midi Cox wrote on 04.08.04 at 14:45 -0700

>The real
>culprit seems to be .mac and whatever they are doing with lists.

I don't have .mac account but I have received a MailSword message this
evening.

If CTM say they aren't responsible perhaps they should contact the ISP of
the person who is. It seems to me these mails are spoofing email addresses 

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and that any ISP should not allow this.

>Received: from unknown (HELO out.websud.ch)
>([EMAIL PROTECTED]@82.146.196.172)
>  by srv2-6.ip-tech.ch with SMTP; 4 Aug 2004 18:41:50 -
>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>X-Mailer: SWAT SMTP Server 1.2
>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:41:50 -429496729500
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: does this list work


-- 
david.gordon