Re: Turnaround time for licence? (Changed to Threading query)

2005-03-09 Thread Rein Ciarfella

Barbara

Threading is not available in PowerMail. The workaround is to sort by
subject. This has come up periodically in the past and I think the end
result is that, it is not going to be a part of PM. I originally wanted
threading and even tried a couple other e-mail clients that do threading
of one sort or another; but PowerMail's other features of particular
views, filtering, etc. drew me back.

I just tried Basheera Khan's suggestion.  I've been manually dragging
(until I figure out how to get a filter to do it automatically - I'll get
into *that* later!) every PM List message into a single folder and I just
opened up that folder in a separate window and clicked on Subject. 
Although it's not true threading, the subjects line up alphabetically and
then chronologically, so you *can* scroll down to see posts on specific
topics.  (Another brilliant reason for my not posting, inappropriately,
with my dating stamp in the Subject line!)  This, to my mind, achieves a
result every bit as useful. I suppose if you've got umpteenzillion posts
in there it might not work, but for now, for me, it's a way to make order
out of chaos.

RC

Rein Ciarfella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIMM=rcsails
OS 9.1 (holdout)
PowerMail 4.2.1





Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Andy Fragen

Jan,

I was a clever demonstration but the message you sent has HMTL in it but
is not an HTML message. HTML messages have some sort of

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0-1829906618-1110170206=:28658

header. Which your's does not. ;-)

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Wed, Mar 9, 2005, Jan M.J. Storms said:

Hi all,

Here is my plain text message to you: nice isn't it?

Jan


-



html
head
   titleAmazing/title
/head
body
Hi all,

Here is my html-formatted message to you: nice isn't it?

It is not like it gets in the way of writing plain text or takes up
hellish bandwith.

Jan
/body
/html











Re: Rich Text/HTML

2005-03-09 Thread waynefb

Rich Text (AKA RTF) is a format designed by Microsoft, you don't usually ever 
hand code it since it was designed to be used as an interchange format for 
wordprocessing documents. Oon the other hand HTML  can be handcoded if needed, 
and was designed for displaying web pages. 

The end result in email is pretty much the same, fonts, colored text, font 
sizes, pictures, etc.

Wayne


-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 9, 2005 8:17 AM
To: PowerMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Rich Text/HTML

What's the difference between rich text and html formatted text in e-mail?







Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Michael Lewis

Wayne Brissette sez:

If we really want to fix the bandwidth
problems, we have to fix the spammers.

Agreed. I know a veterinarian who has no qualms doing without anesthetic
on such people.

-- 
Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.offbalance.com






Re: POWERMAIL/EPSON CONFLICT

2005-03-09 Thread Matthias Schmidt

Rein,

you have a port problem.
The OS thinks the modem is connected to this port.
How do you connect to the internet?
Check your settings under Schedules.
Check your connection settings.

All the best

Matthias

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Am/On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:39:48 -0500 schrieb/wrote Rein Ciarfella:

Matthias

this might be a problem of the printer driver or a conflict between the
printer driver and another extension of your system.

Try installing the last version of the printer driver for classic.
Disable all System Extensions and enable them step by step.

I checked a printer forum and couldn't find any problem reports about
Stylus Color 600 and OS 9.x

I have the latest driver for this printer and never had this problem
prior to using PM.  This suggests to me it is PM-related.  In
troubleshooting I forced the Epson driver to the top of the extensions
list to load first but it didn't help.  Actually, I've used this printer
since my OS 7.6.1 days but the previous driver didn't allow this printer
to function when I upgraded to OS 8.1 so I had to retire it until I
discovered they came out with a new driver which enabled the printer in
my subsequent OS 9.1.  Dusted off the old printer, installed the new
driver and was good to go, until now.

I know little about ports, but have a suspicion it may be port-connected.
 Remember - the printer is on, functioning perfectly (but not being used
at the time), I launch PM and the printer immediately gets a signal from
PM and starts printing a garbage page all by itself and requires a
factory reset to function properly once again.  I did not send a print
job to it.  Something in PM is communicating to the printer.  No other
app I have ever used has caused this to occur.

Thanks for your help!

As an additional query, could someone test print a PM email with v4.2.1
just to see what happens?  It occurs to me that using a printer while
doing email may not be a common occurence (I can't recall ever doing it,
myself) and this would be a way to determine if it is, in reality, my
printer driver or the problem exists within the 4.2.1 code.

RC

Rein Ciarfella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIMM=rcsails
OS 9.1 (holdout)
PowerMail 4.2.1








Rich Text/HTML

2005-03-09 Thread Tom Miller

What's the difference between rich text and html formatted text in e-mail?





Re: Turnaround time for licence?

2005-03-09 Thread computer artwork by subhash

[Basheera Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 9.3.2005 um 13:57 Uhr:]

While I'm at it, I noticed in my trial version of the software that 
there appears to be no way to sort messages by thread. Is this the 
case, or am I missing something very obvious?

Just click on the title of the column of the listed mails and they get sorted.

-- 
http://www.subhash.at






Turnaround time for licence?

2005-03-09 Thread Basheera Khan

Hi all,

I am a new PowerMail user, as well as a new subscriber to the list - 
so, howdy. :-)

I have a question regarding the turnaround time in acquiring a 
PowerMail registration code. I made my licensing payment yesterday 
afternoon, and thoroughly expected to hear from the PowerMail crowd by 
this morning at the latest. However, nothing doing. In your collective 
experience, is this normal? I have sent a follow-up email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but have received no response.

While I'm at it, I noticed in my trial version of the software that 
there appears to be no way to sort messages by thread. Is this the 
case, or am I missing something very obvious?

All tips and advice much appreciated.

Many thanks,
Basheera
(in my personal capacity)

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Re: POWERMAIL/EPSON CONFLICT

2005-03-09 Thread Jim Pistrang

Hi Rein,

As an additional query, could someone test print a PM email with v4.2.1
just to see what happens?  It occurs to me that using a printer while
doing email may not be a common occurence (I can't recall ever doing it,
myself) and this would be a way to determine if it is, in reality, my
printer driver or the problem exists within the 4.2.1 code.

I can't test now, as I've moved on to OSX and PM 5, but I started with PM
back when I used OS9 and PM4 and I certainly printed while getting email.
 However, I don't have the same printer as you...

Jim

-- 
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JP Computer Resources
Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 
413-256-4569
http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang






Re(2): Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread computer artwork by subhash

[Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 9.3.2005 um 7:12 Uhr:]

If we really want to fix the bandwidth
problems, we have to fix the spammers.

That is correct.

-- 
http://www.subhash.at





Re: POWERMAIL/EPSON CONFLICT

2005-03-09 Thread Rein Ciarfella

Matthias

this might be a problem of the printer driver or a conflict between the
printer driver and another extension of your system.

Try installing the last version of the printer driver for classic.
Disable all System Extensions and enable them step by step.

I checked a printer forum and couldn't find any problem reports about
Stylus Color 600 and OS 9.x

I have the latest driver for this printer and never had this problem
prior to using PM.  This suggests to me it is PM-related.  In
troubleshooting I forced the Epson driver to the top of the extensions
list to load first but it didn't help.  Actually, I've used this printer
since my OS 7.6.1 days but the previous driver didn't allow this printer
to function when I upgraded to OS 8.1 so I had to retire it until I
discovered they came out with a new driver which enabled the printer in
my subsequent OS 9.1.  Dusted off the old printer, installed the new
driver and was good to go, until now.

I know little about ports, but have a suspicion it may be port-connected.
 Remember - the printer is on, functioning perfectly (but not being used
at the time), I launch PM and the printer immediately gets a signal from
PM and starts printing a garbage page all by itself and requires a
factory reset to function properly once again.  I did not send a print
job to it.  Something in PM is communicating to the printer.  No other
app I have ever used has caused this to occur.

Thanks for your help!

As an additional query, could someone test print a PM email with v4.2.1
just to see what happens?  It occurs to me that using a printer while
doing email may not be a common occurence (I can't recall ever doing it,
myself) and this would be a way to determine if it is, in reality, my
printer driver or the problem exists within the 4.2.1 code.

RC

Rein Ciarfella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIMM=rcsails
OS 9.1 (holdout)
PowerMail 4.2.1





Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Karel Gillissen

Sorry, couldn't resist.
savin' bandwith now.. ;-)

Karel



Op woensdag, 9 maart 2005 schreef Wayne Brissette:
First, it is like a religious war, there are no clear winners, only
facts from both sides. In either case we've wasted a ton of bandwidth
on this topic and the bottom line is, it is now getting old. Can we
please drop it. 




Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Wayne Brissette

Hmm, it doesn't get in the way but needs more than twice the number of
characters for exactly the same information  (140 vs. 66) so with this
message you need double bandwith for the same communication...


First off, many of you long time PM users know that I am no fan of HTML
mail. However that said, I have to state two things about this thread.

First, it is like a religious war, there are no clear winners, only
facts from both sides. In either case we've wasted a ton of bandwidth
on this topic and the bottom line is, it is now getting old. Can we
please drop it. 

And second, speaking of bandwidth. If we really want to fix the bandwidth
problems, we have to fix the spammers. This is where 90+% of the wasted
bandwidth comes from. SpamSieve is only part of the solution because it
does nothing to stop them, it only helps unclutter your mailbox.
Aggressive actions must be taken if we are to solve this problem. So far,
only limited things have worked. However, this is were most of the
bandwidth issues are taken place right now, not in HTML mail. Once Spam
is dealt with, then we can talk about HTML wasting bandwidth. Until then,
it's simply a blight. 

Wayne

-- 
Success usually comes to those who are too busy to be looking for it 
- Henry David Thoreau






Re(3): Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Jan M.J. Storms

What I imply is that adding HTML-editing capabilities to PowerMail will
not take away the ability to work with plain text.

So let people who want HTML-editing have it. If you don't have use for
it, don't use it. That is my point.

Jan

-

computer artwork by subhash scripsit dd. Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:51:31 +0100
(internet: @577)

[Jan M.J. Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 9.3.2005 um 13:31 Uhr:]

It is not like it gets in the way of writing plain text or takes up
hellish bandwith.

It is completely unnecessary to send this text HTML formatted because
there is not the slightest formatting. (Therefore the HTML text is short
and simple and taking no bandwidth.)

-- 
http://www.subhash.at









Re(2): Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread computer artwork by subhash

[Jan M.J. Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 9.3.2005 um 13:31 Uhr:]

It is not like it gets in the way of writing plain text or takes up
hellish bandwith.

It is completely unnecessary to send this text HTML formatted because
there is not the slightest formatting. (Therefore the HTML text is short
and simple and taking no bandwidth.)

-- 
http://www.subhash.at





Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Jan M.J. Storms
Title: Amazing

Hi all,

Here is my plain text message to you: nice isn't it?

Jan


-





Hi all,

Here is my "html-formatted" message to you: nice isn't it?

It is not like it gets in the way of writing plain text or takes up
hellish bandwith.

Jan








Re: Subject: Re: 05/03/08-(....)

2005-03-09 Thread Rein Ciarfella

can you please post your answers or postings with a normal subject line ?

Yes.  Sorry, folks.

RC

Rein Ciarfella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIMM=rcsails
OS 9.1 (holdout)
PowerMail 4.2.1





Re: Can't Open Attachments

2005-03-09 Thread Matthias Schmidt

what happens, when you Click on Show in Finder.
And can you open the attachments from the Finder ?
I think PM just sends an open event to the Finder with the path to the
attachment.

All the best

Matthias

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Am/On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 19:53:15 -0800 schrieb/wrote Cap Schwartz:

Odd thing, suddenly I can't open attachments, no matter what kind. I
don't get many, so this may have been going on for a while. I've done the
usual: option-ctrl, check all the boxes, restart. But I get an error each
time I double-click on an attachment: An STL exception occurred. I
click on More Info and get Class=std ; what=8; when=100 Anybody seen
this before? If not, the next step, I guess is to reinstall, etc.

Thanks in advance,
Cap









Can't Open Attachments

2005-03-09 Thread Cap Schwartz

Odd thing, suddenly I can't open attachments, no matter what kind. I
don't get many, so this may have been going on for a while. I've done the
usual: option-ctrl, check all the boxes, restart. But I get an error each
time I double-click on an attachment: An STL exception occurred. I
click on More Info and get Class=std ; what=8; when=100 Anybody seen
this before? If not, the next step, I guess is to reinstall, etc.

Thanks in advance,
Cap






Re: POWERMAIL/EPSON CONFLICT

2005-03-09 Thread Matthias Schmidt

Rein,

this might be a problem of the printer driver or a conflict between the
printer driver and another extension of your system.

Try installing the last version of the printer driver for classic.
Disable all System Extensions and enable them step by step.

I checked a printer forum and couldn't find any problem reports about
Stylus Color 600 and OS 9.x

All the best

Matthias

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Am/On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:24:23 -0500 schrieb/wrote Rein Ciarfella:

A problem has arisen with a conflict between PowerMail and my Epson
Stylus Color 600 printer.  Any time PM is turned on my printer fails to
function properly and I must do a factory reset (only achieved by turning
off my computer, unplugging the serial cord to the printer, resetting,
reconnecting and restarting).  I have duplicated this malfunction in two
ways: printer on first and then launching PM (resulting in the printing
of 1/3 page of garbage) or PM on first and powering up the printer
(resulting in printer power light flashing).  Both cases necessitate a
factory reset of the printer to enable functionality once again.  Any Ideas?

RC

Rein Ciarfella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIMM=rcsails
OS 9.1 (holdout)
PowerMail 4.2.1








Subject: Re: 05/03/08-(....)

2005-03-09 Thread Matthias Schmidt

All,

can you please post your answers or postings with a normal subject line ?
e.g. 05/03/08-RC (Barbara) says nothing about the subject itself.
Putting the date in front of the subject makes really no sense, as the
date is also written in the header.
If you're responding to a digest, please change the subject line accordingly.

Thanks and all the best

Matthias

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