powermail-discuss Digest #2734 - 11/14/07

2007-11-14 Thread PowerMail discussions
powermail-discuss Digest #2734 - Wednesday, November 14, 2007

  Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
  by Damienn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re: Time Machine and Powermail  SuperDuper (Quit PowerMail  save open m
  by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject: Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
From: Damienn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:45:01 +0100

From MB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-11-13 14.18 (+0100 GMT)

typed accented characters in the native PowerMail addressbook doesn't
show up in the displayed name. This also extends to the header of sent
messages, so it's not just a cosmetic problem. Umlauts do work, however.

I can also confirm this misbehaviour.

Earlier versions of PowerMail didn't have this problem. My PowerMail
Address book contains several accented names I _typed_ in (using those
earlier versions) and those names still display correctly.

This version (5.5.3) does have the aforementioned problem.

Damienn

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2 GHz Intel Core Duo iMac / OS X Tiger 10.4.9 / PowerMail 5.5.3

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Subject: Re: Time Machine and Powermail  SuperDuper (Quit PowerMail  save 
open messages)
From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:14:00 -0800

To make SuperDuper! run a script just prior to backup,

Open this script in Script Editor and
save the apple script as an application,
(also keep a script version just to make sure you can still edit it later).
It can be saved to any location.
Then, in SuperDuper, select your source  destination drives and click
the options button. Click Advanced tab and
X the box for Run a shell script before copy starts; and
select your script.
Click OK to exit this window and if you like,
Schedule this whole operation to happen on a regular basis.

Hope this helps.

Best,
 Dave Nathanson
 Mac Medix

in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Dave N's message of 11:25 PM, 11/12/07

The following applescript can be run by SuperDuper just before backup to
Quit PowerMail, and save any open messages.

Quit_PowerMail_If_Running_Save_Drafts.applescript


set targetApp to PowerMail
tell application System Events
   set processExists to exists process targetApp
end tell


if processExists is true then
   tell application PowerMail
   repeat with i from 1 to (count of windows)
   try
   if window i is modified then
   close window i with saving
   end if
   end try
   end repeat
   quit
   end tell
end if


Hope this helps.

Best,
 Dave Nathanson
 Mac Medix

in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Rick Lecoat's message of 6:32
AM, 11/12/07

Superduper can run a script prior to backup that could deal with the
shutting down of PM,





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(copy of a) request regarding deletion of downloaded IMAP message attachments

2007-11-14 Thread MB
A copy of what was sent to CTM support:

request regarding deletion of downloaded IMAP message attachments:

I think the dialog  Erase (EXPUNGE) Deleted Messages... that is shown
prior to erasing messages at the IMAP server in use, should in addition
also inform that already downloaded messages also will be deleted. An
option to keep those attachments would be most helpful. 

Mikael

Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD






Did I make a huge mistake here?

2007-11-14 Thread John Maylone

I just upgraded to Leopard.  I cloned my hard drive, did a clean
install, then copied the files back into Leopard from the clone.

When I went to open PowerMail it told me that it needed to upgrade
the database to be compatible with PM 5.5, that I should make a
backup copy of the mail file and then proceed.   Instead of seeing
warning flares and hearing warning sirens, I went ahead and did this.
Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago.

I have this sinking feelingwhat have I done to myself here?

Any help for the embarrassed old guy will be greatly appreciated.

John 





Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?

2007-11-14 Thread Michael J . Hußmann
John Maylone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
 was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago.

Could it be that PowerMail found the wrong database -- an old backup
version perhaps? This seems to be the most likely explanation, given the
circumstances.

- Michael


Michael J. Hußmann

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de




Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?

2007-11-14 Thread T.L. Miller
On 11/14/07, at 3:30 PM, John Maylone [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I just upgraded to Leopard.  I cloned my hard drive, did a clean
install, then copied the files back into Leopard from the clone.

I'll bet your clone was made w/ CCC instead of SuperDuper. I had no PM
DB problem using Migration Assistant from a FWHD SuperDuper clone.

When I went to open PowerMail it told me that it needed to upgrade
the database to be compatible with PM 5.5, that I should make a
backup copy of the mail file and then proceed.   Instead of seeing
warning flares and hearing warning sirens, I went ahead and did this.
Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago.

What happens when you use the clone as your Startup Drive? 

Maybe this will help someone solve your problem. 
Since SuperDuper is not compatible w/ Leopard yet, I did a CCC clone a
week after I installed Leopard and all was well. Last weekend I did a
Copy selected items using CCC to update my clone. For grins, I started
up from this clone and I got the same message you did about my PM DB. I
then erased my clone and did a full cloning and when I used the FWHD as
my Startup (as a test), all was normal with PM. 




Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...







Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?

2007-11-14 Thread Marlyse Comte
well, as a first -  as you cloned your hard drive you obviously still
have that to fall back onto.
second - I wonder why you did not migrate?
third -  how about deleting all PM from your Leopard drive (i.e. trash
prefs and the database created etc.) and try again - by copying the
former PM database over from your clone, feel free to backup this time
around when it asks you to.
fourth - a possibility : is it pointing at the correct database to open?

---marlyse


 former message(s) quotes: -



I just upgraded to Leopard.  I cloned my hard drive, did a clean
install, then copied the files back into Leopard from the clone.

When I went to open PowerMail it told me that it needed to upgrade
the database to be compatible with PM 5.5, that I should make a
backup copy of the mail file and then proceed.   Instead of seeing
warning flares and hearing warning sirens, I went ahead and did this.
Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago.

I have this sinking feelingwhat have I done to myself here?

Any help for the embarrassed old guy will be greatly appreciated.

John 








Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?

2007-11-14 Thread John Maylone
Tom,

Thanks to you (and to all) for replying to my distress signal.

I just upgraded to Leopard.  I cloned my hard drive, did a clean
install, then copied the files back into Leopard from the clone.

I'll bet your clone was made w/ CCC instead of SuperDuper. I had no
PM DB problem using Migration Assistant from a FWHD SuperDuper clone.

I used Intego's Personal Backup X4.  It seems to have worked pretty
well with everything BUT PowerMail, but then I am still trying to
sort out other issues and really haven't gone spelunking for other
problems at this point...but just now looking through the dates
in my Applications folder, for example, everything looks very much as
it should.

When I went to open PowerMail it told me that it needed to upgrade
the database to be compatible with PM 5.5, that I should make a
backup copy of the mail file and then proceed.   Instead of seeing
warning flares and hearing warning sirens, I went ahead and did
this.
Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago.

What happens when you use the clone as your Startup Drive? 

This is the frightening part; it gives me the same OLD database,
which has my head spinning and me wondering WTF is this curse around
me and Mac OS upgrades.  When I installed Tiger on top of OS X 10.3,
it became a huge  disaster, I lost a lot of info and wound up having
to do a clean install.  This time I wanted to avoid that so I did the
clone thing (which, BTW, has worked for me BEFORE) and here I am
staring another big loss in the face.

Maybe this will help someone solve your problem. 

I can only hope that this is the case.  Thanks again to you and all
for replying.

Cheers,

John

Since SuperDuper is not compatible w/ Leopard yet, I did a CCC clone
a week after I installed Leopard and all was well. Last weekend I
did a
Copy selected items using CCC to update my clone. For grins, I
started up from this clone and I got the same message you did about
my PM DB.
I then erased my clone and did a full cloning and when I used the
FWHD
as my Startup (as a test), all was normal with PM. 




Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...






Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?

2007-11-14 Thread T.L. Miller
On 11/14/07, at 5:01 PM, John Maylone [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago.

What happens when you use the clone as your Startup Drive? 

This is the frightening part; it gives me the same OLD database,
which has my head spinning and me wondering WTF is this curse around
me and Mac OS upgrades.

By OLD, you mean the 2006 DB not the most recent DB, right? Could it
be that Intego's Personal Backup somehow gave your clone the 2006 DB?


Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...







Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?

2007-11-14 Thread John Maylone
Richard,

I didn't make myself clear.

The message file that my PM is using is in the
HD/Users/Me/Mail/PowerMail Files folder, and the file name is Message
Database.  I mentioned the Applications folder only in the context
that I had checked the file dates in that to see if there were any
other apparent problems as a result of the upgrade to Leopard.

BTW, I'm still stumped here.

Thanks for replying!

Cheers,

John

Your most recent database should be in your USER folder NOT the
Applications folder.






Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)

2007-11-14 Thread Sean McBride
Michael J. Hußmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 13/11/07 18:58 said:

 When using a name containing an apostrophe in the name part ( I have yet
 to see such an email address)

And you will never see one, because accented letters (and all other
characters outside the ASCII character set, plus some ASCII characters)
are not allowed in mail addresses.

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_E-mail

Sean