Re: PM6 hopes.. was:: reason for HTML-only?
Please add to my list of Hopes for PM6: * Ability to highlight copy text in a html message. Dave N in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Dave N's message of 10:40 AM, 8/24/08 Since I have (finally) started to use the 3 pane view, I noticed that PM doesn't allow you to edit unsent emails in the 3rd pane. Even if you save an email reopen it in the 3rd pane later, you may view, but not edit there. Sort of odd that you must open the unsent email in a separate window to work on it. This is a minor complaint, but one easily fixed in PM6 perhaps. Along with the usual feature requests of: *Normal Printing (with a print dialog box, message headers, choice of html or text versions, etc) * the infamous html issues * Find/Replace function in the email being edited. * Smart folders (saved searches) * Pop-up menu to file incoming emails AND outgoing emails. * More choices of toolbar functions. * Lift the 2 gb db limit. * Even more robust Filter criteria, to include IF this AND that, OR IF the other thing, then... * Continued support for the existing great features of PM for Power users. Best, Dave N in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Bill Schjelderup's message of 9:54 AM, 8/24/08 I sure hope Powermail v6 is a real product and not vaporwareand that one of it's major enhancements is better integration of HTML email.
reset used keychain?
PowerMail insists to use my login keychain even though I don't have any info for a mail account there. Theyre in my user accounts keychain. This keychains password is different from the account password. How can I affect what keychain PowerMail wants to use? Can I reset this somehow? Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.5 build 4509 sv / SpamSieve 2.7.1 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB
Re: reason for HTML-only?
C. A. Niemiec suggested: 1. view plain text portion 2. view HTML portion 3. view HTML portion scrubbed to plain text #3 is HTML part minus tags. Links reduced to PowerMail's usual angle- bracketed plain text style. The 3rd alternative is usually possible with PM since some time, if there is no pure text part. If there is a pure text part, usually it makes sense to default to that. I'd consider it feature though to be able to view any HTML-message to text only, even if there was a pure text part. However, some HTML-messages end up as attachments only, which is a big problem IMHO. Some problems with this: ? The PM built-search index won't contain the data as it's only available in an external file. Thus, information in these attached files won't turn up in any searches. ? The information is fragile. If the external file is moved or deleted only an empty message will be what's left. ? The information can only be read, copied and treated in the web browser, which is quite inconvenient. ? It's likely that forwards or redirects will keep the message as attachment only, which will expand the problem to users of other more HTML-capable email clients. Friends (sic), family, co-workers all get their HTML mail via the client of their choice. PowerMail users can send back plain text replies. PowerMail users with a grudge against HTML mail can send back plain text with maniacal glee. Hehe, this sounds nice. Would this really take more than some regex? Why? It's much better to let an HTML interpreter do its stuff and use the result, which is text after all (and media obviously, but that would have to be scrapped I think). Which is what PM does now. Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.5 build 4509 sv / SpamSieve 2.7.1 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB
Re: reset used keychain?
MB wrote: PowerMail insists to use my login keychain even though I don't have any info for a mail account there. Theyre in my user accounts keychain. This keychains password is different from the account password. How can I affect what keychain PowerMail wants to use? Can I reset this somehow? Have a look at your keychain access (service application) of your mac. Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.5 build 4509 sv / SpamSieve 2.7.1 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB
Re: reason for HTML-only?
However, some HTML-messages end up as attachments only, which is a big problem IMHO. Some problems with this: ? The PM built-search index won't contain the data as it's only available in an external file. Thus, information in these attached files won't turn up in any searches. ? The information is fragile. If the external file is moved or deleted only an empty message will be what's left. ? The information can only be read, copied and treated in the web browser, which is quite inconvenient. I would envision an HTML importer that would squeeze the content of .html attachments sans tags into a message that would be indexed and placed in the database as normal (heh, as a normal message). ala: Mail Import HTML attachment as text ... and a corresponding action for filter purposes. If message is [ not evaluated as spam || from sender in address book || etc ], make a plain text part from HTML attachment. ? It's likely that forwards or redirects will keep the message as attachment only, which will expand the problem to users of other more HTML-capable email clients. Forwarding with attachments -- didn't think of that. Would this really take more than some regex? Why? It's much better to let an HTML interpreter do its stuff and use the result, which is text after all (and media obviously, but that would have to be scrapped I think). Which is what PM does now. For PowerMail to create a tagless, plain text version of the HTML part would take more than regex? Or take the results of the HTML interpreter and make plain text of that? Same end: text I can select from within PowerMail for quoting or whatnot. I guess my point was I wouldn't have to use/look at the HTML interpreter unless the conversion ended up too scrambled. I honestly don't get enough HTML messages to know how often this would be. Chris --
powermail-discuss Digest #2875 - 08/26/08
powermail-discuss Digest #2875 - Tuesday, August 26, 2008 Re: PM6 hopes.. was:: reason for HTML-only? by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] reset used keychain? by MB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: reason for HTML-only? by MB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: reset used keychain? by Rene Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: reason for HTML-only? by C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: PM6 hopes.. was:: reason for HTML-only? From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:08:56 -0700 Please add to my list of Hopes for PM6: * Ability to highlight copy text in a html message. Dave N in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Dave N's message of 10:40 AM, 8/24/08 Since I have (finally) started to use the 3 pane view, I noticed that PM doesn't allow you to edit unsent emails in the 3rd pane. Even if you save an email reopen it in the 3rd pane later, you may view, but not edit there. Sort of odd that you must open the unsent email in a separate window to work on it. This is a minor complaint, but one easily fixed in PM6 perhaps. Along with the usual feature requests of: *Normal Printing (with a print dialog box, message headers, choice of html or text versions, etc) * the infamous html issues * Find/Replace function in the email being edited. * Smart folders (saved searches) * Pop-up menu to file incoming emails AND outgoing emails. * More choices of toolbar functions. * Lift the 2 gb db limit. * Even more robust Filter criteria, to include IF this AND that, OR IF the other thing, then... * Continued support for the existing great features of PM for Power users. Best, Dave N in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Bill Schjelderup's message of 9:54 AM, 8/24/08 I sure hope Powermail v6 is a real product and not vaporwareand that one of it's major enhancements is better integration of HTML email. -- Subject: reset used keychain? From: MB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:06:41 +0200 PowerMail insists to use my login keychain even though I don't have any info for a mail account there. Theyre in my user accounts keychain. This keychains password is different from the account password. How can I affect what keychain PowerMail wants to use? Can I reset this somehow? Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.5 build 4509 sv / SpamSieve 2.7.1 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB -- Subject: Re: reason for HTML-only? From: MB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:06:41 +0200 C. A. Niemiec suggested: 1. view plain text portion 2. view HTML portion 3. view HTML portion scrubbed to plain text #3 is HTML part minus tags. Links reduced to PowerMail's usual angle- bracketed plain text style. The 3rd alternative is usually possible with PM since some time, if there is no pure text part. If there is a pure text part, usually it makes sense to default to that. I'd consider it feature though to be able to view any HTML-message to text only, even if there was a pure text part. However, some HTML-messages end up as attachments only, which is a big problem IMHO. Some problems with this: ? The PM built-search index won't contain the data as it's only available in an external file. Thus, information in these attached files won't turn up in any searches. ? The information is fragile. If the external file is moved or deleted only an empty message will be what's left. ? The information can only be read, copied and treated in the web browser, which is quite inconvenient. ? It's likely that forwards or redirects will keep the message as attachment only, which will expand the problem to users of other more HTML-capable email clients. Friends (sic), family, co-workers all get their HTML mail via the client of their choice. PowerMail users can send back plain text replies. PowerMail users with a grudge against HTML mail can send back plain text with maniacal glee. Hehe, this sounds nice. Would this really take more than some regex? Why? It's much better to let an HTML interpreter do its stuff and use the result, which is text after all (and media obviously, but that would have to be scrapped I think). Which is what PM does now. Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.5 build 4509 sv / SpamSieve 2.7.1 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB -- Subject: Re: reset used keychain? From: Rene Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:40:05 +0200 MB wrote: PowerMail insists to use my login keychain even though I don't have any info for a mail account there. Theyre in my user accounts keychain. This keychains password is different from the account password. How can I affect what keychain PowerMail wants to use? Can I reset this somehow? Have a look at your keychain access (service application)
