Re: address book sync
hi Alan, thanks for the help. it seems absurd that we shouldn't be able to to sync or syncH with address book since so many other programs are using. i tried to avoid using it, but the wave is heavily towards using it's database for just about everything (including of course iphone, PIMs, bulk mail programs, etc.) the problem is that i've used PM much longer and more frequently than Addres Book, especially when it comes to keep email addresses up to date. so deleting PM's contacts means losing many (and likely more up-to-date) email addresses. my Address Book more often holds snail mail that i'd like to keep for that rare occasion of needing that ancient reference, PM more often has not only email, but updated email. but if i want to use virtually any other program, it's not PM that those talk to. anyone else have a work around that doesn't require losing PM's contacts or retyping what could be 100s? thanks again and cheers, angel Quoting Alan Harper l...@alanharper.com: Hi Angel First, I asked about the same question in 2006 and got the following response: Sean McBride (cwat...@cam.org) said on 10/12/06: Alan Harper (l...@alanharper.com) on 2006-10-11 19:50 said: SHORT QUESTION: Has anyone figured out a way to keep the PowerMail address book and Apple's AddressBook synchronized reliably? Short Answer: no. That being said, here is the recipe I use, and it seems to work pretty well. 1) Delete every contact in your PowerMail address book 2) Set your Synchronization in PowerMail to: Update PowerMail from Apple's Address Book ? On PowerMail startup ? When PowerMail is brought to the front (this is optional, uncheck if you wish) Click on Advanced and check every check box 3) Leave unchecked Update Apple's Address Book from PowerMail 4) Never use the Add to Address Book menu item That has worked for me. But when it fails, repeat step (1) above and then resynchronize. PS--Back up your address books (in PowerMail and Apple's Address Book) before you start! angel (li...@urbanpeace.net) said on 1/22/09: greetings, i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing. When i first did a sync, new groups were created in PM that matched the groups in Address Book, but there were no contacts in the groups. i thought it was because the PM groups were inside of folders, so i removed them from the folders, added contacts to several of the empty groups and then re-synced. PM re-created any new groups I made in Address Book, but again, with no contacts. WORSE though, is that it deleted the contacts i added to each group in PM before the sync. it also creates folders called Apple Address Book Contacts with contacts in it and i don't understand why those particular contacts get put in those folders. i have the following checked in preferences: - Update from Apple's Address Book on PM startup - Update Appe's Address Book from PM automatically - Open contacts in Address Book by default. Under advanced... for both of them, I have everything checked except for delete... because i didn't want to take a chance of losing any contacts. does anyone have any experience with getting PM's address book and Apple's to keep good sync with each other? any documentation anywhere? i should note that i put most of my contacts within folders in PM for organization's sake. that way, when contacts are loose i can file them later and everyone gets categorized in a folder. any help or pointers would be much appreciated. thanks, angel - PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G --- PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
Re: address book sync
back again... i guess i would like to know WHY PM deletes contacts from groups though i've never checked delete for anything. if the sync isn't expected to work, why include it? CTM are we just expected to live with the understanding that the sync feature is presented but doesn't really work? can we know definitively from the creators? i'd prefer not to figure out and waste time on a workaround if will just get confused repeatedly. but it's a really important feature for me, so it'd be good to know whether i *actually* have it or not. respectfully, angel Quoting Alan Harper l...@alanharper.com: Hi Angel First, I asked about the same question in 2006 and got the following response: Sean McBride (cwat...@cam.org) said on 10/12/06: Alan Harper (l...@alanharper.com) on 2006-10-11 19:50 said: SHORT QUESTION: Has anyone figured out a way to keep the PowerMail address book and Apple's AddressBook synchronized reliably? Short Answer: no. That being said, here is the recipe I use, and it seems to work pretty well. 1) Delete every contact in your PowerMail address book 2) Set your Synchronization in PowerMail to: Update PowerMail from Apple's Address Book ? On PowerMail startup ? When PowerMail is brought to the front (this is optional, uncheck if you wish) Click on Advanced and check every check box 3) Leave unchecked Update Apple's Address Book from PowerMail 4) Never use the Add to Address Book menu item That has worked for me. But when it fails, repeat step (1) above and then resynchronize. PS--Back up your address books (in PowerMail and Apple's Address Book) before you start! angel (li...@urbanpeace.net) said on 1/22/09: greetings, i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing. When i first did a sync, new groups were created in PM that matched the groups in Address Book, but there were no contacts in the groups. i thought it was because the PM groups were inside of folders, so i removed them from the folders, added contacts to several of the empty groups and then re-synced. PM re-created any new groups I made in Address Book, but again, with no contacts. WORSE though, is that it deleted the contacts i added to each group in PM before the sync. it also creates folders called Apple Address Book Contacts with contacts in it and i don't understand why those particular contacts get put in those folders. i have the following checked in preferences: - Update from Apple's Address Book on PM startup - Update Appe's Address Book from PM automatically - Open contacts in Address Book by default. Under advanced... for both of them, I have everything checked except for delete... because i didn't want to take a chance of losing any contacts. does anyone have any experience with getting PM's address book and Apple's to keep good sync with each other? any documentation anywhere? i should note that i put most of my contacts within folders in PM for organization's sake. that way, when contacts are loose i can file them later and everyone gets categorized in a folder. any help or pointers would be much appreciated. thanks, angel - PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G --- PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
Re(2): address book sync
Well, I don't have a better solution. You can export your PowerMail address book in Apple Address Book format, import into Address Book, merge all the duplicates, and then reimport into PowerMail. For what it is worth, be careful with the automagic Look for Duplicates... menu item in Address Book--it has cost me hours of time undoing what it did. A angel (li...@urbanpeace.net) said on 1/24/09: hi Alan, thanks for the help. it seems absurd that we shouldn't be able to to sync or syncH with address book since so many other programs are using. i tried to avoid using it, but the wave is heavily towards using it's database for just about everything (including of course iphone, PIMs, bulk mail programs, etc.) the problem is that i've used PM much longer and more frequently than Addres Book, especially when it comes to keep email addresses up to date. so deleting PM's contacts means losing many (and likely more up-to-date) email addresses. my Address Book more often holds snail mail that i'd like to keep for that rare occasion of needing that ancient reference, PM more often has not only email, but updated email. but if i want to use virtually any other program, it's not PM that those talk to. anyone else have a work around that doesn't require losing PM's contacts or retyping what could be 100s? thanks again and cheers, angel Quoting Alan Harper l...@alanharper.com: Hi Angel First, I asked about the same question in 2006 and got the following response: Sean McBride (cwat...@cam.org) said on 10/12/06: Alan Harper (l...@alanharper.com) on 2006-10-11 19:50 said: SHORT QUESTION: Has anyone figured out a way to keep the PowerMail address book and Apple's AddressBook synchronized reliably? Short Answer: no. That being said, here is the recipe I use, and it seems to work pretty well. 1) Delete every contact in your PowerMail address book 2) Set your Synchronization in PowerMail to: Update PowerMail from Apple's Address Book ? On PowerMail startup ? When PowerMail is brought to the front (this is optional, uncheck if you wish) Click on Advanced and check every check box 3) Leave unchecked Update Apple's Address Book from PowerMail 4) Never use the Add to Address Book menu item That has worked for me. But when it fails, repeat step (1) above and then resynchronize. PS--Back up your address books (in PowerMail and Apple's Address Book) before you start! angel (li...@urbanpeace.net) said on 1/22/09: greetings, i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing. When i first did a sync, new groups were created in PM that matched the groups in Address Book, but there were no contacts in the groups. i thought it was because the PM groups were inside of folders, so i removed them from the folders, added contacts to several of the empty groups and then re-synced. PM re-created any new groups I made in Address Book, but again, with no contacts. WORSE though, is that it deleted the contacts i added to each group in PM before the sync. it also creates folders called Apple Address Book Contacts with contacts in it and i don't understand why those particular contacts get put in those folders. i have the following checked in preferences: - Update from Apple's Address Book on PM startup - Update Appe's Address Book from PM automatically - Open contacts in Address Book by default. Under advanced... for both of them, I have everything checked except for delete... because i didn't want to take a chance of losing any contacts. does anyone have any experience with getting PM's address book and Apple's to keep good sync with each other? any documentation anywhere? i should note that i put most of my contacts within folders in PM for organization's sake. that way, when contacts are loose i can file them later and everyone gets categorized in a folder. any help or pointers would be much appreciated. thanks, angel - PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G --- PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
Re: address book sync
Even if you get it sync-ed ok, it adds work or home as comments to all your PowerMail addresses - and it will not be right. A mess. In the past most people have suggested not to use this feature. Best, Dave Nathanson i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing.
Re(2): address book sync
I'm sorry, Dave, but what is the problem with having a work or home comment in the address book? I could not live without having my PowerMail and Address Book addresses automatically synched. (Yes, Apple writes syncing and synced, but I think those words are correctly spelled synching and synched, else one could add a k like trafficking and trafficked.) One problem I forgot to point out in my last post is that PowerMail cannot intuit which is the primary email address, and you need to put a dot next to the correct one in the PowerMail address book. And, every time PowerMail gets confused and you re-import the addresses from Address Book, you need to tell it again which is the primary email. A Dave Nathanson (dave.li...@nathanson.org) said on 1/23/09: Even if you get it sync-ed ok, it adds work or home as comments to all your PowerMail addresses - and it will not be right. A mess. In the past most people have suggested not to use this feature. Best, Dave Nathanson i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing.
address book sync
greetings, i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing. When i first did a sync, new groups were created in PM that matched the groups in Address Book, but there were no contacts in the groups. i thought it was because the PM groups were inside of folders, so i removed them from the folders, added contacts to several of the empty groups and then re-synced. PM re-created any new groups I made in Address Book, but again, with no contacts. WORSE though, is that it deleted the contacts i added to each group in PM before the sync. it also creates folders called Apple Address Book Contacts with contacts in it and i don't understand why those particular contacts get put in those folders. i have the following checked in preferences: - Update from Apple's Address Book on PM startup - Update Appe's Address Book from PM automatically - Open contacts in Address Book by default. Under advanced... for both of them, I have everything checked except for delete... because i didn't want to take a chance of losing any contacts. does anyone have any experience with getting PM's address book and Apple's to keep good sync with each other? any documentation anywhere? i should note that i put most of my contacts within folders in PM for organization's sake. that way, when contacts are loose i can file them later and everyone gets categorized in a folder. any help or pointers would be much appreciated. thanks, angel - PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
address book sync
greetings, i'm having trouble with Address Book syncing. When i first did a sync, new groups were created in PM that matched the groups in Address Book, but there were no contacts in the groups. i thought it was because the PM groups were inside of folders, so i removed them from the folders, added contacts to several of the empty groups and then re-synced. PM re-created any new groups I made in Address Book, but again, with no contacts. WORSE though, is that it deleted the contacts i added to each group in PM before the sync. it also creates folders called Apple Address Book Contacts with contacts in it and i don't understand why those particular contacts get put in those folders. i have the following checked in preferences: - Update from Apple's Address Book on PM startup - Update Appe's Address Book from PM automatically - Open contacts in Address Book by default. Under advanced... for both of them, I have everything checked except for delete... because i didn't want to take a chance of losing any contacts. does anyone have any experience with getting PM's address book and Apple's to keep good sync with each other? any documentation anywhere? i should note that i put most of my contacts within folders in PM for organization's sake. that way, when contacts are loose i can file them later and everyone gets categorized in a folder. any help or pointers would be much appreciated. thanks, angel - PM 6.0.1 | OSX 10.5.5 | PowerBook G4 1.5Ghz 2G
Re: address book sync?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 4/18/05 said Is there way to sync PM address book with Apple Address book? I would love that when I add contact to address book in PM that is would show up in my Apple Address Book as well... Anybody got a solution for this? thanks much! Yes, Power Mail has a solution for this. Check the menu preferences under synchronization. -- Barbara Needham
address book sync?
Is there way to sync PM address book with Apple Address book? I would love that when I add contact to address book in PM that is would show up in my Apple Address Book as well... Anybody got a solution for this? thanks much! m
Re: Address book sync?
I'd rather have it sync with my Palm address book, but that's another story. Same here, I use the apple Address book rather as a backup or to get my addresses also onto my desktop where rarely I use Mail to send something (faster then first transferring to the PB (which is my admin station)) - the reason I use the Address book so little is because if I use that to sync with my Palm my Palm's own syn gets disabled and the Address book does not (or did not) create categories and then also stopped syncing to the Palm which I did not want to have happen and it was a big mess when I tried getting Palm-Apple-PM as one big happy sync family. it sounded great but either I had too little coffee that day or there are truly still a few flaws in the process. The other day I was positively surprised when I changed an address here in PM and it automatically updated to the Address book (had forgotten that I had set it to that;-) it's a nice feature. ---marlyse
Re: Address book sync?
Jonathan Greene on 3/12/03 said How exactly does this work? It seems to work at about 80%... I have contacts who have been added in PM, and who make it back to AB, but not all. Same the other way. Not all my original names have made it to PM. Also, while groups have synced over, not all the names in the groups are there. Thoughts? Well, my own personal opinion [how can anyone have an opinion that isn't there own personal opinion, come to think of it] is that neither address book is really a very good one. I don't like the V-card format which the Apple address book uses. The PowerMail address book is actually more what I like, a simple name and address, but it does have its limitations. The only sync I actually do is every once in a while so there is a backup in the Apple address book, but I don't actually use that one. I'd rather have it sync with my Palm address book, but that's another story. So, there is my non-answer to your question. Except that apparently I agree some improvement is needed. -- Barbara Needham
Address book sync?
How exactly does this work? It seems to work at about 80%... I have contacts who have been added in PM, and who make it back to AB, but not all. Same the other way. Not all my original names have made it to PM. Also, while groups have synced over, not all the names in the groups are there. Thoughts? -- Two trout are dining in a restaurant when one of them starts waving his empty glass in the air. The head waiter turns to another waiter and says, I think there's a fish out of water.
