RE: Bugs in powermail...
a msg from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/17/03 7:08 AM included ... You might want to check the options for receiving mail where there are more than one POP account - the options are sequential or all at once - I found that if I had it set to all at once I had similar symptoms; automated or scheduled connections stalled part way but manual connections worked fine. Suggest you try changing to sequential or one-at-a-time and see if that solves it... I only have one account to check and I have tried resetting the option to no effect on the problem.
Re(2): Bugs in powermail...
Thanks for the tip... will let everyone know if that fixes it. -- If intelligence were taken out of my life, it would only be more or less reduced. If I had no one to love, it would be ruined. -- Henri de Montherlant, Explicit Mysterium, 1931 on Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:08:16 + / Stuart McKnight said: You might want to check the options for receiving mail where there are more than one POP account - the options are sequential or all at once - I found that if I had it set to all at once I had similar symptoms; automated or scheduled connections stalled part way but manual connections worked fine. Suggest you try changing to sequential or one-at-a-time and see if that solves it... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of martin schiller Sent: 17 March 2003 14:44 To: PowerMail discussions Subject: Re: Bugs in powermail... I've been painting the area I use for my OS X box with PowerMail so I've been using my iMac 9.2 with Claris Emailer. In the time that I've been using eMailer I haven't noticed any of the stalled connections that I was having with PowerMail. I reconnected the OS X machine and used Powermail, and the first connection that I had scheduled stalled - the status window remains open displaying 'downloading xx messages...' and remains there until it is dismissed by a mouse click on the 'stop' button. I tried running eMailer and PowerMail alternately from the OS X box, eMailer from classic mode, and I experienced the problem twice more with Powermail over a 24 hour timeframe. I've not had the problem at all with eMailer. I'm beginning to suspect that the culprit in my connection problems is not my ISP, but PowerMail. Your message could not be processed because you are not allowed to post messages to the PowerMail discussions list. For more information, you can contact the list administrator at: Postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bugs in powermail...
You might want to check the options for receiving mail where there are more than one POP account - the options are sequential or all at once - I found that if I had it set to all at once I had similar symptoms; automated or scheduled connections stalled part way but manual connections worked fine. Suggest you try changing to sequential or one-at-a-time and see if that solves it... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of martin schiller Sent: 17 March 2003 14:44 To: PowerMail discussions Subject: Re: Bugs in powermail... I've been painting the area I use for my OS X box with PowerMail so I've been using my iMac 9.2 with Claris Emailer. In the time that I've been using eMailer I haven't noticed any of the stalled connections that I was having with PowerMail. I reconnected the OS X machine and used Powermail, and the first connection that I had scheduled stalled - the status window remains open displaying 'downloading xx messages...' and remains there until it is dismissed by a mouse click on the 'stop' button. I tried running eMailer and PowerMail alternately from the OS X box, eMailer from classic mode, and I experienced the problem twice more with Powermail over a 24 hour timeframe. I've not had the problem at all with eMailer. I'm beginning to suspect that the culprit in my connection problems is not my ISP, but PowerMail. Your message could not be processed because you are not allowed to post messages to the PowerMail discussions list. For more information, you can contact the list administrator at: Postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re(2): Bugs in powermail...
on Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:43:52 -0800 / martin schiller said: I've been painting the area I use for my OS X box with PowerMail so I've been using my iMac 9.2 with Claris Emailer. In the time that I've been using eMailer I haven't noticed any of the stalled connections that I was having with PowerMail. I reconnected the OS X machine and used Powermail, and the first connection that I had scheduled stalled - the status window remains open displaying 'downloading xx messages...' and remains there until it is dismissed by a mouse click on the 'stop' button. I tried running eMailer and PowerMail alternately from the OS X box, eMailer from classic mode, and I experienced the problem twice more with Powermail over a 24 hour timeframe. I've not had the problem at all with eMailer. I'm beginning to suspect that the culprit in my connection problems is not my ISP, but PowerMail. I get that occasionally as well though I cannot attribute it to any specific account of the 4 I check. It either eventually goes through or I have to hit stop and try again. -- For seven and half years I've worked alongside President Reagan. We've had triumphs. Made some mistakes. We've had some sex... uh...setbacks. - President George Bush (stated when Vice President)
Re: Bugs in powermail...
I've been painting the area I use for my OS X box with PowerMail so I've been using my iMac 9.2 with Claris Emailer. In the time that I've been using eMailer I haven't noticed any of the stalled connections that I was having with PowerMail. I reconnected the OS X machine and used Powermail, and the first connection that I had scheduled stalled - the status window remains open displaying 'downloading xx messages...' and remains there until it is dismissed by a mouse click on the 'stop' button. I tried running eMailer and PowerMail alternately from the OS X box, eMailer from classic mode, and I experienced the problem twice more with Powermail over a 24 hour timeframe. I've not had the problem at all with eMailer. I'm beginning to suspect that the culprit in my connection problems is not my ISP, but PowerMail.
Re: Bugs in powermail...
Greg Saylor wrote: I have tried this several times.. Even individually clicking on each message and clicking send -- nothing causes the send process to get started... Right now I have about 200 messages in my outbox with a waiting status... Strange... You can try to select them, click in the waiting popup menu in the status column, change the status to draft, then click the send button in the toolbar. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - PowerMail is a simple yet powerful email app. Works as it should with none unneeded features that bloat so many email clients. It may not be the cheapest email client for Mac OS X but if mail is important to you -as it is with most professionals- it is worth every cent. The support is fast and outstanding. PowerMail user comment on www.vesiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Bugs in powermail...
Greg Saylor on 3/16/03 said I have tried this several times.. Even individually clicking on each message and clicking send -- nothing causes the send process to get started... Right now I have about 200 messages in my outbox with a waiting status... Any other ideas?.. Well, it seems kind of tedious to try this 200 times -- but double click on the message in the list so that you have a window open with just the mail you want to send. Try to type something in this mail. PowerMail will ask you what you want to do with this. Of the choices, choose change as draft. Then Send. If you want to make sure they go, then hit your command minus to send it off right away. If you want to be brave, do a few and then go to command minus [or from the menu, of course]. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Bugs in powermail...
See comments below... Greg Saylor wrote: #1. If you set in a mail rule to first move a message to a folder and then redirect it... The message will not appear as new in the folder it was moved to.. That is not really a bug. The status of a message is either unread, read, redirected etc... It can't be at the same time unread and redirected. If you want the message to remain unread after the auto-redirect filter, you must add a set status to unread action. #2. As a consequence of #1, sometimes my internet connection goes down and there are a bunch of emails in my out box, with a status of waiting.. Even when I click Send waiting messages they won't send.. Yes, there is a problem here; you must resend the messages manually: select them in the out tray and press the send button in the toolbar (or use the mail/send menu). I have tried this several times.. Even individually clicking on each message and clicking send -- nothing causes the send process to get started... Right now I have about 200 messages in my outbox with a waiting status... Any other ideas?.. - Greg Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering
Re: Bugs in powermail...
Greg Saylor on 3/15/03 said Yes, they are indented.. But that is not what I mean... I have a ton of folders - literally one for each customer, mailing list, etc... It takes forever to scroll this list down to the folder I want to set And as I add more customers/etc the problem just keeps getting worse and worse... The folders are in a hierarchal view for getting into them to read and respond to messages - the same type of interface in that list for selecting which folder to move a message into would make this a lot easier... I hope you know what I mean now... I think you mean collapsible? Like the down arrow or across arrow? I'm wondering if you could use a filter for your customers, Execute Apple Script, and have an applescript that sorts messages by e-mail address into the appropriate folder. Perhaps it could even be written so if there is not a folder for that e- mail address to make a new one. I don't know how to write an applescript, but it was just an idea. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Bugs in powermail...
Greg Saylor wrote: #1. If you set in a mail rule to first move a message to a folder and then redirect it... The message will not appear as new in the folder it was moved to.. That is not really a bug. The status of a message is either unread, read, redirected etc... It can't be at the same time unread and redirected. If you want the message to remain unread after the auto-redirect filter, you must add a set status to unread action. #2. As a consequence of #1, sometimes my internet connection goes down and there are a bunch of emails in my out box, with a status of waiting.. Even when I click Send waiting messages they won't send.. Yes, there is a problem here; you must resend the messages manually: select them in the out tray and press the send button in the toolbar (or use the mail/send menu). Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - PowerMail est un outil pratique, intuitif et efficace. On n'éblouit pas l'utilisateur avec des icônes et des fioritures partout, on fait dans l'efficace. Et là où les auteurs de ce logiciel font très fort, c'est que malgré cette politique d'interface, le logiciel reste agréable et totalement intégré au style Aqua. Beau et pratique, il fallait le faire ! http://www.cuk.ch/articles/tests/afftest.php3?aff=120 Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Bugs in powermail...
Yes, they are indented.. But that is not what I mean... I have a ton of folders - literally one for each customer, mailing list, etc... It takes forever to scroll this list down to the folder I want to set And as I add more customers/etc the problem just keeps getting worse and worse... The folders are in a hierarchal view for getting into them to read and respond to messages - the same type of interface in that list for selecting which folder to move a message into would make this a lot easier... I hope you know what I mean now... - Greg In the Filters screens, when selecting a folder to move messages into it is very difficult because there is no heirachal view available... Here, the folder names appear quite noticeably indented in the large menu reflecting their hierarchical position - if this is what you mean? - Christian
Re: Bugs in powermail...
Yes, but that would entail going through every one of my filters and fixing them... It is probably what I will end up doing -- as exhasperating as this is This does seem to be a bug and it outta be fixed.. - Greg Couldn't you add Set Status to unread to the filter? (as last action) -- Best regards, Koen
Re: Bugs in powermail...
In the Filters screens, when selecting a folder to move messages into it is very difficult because there is no heirachal view available... Here, the folder names appear quite noticeably indented in the large menu reflecting their hierarchical position - if this is what you mean? - Christian
Re: Bugs in powermail...
This list is only as difficult as you make it. It is in the folder order you created. -- Enemy fighters at two o'clock! Roger. What should I do until then? -- Calvin and Hobbes on Sat, 15 Mar 2003 02:48:38 -0800 / Greg Saylor said: In the Filters screens, when selecting a folder to move messages into it is very difficult because there is no heirachal view available... All the mailboxes are presented in a listbox (or whatever it is).. This makes navigation VERY difficult for installations which have a lot of folders... A better interface for this would be greatly appreciated...
Re: Bugs in powermail...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 02:48:38 -0800, Greg Saylor wrote: #1. If you set in a mail rule to first move a message to a folder and then redirect it... The message will not appear as new in the folder it was moved to.. (the folder does not have a BOLD character, which makes it impossible to determine if anby of your subfolders have mesages you need to look at...).. I happen to have over 200 message rules and now apparently I need to go and change them all to make this work because I implemented a solution which forwards all of my email to an archive account in case something like this ever happens again... Setting the email to first redirect and then move the message is not a problem, everything works the way it should... But this is a total pain in the ass to go through and fix every single one of my mail rules which I have gone through the painstaking process of converting into powermail... Couldn't you add Set Status to unread to the filter? (as last action) -- Best regards, Koen 'Organic beings are constantly fighting for life. Every breath, every motion brings you one instant closer to your death. With that kind of heritage and destiny, how can you deny yourself? How can you expect yourself to give up violence?' -- Durandal
Bugs in powermail...
Hello, I posted recently about a massive problem I had which involved the loss of all of my email... But, I have calmed down about that particular subject (I recognized early on that it was partially my fault).. However, there appear to be two bugs in powermail which need to be fixed: #1. If you set in a mail rule to first move a message to a folder and then redirect it... The message will not appear as new in the folder it was moved to.. (the folder does not have a BOLD character, which makes it impossible to determine if anby of your subfolders have mesages you need to look at...).. I happen to have over 200 message rules and now apparently I need to go and change them all to make this work because I implemented a solution which forwards all of my email to an archive account in case something like this ever happens again... Setting the email to first redirect and then move the message is not a problem, everything works the way it should... But this is a total pain in the ass to go through and fix every single one of my mail rules which I have gone through the painstaking process of converting into powermail... #2. As a consequence of #1, sometimes my internet connection goes down and there are a bunch of emails in my out box, with a status of waiting.. Even when I click Send waiting messages they won't send.. And individually opening them and clicking send sometimes gets the process started, but more often than not -- it doesn't... Currently I have about 150 messages in my outbox with a waiting status... These are, clearly, bugs... But I have on recommendation I would like to make as well: In the Filters screens, when selecting a folder to move messages into it is very difficult because there is no heirachal view available... All the mailboxes are presented in a listbox (or whatever it is).. This makes navigation VERY difficult for installations which have a lot of folders... A better interface for this would be greatly appreciated... Thanks as alwasy! - Greg
