Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
Kjell Olausson said: They are. An application that crashes should not affect other applications. I have one recurring problem involving the Finder and problems with Network volumes. The Finder keeps spinning the beachball and kill commands in the dock or in the terminal, doesn't work. That's kind of amazing. This particular problem started in Jaguar (often) and now in Panther (less often). I also have changed 3 machines since so it's not RAM or hardware problem. It's a real OS X problem. PM 5.0.1 | OS X 10.3.5 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD
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Urs Gruetzner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for this helpful hint, it resolved the problem! What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. They are. An application that crashes should not affect other applications. But you are talking about command keys and they can be picked up by any application that listens for such commands. -- Regards, Kjell Olausson http://www.kio.nu Alingsås, Sweden There's too much blood in my caffeine system.
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Emily Jackson wrote: Good idea would be to contact DT's author (James is pretty good at responding). He has addressed this problem on the DragThing message board (http:// www.dragthing.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=23). The workaround he suggests is to change DragThing's preferences (change Advanced-Update Application Icons to Never). He seems to think the problem is with PM's AppleScript handling. This problem is fixed in PowerMail 5.0.2 and 5.1b1. Best regards Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I've recently switched from Entourage X and I want to say that PowerMail is really slick. Small, fast and versatile. Andy Fragen, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
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Mittwoch, 29. September 2004 15:26 Uhr Mirko Kranenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] That seems to be a very plausible explanation! Future releases of DragThing and/or PowerMail should handle the matter more gracefully, though. But: the support for PowerMail by Dragthing is in itself a very good thing, as way too many apps focus on Mail and Entourage only. Mirko On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:19:11 -0400, C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. I thought it was that the newer version of DragThing messages PowerMail to get a count of unread messages in the inbox to display in its docks, and that disrupts the First Aid recovery somehow. I don't think it interacts any other way. Yes that seems to explain the reason why. BTW DragThing - as excellent as it is - has another little drawback in combination with ReadIris 9.0, if someone uses this app too: when launching ReadIris from DT ReadIris does not display his working window, the application remains unusable. A normal launch from finder does not show this problem. Good idea would be to contact DT's author (James is pretty good at responding). Regards, Alex Newman
Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
That seems to be a very plausible explanation! Future releases of DragThing and/or PowerMail should handle the matter more gracefully, though. But: the support for PowerMail by Dragthing is in itself a very good thing, as way too many apps focus on Mail and Entourage only. Mirko On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:19:11 -0400, C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. I thought it was that the newer version of DragThing messages PowerMail to get a count of unread messages in the inbox to display in its docks, and that disrupts the First Aid recovery somehow. I don't think it interacts any other way. Chris --
Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. I thought it was that the newer version of DragThing messages PowerMail to get a count of unread messages in the inbox to display in its docks, and that disrupts the First Aid recovery somehow. I don't think it interacts any other way. Chris --
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Dienstag, 28. September 2004 18:56 Uhr Pat O'Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It appears that on 28/9/04 at 5:22 pm Urs Gruetzner spake thus: It seems that several users have the same problem reported, but I newer saw any help posted here. Did I miss something during my absence last week? Urs Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. Thanks for this helpful hint, it resolved the problem! What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. Urs
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It appears that on 28/9/04 at 5:22 pm Urs Gruetzner spake thus: It seems that several users have the same problem reported, but I newer saw any help posted here. Did I miss something during my absence last week? Urs Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. -- Pat O'Halloran http://www.danu.co.uk He would have to learn the hard way. The problem with the hard way was you only got one lesson. - Terry Pratchett
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On 28/9/2004 at 6:22 PM I saw Urs Gruetzner type: It seems that several users have the same problem reported, but I newer saw any help posted here. Did I miss something during my absence last week? Urs Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 20:17 Uhr Zeph Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greets - I tried to compact my database from the File menu, and crashed. Figured I should run PM First Aid, but it crashes a couple seconds after bringing up the (entirely greyed-out) First Aid window. Help? --- Is This The Answer? --- I felt this tip was too good to keep for myself, so I am copying both the list, and James Thomson of DragThing on it! Mirko -- Mirko Kranenburg Maastricht, Netherlands e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PowerBook G4 (15 FW-800) OS X 10.3.5 Freeway Pro 3.5.12, NavPack, GraphPack PowerMail 5.0.1, 3 panes The whole MarinerPak Bill Schjelderup wrote on Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:44:02 -0600: I had this happen too. It turned out to be related to the latest version of DragThing. All I did was quit Dragthing and I was able to rebuild my database, and compact the data file. I hope this turns out to be your problem too, losing email even with a day old backup is a pain.
Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
It seems that several users have the same problem reported, but I newer saw any help posted here. Did I miss something during my absence last week? Urs Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 20:17 Uhr Zeph Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greets - I tried to compact my database from the File menu, and crashed. Figured I should run PM First Aid, but it crashes a couple seconds after bringing up the (entirely greyed-out) First Aid window. Help? z
Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
I have the same problem: the first aid screen is short-lived and ends in unexpected quit. I believe the beta that was anounced was supposed to solve that, but I have lost the linkdue to a PowerMail-database crash. My backup was recent, but it just made me miss that mail. Anyone care to foward the link again? Thanks! -- Mirko Kranenburg Maastricht, Netherlands e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PowerBook G4 (15 FW-800) OS X 10.3.5 Freeway Pro 3.5.12, NavPack, GraphPack PowerMail 5.0.1, 3 panes The whole MarinerPak Zeph Bender wrote on Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:17:12 -0700: Greets - I tried to compact my database from the File menu, and crashed. Figured I should run PM First Aid, but it crashes a couple seconds after bringing up the (entirely greyed-out) First Aid window. Help? z
