Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[Bob Parks]

A bit more on the keychain issues.

I did do the keychain first aid as someone mentioned. (I had never seen
that command before). All of the errors shown were in PM related passwords.

PM accounts that had the password in the keychain would work fine for a
"connect..." connection, but would fail for a schedule.  No warning or
error message, the connection just did not happen.

PM accounts that did not use the keychain worked fine, both for manual
connections and schedules.

Now, when I moved to Leopard, the first thing I tried to run was PM and
that was before I knew of the keychain patch, and I met all the
requirements for having the keychain fail.   Maybe if I would have run
the patch first, it would have been different.

Bob
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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[T.L. Miller]

On 11/1/07, at 9:20 PM, listes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>What you are telling us is, PM now works because you gave up using
>keychain.

Yes.

>For sure PM works fine, but I understand your keychain may be
>malfunctioning, which may raise trouble elsewhere.

I always install the latest updates and I'm using 1Password and all is
performing faultlessly. 

I can't ask for more.


Tom Miller
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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[listes]

T.L. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >> Unchecking "Save passwords in Mac OS keychain" returned
> >> things to normal. 
> >
> >So, you still have the keychain bug. Your keychain doesn't work. Did you
> >install the apple update?
> 
> I have all updates. I also have been using 1Password for the last 3 or 4
> months.
> 
> PowerMail is now working fine -- exactly as it did before Leopard.

What you are telling us is, PM now works because you gave up using
keychain.
For sure PM works fine, but I understand your keychain may be
malfunctioning, which may raise trouble elsewhere.

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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[T.L. Miller]

On 10/31/07, at 6:35 PM, listes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>T.L. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Unchecking "Save passwords in Mac OS keychain" returned
>> things to normal. 
>
>So, you still have the keychain bug. Your keychain doesn't work. Did you
>install the apple update?

I have all updates. I also have been using 1Password for the last 3 or 4
months.

PowerMail is now working fine -- exactly as it did before Leopard.


Tom Miller
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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[listes]

T.L. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Unchecking "Save passwords in Mac OS keychain" returned
> things to normal. 

So, you still have the keychain bug. Your keychain doesn't work. Did you
install the apple update?

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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[T.L. Miller]

I found out what prevented PM from only retrieving messages messages
from my ISP's server and not .Mac on the schedule set up in PM -- every
2 minutes. Unchecking "Save passwords in Mac OS keychain" returned
things to normal. Migration Assistant must have sent a sent an electron
or two to the wrong place.


On 10/29/07, at 2:15 PM, T.L. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>On 10/29/07, at 2:49 PM, listes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>
>>This comes from a bug in Tiger -serious!
>>There is an update to install.
>>I found the issue before the update appeared, here is my understanding
>>of it, which probably is quite uncertain:
>>
>>- for macs where OSX has been installed for a very long time (e. g.
>>since 10.0)
>>- and where one uses a very short admin name
>
>Well, my PowerMail experience with Leopard could be because of some
>glitch carried to my current iMactel via Migration Assistant, I don't know.
>
>Here is my current situation. I can download my .Mac messages even
>though my .Mac password won't stay in the Mail Accounts Sending and
>Receiving fields.  I have to Connect or Connect Again to get those
>messages sitting at .Mac. 
>
>The password for messages sent to my mailbox at my ISP stays in the
>PowerMail fields. ONLY those messages sent to my address at the ISP are
>downloaded at the Mail Scheduling times.
>
>I guess deleting some Preference and re-doing the Mail Accounts would
>help, right?

Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[listes]

T.L. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I guess deleting some Preference and re-doing the Mail Accounts would
> help, right?

not sure, if you didn't install the keychain upgrade. 
If it is a keychain issue, nothing will improve unless e.g. you ask PM
to store the passwords itself internally instead of using keychain (but
in any case you should correct the keychain -again, *if* it is a
keychain issue)

HH
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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[T.L. Miller]

On 10/29/07, at 2:49 PM, listes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>This comes from a bug in Tiger -serious!
>There is an update to install.
>I found the issue before the update appeared, here is my understanding
>of it, which probably is quite uncertain:
>
>- for macs where OSX has been installed for a very long time (e. g.
>since 10.0)
>- and where one uses a very short admin name

Well, my PowerMail experience with Leopard could be because of some
glitch carried to my current iMactel via Migration Assistant, I don't know.

Here is my current situation. I can download my .Mac messages even
though my .Mac password won't stay in the Mail Accounts Sending and
Receiving fields.  I have to Connect or Connect Again to get those
messages sitting at .Mac. 

The password for messages sent to my mailbox at my ISP stays in the
PowerMail fields. ONLY those messages sent to my address at the ISP are
downloaded at the Mail Scheduling times.

I guess deleting some Preference and re-doing the Mail Accounts would
help, right?




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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[listes]

T.L. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> PowerMail didn't connect -- my passwords were missing. Every time I put
> them back and save they disappear and PM can't connect.

This comes from a bug in Tiger -serious!
There is an update to install.
I found the issue before the update appeared, here is my understanding
of it, which probably is quite uncertain:

- for macs where OSX has been installed for a very long time (e. g.
since 10.0)
- and where one uses a very short admin name
- the updating program has trouble transfering the old keychain
- instead it saves it with a funny name somewhere, "login_renamed1"
- and then when you restart you have no more keychain
- this must raise trouble not only with PM but with every other app that
uses keychain, including e. g. your airport autoconnection etc.

What I did is launch the keychain managing app and require that this
login_renamed1 be the default keychain, to be open at login. It solved
my passwords issues. I didn't manage to rename the said keychain :-(
Then one hour later Apple issued the keychain patch, I ran it, saw
nothing new, am still stuck with the funny name, but working so far...

Hervé

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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[T.L. Miller]

After playing with PM and other areas that asked for passwords, PM is
now working fine. I can't really explain what I did that solved the
problems, but the PM problems do seem to be solved.

Dreamweaver has lost its registration in Leopard and Applejack didn't
seem to work, but major problems seem to be few.

Thanks, Tom Miller


On 10/26/07, at 1:11 PM, Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>Have you tried trashing the file "User Prefs" and rebuilding the  
>account from scratch?
>
>
>On Oct 26, 2007, at 12:56 PM, T.L. Miller wrote:
>
>> On 10/24/07, at 2:54 PM, Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>>
>>> Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the  
>>> soon-to-
>>> be-released OS 10.5?
>>
>> I cloned my HD with SuperDuper to a FWHD, erased the HD on my iMactel,
>> installed Leopard on my iMactel's HD, then used Migration Assistant to
>> move everything over from the clone. PowerMail didn't connect -- my
>> passwords were missing. Every time I put them back and save they
>> disappear and PM can't connect.
>>
>> I restarted using the clone (10.4.10) and all is well, but I'm  
>> going to
>> have to figure why my PM passwords won't stick in 10.5.
>>
>>
>> Tom Miller
>> ..
>> "The only time we see the middle of the road is as
>> we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[Justin Beek]

Have you tried trashing the file "User Prefs" and rebuilding the  
account from scratch?



On Oct 26, 2007, at 12:56 PM, T.L. Miller wrote:


On 10/24/07, at 2:54 PM, Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the  
soon-to-

be-released OS 10.5?


I cloned my HD with SuperDuper to a FWHD, erased the HD on my iMactel,
installed Leopard on my iMactel's HD, then used Migration Assistant to
move everything over from the clone. PowerMail didn't connect -- my
passwords were missing. Every time I put them back and save they
disappear and PM can't connect.

I restarted using the clone (10.4.10) and all is well, but I'm  
going to

have to figure why my PM passwords won't stick in 10.5.


Tom Miller
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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[T.L. Miller]

On 10/24/07, at 2:54 PM, Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the soon-to-
>be-released OS 10.5?

I cloned my HD with SuperDuper to a FWHD, erased the HD on my iMactel,
installed Leopard on my iMactel's HD, then used Migration Assistant to
move everything over from the clone. PowerMail didn't connect -- my
passwords were missing. Every time I put them back and save they
disappear and PM can't connect. 

I restarted using the clone (10.4.10) and all is well, but I'm going to
have to figure why my PM passwords won't stick in 10.5.


Tom Miller
..
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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[Paul Collett]

10.5 installed. It's compatible.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:54:06 -0700 Ira Lansing wrote:

>Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the soon-to-
>be-released OS 10.5?
>
>--Ira Lansing
>
>

Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[Sean McBride]

Ira Lansing ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 24/10/07 17:54 said:

>Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the soon-to-
>be-released OS 10.5?

I've been using it for months, and all seems well.

Sean

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Re: OS 10.5 compatibility

[C. A. Niemiec]

>Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the soon-to-
>be-released OS 10.5?

Yes: 

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OS 10.5 compatibility

[Ira Lansing]

Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the soon-to-
be-released OS 10.5?

--Ira Lansing