Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
PowerMail Engineering (jer...@ctmdev.com) on 2009-01-03 6:14 AM said: >>For me, it's acting as follows: >> - I select a message with title "foo bar" >> - I choose 'View Thread' >> - a new window appears showing messages with "foo" and "bar" in their >>subject. Even if not part of the same thread at all. It also misses >>some that are part of the thread. > >Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for >messages whose subject include the exact phrase "foo bar"). That is not >perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but >with the same subject, especially for short subjects like "hello". But >it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has >been changed). Rebuilding indexes (first 4 checkboxes at option-command launch) fixed the problem of missing results. But of course there are still too many results, and results will still be missing if the subject changes. I do hope 6.x will use the In-Reply-To header! Thanks, Sean
Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
Matthias Schmidt (p...@schmidt-system.de) on 2009-01-04 4:32 AM said: >>>Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for >>>messages whose subject include the exact phrase "foo bar"). That is not >>>perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but >>>with the same subject, especially for short subjects like "hello". But >>>it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has >>>been changed). >> >>Why did you choose to use the Subject instead of the In-Reply-To, >>Message-Id, and similar headers? > >I'd ask the same question >It shouldn't be too difficult to implement this as a fixed search for >those headers. I'll add that the way it is done currently makes it not very useful. My Cocoa-dev folder has 116000 messages. Many message subjects are similar. Viewing by thread is important precisely in those situations where you have many many similar messages that you are trying to sort out. Sean
Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
Am/On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:49:14 -0500 schrieb/wrote Sean McBride: >PowerMail Engineering (jer...@ctmdev.com) on 2009-01-03 6:14 AM said: > >>>I'm also confused about how this feature is supposed to work. >>> >>>For me, it's acting as follows: >>> - I select a message with title "foo bar" >>> - I choose 'View Thread' >>> - a new window appears showing messages with "foo" and "bar" in their >>>subject. Even if not part of the same thread at all. It also misses >>>some that are part of the thread. >> >>Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for >>messages whose subject include the exact phrase "foo bar"). That is not >>perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but >>with the same subject, especially for short subjects like "hello". But >>it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has >>been changed). > >Why did you choose to use the Subject instead of the In-Reply-To, >Message-Id, and similar headers? I'd ask the same question It shouldn't be too difficult to implement this as a fixed search for those headers. Thanks and all the best Matthias
Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
PowerMail Engineering (jer...@ctmdev.com) on 2009-01-03 6:14 AM said: >>I'm also confused about how this feature is supposed to work. >> >>For me, it's acting as follows: >> - I select a message with title "foo bar" >> - I choose 'View Thread' >> - a new window appears showing messages with "foo" and "bar" in their >>subject. Even if not part of the same thread at all. It also misses >>some that are part of the thread. > >Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for >messages whose subject include the exact phrase "foo bar"). That is not >perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but >with the same subject, especially for short subjects like "hello". But >it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has >been changed). Why did you choose to use the Subject instead of the In-Reply-To, Message-Id, and similar headers? Are you on Apple's Cocoa list? Maybe you can repro the exact case that I can. See attached screenshot (which I'll send separately since this list doesn't allow attachments). Sean
Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
Sean McBride wrote: >I'm also confused about how this feature is supposed to work. > >For me, it's acting as follows: > - I select a message with title "foo bar" > - I choose 'View Thread' > - a new window appears showing messages with "foo" and "bar" in their >subject. Even if not part of the same thread at all. It also misses >some that are part of the thread. Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for messages whose subject include the exact phrase "foo bar"). That is not perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but with the same subject, especially for short subjects like "hello". But it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has been changed). Jérôme - CTM Engineering - "I'd been using Entourage X ever since switching to Macs 2 years ago and was growing frustrated with its slow searches and increasing instability as my database grew. Decided to look for an alternative and tried Mail, MailSmith, Thunderbird and PowerMail. Settled on PowerMail and am extremely happy with this application." PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
Riva Freifeld (ri...@attglobal.net) on 2008-12-21 3:48 PM said: >I upgraded to PM6 with no problem, and everything works great, except >for 1 little thing: > >When I try to view messages in "Thread" mode, in certain cases but not >all, PM shows me every single message that contains one of the same >words as the selected message in the subject heading, i.e. not just the >thread for the message I selected. For example, when I wanted to see the >thread for a message titled "Thanks!", it showed me every message in the >database with the word "thanks" in the subject line. > >I thought this might have something to do with the search index, but I >had updated the search index shortly before I tried this. I'm also confused about how this feature is supposed to work. For me, it's acting as follows: - I select a message with title "foo bar" - I choose 'View Thread' - a new window appears showing messages with "foo" and "bar" in their subject. Even if not part of the same thread at all. It also misses some that are part of the thread. I hope that's not what it's supposed to do. Behaviour like Mail.app would be better (and could be improved upon). Anyone else try this? -- Sean McBride, B. Eng cwat...@cam.org Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
PM6 "View Thread" problem (minor)
Hello all. I upgraded to PM6 with no problem, and everything works great, except for 1 little thing: When I try to view messages in "Thread" mode, in certain cases but not all, PM shows me every single message that contains one of the same words as the selected message in the subject heading, i.e. not just the thread for the message I selected. For example, when I wanted to see the thread for a message titled "Thanks!", it showed me every message in the database with the word "thanks" in the subject line. I thought this might have something to do with the search index, but I had updated the search index shortly before I tried this. Thanks, Riva New York, NY
