Re: [pro] Learning Lisp the Bump Free Way

2011-01-21 Thread Tord Romstad
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Svante Carl v. Erichsen
svante.v.erich...@web.de wrote:

 I should call it string-conc, conc-string, or conc-string.

I actually agree. What I meant is that if you really want to use a
mathematical operator for this, multiplication is the natural choice.
Your suggestions above -- at least the first two -- are of course
better still.

Tord

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Re: [pro] Learning Lisp the Bump Free Way

2011-01-21 Thread Stas Boukarev
Svante Carl v. Erichsen svante.v.erich...@web.de writes:

 Hi!

 I should call it string-conc, conc-string, or conc-string.  I should
 not expect from first sight that either, string+ or string*, would
 concatenate.  From those names, it also would seem surprising that
 they can take any sequences, not just strings, as arguments.

 I see the main merit of creating such a function of reduced generality
 in that you can pass it around as a simple #'string-conc instead of
 (lambda (rest sequences) (apply #'concatenate 'string sequences)).
Scheme has string-append.

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Re: [pro] Learning Lisp the Bump Free Way

2011-01-21 Thread Zach Beane
Drew Csillag (sounds like cheese-log) dcsil...@google.com writes:

 Not to sound like I'm complaining (quicklisp is awesome btw), but if http://
 www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html had descriptions of what the packages
 actually did (or links to their respective homepage, or docstrings, or
 something), that would be wonderful.

That's one of the reasons why it's still in beta. I need to gather
useful, descriptive info about each project and make it easily
available.

Zach

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Re: [pro] Learning Lisp the Bump Free Way

2011-01-21 Thread Zach Beane
Nick Levine n...@ravenbrook.com writes:

We're getting there. See http://www.quicklisp.org/

Especially, see http://www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html

 It doesn't say what any one of them do. There's no way (am I right?)
 to look up form what I want to do to what exists to do it.

Very true, and something I'd like to add.

Right now it's mostly useful for the I already know I want Hunchentoot,
but what a pain to get all the dependencies group. I need to make it
more useful to the I want to make a website, but what a pain to figure
out where to start group.

Zach

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Re: [pro] Learning Lisp the Bump Free Way

2011-01-21 Thread Steve Morin
I have been a beginner lisp developer for years largely because the is just
a large problem with answering the question I want to make a website, but
what a pain to figure
out where to start, I want to X.  I would be down to contribute.

This lisp learning curve is large, and figuring out the exact resources that
are available is harder.  Especially because it's hard to tell from the
outside what is being maintained and up todate, and what works on which cl
distribution.

This sounds like some thing that can be added to http://common-lisp.net/ or
http://www.cliki.net/

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Zach Beane x...@xach.com wrote:

 Nick Levine n...@ravenbrook.com writes:

 We're getting there. See http://www.quicklisp.org/
 
 Especially, see http://www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html
 
  It doesn't say what any one of them do. There's no way (am I right?)
  to look up form what I want to do to what exists to do it.

 Very true, and something I'd like to add.

 Right now it's mostly useful for the I already know I want Hunchentoot,
 but what a pain to get all the dependencies group. I need to make it
 more useful to the I want to make a website, but what a pain to figure
 out where to start group.

 Zach

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