Re: [NF] Oooo, isn't Vista shiny? (paid to blog positively?)
On Dec 30, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: >> Uh, the review wasn't for the laptop; it was for the Vista OS. >> >> A better analogy would be if Apple sent a killer home theatre system >> to the reviewer for free with no strings attached, on the hope that >> he might evaluate the video iPod. > > What a load of crap. > > Sorry but you have to have a equipment for an OS eval. This is a version of Windows, right? You don't need special hardware for Windows. > The manufacturer, > M$, provided the equipment and set it properly for the tests to be > evaluated. That in itself should be the headline then: Vista - requires extreme hardware configuration to run. > They are trying to stack the deck for a positive eval, sure. > Making the hardware consistent and taking one major point of the a > possible > problem should be done by any manufacturer in this case. I'm sure > that > Apple did it as well ;-> Again, that's my point. You can evaluate Vista on any x86 hardware. You can also evaluate a video iPod using its built-in screen. Sure, a whole home theatre will make it look better, and giving it away will certainly influence the reviewer, consciously or unconciously. The question isn't whether Microsoft was acting ethically. Of course they weren't; you don't succeed in business by being ethical. Apple has also acted unethically at various time in the past; I guess you think that that somehow makes it OK for me, as if I'm some brainless drone who worships Apple. The issue is the ethics of the reviewers who either didn't recognize this for the payola it was, or who chose to ignore that inconvenient fact. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF]Time for My annual New Year's Resolution
I make one resolution every year, and I always keep it. My resolution this year will be to make no other resolutions! John ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
Havent received that one yet.. The one I received was around mid 2006 Don't have it in front of me so don't know the specific date yet... Been thinking about trying it again, but I heavily rely on quicken home and business and don't want to take a chance that it won't work... Anybody know if it works ?? Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Baird Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:39 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? The action pack version is the official version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:22 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? I tried the beta that came with the action pack subscription. Screwed my laptop up, but I think it was special driver problems... Formatted the hard drive and reinstalled xp and everything is fine with new drivers downloaded. Been thinking about trying it again, but decided to wait till the official version came out.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN Universal subscription. John Harvey [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
The action pack version is the official version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:22 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? I tried the beta that came with the action pack subscription. Screwed my laptop up, but I think it was special driver problems... Formatted the hard drive and reinstalled xp and everything is fine with new drivers downloaded. Been thinking about trying it again, but decided to wait till the official version came out.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN Universal subscription. John Harvey [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
I tried the beta that came with the action pack subscription. Screwed my laptop up, but I think it was special driver problems... Formatted the hard drive and reinstalled xp and everything is fine with new drivers downloaded. Been thinking about trying it again, but decided to wait till the official version came out.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN Universal subscription. John Harvey [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with free version of VMware?
We are using the free version of vmware for development and test environments. It is working quite well. We are saving a lot of money, not having to buy servers. As to why we are not using the version you have to pay for, well, you have to pay for it. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Malcolm Greene Sent: Fri 12/29/2006 10:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Experience with free version of VMware? Anyone have any experience with the free version of VMware Server? Background: http://www.vmware.com/products/server_comp.html http://www.vmware.com/products/server/overview.html http://www.vmware.com/products/server/faqs.html I'm curious how you're using this, any gotchas or warnings, and why you decided to or not to purchase the Workstation Edition of VMware. Thanks, Malcolm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] In memory of Daryl and Daryl
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2524408,00.html Saddam - Hung for the Holidays http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] OI ooo, isn't Vista shiny? (paid to blog positively?)
I sent YAG an email informing him that I have two or three blogs, and I can be had for the price of a laptop and software! If anyone is trying to reach me, I'm camped out at the mailbox John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:51 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Oooo, isn't Vista shiny? (paid to blog positively?) Ed Leafe <> wrote: > Uh, the review wasn't for the laptop; it was for the Vista OS. > > A better analogy would be if Apple sent a killer home theatre system > to the reviewer for free with no strings attached, on the hope that > he might evaluate the video iPod. What a load of crap. Sorry but you have to have a equipment for an OS eval. The manufacturer, M$, provided the equipment and set it properly for the tests to be evaluated. They are trying to stack the deck for a positive eval, sure. Making the hardware consistent and taking one major point of the a possible problem should be done by any manufacturer in this case. I'm sure that Apple did it as well ;-> Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: 12/25/2006 10:19 AM [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Oooo, isn't Vista shiny? (paid to blog positively?)
Ed Leafe <> wrote: > Uh, the review wasn't for the laptop; it was for the Vista OS. > > A better analogy would be if Apple sent a killer home theatre system > to the reviewer for free with no strings attached, on the hope that > he might evaluate the video iPod. What a load of crap. Sorry but you have to have a equipment for an OS eval. The manufacturer, M$, provided the equipment and set it properly for the tests to be evaluated. They are trying to stack the deck for a positive eval, sure. Making the hardware consistent and taking one major point of the a possible problem should be done by any manufacturer in this case. I'm sure that Apple did it as well ;-> Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: 12/25/2006 10:19 AM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Help your DU Friends to get over Saddam execution
Just tell them it's a late term abortion! Saddam - Hung for the Holidays http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with Vista?
You had better get out your checkbook; because, the new toy does not come cheap: http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/vista.asp Regards, LelandJ john harvey wrote: >I've got a great quote from John Harvey. All software is beta! > >John > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Oooo, isn't Vista shiny? (paid to blog positively?)
Q: Why are there rules in congress against our legislators receiving gifts from lobbyist? A: Can anyone say "Quid Pro Quo": http://www.answers.com/topic/quid-pro-quo Regards, LelandJ Ted Roche wrote: >On 12/28/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Is MSFT paying bloggers to say nice things? >> >> >> > >"Do you really think Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal goes to >some secret underground Apple Store to buy his hot new iPod to review >a month before it's even announced? Do you think hardware review sites >sneak into processor fabs late at night to gain access to hardware >samples that won't be on retail shelves for months? Do you really >think they're sending all of that stuff back? Some are, some aren't, >and to be honest, I have no idea if Mossberg keeps the top-secret >stuff he's sent or not..." > >http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061228-8514.html > > > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
I've got a great quote from John Harvey. All software is beta! John ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Oooo, isn't Vista shiny? (paid to blog positively?)
On 12/30/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uh, the review wasn't for the laptop; it was for the Vista OS. > I hadn't followed the case that closely; I know MS was the one who sent the units to some of their influencers. Was Acer not involved? > A better analogy would be if Apple sent a killer home theatre system > to the reviewer for free with no strings attached, on the hope that > he might evaluate the video iPod. True. But the author was one of the Ars Technica's principals and he was talking a lot about what Ars does and how it feels to be a dinky review site in a tough world. "Even though we do not avail ourselves of these unsolicited opportunities when they come our way, this whole debacle has convinced me that Ars needs a disclosure page wherein we list any potential conflicts of interest our authors have relating to the subject matter we cover. Look for it in the next month or so." Disclosure and transparency is good. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with Vista?
Vista comes in both a 32 bit, transition version, or a native 64 bit version: http://pubs.vmware.com/guestnotes/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=GOS_Install&file=guestos_winvista.html or http://tinyurl.com/yajweo Regards, LelandJ Kevin Cully wrote: >I haven't been running Vista but I was just looking at the latest PC >Magazine. I'm reading the “Vista: The Essential Guide” (January 2007) >and it's full of confusing contradictory information. BTW, this is a >“double issue” but somehow, it still feels light compared to what it was >historically. > >We start with the “First Word” by Jim Louderback. He starts his article >off with the statement “Our long,national nightmare is over!” I'm sure >he had a grin on when he wrote that. > >Louderback was interviewing Jim Allchin about Vista. Allchin stated >“It's preordained that we are moving to 64 bits. I cannot predict how >long it will take, but we will get there.” Louderback reports that >Allchin believes “that with Vista, the time is now.” Okay. I'm confused. >Are we now at 64 bits or not with Vista? Are all of the driver >manufacturers delivering 64 bit versions? We'll have to see what kind of >fallout this is going to have in the public sector. > >Louderback goes on speaking with Allchin about IPv6. Louderback states >“Why go IPv6? Better quality of service, better connectivity, and the >death of NAT.” Is the death of NAT a good thing? I wouldn't want all of >my machines to have a public IP address and be addressable from the >outside world. This puts too great a of a burden on my firewall. NAT is >a great tool (one of many) in protecting my machines from attack. Is >there something that is going to take it's place? > >Looking deeper into the magazine we have to differing opinions from >Michael J. Miller and Bill Machrone. Miller states “Though long overdue, >Vista offers some impressive features. The graphics finally takes >advantage of the hardware that most PCs have had for quite some time.” >The very next page (after the Matrox advertisement) Machrone states >“Don't upgrade to Vista – Buy a new computer instead. To get all the >performance that Vista has to offer, chances are somewhere between good >and excellent that the system now on your desk isn't going to deliver.” >He goes on later to state “... opt for the gut-level improvements” “That >means hardware that can deliver more than a new graphics card and an >additional gig of RAM” > >I think Machrone is more on the mark on this subject. Don't bother >upgrading an old machine. It's time for a brand new one, even a machine >that might not exist yet. It feels like Vista is targeted for a machine >that isn't on the mass market. Who wants to run Vista on a machine that >was designed for high-end gamers? > >It feels like we're in a “tweener” stage here. We're moving away from XP >and the $1K hardware, and moving into an area where we're not going to >be happy with hardware and OS performance for a year or so to come. > >-Kevin > >Kevin Cully >CULLY Technologies, LLC > >Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! >http://foxforward.net > > >john harvey wrote: > > >>Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What >>version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the >>empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN >>Universal subscription. >> >>John Harvey >> >> >> >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with Vista?
On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Ted Roche wrote: >> It feels like Vista is targeted for a machine >> that isn't on the mass market. > > That's been typical of Microsoft. Wasn't that the always the reason why Moore's Law didn't have the sort of impact one would have thought? The saying was "Andy (Grove, CEO of Intel) giveth, and Bill (who else?) taketh away". -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Oooo, isn't Vista shiny? (paid to blog positively?)
On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > "Do you really think Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal goes to > some secret underground Apple Store to buy his hot new iPod to review > a month before it's even announced? Do you think hardware review sites > sneak into processor fabs late at night to gain access to hardware > samples that won't be on retail shelves for months? Do you really > think they're sending all of that stuff back? Some are, some aren't, > and to be honest, I have no idea if Mossberg keeps the top-secret > stuff he's sent or not..." Uh, the review wasn't for the laptop; it was for the Vista OS. A better analogy would be if Apple sent a killer home theatre system to the reviewer for free with no strings attached, on the hope that he might evaluate the video iPod. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with Vista?
Some notable quotes: #-- A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a strings of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little nor too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity. A program should follow the 'Law of Least Astonishment'. What is this law? It is simply that the program should always respond to the user in the way that astonishes him least. A program, no matter how complex, should act as a single unit. The program should be directed by the logic within rather than by outward appearances. If the program fails in these requirements, it will be in a state of disorder and confusion. The only way to correct this is to rewrite the program. -- Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming" #- A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. -- B. Franklin #--- Brief History Of Linux (#18) The rise and rise of the Microsoft Empire The DOS and Windows releases kept coming, and much to everyone's surprise, Microsoft became more and more successful. This brought much frustration to computer experts who kept predicting the demise of Microsoft and the rise of Macintosh, Unix, and OS/2. Nobody ever got fired for choosing Microsoft, which was the prime reason that DOS and Windows prevailed. Oh, and DOS had better games as well, which we all know is the most important feature an OS can have. In 1986 Microsoft's continued success prompted the company to undergo a wildly successful IPO. Afterwards, Microsoft and Chairman Bill had accumulated enough money to acquire small countries without missing a step, but all that money couldn't buy quality software. Gates could, however, buy enough marketing and hype to keep MS-DOS (Maybe Some Day an Operating System) and Windows (Will Install Needless Data On While System) as the dominant platforms, so quality didn't matter. This fact was demonstrated in Microsoft's short-lived slogan from 1988, "At Microsoft, quality is job 1.1". #--- Would it be acceptable to debian policy if we inserted a crontab by default into potato that emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] every morning with an email that read, "Don't worry, linux is a fad..." #--- Regards, LelandJ Kevin Cully wrote: >I haven't been running Vista but I was just looking at the latest PC >Magazine. I'm reading the “Vista: The Essential Guide” (January 2007) >and it's full of confusing contradictory information. BTW, this is a >“double issue” but somehow, it still feels light compared to what it was >historically. > >We start with the “First Word” by Jim Louderback. He starts his article >off with the statement “Our long,national nightmare is over!” I'm sure >he had a grin on when he wrote that. > >Louderback was interviewing Jim Allchin about Vista. Allchin stated >“It's preordained that we are moving to 64 bits. I cannot predict how >long it will take, but we will get there.” Louderback reports that >Allchin believes “that with Vista, the time is now.” Okay. I'm confused. >Are we now at 64 bits or not with Vista? Are all of the driver >manufacturers delivering 64 bit versions? We'll have to see what kind of >fallout this is going to have in the public sector. > >Louderback goes on speaking with Allchin about IPv6. Louderback states >“Why go IPv6? Better quality of service, better connectivity, and the >death of NAT.” Is the death of NAT a good thing? I wouldn't want all of >my machines to have a public IP address and be addressable from the >outside world. This puts too great a of a burden on my firewall. NAT is >a great tool (one of many) in protecting my machines from attack. Is >there something that is going to take it's place? > >Looking deeper into the magazine we have to differing opinions from >Michael J. Miller and Bill Machrone. Miller states “Though long overdue, >Vista offers some impressive features. The graphics finally takes >advantage of the hardware that most PCs have had for quite some time.” >The very next page (after the Matrox advertisement) Machrone states >“Don't upgrade to Vista – Buy a new computer instead. To get all the >performance that Vista has to offer, chances are somewhere between good >and excellent that the system now on your desk isn't going to deliver.” >He goes on later to state “... opt for the gut-level improvements” “That >means hardware that can deliver more than a new graphics card and an >additional gig of RAM” > >I think Machrone is more on the mark on this subject. Don't bother >upgrading an old machine. It's time for a brand new one, even a machine >that might not exist yet. It feels like Vista is targeted for a machine >that
Re: [NF] Oooo, isn't Vista shiny? (paid to blog positively?)
On 12/28/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is MSFT paying bloggers to say nice things? > "Do you really think Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal goes to some secret underground Apple Store to buy his hot new iPod to review a month before it's even announced? Do you think hardware review sites sneak into processor fabs late at night to gain access to hardware samples that won't be on retail shelves for months? Do you really think they're sending all of that stuff back? Some are, some aren't, and to be honest, I have no idea if Mossberg keeps the top-secret stuff he's sent or not..." http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061228-8514.html -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with Vista?
On 12/30/06, Kevin Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Louderback was interviewing Jim Allchin about Vista. Allchin stated > "It's preordained that we are moving to 64 bits. I cannot predict how > long it will take, but we will get there." Louderback reports that > Allchin believes "that with Vista, the time is now." Okay. I'm confused. > Are we now at 64 bits or not with Vista? Yes. > Are all of the driver manufacturers delivering 64 bit versions? Be serious. > Louderback goes on speaking with Allchin about IPv6. Louderback states > "Why go IPv6? Better quality of service, better connectivity, and the > death of NAT." Is the death of NAT a good thing? I wouldn't want all of > my machines to have a public IP address and be addressable from the > outside world. This puts too great a of a burden on my firewall. NAT is > a great tool (one of many) in protecting my machines from attack. Is > there something that is going to take it's place? The death of NAT is a good thing for anyone who's had to jump a couple of NATs for remote control, or wrestled with VPN configurations. It will likely require new hardware, though. Allchin is in the commercial world, the enterprise space where hardware turnover is the norm, and where high-end routers have been IPv6 for years. I doubt a lot of consumer-grade equipment is similarly capable, though I don't know for sure. IPv6 will be great when the transition is complete. > Looking deeper into the magazine we have to differing opinions from > Michael J. Miller and Bill Machrone. Miller states "Though long overdue, > Vista offers some impressive features. The graphics finally takes > advantage of the hardware that most PCs have had for quite some time." Like OS X and Linux XGL have been doing for a while? > The very next page (after the Matrox advertisement) Machrone states > "Don't upgrade to Vista – Buy a new computer instead. To get all the > performance that Vista has to offer, chances are somewhere between good > and excellent that the system now on your desk isn't going to deliver." Isn't it likely that both are true? Windows has not taken advantage of 3-D and that's been available for a long time. Lots of things have come along since core elements were re-written for XP or 2000 or NT (depending on the age of the particular component). So an "optimal" Vista machine may need common components and new ones - and lots and lots of RAM and CPU! > It feels like Vista is targeted for a machine > that isn't on the mass market. That's been typical of Microsoft. > Who wants to run Vista on a machine that > was designed for high-end gamers? Today's high-end gamer machine is next month's lamer. > It feels like we're in a "tweener" stage here. We're moving away from XP > and the $1K hardware, and moving into an area where we're not going to > be happy with hardware and OS performance for a year or so to come. I'm not sure that's really all that different. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
Rick Strahl says he's getting better performance on his pcs using Vista than he did with XP. John ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with Vista?
I haven't been running Vista but I was just looking at the latest PC Magazine. I'm reading the “Vista: The Essential Guide” (January 2007) and it's full of confusing contradictory information. BTW, this is a “double issue” but somehow, it still feels light compared to what it was historically. We start with the “First Word” by Jim Louderback. He starts his article off with the statement “Our long,national nightmare is over!” I'm sure he had a grin on when he wrote that. Louderback was interviewing Jim Allchin about Vista. Allchin stated “It's preordained that we are moving to 64 bits. I cannot predict how long it will take, but we will get there.” Louderback reports that Allchin believes “that with Vista, the time is now.” Okay. I'm confused. Are we now at 64 bits or not with Vista? Are all of the driver manufacturers delivering 64 bit versions? We'll have to see what kind of fallout this is going to have in the public sector. Louderback goes on speaking with Allchin about IPv6. Louderback states “Why go IPv6? Better quality of service, better connectivity, and the death of NAT.” Is the death of NAT a good thing? I wouldn't want all of my machines to have a public IP address and be addressable from the outside world. This puts too great a of a burden on my firewall. NAT is a great tool (one of many) in protecting my machines from attack. Is there something that is going to take it's place? Looking deeper into the magazine we have to differing opinions from Michael J. Miller and Bill Machrone. Miller states “Though long overdue, Vista offers some impressive features. The graphics finally takes advantage of the hardware that most PCs have had for quite some time.” The very next page (after the Matrox advertisement) Machrone states “Don't upgrade to Vista – Buy a new computer instead. To get all the performance that Vista has to offer, chances are somewhere between good and excellent that the system now on your desk isn't going to deliver.” He goes on later to state “... opt for the gut-level improvements” “That means hardware that can deliver more than a new graphics card and an additional gig of RAM” I think Machrone is more on the mark on this subject. Don't bother upgrading an old machine. It's time for a brand new one, even a machine that might not exist yet. It feels like Vista is targeted for a machine that isn't on the mass market. Who wants to run Vista on a machine that was designed for high-end gamers? It feels like we're in a “tweener” stage here. We're moving away from XP and the $1K hardware, and moving into an area where we're not going to be happy with hardware and OS performance for a year or so to come. -Kevin Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net john harvey wrote: > Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What > version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the > empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN > Universal subscription. > > John Harvey > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
John, I've been using it since November. I like it, but there are a few things Not many drivers available so if you use scanners, cameras, etc. you're out of luck... I set up an xppro box also for all my software that I can't run on vista yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:35 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN Universal subscription. John Harvey [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN Universal subscription. John Harvey ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with free version of VMware?
One other thing I forgot to mention. Once I had Windows XP Pro running, I received a message that I had to contact Microsoft to verify my registration number. When I called Microsoft, I told them I had installed my Window XP Pro in a VMware Virtual Machine hosted in FC4. The Microsoft representative was nice and gave my a new license number to register my Window XP Pro OS. Microsoft tracks the number of times a CD has been installed, and it is my understanding that every third install requires contact with Microsoft. Regards, LelandJ Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: >Malcolm Greene wrote: > > >>Anyone have any experience with the free version of VMware Server? >> >>Background: >>http://www.vmware.com/products/server_comp.html >>http://www.vmware.com/products/server/overview.html >>http://www.vmware.com/products/server/faqs.html >> >>I'm curious how you're using this, any gotchas or warnings, and why you >>decided to or not to purchase the Workstation Edition of VMware. >> >> > >I spent part of a day working with the free workstation because from the >docs, it seemed you were required to have two machines to run vmware >server. But then reading and networking have never been my forte. > >Ran the ws version on a 1 GB Thinkpad and it was a tad sluggish. > >I'd be interested in hearing other folks are doing. It wasn't >immediately apparent how to get the vmware client (XP running inside >vmware) to talk to the hardware, such as a printer or a USB Thumbdrive. >But like I said > >Whil > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with free version of VMware?
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: >Malcolm Greene wrote: > > >>Anyone have any experience with the free version of VMware Server? >> >>Background: >>http://www.vmware.com/products/server_comp.html >>http://www.vmware.com/products/server/overview.html >>http://www.vmware.com/products/server/faqs.html >> >>I'm curious how you're using this, any gotchas or warnings, and why you >>decided to or not to purchase the Workstation Edition of VMware. >> >> > >I spent part of a day working with the free workstation because from the >docs, it seemed you were required to have two machines to run vmware >server. But then reading and networking have never been my forte. > >Ran the ws version on a 1 GB Thinkpad and it was a tad sluggish. > >I'd be interested in hearing other folks are doing. It wasn't >immediately apparent how to get the vmware client (XP running inside >vmware) to talk to the hardware, such as a printer or a USB Thumbdrive. >But like I said > > It's really very easy. I'm running VMware hosted in FC4. Once the vmware rpm is installed, I just type vmware in a command window to run it. The first time I typed vmware in the command window, VMware told me to run vmware-config.pl. I ran vmware-config.pl, accepting all the defaults, and once it finished, I received a success and enjoy message. Next time I typed vmware in the command window it came up. I click on "Install a New Virtual Machine", and filled out a simple dialog about how big of a folder I wanted for my Virtual Machine. I slected a 12 gig folder for Windows XP Pro. After creating the folder, I had to reboot the computer, and when it came up, I was instructed to insert my windows XP Pro CD, and from there it was just like installing windows XP Pro on a fresh computer, including the Internet searches for most current drivers and entering my registration number. I didn't need to do anything from VMware to insure window XP Pro found all the hardware on the computer. Next time I started VMware it came up with an option to select windows XP Pro to start it in a Virtual Machine. Once Window XP Pro was running, I clicked on an option to install VMware tools ,which is used with certain devices, like the mouse. After installing the VMware tools form the VMware menu option, the mouse was a lot faster, and I have been very happy with the system. The virtual machine is easy to back up. All I have to do is back up the Window XP Pro VM folder, and its done. The VM folders can be moved around, and I can browse to it from VMware to open it up, after the VM has been moved, or to open a backup VM folder. I can cut and paste between FC4 and the VMware Virtual Machine. Regards, LelandJ >Whil > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: OT: Wireless boosters
On 12/30/06, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do they work? Yes, they do. > Recommendations? Cautions? A regular 802.11 b/g WAP can cover a 300 foot radius under ideal conditions. The most significant attentuation occurs in the first couple of feet. Try positioning the antenna where there's nothing but air for 3' above and around, away from walls, ceilings and especially electrical equipment. (For example, if I place a running USB external drive on the same tabletop as the WAP, I kill all the connections). Different WAPs differ in signal strength and capabilities. Several have updates or third-party firware that improve their capabilities. Ensure you're running the latest firmware and/or research the 3rd-party firmware. With the WRT54g, power output is adjustable with 3rd-party firmware. > My WAP is on the first floor of a 3 story frame house + basement. We > need good connectivity throughout. Standard signal security is fine with us. What are you getting now? What kind of equipment do you have? Linksys sells reasonably priced boosters and omnidirectional antennae that could both help, but it's worth a bit of experimentation with what you have. Also if you have a spare router/wap around, some can be configured to share and boost signals. Finally, though it may not be obvious, the ideal (imo) is wired on all levels: we have a basement of servers and machines in repair, with a WRT54g router as firewall for the office DSL, a first floor with incoming cable, one WRT54g as router/firewall/WAP and a second at the far end of the house as a bridge for the MythTV front end, and a second floor with the ethernet snaked up next to the hot air duct for occasionally projects like beaming wireless to the fairgrounds next door. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
Hal Kaplan wrote: > taking my 12-year-old VHS copy of "The Movie No One Ever Heard Of" and > transferring it to a DVD for (my) posterity? > > I know this can go way OT but can one of you recommend a good web site > to explain all this stuff? TIA ... I really appreciate it. > Lots of info here: http://www.videohelp.com/guides HTH Jaime Vasquez ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Wireless boosters
If you have a linksys router (or any router that uses the same screw on interface), you can just add a higher gain antennae. Mine is a 12dbi, as I recall. I got it off Ebay for 15.00. You can also get firmware from sveasoft that will allow you to boost signal. I have a 6,000 sq ft multilevel home and the wireless works everywhere. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lew Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:34 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: OT: Wireless boosters Do they work? Recommendations? Cautions? My WAP is on the first floor of a 3 story frame house + basement. We need good connectivity throughout. Standard signal security is fine with us. Thanks. -Lew [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
OT: Wireless boosters
Do they work? Recommendations? Cautions? My WAP is on the first floor of a 3 story frame house + basement. We need good connectivity throughout. Standard signal security is fine with us. Thanks. -Lew ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Experience with free version of VMware?
On 12/29/06, Malcolm Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm curious how you're using this, any gotchas or warnings, On a previous laptop, ThinkPad A31p, Pentium-M-2GHz, 2Gb RAM, running Ubuntu, I installed and configured the VMServer and WinXPPro to evaluate its usefulness for the occasional need for Windows: IE6 web site testing, QuickBooksPro, xCase. It worked quite well. I put it aside when the laptop "Lucky" was retired due to a bad LCD. (Lucky now has a happy second life as a MythTV front end in the entertainment center.) I plan to set it up again on my current workstation when time allows. Gotchas and warnings? Few. Read the Internet. The Answers Are Out There. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/7605 > and why you > decided to or not to purchase the Workstation Edition of VMware. No need, as far as I can tell. Workstation may have some nice features for enterprises, but few I need. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Most troops hate America
On 12/30/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah ed, your logic does not impress me.. > Your programming does though... ROFL...a paradox ? A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] This looks promising
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