Re: Remote Desktop and Foxpro for Windows 2.6

2007-04-22 Thread Alan Bourke
Thanks Mike! Nice to see there are some other people out there still
dealing with FPW apps!
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RE: [NF]was Dell once again offers Windows XP - Vista upgrade

2007-04-22 Thread Alan Bourke

 I almost forgot to add, Vista is
 noticeably slower than XP on the HP laptop.  God only knows what kind of
 progress that is supposed to be.

OK, that's one laptop which Vista is slower on. On the one I'm using to
type this, it's at least as fast and noticeably faster at dealing with
several large apps being open at the same time. 

I have to say that at the minute I don't see any major reason to go for
Vista over XP SP2. Down the line a ways, after a Vista SP1 release, that
situation will probably reverse.

Having said that, I didn't pay for Vista, I got it via our corporate
MSDN sub. I have to say I was looking at the pricing for MS Office Small
Business Edition in PC World yesterday and it is very expensive.
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Re: Remote Desktop and Foxpro for Windows 2.6

2007-04-22 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote:
 Just a heads up.

 IF you have your colors set to 256 in the Remote
 Desktop Client Options, the entry fields don't get
 refreshed fast enough.  So you'll be typing, but won't
 see what you've typed until you go to the next field.

 Updating the number of colors to the highest setting
 (24-bit color on my machine) fixes the problem
   

That's surprising...I would have thought the less colors, the better?  
Then again, does using the BITMAP option in the config file help towards 
this problem?

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Re: Remote Desktop and Foxpro for Windows 2.6

2007-04-22 Thread Paul Hill
On 4/22/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Just a heads up.
 
  IF you have your colors set to 256 in the Remote
  Desktop Client Options, the entry fields don't get
  refreshed fast enough.  So you'll be typing, but won't
  see what you've typed until you go to the next field.
 
  Updating the number of colors to the highest setting
  (24-bit color on my machine) fixes the problem
 

 That's surprising...I would have thought the less colors, the better?
 Then again, does using the BITMAP option in the config file help towards
 this problem?

Just a thought, if the screen depth of the remote desktop is the same
as the local one rendering is faster.  Probably does a straight blit,
rather than pixel-by-pixel colour conversion.

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Re: Remote Desktop and Foxpro for Windows 2.6

2007-04-22 Thread Michael Madigan
You're right, 16 color settings used to fix other
problems.

I haven't tried the bitmap setting, that may help too.




--- MB Software Solutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Just a heads up.
 
  IF you have your colors set to 256 in the Remote
  Desktop Client Options, the entry fields don't get
  refreshed fast enough.  So you'll be typing, but
 won't
  see what you've typed until you go to the next
 field.
 
  Updating the number of colors to the highest
 setting
  (24-bit color on my machine) fixes the problem

 
 That's surprising...I would have thought the less
 colors, the better?  
 Then again, does using the BITMAP option in the
 config file help towards 
 this problem?
 
 -- 
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 MB Software Solutions, LLC
 http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
 http://fabmate.com
 Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software
 solutions!
 
 
 
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Re: My appalling ignorance - creating visual classes

2007-04-22 Thread Vince Teachout
Jaime Vasquez wrote:
 Vince Teachout wrote:
   
 Use PrgToVcx, a utility by Tom Rettig, is in the download section:
 ftp://leafe.com/PrgToVcx.zip

   
Boy, I'm really glad to know that it WASN'T something simple and obvious 
after all!  Thanks.

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Re: [NF] Good overviews of Open Source?

2007-04-22 Thread Vince Teachout
Ted Roche wrote:
 On 4/20/07, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 It's unclear from your post what your client is supposed to be
 considering. 
I wasn't aware just how unclear it was, until you started asking 
questions.  I'm looking for basic What is Open Source and Why is Open 
Source a GOOD thing? type articles, preferably with statistics.   He 
has a 2 main products that are written in VFP.  When I made the offhand 
remark that there is a push going on to try and get VFP source to become 
open source, his reaction was Oh No!  That's bad, right? 

He's recently understood that he might be losing out on a business 
opportunity by not having a browser app, but when I mentioned PHP he 
said No, a lot of our clients shops are MS only, so it has to be ASP or 
Dot Net.  They won't allow us to run PHP on their machines anyway  And 
later he called back to say that he had mentioned PHP to someone, and 
they told him it was ok for small hobby sites, but couldn't scale to 
large sites and wasn't secure.

Finally, he thinks that open source means we have to give away our 
intellectual property (source code). 

I'm trying to steer him towards XAMP in the future ( in addition to our 
current VFP software), because the Linux market for our product appears 
to be completely untapped, and I think the write-once deploy-many cross 
platform nature of Python would be a huge money maker.

But I have a lot of 'splaining to do, first.  I will be Googling my own 
homework, but I thought maybe others may have had this similar 
situation, and had standard links they might point their clients too.  I 
did look at Cathedrial and Bazaar, btw, but way more techie than I'm 
looking for.  Thanks!

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Re: [NF] Good overviews of Open Source?

2007-04-22 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Heya Vince -

you said, He's recently understood that he might be losing out on a
business opportunity by not having a browser app,

hm... Curiouser and Curiouser -

Did you do any staging for him with IIS, Active FoxPro Pages, and VFP ?
You can also do wintel Apache, Active FoxPro Pages, and VFP.

You can also do staging with him for IIS and Fox#, see
www.foxaccelerated.com .  Ya - there's lots o 'stuff' out there on da site
, but once you start working with the framework and the smart client, it's
NICE to keep it all in VFP.

It's a nice pool to swim in.

Although I'm a fan o open source (love those postGreSql backends, dontcha
know), I am sticking mostly with VFP for workstation development (with a
punch through for Dabo this year).

Mondo Regards [Bill]
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Re: Remote Desktop and Foxpro for Windows 2.6

2007-04-22 Thread Michael Madigan
I'll try that too.


--- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 4/22/07, MB Software Solutions
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Michael Madigan wrote:
   Just a heads up.
  
   IF you have your colors set to 256 in the Remote
   Desktop Client Options, the entry fields don't
 get
   refreshed fast enough.  So you'll be typing, but
 won't
   see what you've typed until you go to the next
 field.
  
   Updating the number of colors to the highest
 setting
   (24-bit color on my machine) fixes the problem
  
 
  That's surprising...I would have thought the less
 colors, the better?
  Then again, does using the BITMAP option in the
 config file help towards
  this problem?
 
 Just a thought, if the screen depth of the remote
 desktop is the same
 as the local one rendering is faster.  Probably does
 a straight blit,
 rather than pixel-by-pixel colour conversion.
 
 -- 
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Re: Free software, Open source

2007-04-22 Thread Michael Madigan
The protester is having his kidneys harvested as we
speak. LOL


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Open source protester crashes speech by Bill Gates 
 
 News at

http://english.sina.com/technology/1/2007/0420/110104.html
 
 Photo at

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/p/2007-04-20/110312826613.shtml
 
 Video at

http://tech.sina.com.cn/it/bn/2007-04-20/1405564.shtml
 
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[NF] Free software, Open source

2007-04-22 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote:
 The protester is having his kidneys harvested as we
 speak. LOL


 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Open source protester crashes speech by Bill Gates 

 News at

 
 http://english.sina.com/technology/1/2007/0420/110104.html
   
 Photo at

 
 http://news.sina.com.cn/c/p/2007-04-20/110312826613.shtml
   
 Video at

 
 http://tech.sina.com.cn/it/bn/2007-04-20/1405564.shtml
   
 - Tuberose
 

Hi Tuberose,

When reading the news article, I was reminded of another recent article 
that said only approx. 244 genuine licenses of Vista had been sold.  
LOL!!!  They (the Chinese) might love the guy (Bill Gates), but they're 
certainly not paying for his software

(Switched to NF, as its not Fox but tech related!)

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Re: [OT] Buying the War, on PBS next wed

2007-04-22 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Saturday 21 April 2007 3:03 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Saturday 21 April 2007 2:11 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 snip

 BTW Petey, if you ever come to my country make sure I don't find out.
 You might... 'ask for it'.
 Hi Ricardo!

 You want to kill me?
 Hi Petey!

 No, heavens! I would never say that. I just intend to wage war on
 terrorism (of whatever sign) inside my country. Just don't make sudden
 moves.
 
 Hi Ricardo!
 
 Is terrorism really any problem in Argentina? Particularly terrorism from 
 aged 
 Americans whose only sudden moves are in the direction of the toilet?

No! We have no issues with TRUE Americans, like Mexicans, Canadians,
Brazilians, etc.
But we will wage war on terrorist USA's old people. We have intelligence
information and we will be including them in OUR 'axis of evil'. Unless
you cease and desist we'll wage preventive war on you.

We have strong reasons to believe you are manufacturing and using canes
for non-civilian uses. And unless you allow the 'World Cane Control
Organization' (WCCO) to inspect your country looking for illegal cane
facilities we will be forced to attack you. We admit we are the biggest
cane manufacturers in the world, and the only ones who have used two
canes to beat a couple of babies. But we are a responsible nation. We
will not let any upstarts to start fabricating these canes for
themselves. If you need them, then we'll sell you some canes for
peaceful uses, but you're not allowed to manufacture them yourselves,
only us, our allies and those nations who are strong enough that we
don't dare attack can make canes.

So beware, you have been notified!





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Re: [NF] Good overviews of Open Source?

2007-04-22 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Php scales and is cross platform.

http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/10/15/php_scalability.html

Java scales and essentially equivalent to Dot Net.  The big difference 
between java and Dot Net is Java is a little more mature, more widely 
used, and run on Linux, Mac, Solaris, and about everything else, and its 
free.  Also, perl and python scale and are cross platform.  You might 
also take a look a Ruby on Rail as an application foundation.  It uses 
AJAX which is good.  There are a number of other AJAX application 
foundations that are commercial as well.

Many large companies that develop all their software in house have taken 
advantage of the open source opportunity to add to their bottom line by 
reducing expenses while maintaining commercial grade quality.

Advantages of open source are:

It is free.

The source code is made available, so application can easily be modified 
by a user.  Also, security is increased when the source code is made 
available to everyone,  so bug are spotted more quickly, and fixed more 
rapidly.

Many commercial applications are developed using free open source 
software like perl, php, python, and Ruby on Rails, Also, many 
commercial applications take advantage of free open source databases 
like SQLite and PostgreSQL,.  Many web based commercial application run 
on the Apache web server which works not only in Windows, but in Linux, 
Mac and Unix computers.  Such Commercial applications will also run in 
Windows IIS.

One big advantage of open source is choice.  With open source  you do 
not get locked into a single platform and vendor, and the Windows churn 
which keeps everyone reaching for their wallets to buy new software and 
computers is somewhat alleviated.  These advantage certainly help me 
sleep better at night.

Regards,

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Vince Teachout wrote:
 Ted Roche wrote:
   
 On 4/20/07, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 It's unclear from your post what your client is supposed to be
 considering. 
 
 I wasn't aware just how unclear it was, until you started asking 
 questions.  I'm looking for basic What is Open Source and Why is Open 
 Source a GOOD thing? type articles, preferably with statistics.   He 
 has a 2 main products that are written in VFP.  When I made the offhand 
 remark that there is a push going on to try and get VFP source to become 
 open source, his reaction was Oh No!  That's bad, right? 

 He's recently understood that he might be losing out on a business 
 opportunity by not having a browser app, but when I mentioned PHP he 
 said No, a lot of our clients shops are MS only, so it has to be ASP or 
 Dot Net.  They won't allow us to run PHP on their machines anyway  And 
 later he called back to say that he had mentioned PHP to someone, and 
 they told him it was ok for small hobby sites, but couldn't scale to 
 large sites and wasn't secure.

 Finally, he thinks that open source means we have to give away our 
 intellectual property (source code). 

 I'm trying to steer him towards XAMP in the future ( in addition to our 
 current VFP software), because the Linux market for our product appears 
 to be completely untapped, and I think the write-once deploy-many cross 
 platform nature of Python would be a huge money maker.

 But I have a lot of 'splaining to do, first.  I will be Googling my own 
 homework, but I thought maybe others may have had this similar 
 situation, and had standard links they might point their clients too.  I 
 did look at Cathedrial and Bazaar, btw, but way more techie than I'm 
 looking for.  Thanks!

   



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tracing via remote desktop connection

2007-04-22 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I've got a new program that I need to learn inside out asap.

Its on a network drive and I have to access it via remote desktop
connection.

We have a test area set up on drive C and the EXE that I build runs fine.
However, I want to trace my way through the program so I will know what
calls what.

I've tried copying the .SC* down to my test area and I still end up missing
a bunch of files.
Is there something I'm missing, or do I simply need to track down all the
missing files and put them in my test directory in order to step through the
program ?

At this point, I do NOT know where all the files are located at.

Thanks,

Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4799 Fax
(830) 864-4726 Home
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RE: [NF] Free software, Open source

2007-04-22 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions  wrote:
 Michael Madigan wrote:

 
 Hi Tuberose,
 
 When reading the news article, I was reminded of another recent
 article 
 that said only approx. 244 genuine licenses of Vista had been sold.
 LOL!!!  They (the Chinese) might love the guy (Bill Gates), but
 they're 
 certainly not paying for his software
 
 (Switched to NF, as its not Fox but tech related!)

I think that China is given the country key much like India has for M$
software.

Businesses pay for it but the local public doesn’t have to.  OS or dev tools
no difference.  Easiest way to grow a set of developers.  

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

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Re: [NF] Good overviews of Open Source?

2007-04-22 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/22/07, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wasn't aware just how unclear it was, until you started asking
 questions.  I'm looking for basic What is Open Source and Why is Open
 Source a GOOD thing? type articles, preferably with statistics.

On the economics of running your applications on Open Source?

Perens has a high-level view:

http://perens.com/Articles/Economic.html

The Harvard Business School has a 55-page PDF written way back in 2000:
http://www.people.hbs.edu/jlerner/simple.pdf

but those are both too high-minded for what you're looking for, I think.

 He's recently understood that he might be losing out on a business
 opportunity by not having a browser app, but when I mentioned PHP he
 said No, a lot of our clients shops are MS only, so it has to be ASP or
 Dot Net.  They won't allow us to run PHP on their machines anyway  And
 later he called back to say that he had mentioned PHP to someone, and
 they told him it was ok for small hobby sites, but couldn't scale to
 large sites and wasn't secure.

Nonsense. Some of the biggest sites in the world run on PHP.

 Finally, he thinks that open source means we have to give away our
 intellectual property (source code).

Another common misconception.

 I'm trying to steer him towards XAMP in the future ( in addition to our
 current VFP software), because the Linux market for our product appears
 to be completely untapped, and I think the write-once deploy-many cross
 platform nature of Python would be a huge money maker.

I think you have your work cut out for you. I am not convinced of
WAMP, as I have very limited experience with Apache on Windows. If you
have to buy the Windows server license anyway, what's the difference
between IIS and Apache, well, besides security? I am less comfortable
running *anything* on Windows, since exploits are so much more common
on the platform. A workstation can be replaced if it goes hinky, but
what about the server? I'd prefer to have a headless Linux box running
the show than a Windows server someone decides to use as a spare
internet browsing machine. I just don't see the compelling story for
Windows on servers.

 But I have a lot of 'splaining to do, first.  I will be Googling my own
 homework, but I thought maybe others may have had this similar
 situation, and had standard links they might point their clients too.  I
 did look at Cathedrial and Bazaar, btw, but way more techie than I'm
 looking for.  Thanks!

Googling Business Case for Open Source yields some good hits, too:

http://www.opensource.org/advocacy/case_for_business.php

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche  Associates, LLC
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[OT] Why not just cut 'em into smaller pieces?

2007-04-22 Thread Ed Leafe
Obesity Crisis Hits Crematoriums

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070422100247.htm


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Re: [OT] Why not just cut 'em into smaller pieces?

2007-04-22 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Show a little respect and honor for the dear departed Ed.  Besides, I'm 
sure there must be code standards that must be observed to retain a license.

Regards,

LelandJ


Ed Leafe wrote:
 Obesity Crisis Hits Crematoriums

 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070422100247.htm


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Re: [OT] Buying the War, on PBS next wed

2007-04-22 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 22 April 2007 3:44 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
  snip
  BTW Petey, if you ever come to my country make sure I don't find out.
  You might... 'ask for it'.
  You want to kill me?
  No, heavens! I would never say that. I just intend to wage war on
  terrorism (of whatever sign) inside my country. Just don't make sudden
  moves.
  Is terrorism really any problem in Argentina? Particularly terrorism from
  aged Americans whose only sudden moves are in the direction of the
  toilet?

 No! We have no issues with TRUE Americans, like Mexicans, Canadians,
 Brazilians, etc.
 But we will wage war on terrorist USA's old people. We have intelligence
 information and we will be including them in OUR 'axis of evil'. Unless
 you cease and desist we'll wage preventive war on you.

 We have strong reasons to believe you are manufacturing and using canes
 for non-civilian uses. And unless you allow the 'World Cane Control
 Organization' (WCCO) to inspect your country looking for illegal cane
 facilities we will be forced to attack you. We admit we are the biggest
 cane manufacturers in the world, and the only ones who have used two
 canes to beat a couple of babies. But we are a responsible nation. We
 will not let any upstarts to start fabricating these canes for
 themselves. If you need them, then we'll sell you some canes for
 peaceful uses, but you're not allowed to manufacture them yourselves,
 only us, our allies and those nations who are strong enough that we
 don't dare attack can make canes.

 So beware, you have been notified!

Hi Ricardo!

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. Here I thought it was Singapore who was 
caning people.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
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Re: [OT] Why not just cut 'em into smaller pieces?

2007-04-22 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 23 April 2007 12:23 am, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
 Show a little respect and honor for the dear departed Ed.  Besides, I'm
 sure there must be code standards that must be observed to retain a
 license.

Hi Leland!

The cremation ovens are due for replacement. I say we should make them really 
big, then if a lot of people die at once we will be ready. Run them through, 
however fat they are, in batches of say, 600 at a time.
-- 
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