Re: VFP 9 Amazing jumping check boxes...

2007-04-25 Thread MB Software Solutions
Richard Kaye wrote:
> Autosize on. Didn't play with that but thought about it.
>
> MB Software Solutions wrote:
>
>   
>> AutoSize turned on or off?
>>
>> 

AutoSize = .T. back in VFP6 burnt me like this when using checkboxes 
embedded deep in a pageframe-page-pageframe-page scenario.

-- 
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Robert Calco wrote:
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> 
>> Don't have a standing on this issue of French internal politics,  
>> France
>> is not dangerous to the rest of the world. But.
> 
> I disagree. Consider the Muslim youth riots of not-so-long-ago.  
> France is a microcosm of what European left-leaning policies have  
> wrought on what used to be called European culture, and within a few  
> short decades, if trends continue, the radical Muslims who preach  
> death to the West from the underbelly of European society will have  
> overtaken several nuclear nations by attrition.
> 
> That's a reason to at least care about European politics.
> 

Please, read what I wrote. I say 'FRANCE' is not dangerous to the rest
of the world. Muslim youth riots are INTERNAL problems of the country
and not a danger to the rest of the world.


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Re: [NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread Chet Gardiner
Don't forget to setup your printer as a DHCP client or,

if you wish, hard code an I/P way above your other computers (ie: router 
DHCP root = 198.168.1.0 -- Set printer to 198.168.1.199 and make sure 
the router range is 100 through 199 -- you get the idea..)

The important thing with this network stuff is to make sure they're all 
on the same I/P root and SubMask.  Once that's done, it's duck soup for 
the rest (unless the router craps out).

Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> Thanks, I'll try and figure it out tomorrow.
> Went the network way because I bought a hp color laserjet with full duplex
> printing for my chamber of commerce and real estate stuff and this one has a
> network connection so that I can print from either computer.
>
> Just need to figure it all out 
>
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> (830) 864-4726 Home
> http://www.bierschwale.com
> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of john harvey
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:12 PM
> To: 'ProFox Email List'
> Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP
>
> Usually, you need to set the dsl modem to be a gateway to the wireless
> router/switch and all devices can get an ipaddress from the router.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Virgil Bierschwale
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:03 PM
> To: 'ProFox Email List'
> Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP
>
> This is weird, but I don't have time to figure it out just now.
> If you ever have this scenario, hook up vista by itself to the switch and
> let it resolve the IP address.
>
> That will disable the XP box, but you can then hook it up to the router
> instead of the switch and it will now find both of them.
>
> I just bought a router and switch the other day and I guess I'm going to
> have to RTFM.
>
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> (830) 864-4726 Home
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> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:00 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP
>
> Hardcode it then and see if it works.
>
>
> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> That's what it says, but I can't find it as all the
>> "auto assign" boxes are
>> checked.
>> I'm taking mcafee off now just incase that's part of
>> it.
>>
>> Virgil Bierschwale
>> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
>> (830) 329-6774 Cell
>> (830) 864-4799 Fax
>> (830) 864-4726 Home
>> http://www.bierschwale.com
>> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
>> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Michael Madigan
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:52 PM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Vista and XP
>>
>> Are you using DHCP or hard-coding your IP?  Is it
>> possible that both your laptop and desktop have the
>> same hard-coded IP?
>>
>>
>> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and
>>>   
>> a
>> 
>>> 20" flatscreen because
>>> they had it on sale and I needed a development
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl
>>> modem, a router and a
>>> switch and it all works fine.
>>> When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on
>>> it, it gives me a IP
>>> address problem.
>>>
>>> If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl
>>>   
>> modem,
>> 
>>> it works fine.
>>>
>>> What gives with that ??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Virgil Bierschwale
>>> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
>>> (830) 329-6774 Cell
>>> (830) 864-4799 Fax
>>> (830) 864-4726 Home
>>> http://www.bierschwale.com
>>> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
>>> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread Chet Gardiner
ipconfig /allis your friend.

Run this command in a DOS box on both machines. 

You will find out what device is serving out I/P addresses (if either of 
them is) and what the main root address is (198.168.1.1  or 198.168.2.1  
or 198.168.0.0 or whatever the root DHCP series is).

It will also tell you what I/P addresses your desktop and laptop think 
they are.  It's possible that the one that isn't working has an I/P on a 
different root (198.168.x.), an I/P out of range for the router or the 
SUBMASK may be different.

I've had no trouble setting the router to be a DHCP server and then 
setting all other computers to get I/P address from the DHCP server. 

You should also turn OFF ALL WINDOZE AND OTHER FIREWALLS on each 
machine!  Your router, like mine, is probably keeping the world out fine 
so you don't need that crap.

You can (and SHOULD) test your router with www.grc.com Shield's Up in a 
browser on any machine that's connected to the internet through the 
router. 

Mine tests as Stealth on all ports -- yours should too.



john harvey wrote:
> Usually, you need to set the dsl modem to be a gateway to the wireless
> router/switch and all devices can get an ipaddress from the router.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Virgil Bierschwale
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:03 PM
> To: 'ProFox Email List'
> Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP
>
> This is weird, but I don't have time to figure it out just now.
> If you ever have this scenario, hook up vista by itself to the switch and
> let it resolve the IP address.
>
> That will disable the XP box, but you can then hook it up to the router
> instead of the switch and it will now find both of them.
>
> I just bought a router and switch the other day and I guess I'm going to
> have to RTFM.
>
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> (830) 864-4726 Home
> http://www.bierschwale.com
> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:00 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP
>
> Hardcode it then and see if it works.
>
>
> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> That's what it says, but I can't find it as all the
>> "auto assign" boxes are
>> checked.
>> I'm taking mcafee off now just incase that's part of
>> it.
>>
>> Virgil Bierschwale
>> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
>> (830) 329-6774 Cell
>> (830) 864-4799 Fax
>> (830) 864-4726 Home
>> http://www.bierschwale.com
>> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
>> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Michael Madigan
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:52 PM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Vista and XP
>>
>> Are you using DHCP or hard-coding your IP?  Is it
>> possible that both your laptop and desktop have the
>> same hard-coded IP?
>>
>>
>> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and
>>>   
>> a
>> 
>>> 20" flatscreen because
>>> they had it on sale and I needed a development
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl
>>> modem, a router and a
>>> switch and it all works fine.
>>> When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on
>>> it, it gives me a IP
>>> address problem.
>>>
>>> If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl
>>>   
>> modem,
>> 
>>> it works fine.
>>>
>>> What gives with that ??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Virgil Bierschwale
>>> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
>>> (830) 329-6774 Cell
>>> (830) 864-4799 Fax
>>> (830) 864-4726 Home
>>> http://www.bierschwale.com
>>> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
>>> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: [NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Thanks, I'll try and figure it out tomorrow.
Went the network way because I bought a hp color laserjet with full duplex
printing for my chamber of commerce and real estate stuff and this one has a
network connection so that I can print from either computer.

Just need to figure it all out 

Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4799 Fax
(830) 864-4726 Home
http://www.bierschwale.com
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of john harvey
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:12 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP

Usually, you need to set the dsl modem to be a gateway to the wireless
router/switch and all devices can get an ipaddress from the router.

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Virgil Bierschwale
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:03 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP

This is weird, but I don't have time to figure it out just now.
If you ever have this scenario, hook up vista by itself to the switch and
let it resolve the IP address.

That will disable the XP box, but you can then hook it up to the router
instead of the switch and it will now find both of them.

I just bought a router and switch the other day and I guess I'm going to
have to RTFM.

Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4799 Fax
(830) 864-4726 Home
http://www.bierschwale.com
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:00 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP

Hardcode it then and see if it works.


--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's what it says, but I can't find it as all the
> "auto assign" boxes are
> checked.
> I'm taking mcafee off now just incase that's part of
> it.
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> (830) 864-4726 Home
> http://www.bierschwale.com
> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:52 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [NF] Vista and XP
> 
> Are you using DHCP or hard-coding your IP?  Is it
> possible that both your laptop and desktop have the
> same hard-coded IP?
> 
> 
> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and
> a
> > 20" flatscreen because
> > they had it on sale and I needed a development
> > machine.
> > 
> > My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl
> > modem, a router and a
> > switch and it all works fine.
> > When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on
> > it, it gives me a IP
> > address problem.
> > 
> > If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl
> modem,
> > it works fine.
> > 
> > What gives with that ??
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Virgil Bierschwale
> > Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> > (830) 329-6774 Cell
> > (830) 864-4799 Fax
> > (830) 864-4726 Home
> > http://www.bierschwale.com
> > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> > http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-25 Thread Robert Calco
Thanks Bill!

I appreciate your kind words. :)

- Bob

On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:02 PM, William Sanders / EFG wrote:

> Heya Bob -
>
> Good observations and commentary.
>
> I had watched the French political news rebroadcast on C-Span re: the
> election, and of course NONE of what you mentioned was covered in the
> broadcast (was about 2 hours iirc).
>
> She's gonna have a hard time of it, I think so.
>
> Mondo Regards [Bill]
> --  
> William Sanders / efGroup {rmv the DOT BOB to reply}
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> Failing dotNet Project? -> http://www.dotnetconversions.com
>
>
>
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RE: [NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread john harvey
Usually, you need to set the dsl modem to be a gateway to the wireless
router/switch and all devices can get an ipaddress from the router.

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Virgil Bierschwale
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:03 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP

This is weird, but I don't have time to figure it out just now.
If you ever have this scenario, hook up vista by itself to the switch and
let it resolve the IP address.

That will disable the XP box, but you can then hook it up to the router
instead of the switch and it will now find both of them.

I just bought a router and switch the other day and I guess I'm going to
have to RTFM.

Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4799 Fax
(830) 864-4726 Home
http://www.bierschwale.com
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:00 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and XP

Hardcode it then and see if it works.


--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's what it says, but I can't find it as all the
> "auto assign" boxes are
> checked.
> I'm taking mcafee off now just incase that's part of
> it.
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> (830) 864-4726 Home
> http://www.bierschwale.com
> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:52 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [NF] Vista and XP
> 
> Are you using DHCP or hard-coding your IP?  Is it
> possible that both your laptop and desktop have the
> same hard-coded IP?
> 
> 
> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and
> a
> > 20" flatscreen because
> > they had it on sale and I needed a development
> > machine.
> > 
> > My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl
> > modem, a router and a
> > switch and it all works fine.
> > When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on
> > it, it gives me a IP
> > address problem.
> > 
> > If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl
> modem,
> > it works fine.
> > 
> > What gives with that ??
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Virgil Bierschwale
> > Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> > (830) 329-6774 Cell
> > (830) 864-4799 Fax
> > (830) 864-4726 Home
> > http://www.bierschwale.com
> > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> > http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-25 Thread Robert Calco

On Apr 25, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:

> Don't have a standing on this issue of French internal politics,  
> France
> is not dangerous to the rest of the world. But.

I disagree. Consider the Muslim youth riots of not-so-long-ago.  
France is a microcosm of what European left-leaning policies have  
wrought on what used to be called European culture, and within a few  
short decades, if trends continue, the radical Muslims who preach  
death to the West from the underbelly of European society will have  
overtaken several nuclear nations by attrition.

That's a reason to at least care about European politics.

- Bob

>
> Robert Calco wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2mzy2v
>>
>> - - -
>> Ségolène Royal, the first woman with a chance of leading France,
>> began re-shaping her campaign yesterday as she faced a runoff with
>> the clear favourite in the presidential election, the rightwing
>> former interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy.
>>
>> Ms Royal began the difficult task of convincing France that she was
>> not merely an off-the-shelf traditional Socialist in designer
>> clothing and could break away from her party roots to capture the
>> centre ground.
>>
>> With the candidates racing to win over the 7 million people who voted
>> for the centrist third-man François Bayrou, party advisers said Ms
>> Royal would stand no chance of winning if she fought a traditional
>> socialist campaign of "left versus right". Instead she set out to
>> reassure the centre ground she could be all things to all people, to
>> prove, despite her critics, she could reinvent the nation.
>>
>> - - -
>>
>> This article is chock full of nuggets. Consider:
>>
>> 1. Royal and her supporters openly admit they have to lie about her
>> to fool the voters. Typical left wing condescension. On the other
>> hand, it worked for the Dems last year in the elections.
>>
>
> Doesn't seem so. What you cite clearly says 'party advisers' (no  
> names,
> nebulous), neither Ms.Royal nor her supporters.
>
>> 2. Read on:
>>
>> ***
>> Nicolas Sauger, a political analyst, said Ms Royal also had to
>> convince the nation she was not the hesitant, incompetent party
>> outsider her critics described. He said it was crucial to hammer out
>> policies that fitted the centrist vote, such as a pro-European
>> message with a promise of a referendum on any new constitution. She
>> also had to pick up Mr Bayrou's quest to reform French democracy.
>> France's public debt, now at 66% of GDP, was crucial to the centrist
>> campaign and Ms Royal is likely to increase calls to curb spending
>> deficits.
>>
>> But in a campaign focused on personality, Ms Royal faces a difficult
>> fight. Even socialist voters yesterday said they were let down by her
>> speech after Sunday night's results, appearing stiff, wooden and
>> uncomfortable. She is often accused of having a grating voice.
>>
>> Mr Sauger said: "Her problem isn't really one of policies, it's one
>> of image, how she communicates."
>> ***
>>
>> Some observations:
>>
>> 1. You think we have a lot of public debt! I bet if the article
>> mentioned French unemployment rates it would be equally
>> embarrassing for France.
>
> Good example of clear thinking. You justify your public debt with  
> French
> high unemployment rates. Last night my daughter told me I wasn't  
> paying
> her attention, I told her it was justified because our neighbor was
> bald. She didn't get it.
>
>> 2. If her problem isn't one of "policies" but "how she
>> communicates" ... why does she have to avoid a clear left-versus-
>> right battle, in which both she and her opponent are honest about
>> being left and right, respectively? Why does she have to be "pushed
>> to the centre"?
>
> You should ask that. But not to Royal but to Mr.Nicolas Sauger, the
> author of those opinions.
>
>
>> 3. Speaking of grating voices, have these folks heard Hillary! or
>> Pelosi?
>> 4. The West is doomed if Royal and Hillary win.
>
> Yeah! The communist threat. Russia will regroup and invade USA. Hahaha
>
>
>>
>> (Hillary or Obama for that matter, who are both wacko lefties who
>> have to pretend to be centrist in order to have a shot.)
>>
>
> And this finally shows your clear and analytical political mind.
>
>> - Bob
>   - Rick
>
>
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RE: [NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
This is weird, but I don't have time to figure it out just now.
If you ever have this scenario, hook up vista by itself to the switch and
let it resolve the IP address.

That will disable the XP box, but you can then hook it up to the router
instead of the switch and it will now find both of them.

I just bought a router and switch the other day and I guess I'm going to
have to RTFM.

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Hardcode it then and see if it works.


--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's what it says, but I can't find it as all the
> "auto assign" boxes are
> checked.
> I'm taking mcafee off now just incase that's part of
> it.
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Of Michael Madigan
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> Subject: Re: [NF] Vista and XP
> 
> Are you using DHCP or hard-coding your IP?  Is it
> possible that both your laptop and desktop have the
> same hard-coded IP?
> 
> 
> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and
> a
> > 20" flatscreen because
> > they had it on sale and I needed a development
> > machine.
> > 
> > My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl
> > modem, a router and a
> > switch and it all works fine.
> > When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on
> > it, it gives me a IP
> > address problem.
> > 
> > If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl
> modem,
> > it works fine.
> > 
> > What gives with that ??
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
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RE: [NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Madigan
Hardcode it then and see if it works.


--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's what it says, but I can't find it as all the
> "auto assign" boxes are
> checked.
> I'm taking mcafee off now just incase that's part of
> it.
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> (830) 864-4726 Home
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
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> Subject: Re: [NF] Vista and XP
> 
> Are you using DHCP or hard-coding your IP?  Is it
> possible that both your laptop and desktop have the
> same hard-coded IP?
> 
> 
> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and
> a
> > 20" flatscreen because
> > they had it on sale and I needed a development
> > machine.
> > 
> > My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl
> > modem, a router and a
> > switch and it all works fine.
> > When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on
> > it, it gives me a IP
> > address problem.
> > 
> > If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl
> modem,
> > it works fine.
> > 
> > What gives with that ??
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Virgil Bierschwale
> > Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> > (830) 329-6774 Cell
> > (830) 864-4799 Fax
> > (830) 864-4726 Home
> > http://www.bierschwale.com
> > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> > http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php
> > 
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RE: [NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
That's what it says, but I can't find it as all the "auto assign" boxes are
checked.
I'm taking mcafee off now just incase that's part of it.

Virgil Bierschwale
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Are you using DHCP or hard-coding your IP?  Is it
possible that both your laptop and desktop have the
same hard-coded IP?


--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and a
> 20" flatscreen because
> they had it on sale and I needed a development
> machine.
> 
> My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl
> modem, a router and a
> switch and it all works fine.
> When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on
> it, it gives me a IP
> address problem.
> 
> If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl modem,
> it works fine.
> 
> What gives with that ??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> (830) 864-4726 Home
> http://www.bierschwale.com
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Re: [NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Madigan
Are you using DHCP or hard-coding your IP?  Is it
possible that both your laptop and desktop have the
same hard-coded IP?


--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and a
> 20" flatscreen because
> they had it on sale and I needed a development
> machine.
> 
> My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl
> modem, a router and a
> switch and it all works fine.
> When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on
> it, it gives me a IP
> address problem.
> 
> If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl modem,
> it works fine.
> 
> What gives with that ??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> (830) 864-4726 Home
> http://www.bierschwale.com
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[NF] Vista and XP

2007-04-25 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I ordered a dell dimension 9200 with 2 gb ram and a 20" flatscreen because
they had it on sale and I needed a development machine.

My laptop has xp on it and its connected to a dsl modem, a router and a
switch and it all works fine.
When I hook up the desktop that has vista home on it, it gives me a IP
address problem.

If I hook the desktop directly up to the dsl modem, it works fine.

What gives with that ??

Thanks,

Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4799 Fax
(830) 864-4726 Home
http://www.bierschwale.com
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
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[OT] Bush vs. Bush

2007-04-25 Thread Ed Leafe
http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=85841


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RE: [OT] JAY LENO..." HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD"

2007-04-25 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Stephen,

> True, check snopes first, but it is still a good essay, the 
> Craig Smith
> one ...

I don't think it is a good essay. I think it is a very slanted view that
tries to paint a hostile portrait of a certain minority segment of the
undocumented worker population. I have known people that fit the
description, but most undocumented workers I have encountered do not fit it.

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Re: [OT] anyone ever used Virgin?

2007-04-25 Thread Dave Thayer
On 4/24/07, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone ever used Virgin? It looks like they are $20 every 90 days, which
> I could afford. I hardly ever called from my cell, or received a call, for
> that matter, I would not likely use up the admittedly limited airtime.

My kids are on virgin (they have to buy their own minutes out of their
allowance) and I'm considering switching over when my current contract
expires. For a low volume user VM prepay is probably your cheapest
alternative; as long as you buy the $20 worth of minutes every 90 days
your unused minutes will roll over.

They use the Sprint network, so the coverage is as good or bad as
Sprint's is for your area. Here in Colorado, the urban areas are well
covered but the rural coverage isn't anywhere near as good as
Verizon's.

The phones are pretty cheap, I saw a $10 one at Radio Shack, but the
selection is fairly limited and there's no bluetooth or fancy
smartphones. If you use your phone enough to want these features the
prepay probably wouldn't be economical anyway.

dt

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Re: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Derek Kalweit
> > Hello. I'm sure I'm not the first to have the need for it-- I need a
> > way to detect the current database setup(tables, fields, indexes) and
> > alter the MSSQL database appropriately based on the current state.

> In past development, QA and beta environments, I've used xCase to
> synchronize changes between the xCase model and the target database.
> xCase also helpfully provides SQL change scripts, which I've captured
> and used to incrementally modify production databases.
>
> With Fox as the front end, I have used a "master" table on the target
> database that held the database version, say '42.' When an
> administrative front end connected, it queried the version number,
> then sent modification scripts to the back-end to update it to the
> current version, say, 42to43.sql, 43to44.sql and 44to45.sql. The

Thanks. I considered the versioning mechanism, but decided it could
become a behemoth to maintain every individual update from each
version to the next-- not to mention, if a single alter in a specific
version fails for some reason, it causes more problems-- plus,
creating a new database instead of just altering existing ones
requires separate 'create table' scripts, or for it to run through the
original create table and every alter table for the history of the
entire application

My VBS script(which I just converted very simply to .NET) is actually
very simple. The XML spec is something like this:









With numerous table entries.

The script loops the tables, issuing "create table..." if they don't
exist, and otherwise looping fields and adding, removing, and altering
columns if necessary(I have a simple 'remove=true' attribute in the
field spec to prevent having to compare all the fields). I just have
to add index support to this architecture...

Simple, extensible, re-usable-- I just create a different xml file for
a different project.

I actually just created a simple .NET application that will go out and
update over a dozen such MSSQL(MSDE, really) databases using this
method.


-- 
Derek


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RE: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Rick Schummer
>>I use their SQL-Prompt software (It's free) to get intelligence type prompts 
>>in Query Analyzer! <<

The latest version of SQL Prompt has a price of $195. The previous version 
(free) was not as stable,
but works well.

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RE: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Rick Schummer
Derek,

You might consider checking out the Database Deployment Toolkit from Microfour 
(same group that
created the Strataframe framework for .NET). These guys are VFP guys who loved 
the Stonefield
Database Toolkit, and wanted the same thing for SQL Server for the Update() 
method. I am just
starting to look at it, but the marketing literature sounds promising.

http://strataframe.net/databasedeployment.aspx 


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Re: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/25/07, Derek Kalweit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello. I'm sure I'm not the first to have the need for it-- I need a
> way to detect the current database setup(tables, fields, indexes) and
> alter the MSSQL database appropriately based on the current state.

In past development, QA and beta environments, I've used xCase to
synchronize changes between the xCase model and the target database.
xCase also helpfully provides SQL change scripts, which I've captured
and used to incrementally modify production databases.

With Fox as the front end, I have used a "master" table on the target
database that held the database version, say '42.' When an
administrative front end connected, it queried the version number,
then sent modification scripts to the back-end to update it to the
current version, say, 42to43.sql, 43to44.sql and 44to45.sql. The
administrator application that does this has to have god-like rights
into the database. Note, too, you could add your own scripts, so if
you needed to fill in a lookup table or do more complex manipulations
you could do that, too.

This has the additional benefit that front ends for clients could just
check the target db and report "out of date database, contact your
administrator."

> can't find an easy way to do the same for indexes. I use an XML file
> for my database definition.

And xCase uses dbfs, interestingly enough.

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RE: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Fleck, Timothy
I use their SQL-Prompt software (It's free) to get intelligence type
prompts in Query Analyzer! 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lou Syracuse
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance
scripting/functions?

Check out SQL Compare: http://www.red-gate.com/

We use it to generate update scripts when updating our studios POS
software.
Pick two databases and it scripts the differences: tables, stored procs,
users... handles it all.   Highly recommended.

Lou


-Original Message-
From: Derek Kalweit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> On MSSQL 2K you can right-click the database and chose "All Tasks > 
> Generate SQL Script..." to generate TSQL scripts. You can do this for 
> individual objects, too. Query Analyzer has similar functionality if 
> you left click an object in the object browser pane.

This can create a database creation script, but it can't create a
database update script. I need an adaptable script that will detect the
current state of the database(what fields, indexes, etc. are present),
and update accordingly to the current version.

Thanks.


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RE: Printing Synchronization Problem

2007-04-25 Thread Ken Dibble

>Dunno if attachments work on the mailing list but here is the method.  It
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Scott,

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RE: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/fu nctions?

2007-04-25 Thread Lou Syracuse
Check out SQL Compare: http://www.red-gate.com/

We use it to generate update scripts when updating our studios POS software.
Pick two databases and it scripts the differences: tables, stored procs,
users... handles it all.   Highly recommended.

Lou


-Original Message-
From: Derek Kalweit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> On MSSQL 2K you can right-click the database and chose "All Tasks > 
> Generate SQL Script..." to generate TSQL scripts. You can do this for 
> individual objects, too. Query Analyzer has similar functionality if 
> you left click an object in the object browser pane.

This can create a database creation script, but it can't create a database
update script. I need an adaptable script that will detect the current state
of the database(what fields, indexes, etc. are present), and update
accordingly to the current version.

Thanks.


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Re: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Derek Kalweit
> On MSSQL 2K you can right-click the database and chose "All Tasks >
> Generate SQL Script..." to generate TSQL scripts. You can do this for
> individual objects, too. Query Analyzer has similar functionality if
> you left click an object in the object browser pane.

This can create a database creation script, but it can't create a
database update script. I need an adaptable script that will detect
the current state of the database(what fields, indexes, etc. are
present), and update accordingly to the current version.

Thanks.


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Re: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Derek Kalweit
> Assuming I understand the question, does  "Select * from
> INFORMATION_SCHEMA.CONSTRAINT_COLUMN_USAGE" get you any closer?

Yes, I've seen that. I may have to resort to this, but I was hoping
something a bit simpler was possible. Thanks.


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Re: [OT] Start using biodiesel

2007-04-25 Thread Pete Theisen
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 1:27 pm, Michael Madigan wrote:

Hi Michael!

They have all sorts of fuel heaters, simple and sophisticated, to warm the 
fuel in severe weather. I know one guy who used to put a gallon of gas into 
the tank!

> What he needs is gel plugs. LOL
>
> --- "Michael Oke, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Glow plugs aren't going to be much help if the fuel
> > has gelled and won't
> > flow.
> >
> > ::michael
> >
> > Derek Kalweit wrote:
> > >> The engine I had (Cummins 14 Liter) would
> >
> > generally be ok at 8F if it wasn't
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Re: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Dave Thayer
On 4/25/07, Derek Kalweit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello. I'm sure I'm not the first to have the need for it-- I need a
> way to detect the current database setup(tables, fields, indexes) and
> alter the MSSQL database appropriately based on the current state. I
> have a small VBS script written that can do this for tables and fields
> using INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES and INFORMATION_SCHEMA.COLUMNS, but I
> can't find an easy way to do the same for indexes. I use an XML file
> for my database definition.
>
> Is there a better way? Some way to easily get the index information
> and create/modify them as needed? I'm sure I could probably use the
> sys tables in the master database, but I was hoping there might be
> something easier-- an API even... Anything MSSQL, VFP, VBS, T-SQL,
> .NET, etc. could be a good solution.

On MSSQL 2K you can right-click the database and chose "All Tasks >
Generate SQL Script..." to generate TSQL scripts. You can do this for
individual objects, too. Query Analyzer has similar functionality if
you left click an object in the object browser pane.

dt

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Re: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Vince Teachout
Derek Kalweit wrote:


Assuming I understand the question, does  "Select * from 
INFORMATION_SCHEMA.CONSTRAINT_COLUMN_USAGE" get you any closer?

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RE: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenancescripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread John Weller
Sorry - misunderstood.  :-(

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Kalweit
> Sent: 25 April 2007 18:32
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MSSQL database
> creation/modification/maintenancescripting/functions?
>
>
> > ATAGINFO() ?
>
> Yes, VFP makes it easy(many different ways to do it)-- I'm looking for
> information on how to do it in MSSQL, however. Thanks.
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Derek Kalweit
> ATAGINFO() ?

Yes, VFP makes it easy(many different ways to do it)-- I'm looking for
information on how to do it in MSSQL, however. Thanks.


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Re: [OT] Start using biodiesel

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Madigan
What he needs is gel plugs. LOL



--- "Michael Oke, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Glow plugs aren't going to be much help if the fuel
> has gelled and won't 
> flow.
> 
> ::michael
> 
> Derek Kalweit wrote:
> >> The engine I had (Cummins 14 Liter) would
> generally be ok at 8F if it wasn't
> >> shut off for too long. Minus 8, however, would
> make it choke. I would use
> >> additives all winter, though, because I never
> really knew where I was going
> >> or what was coming.
> >
> > Did you have glow plugs? The glow plugs in my old
> truck usually worked
> > fine. The only time I had a little difficulty even
> with the glow plugs
> > was when it reached -15 or so once a couple
> winters ago. I tried to
> > find an extension for the block heater, but I
> couldn't find one--
> > eventually I got it started, though...
> >
> > Oddly enough, my diesel tractor always started up
> even in the same
> > weather without glow plugs-- it just smoked like
> hell...
> >
> >
> 
> 
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RE: [OT] JAY LENO..." HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD"

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Madigan
It is a good essay.  Maybe we can re-write, attribute
it to the correct author, and start the chain again.



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> > 
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> > 
> > Oh please check snopes.com first.
> > 
> > http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/jayleno.asp
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> >
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RE: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-25 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Heya Bob -

Good observations and commentary.

I had watched the French political news rebroadcast on C-Span re: the
election, and of course NONE of what you mentioned was covered in the
broadcast (was about 2 hours iirc).

She's gonna have a hard time of it, I think so.

Mondo Regards [Bill]
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RE: Interesting VSJ item

2007-04-25 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Heya Brian.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mnSunnofab|tch!!!

Ok, I just cleaned up from spritzing my tea all over my shirt and lap.

Finally, VFP mentioned somewhere in an 'official notice from MS' to ALL of
the developers who BUY their products.

GoGo Gadget CodeBase!!

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RE: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread John Weller
ATAGINFO() ?

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Kalweit
> Sent: 25 April 2007 15:53
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance
> scripting/functions?
> 
> 
> Hello. I'm sure I'm not the first to have the need for it-- I need a
> way to detect the current database setup(tables, fields, indexes) and
> alter the MSSQL database appropriately based on the current state. I
> have a small VBS script written that can do this for tables and fields
> using INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES and INFORMATION_SCHEMA.COLUMNS, but I
> can't find an easy way to do the same for indexes. I use an XML file
> for my database definition.
> 
> Is there a better way? Some way to easily get the index information
> and create/modify them as needed? I'm sure I could probably use the
> sys tables in the master database, but I was hoping there might be
> something easier-- an API even... Anything MSSQL, VFP, VBS, T-SQL,
> .NET, etc. could be a good solution.
> 
> Any comments/suggestions? Thanks.
> 
> 



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Re: [OT] Start using biodiesel

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Oke, II
Glow plugs aren't going to be much help if the fuel has gelled and won't 
flow.

::michael

Derek Kalweit wrote:
>> The engine I had (Cummins 14 Liter) would generally be ok at 8F if it wasn't
>> shut off for too long. Minus 8, however, would make it choke. I would use
>> additives all winter, though, because I never really knew where I was going
>> or what was coming.
>
> Did you have glow plugs? The glow plugs in my old truck usually worked
> fine. The only time I had a little difficulty even with the glow plugs
> was when it reached -15 or so once a couple winters ago. I tried to
> find an extension for the block heater, but I couldn't find one--
> eventually I got it started, though...
>
> Oddly enough, my diesel tractor always started up even in the same
> weather without glow plugs-- it just smoked like hell...
>
>



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Re: VFP 9 Amazing jumping check boxes...

2007-04-25 Thread Richard Kaye
The ultimate solution. Just annoying that it forces me to do that.

Kent Belan wrote:
> Remove the caption from the check box and make a text label for the caption
> where you want it
>   

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Re: VFP 9 Amazing jumping check boxes...

2007-04-25 Thread Richard Kaye
Autosize on. Didn't play with that but thought about it.

MB Software Solutions wrote:

> AutoSize turned on or off?
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MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenance scripting/functions?

2007-04-25 Thread Derek Kalweit
Hello. I'm sure I'm not the first to have the need for it-- I need a
way to detect the current database setup(tables, fields, indexes) and
alter the MSSQL database appropriately based on the current state. I
have a small VBS script written that can do this for tables and fields
using INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES and INFORMATION_SCHEMA.COLUMNS, but I
can't find an easy way to do the same for indexes. I use an XML file
for my database definition.

Is there a better way? Some way to easily get the index information
and create/modify them as needed? I'm sure I could probably use the
sys tables in the master database, but I was hoping there might be
something easier-- an API even... Anything MSSQL, VFP, VBS, T-SQL,
.NET, etc. could be a good solution.

Any comments/suggestions? Thanks.


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RE: [OT] JAY LENO..." HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD"

2007-04-25 Thread Kent Belan
Even if its not true, I agree, its a good essay ...

> 
> True, check snopes first, but it is still a good essay, the Craig Smith
> one ...
> 
> Oh please check snopes.com first.
> 
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/jayleno.asp
> 
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Re: Odd parameter issue

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Hawksworth
It looks like the calling form has a property of the same name that is 
overloading the lparameter value.  prefixing the parameter with m. seems 
to get around this.

Had the original code used the ti prefix it should have it wouldn't have 
happened (even if there is no reason why the scope of a forms property 
should override that of a lparameter (as far as I know).

Its one of those weeks...

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RE: [OT] JAY LENO..." HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD"

2007-04-25 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
True, check snopes first, but it is still a good essay, the Craig Smith
one ...

Oh please check snopes.com first.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/jayleno.asp


--- Kent Belan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> JAY LENO..." HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD"
> 
> The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and
> came across some poll data
> I found rather hard to believe.  It must be true
> given the source, right?
> 
> The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of
> Americans are unhappy with the
> direction the country is headed and 69 percent of
> the country  is unhappy
> with the performance of the president.  In essence
> 2/3s of the citizenry
> just ain't happy and want a change.
> 
> So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started
> thinking, ''What we are so
> unhappy about?''
> 
> Is it that we have electricity and running water 24
> hours a day, 7 days a
> week?  Is our unhappiness the result of having air
> conditioning in the
> summer and heating in the winter?  Could it be that
> 95.4 percent of these
> unhappy folks have a job?  Maybe it is the ability
> to walk into a grocery
> store at any time and see more food in moments than
> Darfur has seen in the
> last year?
> 
> Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific
> Ocean to the  Atlantic
> Ocean without having to present identification
> papers as we move through
> each state?   Or possibly the hundreds of clean and
> safe motels we  would
> find along the way that can provide temporary 
> shelter?  I guess having
> thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from
> around the world is just
> not good enough.  Or could it be that when we wreck
> our car, emergency
> workers show up and provide services to  help all
> and even send a helicopter
> to take you to the hospital.
> 
> Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans
> who own a home.  You may
> be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case
> of a fire, a group of
> trained firefighters will appear in moments and use
> top notch equipment to
> extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family
> and your belongings.  Or
> if, while at home watching one of your many flat
> screen TVs, a burglar or
> prowler intrudes , an officer equipped with a gun
> and a bullet-proof vest
> will come to defend you and your family against
> attack or loss.  This all in
> the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or
> militias raping and
> pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90
> percent of teenagers own
> cell phones and computers.
> 
> How about the complete religious, social and
> political freedoms we enjoy
> that are the envy of everyone in the world?  Maybe
> that is what has 67
> percent of you folks unhappy. Fact is, we are the
> largest group of
> ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen.  
> No wonder the world
> loves the U.S. ,  yet has a great disdain for its
> citizens.  They see us for
> what  we are.  The most blessed people in the world
> who do nothing but
> complain about what we don't have , and what we hate
> about the country
> instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.
> 
> I know, I know.  What about the president who took
> us into war and has no
> plan to get us out?  The president who has a measly
> 31 percent approval
> rating?   Is this the same president who guided the
> nation in the dark days
> after 9/11?  The president that cut taxes to bring
> an economy out of
> recession?  Could this be the same guy who has been
> called every name in the
> book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled
> ungrateful brats safe from
> terrorist attacks?
> 
> The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that
> is out there defending
> you and me? Did you hear how bad the President is on
> the news or talk show?
> Did this news affect you so much, make you so
> unhappy you couldn't take a
> look around for yourself and see all the good things
> and be glad?
> 
> Think about  it..are you upset at the President
> because he actually
> caused you personal pain OR is it because the
> "Media" told you he was
> failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every
> day.
> 
> Make no mistake about it.  The troops in Iraq and
> Afghanistan have
> volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have
> died for your freedom.
> There is currently no draft in this country.  They
> didn't have to go. ; They
> are able to refuse to go and end up with either a
> ''general'' discharge, an
> ''other than honorable'' discharge or, worst case
> scenario, a
> ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the
> brig.
> 
> So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds
> of 69 percent of
> Americans?  Say what you want but I blame it on the
> media.  If it bleeds it
> leads and they specialize in bad news.  Everybody
> will watch a car crash
> with blood and guts.  How many will watch kids
> selling lemonade at the
> corner?  The media knows this and media outlets are
> for-profit corporations.
> They offer what sells , and when criticized, try to
> defend thei

Odd parameter issue

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Hawksworth
Hi folks,

I have a lparameter that has a value of 168 when it is called (looking 
in locals it says 168) yet when it is used or if you copy it to the 
watch window it says 140!  (both show as numeric)

Any ideas?

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RE: Email Rejection - Details for Ed

2007-04-25 Thread Dave Crozier
No Problem,
Thanks

Dave Crozier

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Subject: Re: Email Rejection - Details for Ed

On Apr 25, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> The two messages I have replied to on Profox this morning seem to  
> have been
> rejected:

You happened to send them at the same time I was testing. There was

probably a 5-minute window from when I wrote that typo to when I  
fixed it. It had nothing to do with reply vs. new message.

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RE: VFP 9 Amazing jumping check boxes...

2007-04-25 Thread Kent Belan
Remove the caption from the check box and make a text label for the caption
where you want it

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> Subject: VFP 9 Amazing jumping check boxes...
>
>
> It's the end of the day and I think this form I'm working on is
> possessed. It's pretty simple. Nothing fancy. No page frames, grids,
> etc. Just some labels, text boxes, command buttons and check boxes. I
> positioned everything where I want it, save the form and run it. My
> carefully positioned check boxes move almost all the way off the left
> side of the form. I close the form and they appear almost off the end of
> the form in the designer. When I look at the value for left for both
> controls, they match where I left them in the first place. I repeat this
> process several times. Position them, save and run the form and watch
> them move on their own. I figured there are 2 likely culprits - the font
> I was using or the caption position. Turns out it was door number 2. I
> had the caption set to middle right. When I changed it back to the
> default - middle left - they stay where I put them. Weird...
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Re: Email Rejection - Details for Ed

2007-04-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 25, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> The two messages I have replied to on Profox this morning seem to  
> have been
> rejected:

You happened to send them at the same time I was testing. There was  
probably a 5-minute window from when I wrote that typo to when I  
fixed it. It had nothing to do with reply vs. new message.

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[NF] PkWare are offering a free version of SecureZip

2007-04-25 Thread Alan Bourke
http://www.securezip.com/


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Email Rejection - Details for Ed

2007-04-25 Thread Dave Crozier
Ed,

The two messages I have replied to on Profox this morning seem to have been
rejected:

 

Sending the message again as a new message as opposed to a “Reply” worked
OK.

 

Details Follow:

 

Dave Crozier

 

This is the mail system at host marge.leafe.com.

 

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to
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If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own
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RE: [NF] Getting jump started - techniques...

2007-04-25 Thread John Weller
Dave - that is excellent!!!  If I was still running a team of programmers I
would print it out and pin it on the wall.  I try and follow those precepts
myself (with greater or lesser success ) but don't always succeed.

John Weller
01380 723235
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>
> Whil,
> I think that the secret is in the documentation of the system(s) you do
> before beginning the project. In a word (or three) Design, Design and
> Design.
>
> There is an excellent book called "The Pragmatic Programmer: From
> Journeyman
> to Master" by Andrew Hunt and David Thomas has some good reading in it
> regarding refactoring or generating code from projects that have
> been picked
> up again or from other people.
>
>
> Although not 100% relevant to your question but useful when coding in
> general, I particularly liked the following recommendations
> amongst some of
> my own:
>
> 1. Use the DRY Principle (Don't Repeat Yourself)
> Keep the low level knowledge in the code where it belongs and reserve
> comments for other high level explanations and simple diagrams.
>
> 2. Design Orthogonal Systems
> This effectively removes the "Effects Between Unrelated Things" and allows
> you to pick up projects/code without having to absorb the whole
> thing first,
> which is difficult after a layoff. In the book he describes a "non
> Orthoganal" system to be akin to a helicopter. Only three
> controls but they
> all have a mutual effect on each other. The collective moves you
> up and down
> but when you descend the helicopter moves its nose down and
> begins to rotate
> to spiral - a secondary effect. Lower the left hand lever and you
> then need
> to add compensating backward movement to the right hand stick and push the
> right pedal erc etc. Those of you who have tried to hover a
> helicopter will
> understand that it is a constant juggling act trying to balance all the
> interacting forces. Modifying a system designed in this way is
> consequently
> a nightmare - so stop it happening. Designing a project in layers
>  provides
> a level of abstraction because each layer should only use the abstractions
> provided by the layers below it.
>
> 3. Keep your code decoupled
> Always ensure your code remains isolated from the implementation of other
> outside code
>
> 4. Avoid global data
> Not always possible I know, but a good rule of thumb to keep to
> if possible.
>
> 5. Always be critical of your own code
> Look for any opportunity to improve structure and the resultant code when
> revisited will require the minimum amount of modification. It is
> always more
> difficult to remember what you "thought you should do to code 6
> months ago"
> as opposed to "what you have to do now" to improve a system
>
> 6. Testing
> Have a fully documented set of tests to carry out after any modifications.
> That way the "oh, I'll just add this code...I'm sure that it won't affect
> anything else" phrase won't come back to haunt you.
>
> 7. Use the "Tracer Bullets" technique
> As it says in the book "There are three ways to fire a machine gun in the
> dark"
> a. Find out the exact conditions, location of the target, specification of
> your machine gun and use the manufacturer's tables to calculate the exact
> elevation and bearing to fire on. If you estimated correctly you will hit
> the target.
>
> b. Close your eyes and spray bullets wildly in the general
> direction of the
> target - how many systems have you seen where this is the norm?
>
> or
>
> c. Use tracer bullets
> These are bullets loaded onto the ammo belt at intervals which burn
> phosphorous when fired and "glow in the dark". If the tracer bullets are
> hitting the target then you know damned well that the intervening bullets
> are as well.
>
> Inserting code into a system the equivalent of "tracer bullets" gives
> instant feedback and can produce major changes in the way you approach a
> project. Rather than designing a "fixed specification" allow the tracer
> bullets to refine the final "system" and don’t be afraid to refactor the
> design based upon the "tracer bullet" results. This is a much
> better method
> than prototyping in the normal sense of the word as it can give actual
> factual performance data back immediately. The added benefit is that you
> will have something to demonstrate very early on in the project - which
> customers like. Leave these tracer bullets in to indicate the
> current status
> of NEW code that needs to be generated or features that need to be added
>
> 8. Save all your estimates and be critical of them when making NEW
> estimates. It is really easy to just say "No problem - I can do that
> easily". How often have you done this and when revisiting the code the 5
> minute job took 5 hours. If you ever make an incorrect estimate,
> then LEARN
> from it by finding out WHY it was incorrect.
>
> 9. Use the Rubber Duck Technique
> If possible when trying to pick up a project take time out to explain the
> project design to another person. Their head should just be nodding 

Emulate Auto Fit from Excel

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Davis
Hi,

I am converting a excel spreadsheet to a report layout.  In excel the Auto
Fit feature was used to make sure the information always fitted (or made use
of) the space available.

Is it possible to do this on a report in VFP9, report listener maybe ?

TIA

Chris.


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Re: Interesting VSJ item

2007-04-25 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/25/07, Brian Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just received the latest VSJ newsletter which has this to say:
>
> Visual Studio developments
> 
> Microsoft has been busy making its latest improvements
> to Visual Studio available in the past few weeks, including
> Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Update for Windows Vista.

That is interesting. Note that there are a number of concerns listed
in the release notes regarding parts that aren't working, are due for
update soon, or need to be run with elevated permissions:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb332348.aspx

Notes on SP1 and the "Vista Update to the SP" are here:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb265237.aspx
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Re: [NF] Is Choice Always Good?

2007-04-25 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/25/07, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which is one
> reason why Ubuntu is proving so popular - it takes away the choice to
> some extent.

It's an ugly, ugly process to decide on which one of each of the tools
to include and exclude, I'm sure. But that is a good technique for a
"consumer" distro: "here's one of each of the more common things
you'll need. Use the installation tools to find other stuff if you
want."
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Re: [NF] Getting jump started - techniques...

2007-04-25 Thread Vince Teachout
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
>
> So I'll tell myself, "I'll just open the project, and then go do 
> something else." 
>
> Then I tell myself, "Well, how about if I create a method for the 
> routine I have to write...
>
> And while it's open, ... I might as well 
> write a header. .
>
> And then it's not that much more to sketch out a bit of p-code
>
> Might as well declare some vars local
>
> And start the DO CASE I'm going to need
>
> .
> And now it's 2 am and my routine is done.
And then, at 2am, you sit and stare at yourself in disbelief in growing 
shock and horror, and scream "You tricked me!  You bastard, you tricked 
me!  I feel so USED!"  :-)





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Re: [NF] Is Choice Always Good?

2007-04-25 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/25/07, Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, yes, choice is an awful thing:
>
> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html
>

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[NF] Getting jump started - techniques...

2007-04-25 Thread Dave Crozier
Whil,
I think that the secret is in the documentation of the system(s) you do
before beginning the project. In a word (or three) Design, Design and
Design.

There is an excellent book called "The Pragmatic Programmer: From Journeyman
to Master" by Andrew Hunt and David Thomas has some good reading in it
regarding refactoring or generating code from projects that have been picked
up again or from other people.


Although not 100% relevant to your question but useful when coding in
general, I particularly liked the following recommendations amongst some of
my own:

1. Use the DRY Principle (Don't Repeat Yourself)
Keep the low level knowledge in the code where it belongs and reserve
comments for other high level explanations and simple diagrams.

2. Design Orthogonal Systems
This effectively removes the "Effects Between Unrelated Things" and allows
you to pick up projects/code without having to absorb the whole thing first,
which is difficult after a layoff. In the book he describes a "non
Orthoganal" system to be akin to a helicopter. Only three controls but they
all have a mutual effect on each other. The collective moves you up and down
but when you descend the helicopter moves its nose down and begins to rotate
to spiral - a secondary effect. Lower the left hand lever and you then need
to add compensating backward movement to the right hand stick and push the
right pedal erc etc. Those of you who have tried to hover a helicopter will
understand that it is a constant juggling act trying to balance all the
interacting forces. Modifying a system designed in this way is consequently
a nightmare - so stop it happening. Designing a project in layers  provides
a level of abstraction because each layer should only use the abstractions
provided by the layers below it.

3. Keep your code decoupled 
Always ensure your code remains isolated from the implementation of other
outside code

4. Avoid global data
Not always possible I know, but a good rule of thumb to keep to if possible.

5. Always be critical of your own code
Look for any opportunity to improve structure and the resultant code when
revisited will require the minimum amount of modification. It is always more
difficult to remember what you "thought you should do to code 6 months ago"
as opposed to "what you have to do now" to improve a system

6. Testing
Have a fully documented set of tests to carry out after any modifications.
That way the "oh, I'll just add this code...I'm sure that it won't affect
anything else" phrase won't come back to haunt you.

7. Use the "Tracer Bullets" technique
As it says in the book "There are three ways to fire a machine gun in the
dark"
a. Find out the exact conditions, location of the target, specification of
your machine gun and use the manufacturer's tables to calculate the exact
elevation and bearing to fire on. If you estimated correctly you will hit
the target.

b. Close your eyes and spray bullets wildly in the general direction of the
target - how many systems have you seen where this is the norm?

or

c. Use tracer bullets
These are bullets loaded onto the ammo belt at intervals which burn
phosphorous when fired and "glow in the dark". If the tracer bullets are
hitting the target then you know damned well that the intervening bullets
are as well.

Inserting code into a system the equivalent of "tracer bullets" gives
instant feedback and can produce major changes in the way you approach a
project. Rather than designing a "fixed specification" allow the tracer
bullets to refine the final "system" and don’t be afraid to refactor the
design based upon the "tracer bullet" results. This is a much better method
than prototyping in the normal sense of the word as it can give actual
factual performance data back immediately. The added benefit is that you
will have something to demonstrate very early on in the project - which
customers like. Leave these tracer bullets in to indicate the current status
of NEW code that needs to be generated or features that need to be added

8. Save all your estimates and be critical of them when making NEW
estimates. It is really easy to just say "No problem - I can do that
easily". How often have you done this and when revisiting the code the 5
minute job took 5 hours. If you ever make an incorrect estimate, then LEARN
from it by finding out WHY it was incorrect.

9. Use the Rubber Duck Technique
If possible when trying to pick up a project take time out to explain the
project design to another person. Their head should just be nodding like a
"rubber duck in a bathtub" regardless of whether they understand or not.
HOWEVER, the very fact that you are explaining the design/problem to a 3rd
party in detail will allow you to get a full insight into the project. Note
that the 3rd person can be inanimate - it is the action of describing simply
to someone/something else that makes the technique worthwhile.

10. Use the correct language for the job
Need I say it - VFP!!!


Dave Crozier


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2007-04-25 Thread Dave Crozier
Richard,
That bug has been there since VFP7 days and it still catches me out.

Dave Crozier


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Re: [NF][PHP]Debugging in PHP

2007-04-25 Thread Man-wai CHANG
> Is there any product out there that debugs PHP code reasonably  
> similarly to the way that VFP's debugger works? By which I mean:
>   - Set a breakpoint
>   - Step through code line-by-line
>   - See results (variable values, etc.)

Just dump the values using `echo "$xxx" and print_r($xxx) will do.

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Re: Interesting VSJ item

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Abbott
My reading is that VS6 isn't, only VB6 ...

Alan Bourke wrote:
> I knew VB6 applications were supported on Vista, didn't think Visual
> Studio 6 itself was, though ...


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Re: [NF] Is Choice Always Good?

2007-04-25 Thread Alan Bourke
He's right about that in a sense - the first time I installed Linux I
had to figure out what distro, then after picking Mandrake I ended up
without about 20 text editors for no apparent reason. Which is one
reason why Ubuntu is proving so popular - it takes away the choice to
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Don't have a standing on this issue of French internal politics, France
is not dangerous to the rest of the world. But.

Robert Calco wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/2mzy2v
> 
> - - -
> Ségolène Royal, the first woman with a chance of leading France,  
> began re-shaping her campaign yesterday as she faced a runoff with  
> the clear favourite in the presidential election, the rightwing  
> former interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy.
> 
> Ms Royal began the difficult task of convincing France that she was  
> not merely an off-the-shelf traditional Socialist in designer  
> clothing and could break away from her party roots to capture the  
> centre ground.
> 
> With the candidates racing to win over the 7 million people who voted  
> for the centrist third-man François Bayrou, party advisers said Ms  
> Royal would stand no chance of winning if she fought a traditional  
> socialist campaign of "left versus right". Instead she set out to  
> reassure the centre ground she could be all things to all people, to  
> prove, despite her critics, she could reinvent the nation.
> 
> - - -
> 
> This article is chock full of nuggets. Consider:
> 
> 1. Royal and her supporters openly admit they have to lie about her  
> to fool the voters. Typical left wing condescension. On the other  
> hand, it worked for the Dems last year in the elections.
> 

Doesn't seem so. What you cite clearly says 'party advisers' (no names,
nebulous), neither Ms.Royal nor her supporters.

> 2. Read on:
> 
> ***
> Nicolas Sauger, a political analyst, said Ms Royal also had to  
> convince the nation she was not the hesitant, incompetent party  
> outsider her critics described. He said it was crucial to hammer out  
> policies that fitted the centrist vote, such as a pro-European  
> message with a promise of a referendum on any new constitution. She  
> also had to pick up Mr Bayrou's quest to reform French democracy.  
> France's public debt, now at 66% of GDP, was crucial to the centrist  
> campaign and Ms Royal is likely to increase calls to curb spending  
> deficits.
> 
> But in a campaign focused on personality, Ms Royal faces a difficult  
> fight. Even socialist voters yesterday said they were let down by her  
> speech after Sunday night's results, appearing stiff, wooden and  
> uncomfortable. She is often accused of having a grating voice.
> 
> Mr Sauger said: "Her problem isn't really one of policies, it's one  
> of image, how she communicates."
> ***
> 
> Some observations:
> 
> 1. You think we have a lot of public debt! I bet if the article  
> mentioned French unemployment rates it would be equally  
> embarrassing for France.

Good example of clear thinking. You justify your public debt with French
high unemployment rates. Last night my daughter told me I wasn't paying
her attention, I told her it was justified because our neighbor was
bald. She didn't get it.

> 2. If her problem isn't one of "policies" but "how she  
> communicates" ... why does she have to avoid a clear left-versus- 
> right battle, in which both she and her opponent are honest about  
> being left and right, respectively? Why does she have to be "pushed  
> to the centre"?

You should ask that. But not to Royal but to Mr.Nicolas Sauger, the
author of those opinions.


> 3. Speaking of grating voices, have these folks heard Hillary! or  
> Pelosi?
> 4. The West is doomed if Royal and Hillary win.

Yeah! The communist threat. Russia will regroup and invade USA. Hahaha


> 
> (Hillary or Obama for that matter, who are both wacko lefties who  
> have to pretend to be centrist in order to have a shot.)
> 

And this finally shows your clear and analytical political mind.

> - Bob
  - Rick


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Re: Interesting VSJ item

2007-04-25 Thread Alan Bourke
I knew VB6 applications were supported on Vista, didn't think Visual
Studio 6 itself was, though ...
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RE: Still having problems with Remote desktop and Foxpro 2.5 forWindows

2007-04-25 Thread Alan Bourke
I would also look at this MSKB article, it has details about how to
fiddle with graphic caching settings for the TS client at a lower level.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321706


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Interesting VSJ item

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Abbott
Just received the latest VSJ newsletter which has this to say:

Visual Studio developments

Microsoft has been busy making its latest improvements
to Visual Studio available in the past few weeks, including
Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Update for Windows Vista. The
only development products Microsoft is supporting under
Vista are Visual FoxPro 9.0, VB 6.0 and VS 2005. VS.NET
2002 and 2003 are specifically not supported, and Microsoft
recommends upgrading. The reason is that changes in Vista
security and in networking support make it difficult to ensure
that the older versions of VS will work correctly.


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RE: Still having problems with Remote desktop and Foxpro 2.5 forWindows

2007-04-25 Thread Alan Bourke
Have you tried using the browser-based client?
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RE: Still having problems with Remote desktop and Foxpro 2.5 forWindows

2007-04-25 Thread Alan Bourke
> Consequently it is NOT 100% Windows compliant.

It doesn't necessarily use Windows API controls, that's not the same
thing.

We have had numerous customers over the years running our FPW
application via Citrix and TS, I've never come across this problem. 

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Re: [NF] Is Choice Always Good?

2007-04-25 Thread Chet Gardiner
Oh, yes, choice is an awful thing:

http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html


Ted Roche wrote:
> An excellent essay on why the MS monoculture ("One Microsoft Way")
> isn't always a bad thing:
>
> "Microsoft offers the certainty of no choices. Choice isn't always
> good, and the open source community sometimes offers far too many ways
> to skin the same cat, choices that are born more out of pride, ego or
> stubbornness than a genuine need for two different paths. I won't
> point fingers, everyone knows examples.
>
> Now, least you think I've been turned to the Dark Side, there is one
> BIG problem with a monoculture,... "
>
> Read the rest at:
>
> http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2007/04/the_virtues_of_monoculture.html
>
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RE: [ADMIN] Testing spam filter

2007-04-25 Thread Allen
It didn’t work... Leafe still came through :)
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RE: [NF] Getting jump started - techniques...

2007-04-25 Thread Allen
Stop thinking, its bad for the beer
Allen 

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On Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:58 PM Whil Hentzen wrote:

>Lose your train of thought already? :)

>What do you do to get started on a project again, to regain that
'mental map' of a system you haven't worked 
>with for a while, to begin working first thing in the morning without
piddling around for 20 minutes trying to 
>remember where to start

>that sort of thing...

>OK?

My train of thought derailed!  Yes, I usually have to run the program to
see what isn't working and go from there.

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