[OT] From a grateful nation...

[Graham Brown \(CompSYS\)]

To all Americans

On behalf of we Brits could I express our gratitude at your taking Victoria
Beckham AKA Posh Spice AKA the pounty one off our hands !!
Having seen the news last night she seems to be really settled and there is
absolutely no need to send her back. We hope her talent (lack thereof)
brings a ray of sunshine to you all.

btw also saw on the news last night. President Bush appeared to have a go at
running our prime minister over with a golf cart, he seemed to be going
round and round in circles with Gordon clinging on for his life. Could
clearly hear the people in the background laughing. Interesting that this
clip hasn't appear on any further news bulletins since!

10 out of 10 for the idea but must try harder, next time tyre tracks over
his middle please.

Again many thanks

Signed
The Brits



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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Peter Cushing]

Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Want to contribute to Dabo, but don't feel you understand the inner
> workings of the code that well? Do you speak a language other than
> English well enough to translate some of the localizable strings from
> English to your language? Well, we need you to help localize Dabo for
> as many languages as possible.
>
>   We're using the translation service provided by Launchpad, which is
> an online product from Canonical, the same folks who bring you Ubuntu
> Linux. I've set up these languages as our main targets:
>
> Brazilian Portuguese
> Chinese (Hong Kong)
> Czech
> Dutch
> English (United Kingdom)
>   
Of course one can help with the Queen's english.  Must teach Johnny 
Foreigner a thing or two ;-)

Peter




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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Michael Madigan]

Thanks for nothing.

What kind of self-indulgant a-holes are these people?

Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world nation
that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives a crap?

His wife dresses like a slut, just what American
youngsters need, another bad roll model.

They both make me sick.  

Bend it like Beckman?  I hope he breaks it.



--- "Graham Brown (CompSYS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> To all Americans
> 
> On behalf of we Brits could I express our gratitude
> at your taking Victoria
> Beckham AKA Posh Spice AKA the pounty one off our
> hands !!
> Having seen the news last night she seems to be
> really settled and there is
> absolutely no need to send her back. We hope her
> talent (lack thereof)
> brings a ray of sunshine to you all.
> 
> btw also saw on the news last night. President Bush
> appeared to have a go at
> running our prime minister over with a golf cart, he
> seemed to be going
> round and round in circles with Gordon clinging on
> for his life. Could
> clearly hear the people in the background laughing.
> Interesting that this
> clip hasn't appear on any further news bulletins
> since!
> 
> 10 out of 10 for the idea but must try harder, next
> time tyre tracks over
> his middle please.
> 
> Again many thanks
> 
> Signed
> The Brits
> 
> 
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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Brian Abbott]

Peter Cushing wrote:
> Ed Leafe wrote:
>>  Want to contribute to Dabo, but don't feel you understand the inner
>> workings of the code that well? Do you speak a language other than
>> English well enough to translate some of the localizable strings from
>> English to your language? Well, we need you to help localize Dabo for
>> as many languages as possible.
>>
>>  We're using the translation service provided by Launchpad, which is
>> an online product from Canonical, the same folks who bring you Ubuntu
>> Linux. I've set up these languages as our main targets:
>>
>> Brazilian Portuguese
>> Chinese (Hong Kong)
>> Czech
>> Dutch
>> English (United Kingdom)
>>   
> Of course one can help with the Queen's english.  Must teach Johnny 
> Foreigner a thing or two ;-)
> 

Wot, like this you mean ?

http://www.snoglondon.com/f/17550

;-)

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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Peter Cushing]

Brian Abbott wrote:
> Wot, like this you mean ?
>
> http://www.snoglondon.com/f/17550
>
> ;-)
>
>   
Yeah class :-)

Peter




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Re: [NF] M$ wins out over RH Linux in China (TechRepublic article)

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> I think there is a bigger issue here. Even when they had a free  
> alternative [Red Flag Linux], they still would use Microsoft.
> you can't even give Linux away so that people would use it.

It's up to Firefox and OpenOffice now! and I would bet they could win.
in the long run... :)

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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Man-wai Chang]

> Chinese (Hong Kong)

Does Dabo support both unicode and double-bytes?

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Dabo Virtual Machine for Firefox/IE?

[Man-wai Chang]

Will there be such a project? :)

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RE: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Adam Buckland]

Many times more people than care about Football or Baseball combined or
for that matter any other sport.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Michael Madigan
Sent: 31 July 2007 09:57


Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world nation
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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Thanks for nothing.
> 
> What kind of self-indulgant a-holes are these people?
> 
> Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world nation
> that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives a crap?
> 
> His wife dresses like a slut, just what American
> youngsters need, another bad roll model.

Yes. You US'ers need better "ROLE" models. You know, people who actually
know how to spell.

> 
> They both make me sick.  
> 
> Bend it like Beckman?  I hope he breaks it.
> 
> 
> 
> --- "Graham Brown (CompSYS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> To all Americans
>>
>> On behalf of we Brits could I express our gratitude
>> at your taking Victoria
>> Beckham AKA Posh Spice AKA the pounty one off our
>> hands !!
>> Having seen the news last night she seems to be
>> really settled and there is
>> absolutely no need to send her back. We hope her
>> talent (lack thereof)
>> brings a ray of sunshine to you all.
>>
>> btw also saw on the news last night. President Bush
>> appeared to have a go at
>> running our prime minister over with a golf cart, he
>> seemed to be going
>> round and round in circles with Gordon clinging on
>> for his life. Could
>> clearly hear the people in the background laughing.
>> Interesting that this
>> clip hasn't appear on any further news bulletins
>> since!
>>
>> 10 out of 10 for the idea but must try harder, next
>> time tyre tracks over
>> his middle please.
>>
>> Again many thanks
>>
>> Signed
>> The Brits
>>


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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Graham Brown (CompSYS) wrote:
> To all Americans
> 
> On behalf of we Brits could I express our gratitude at your taking Victoria
> Beckham AKA Posh Spice AKA the pounty one off our hands !!
> Having seen the news last night she seems to be really settled and there is
> absolutely no need to send her back. We hope her talent (lack thereof)
> brings a ray of sunshine to you all.
> 
> btw also saw on the news last night. President Bush appeared to have a go at
> running our prime minister over with a golf cart, he seemed to be going
> round and round in circles with Gordon clinging on for his life. Could
> clearly hear the people in the background laughing. Interesting that this
> clip hasn't appear on any further news bulletins since!
> 
> 10 out of 10 for the idea but must try harder, next time tyre tracks over
> his middle please.
> 
> Again many thanks
> 
> Signed
> The Brits
> 

And as soon as they realize their 'American Football' is just bad rugby
you promise to take her back again.




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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:

> Does Dabo support both unicode and double-bytes?

Yes; you just need to set the locale at the beginning of the  
program. This is a Python issue, and Dabo benefits from Python's  
unicode support. See http://python.cn/

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Re: Dabo Virtual Machine for Firefox/IE?

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:

> Will there be such a project? :)

No plans for anything like that, but if some ambitious soul wanted  
to, we would certainly encourage them.

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RE: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Adam Buckland]

You do know who are the reigning Olympic Rugby Gold Medallists are don't you?

http://tinyurl.com/2yrq77


::a

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And as soon as they realize their 'American Football' is just bad rugby
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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Man-wai Chang]

>> Does Dabo support both unicode and double-bytes?
>   Yes; you just need to set the locale at the beginning of the  
> program. This is a Python issue, and Dabo benefits from Python's  
> unicode support. See http://python.cn/

I think a good programmer should be good in the human language the
development tool based on. So translation to Traditional Chinese (zh_TW,
zh_HK) ... um :)

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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 5:52 AM, Graham Brown ((CompSYS)) wrote:

> On behalf of we Brits could I express our gratitude at your taking  
> Victoria
> Beckham AKA Posh Spice AKA the pounty one off our hands !!
> Having seen the news last night she seems to be really settled and  
> there is
> absolutely no need to send her back. We hope her talent (lack thereof)
> brings a ray of sunshine to you all.

My wife works as a coordinator for a very high-end spa in the area.  
In the last month or so she says that there have been a significant  
number of women requesting to have their hair done like Posh's.

So since we've done you all a favor, perhaps you'd like to take some  
of our no-talent airheads off our hands? Britney and Paris come to  
mind; feel free to take them and any others you fancy.

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RE: [NF] Consulting saga Code or ID?

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>  We are creating the primary key on a textbox input that the user will
> think up.

What a brilliant [EMAIL PROTECTED] solutions!  I wish I had thought of that one 
for
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Idiots.

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> tables.  I'm over the multiple tables, but now I have a new
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> think up.  That same key will be displayed when I do my Chinese menu GUI
> interface of select one  from column A and one from column B.
>
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>
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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Adam Buckland wrote:
> You do know who are the reigning Olympic Rugby Gold Medallists are don't you?
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2yrq77
> 
> 

But that was in 1920 and 24, before you made up your hideous game. Can
your actual teams compete with the All Blacks? Or the Brits? or French?



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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

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Peter Cushing wrote:
> Of course one can help with the Queen's english.  Must teach Johnny 
> Foreigner a thing or two ;-)
>
>   

"Johnny Foreigner" ??  Hey, I resemble that remark!  

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RE: Network problems

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> Problem is that it ends up I
> have to do
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It just does not seem fair, does it?  In order to prove your innocence you
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anyone who really gives a rat's ass about how much you busted your tail for
somebody else's failing.  In fact, you could end up being resented by the
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too well.

I have been known to take a position with various "ignorant" vendors on
different matters of paying me for my time to diagnose a problem I was
blamed for if it turned out to be the blaming vendor's problem.  I have
never been taken up on it (Uh, I can't authorize that kind of money...".
But since these issues were usually impacting recurring license fee based
clients I would take on the project anyway (out of the goodness of my cold,
hard heart ), prove my point, embarrass the vendor(s) involved in the
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gonna trust!?!).  These issues have involved poor performance on a network
(software vendor was caching all Firebird tables from a Server to each local
machine upon app load, therefore the problem was with the client's
network!), to VFP app running poorly (some PCs were plugged into an Ethernet
HUB, not switch, that was servicing an Exchange Server), to the inability to
completely bridge two subnets together between separate locations (vendor
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connection, therefore my fault.  Once I discovered the problem they claimed
I must have changed the setting.  Assholes, I did not have the Router
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failure to reach online Internet remote support app (one of two DNS Servers
used by the vendor had an invalid target IP Address, took me 3 full days to
track that one down.  No "thank you" from this international vendor, of
course, although it fixed a national problem that plagued them for a few
prior years), -C caused Linux system port shutdown whereas previous
UNIX platform had no such problem (I was pooh-poohed re: the -C
observation, then later told "we never supported -C to kill
processes".  Who the hell had been teaching that to their End Users for over
20 years then?), etc., etc., etc

As you can guess, I have plenty more stories to share with my past 23 years
of experience in this industry, and some of them were from my earliest years
when I was a true Green Horn.  All seem to have a similar pattern.
Something goes wrong, the vendor points to what they think is the weakest
target (me, I guess because I work out my home office instead of some glitzy
palace), I end up proving irrefutably their culpability (not so much my
innocence), let them try to explain it away to the client they had told "Gil
Hale is at fault on this...", and then let them try to go forward after
losing their credibility.  Funny things is there have been times these same
vendors come back with later issues and tried to lay things off on others
(to include me), only to once again have their pants pulled down in public,
and humiliated for their ignorance and obvious focus on not stepping up to
their responsibilities.

Then again, who is the greater fool, I wonder?  I guess one could argue it
is me, as I end up correcting problems for others where I have no direct or
indirect responsibility.  But, with a recurring license fee based business
there are times I just feel compelled to "earn my keep" over and beyond the
call of duty.  I end up with a very loyal client base.  But, on the other
hand, several unappreciative and undeserving vendors end up benefiting from
my focus on making certain my clients get what they are paying for.  I guess
when I end up drawing my last breath I will be able to look back and know I
tried to do the right things for the rights reasons, and hope my reward is
to not get too hot a place in hell (for the record, I am more of a "return
to carbon cycle" kind of person as opposed to a "heaven and hell" person)
.

Gil


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Network problems
>
>
> Thanks to all the replies on this network problem. I will see if I can get
> this company to sort themselves out. Problem is that it ends up I
> have to do
> something as the program does not work so it looks like my fault.
> Oh well such is life.
> Allen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of mrgmhale
> Sent: 30 July 2007 20:01
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Network problems
>
> > Other AVs are much less intrusive out of the box IME
>
> Yeah, I know, SAV is pretty cranked down.  It was worse with v-10.0.0.
> Things were so protected the PC

Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Vince Teachout]

Graham Brown (CompSYS) wrote:
> To all Americans
>
> On behalf of we Brits could I express our gratitude at your taking Victoria
> Beckham AKA Posh Spice AKA the pounty one off our hands !!
Glad to oblige.  Any chance you could reciprocate and take Lindsey Lohan 
off our hands?


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Re: Network problems

[Ted Roche]

On 7/31/07, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Problem is that it ends up I have to do
> something as the program does not work so it looks like my fault.

Yep. That stinks. Offer the management the opportunity to prove it is
not your software: install the database files on a local hard drive of
one of their machines and let them run it locally for a a day or two.
If it runs fine, it's not your software, and they ought to pay you for
the day's work, as well as hire someone to fix their screwed-up
network. If it is your software, your efforts cost them nothing and
you fix it for free. Throw in a free lunch for the entire office if
you're feeling cocky.

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Re: [NF] Lazar in the news with WGA messup

[Pete Theisen]

On Tuesday 31 July 2007 01:08, Allen wrote:
> No Pete, its not that bad. Nothing can be that bad :) . Just the service is
> rubbish.

Hi Allen!

Oh, you had me going for a minute! Not that I ever get going . . .

> On Monday 30 July 2007 17:02, Allen wrote:
> > Just to make it clear. Its not that I think acer is a bad product
> > hardware wise, but the service is total crap, at least in the uk. I
> > had to treaten them with the office of fair traiding, and actualy
> > write the letter to the office, before they would do anything about a
> > machine that was DOA.
>
> Finally, a notebook even worse than Toshiba :-(
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RE: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Adam Buckland]

Actually yes, I'm Welsh with dual nationality so I know all about passion and 
embarrassment.

-Original Message-
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Adam Buckland wrote:
> You do know who are the reigning Olympic Rugby Gold Medallists are don't you?
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2yrq77
> 
> 

But that was in 1920 and 24, before you made up your hideous game. Can
your actual teams compete with the All Blacks? Or the Brits? or French?



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Re: [OT] And the saga continues ...

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 30 July 2007 23:54, Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> Pete,
>
> > Make a list of what you still need and put wanted ads one
> > item at a time on
> > freecycle. You might get some of them. You can store the
> > material inside the
> > house, if I have been reading this right.
>
> It is the labor that is eating us up right now. Steve is not capable of
> doing much on the house because of his health problems. The people we've
> been hiring keep going way over budget. The latest is the finish carpenter,
> who is costing twice what was expected.

Hi Kristyne!

How are you at working wood? It isn't that hard, actually. I know a lot of 
women who work wood. Do it yourself and save some money?
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Re: [NF] M$ wins out over RH Linux in China (TechRepublic article)

[Pete Theisen]

On Tuesday 31 July 2007 05:13, Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > I think there is a bigger issue here. Even when they had a free
> > alternative [Red Flag Linux], they still would use Microsoft.
> > you can't even give Linux away so that people would use it.
>
> It's up to Firefox and OpenOffice now! and I would bet they could win.
> in the long run... :)

Hi Man-wai!

Hmm, $3 US as opposed to "free"? How much is $3 US in China these days in 
terms of the average income?

When I was in medical school some time ago a doctor in China was being paid 
$30 US per month. He or She could not possibly afford a computer with M$ 
software in those days.
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See what FedEx is all about from a view in space.

[stephen . russell]

http://news.van.fedex.com/inside?v=3689

 

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RE: Network problems

[Allen]

Well it seems they moved things about and it started working ok except a few
things that I believe are left over from the original problem. Turns out (if
this is all correct) that on one machine they have symantec AV and firewall.
Trying it on another machine with just the AV and it sped up and didn’t
crash. So far it looks like a bad setup of the firewall. I hope that will be
the end of it.
Allen 

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Yep. That stinks. Offer the management the opportunity to prove it is not
your software: install the database files on a local hard drive of one of
their machines and let them run it locally for a a day or two.
If it runs fine, it's not your software, and they ought to pay you for the
day's work, as well as hire someone to fix their screwed-up network. If it
is your software, your efforts cost them nothing and you fix it for free.
Throw in a free lunch for the entire office if you're feeling cocky.

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RE: Network problems

[Allen]

Sounds like you are an expert on going through it :)
It certainly is a big problem for software engineers when things go wrong.
Allen 

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> Problem is that it ends up I
> have to do
> something as the program does not work so it looks like my fault.

It just does not seem fair, does it?  In order to prove your innocence you
end up identifying the real problem, and get no real thanks for it from
anyone who really gives a rat's ass about how much you busted your tail for
somebody else's failing.  In fact, you could end up being resented by the
very folks that ought to be thanking you for the help.  I know that path far
too well.

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Re: Network problems

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On 7/31/07, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sounds like you are an expert on going through it :)

It's happened more than once. And sometimes I've bought the office
lunch, but at least we got the problem solved ;)

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Strip non-ASCII characters

[Bill Kressbach]

Does anyone know of an easy way to strip off any non-ACSII characters from a
string?

Bill




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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[MB Software Solutions]

Bill Kressbach wrote:
> Does anyone know of an easy way to strip off any non-ACSII characters from a
> string?
>
> Bill
>   
Ed Leafe had posted such a code sample awhile back using STRTRAN.  You 
might check the archives for it.  I can't recall it off the top of my 
head.  That's something I always need to consult the Hacker's Guide for 
syntax.  ;-)


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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Brian Abbott]

This sort of thing?

cString = CHRTRAN(tcString, '<>|*?:!"\/', '')

or, step thro' a character at a time and use ISALPHA + ISDIGIT ?

Bill Kressbach wrote:
> Does anyone know of an easy way to strip off any non-ACSII characters from a
> string?
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[NF] Sticking with Office 2003 is a better choice than Office 2007

[MB Software Solutions]

from http://tinyurl.com/3669fv:

"Microsoft Office 2007, the new office suite that aims to replace
older platforms, introduces numerous changes and new features.
However, the very modifications that make Office 2007 attractive
also complicate its use. From incompatible new file formats to a
drastically changed user interface, many organizations will be
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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh]

> cString = CHRTRAN(tcString, '<>|*?:!"\/', '')
> or, step thro' a character at a time and use ISALPHA + ISDIGIT ?


Um, he said "non-ASCII", not non-alpha or non-numeric.

But, what's a non-ASCII character? One that returns 0 from ASC()?

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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[MB Software Solutions]

Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
> But, what's a non-ASCII character? One that returns 0 from ASC()?
>   

Non-ASCII = "EBCDIC"  


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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
>> cString = CHRTRAN(tcString, '<>|*?:!"\/', '')
>> or, step thro' a character at a time and use ISALPHA + ISDIGIT ?
> 
> 
> Um, he said "non-ASCII", not non-alpha or non-numeric.
> 
> But, what's a non-ASCII character? One that returns 0 from ASC()?
> 
> Ken
> 
Actually there will be no non-ascii characters.
A string is a list of bytes, ascii is just a way of interpreting them,
so if you decide the string is in ascii format, every character will be
an ascii character.


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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:37 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:

>> Does anyone know of an easy way to strip off any non-ACSII  
>> characters from a
>> string?
>>
>> Bill
>>
> Ed Leafe had posted such a code sample awhile back using STRTRAN.  You
> might check the archives for it.  I can't recall it off the top of my
> head.  That's something I always need to consult the Hacker's Guide  
> for
> syntax.  ;-)

Basically, the idea is to define the good characters, and use  
STRTRAN on the original string to remove the good characters. That  
leaves all the bad characters, right? Now run STRTRAN against the  
original string with the bad chars; all that will be left is the good  
chars. In code:

LPARAMETERS targetStr
* We want only chars < 128
good = ""
FOR ii = 1 TO 127
good = good + CHR(ii)
ENDFOR
bad = STRTRAN(targetStr, good)
IF EMPTY(bad)
ret = targetStr
ELSE
ret = STRTRAN(targetStr, bad)
ENDIF
RETURN ret

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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:

> Actually there will be no non-ascii characters.
> A string is a list of bytes, ascii is just a way of interpreting them,
> so if you decide the string is in ascii format, every character  
> will be
> an ascii character.

What if the byte represents the number 522? That is undefined in ASCII.

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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Andy Davies]

>What if the byte represents the number 522? That is undefined in ASCII.
>-- Ed Leafe

OK I'll byte (sorry!)
what is the 8-bit representation of the [decimal]number 522?


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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

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Ed Leafe wrote:
>   What if the byte represents the number 522? That is undefined in ASCII.
>
>   
In Foxpro tables, won't that be stored as '5' - chr(53) then '2' - 
chr(50) then '2' - chr(50)
They will be stored differently by the OS, but in a table each digit 
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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> 
>> Actually there will be no non-ascii characters.
>> A string is a list of bytes, ascii is just a way of interpreting them,
>> so if you decide the string is in ascii format, every character  
>> will be
>> an ascii character.
> 
>   What if the byte represents the number 522? That is undefined in ASCII.
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
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> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
> 

Sorry byte = 8 bits => 1+2+4+8+16+32+64+128 == binary == 255
(top ascii char). No way a byte can be 522.


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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

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Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:37 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
> 
>>> Does anyone know of an easy way to strip off any non-ACSII  
>>> characters from a
>>> string?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>> Ed Leafe had posted such a code sample awhile back using STRTRAN.  You
>> might check the archives for it.  I can't recall it off the top of my
>> head.  That's something I always need to consult the Hacker's Guide  
>> for
>> syntax.  ;-)
> 
>   Basically, the idea is to define the good characters, and use  
> STRTRAN on the original string to remove the good characters. That  
> leaves all the bad characters, right? Now run STRTRAN against the  
> original string with the bad chars; all that will be left is the good  
> chars. In code:
> 
> LPARAMETERS targetStr
> * We want only chars < 128
> good = ""
> FOR ii = 1 TO 127
>   good = good + CHR(ii)
> ENDFOR
> bad = STRTRAN(targetStr, good)
> IF EMPTY(bad)
>   ret = targetStr
> ELSE
>   ret = STRTRAN(targetStr, bad)
> ENDIF
> RETURN ret
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
> 

Don't think this will work, strtran(mystr, 'ab') will replace all the
'ab' with nothing, but will do nothing to single 'a' or single 'b'.
Probably should use CHRTRAN(targetStr, bad) instead of
STRTRAN(targetStr, bad).


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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

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On 7/31/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > cString = CHRTRAN(tcString, '<>|*?:!"\/', '')
> > or, step thro' a character at a time and use ISALPHA + ISDIGIT ?
>
>
> Um, he said "non-ASCII", not non-alpha or non-numeric.
>
> But, what's a non-ASCII character? One that returns 0 from ASC()?

ASCII only defines characters < 128 (7 bit).

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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

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> Don't think this will work...

it works!

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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

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On Jul 31, 2007, at 12:22 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:

> Don't think this will work, strtran(mystr, 'ab') will replace all the
> 'ab' with nothing, but will do nothing to single 'a' or single 'b'.
> Probably should use CHRTRAN(targetStr, bad) instead of
> STRTRAN(targetStr, bad).

Doh! That's what happens when I copy from the previous message.

Yes, I meant CHRTRAN.

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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

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The code is for monitoring the Emergency Alert System (EAS) for a radio
station.  Sometimes a little noise from the receiver will add a few bytes of
data to the beginning of the message while the receiver is trying to lock
up.  This latest one is   00 00 FF 00 FF 00 00 (HEX).  These characters will
sometimes confuse the software causing strange results.  So I need to remove
them.  I am a little concerned about the amount of time required to remove
them but I could try a modification of Ed's code by keeping anything between
20 and 127.

Bill


> Actually there will be no non-ascii characters.
> A string is a list of bytes, ascii is just a way of interpreting them,
> so if you decide the string is in ascii format, every character will be
> an ascii character.




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RE: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Michael Madigan]

I meant people who matter.



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> 
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> 
> Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world
> nation
> that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives a crap?
> 
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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Michael Madigan]

Anyone who has seen Paris' porno movies can tell you
she certainly has talent.  


--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jul 31, 2007, at 5:52 AM, Graham Brown
> ((CompSYS)) wrote:
> 
> > On behalf of we Brits could I express our
> gratitude at your taking  
> > Victoria
> > Beckham AKA Posh Spice AKA the pounty one off our
> hands !!
> > Having seen the news last night she seems to be
> really settled and  
> > there is
> > absolutely no need to send her back. We hope her
> talent (lack thereof)
> > brings a ray of sunshine to you all.
> 
>   My wife works as a coordinator for a very high-end
> spa in the area.  
> In the last month or so she says that there have
> been a significant  
> number of women requesting to have their hair done
> like Posh's.
> 
>   So since we've done you all a favor, perhaps you'd
> like to take some  
> of our no-talent airheads off our hands? Britney and
> Paris come to  
> mind; feel free to take them and any others you
> fancy.
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
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RE: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Tracy Pearson]

With VFP 9 you could use Rtrim(variable, 0, chr(0), chr(0xff))
Tracy

-Original Message-
From: Behalf Of Bill Kressbach
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:37 PM

The code is for monitoring the Emergency Alert System (EAS) for a radio
station.  Sometimes a little noise from the receiver will add a few bytes of
data to the beginning of the message while the receiver is trying to lock
up.  This latest one is   00 00 FF 00 FF 00 00 (HEX).  These characters will
sometimes confuse the software causing strange results.  So I need to remove
them.  I am a little concerned about the amount of time required to remove
them but I could try a modification of Ed's code by keeping anything between
20 and 127.

Bill




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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Andy Davies wrote:
>> Don't think this will work...
> 
> it works!
> 
> Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP
>   - AndyD8-)#
> 
> 

Does it?


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RE: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Tracy Pearson]

LTRIM would work better for beginning characters.

Tracy

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With VFP 9 you could use Rtrim(variable, 0, chr(0), chr(0xff)) Tracy

-Original Message-
From: Behalf Of Bill Kressbach
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:37 PM

The code is for monitoring the Emergency Alert System (EAS) for a radio
station.  Sometimes a little noise from the receiver will add a few bytes of
data to the beginning of the message while the receiver is trying to lock
up.  This latest one is   00 00 FF 00 FF 00 00 (HEX).  These characters will
sometimes confuse the software causing strange results.  So I need to remove
them.  I am a little concerned about the amount of time required to remove
them but I could try a modification of Ed's code by keeping anything between
20 and 127.

Bill




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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Pete Theisen]

On Tuesday 31 July 2007 13:06, Michael Madigan wrote:
> And Welshing on a bet. LOL

Hi Michael!

A pleasant relief from all the Belgian waffling.
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RE: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Michael Madigan]

And Welshing on a bet. LOL



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> know all about passion and embarrassment.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> > You do know who are the reigning Olympic Rugby
> Gold Medallists are don't you?
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/2yrq77
> > 
> > 
> 
> But that was in 1920 and 24, before you made up your
> hideous game. Can
> your actual teams compete with the All Blacks? Or
> the Brits? or French?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> I meant people who matter.
> 

Then it would be you and your hairy right hand.

> 
> 
> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Many times more people than care about Football or
>> Baseball combined or
>> for that matter any other sport.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of Michael Madigan
>> Sent: 31 July 2007 09:57
>>
>>
>> Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world
>> nation
>> that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives a crap?
>>
>>
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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

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Bill Kressbach wrote:
> The code is for monitoring the Emergency Alert System (EAS) for a radio
> station.  Sometimes a little noise from the receiver will add a few bytes of
> data to the beginning of the message while the receiver is trying to lock
> up.  This latest one is   00 00 FF 00 FF 00 00 (HEX).  These characters will
> sometimes confuse the software causing strange results.  So I need to remove
> them.  I am a little concerned about the amount of time required to remove
> them but I could try a modification of Ed's code by keeping anything between
> 20 and 127.

If time is an issue you might clock these too and use the fastest (the
second one assumes the foreign characters appear only at the beginning
of the string) :

LPARAMETERS targetStr

local bad, ii
bad = ""
FOR ii = 0 TO 19
bad = bad + CHR(ii)
ENDFOR
FOR ii = 128 TO 255
bad = bad + CHR(ii)
ENDFOR

RETURN STRTRAN(targetStr, bad)

lparameters targetStr

local ii
for ii = 1 to len(targetStr)
if not between(ASC(substr(targetStr, ii, 1)), 20, 127)
return substr(targetStr, ii+1)
endif
endfor

> 
> Bill
> 
> 
>> Actually there will be no non-ascii characters.
>> A string is a list of bytes, ascii is just a way of interpreting them,
>> so if you decide the string is in ascii format, every character will be
>> an ascii character.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

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My hairy right hand matches your mother's hairy back.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > I meant people who matter.
> > 
> 
> Then it would be you and your hairy right hand.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> Many times more people than care about Football
> or
> >> Baseball combined or
> >> for that matter any other sport.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
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> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Michael Madigan
> >> Sent: 31 July 2007 09:57
> >>
> >>
> >> Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world
> >> nation
> >> that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives a
> crap?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
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Re: Strip non-ASCII characters

[Bill Kressbach]

Yes, this seems to work pretty well, using an LTRIM.  I've only had trouble
with these characters at the beginning of a string so I think I'll try it
and see if it clears the problem.

Thanks, Bill


> With VFP 9 you could use Rtrim(variable, 0, chr(0), chr(0xff))
> Tracy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Behalf Of Bill Kressbach
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:37 PM
>
> The code is for monitoring the Emergency Alert System (EAS) for a radio
> station.  Sometimes a little noise from the receiver will add a few bytes
of
> data to the beginning of the message while the receiver is trying to lock
> up.  This latest one is   00 00 FF 00 FF 00 00 (HEX).  These characters
will
> sometimes confuse the software causing strange results.  So I need to
remove
> them.  I am a little concerned about the amount of time required to remove
> them but I could try a modification of Ed's code by keeping anything
between
> 20 and 127.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> My hairy right hand matches your mother's hairy back.
> 

I'd rather have a hairy mother than be a wanker. (and yes, I clearly
understand what you are trying to convey)

BTW, you shouldn't speak so lightly of deceased ones, my mother passed
away last year.


> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> I meant people who matter.
>>>
>> Then it would be you and your hairy right hand.
>>
>>>
>>> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
 Many times more people than care about Football
>> or
 Baseball combined or
 for that matter any other sport.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: 31 July 2007 09:57


 Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world
 nation
 that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives a
>> crap?




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Re: [NF] M$ wins out over RH Linux in China (TechRepublic article)

[Chet Gardiner]

Bill didn't make this stuff up, he learned it from IBM.

The first computer I ever worked on for pay was a freebie, obsolete 
IBM709 given to the Univ. of Fla in the early 60s to hook them into the 
IBM way...

And Tom Watson learned if from drug dealers over the centuries...



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Seems that they are pulling the same stunt they did in India.  Give it away, 
> and let the people grow up with it as well as design in it.  Bill is pretty 
> brilliant in that he is doing a repeat of what Apple did by giving away to 
> schools 25 years ago.  
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [NF] M$ wins out over RH Linux in China (TechRepublic article)
> From: MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, July 30, 2007 6:49 am
> To: Profox 
>
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=525&tag=nl.e101
>
>
> "Microsoft realized that it was powerless to stop widespread piracy
> in China, so it simply threw up the white flag. If Chinese users are
> going to pirate software, Microsoft wants them to pirate Microsoft
> software."
>
> The comments following the article were interesting as well.
>
>   


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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Michael Madigan]

I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > My hairy right hand matches your mother's hairy
> back.
> > 
> 
> I'd rather have a hairy mother than be a wanker.
> (and yes, I clearly
> understand what you are trying to convey)
> 
> BTW, you shouldn't speak so lightly of deceased
> ones, my mother passed
> away last year.
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>> I meant people who matter.
> >>>
> >> Then it would be you and your hairy right hand.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
>  Many times more people than care about Football
> >> or
>  Baseball combined or
>  for that matter any other sport.
> 
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  Behalf Of Michael Madigan
>  Sent: 31 July 2007 09:57
> 
> 
>  Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world
>  nation
>  that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives a
> >> crap?
> 
> 
> 
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Method Name

[Kent Belan]

Hello,
Is there a way in a form method to know what method it was called from ?
Thanks,
Kent



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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Gérard Lochon]

Hello !

If i can help to translate it to french (the biggest alternative market 
place in the world ;o), i'll give my best to the community.
But, far out from here, i don't know anything about dabo ...

Anyway, you can personally join me to plan whereabout what can/must be done.

Gérard.



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MSCOMCT2.OCX installation folder

[MB Software Solutions]

I found a client "in the field" where this control wasn't present on 
their system.  I'm adjusting my Inno setup to compensate for this.  Must 
this file reside in the {sys} folder and be registered or can it just be 
put into the {app} (application) folder?

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Re: MSCOMCT2.OCX installation folder

[MB Software Solutions]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> I found a client "in the field" where this control wasn't present on 
> their system.  I'm adjusting my Inno setup to compensate for this.  Must 
> this file reside in the {sys} folder and be registered or can it just be 
> put into the {app} (application) folder?
>
>   
Found this on the fox.wiki:

Some ActiveX  files
(such as MSCOMCT2.OCX) have the OLESelfRegister
 property
(seen in the Version tab of the file properties dialog) which can
result in unintended and undesirable situations if the control
self-registers to the wrong place.

This can occur when running an application without installing it,
such as from from a folder on a server, CD ROM, USB stick, etc. When
the application uses an ActiveX
 control that is not
registered on the workstation, but for which a copy exists in the
EXE folder, the copy will be used and will register itself using the
mapped drive or UNC path of the EXE folder. This then becomes the
registered location for the OCX, and when it is changed or removed
the controls in the OCX are no longer usable. Using Reg Svr 32
 or similar techniques
to register an instance of the OCX in a suitable folder (typically
%SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32) is usually corrective. Jeff Zanin



Nevermind.  fyi for those who might have been wondering the same thing 
at some point or who search for this in the archive.Looks like 
I'll have my Inno script install it to the {sys} folder and then 
register it.

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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Gérard Lochon wrote:

> If i can help to translate it to french (the biggest alternative  
> market
> place in the world ;o), i'll give my best to the community.
> But, far out from here, i don't know anything about dabo ...

Again, you don't need to know Python or Dabo; just how to use a web  
browser.  ;-)

Just go to https://translations.launchpad.net/dabo/trunk/, and click  
on the language you want to help translate. If there are phrases you  
don't understand, skip 'em, and just work on the ones you do understand.

-- Ed Leafe
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Re: Method Name

[MB Software Solutions]

Kent Belan wrote:
> Hello,
> Is there a way in a form method to know what method it was called from ?
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
>
>
>   

Sure...it's in the stack.  Here's a segment of code from my error 
reporting that gets the stack info:

&& echo call stack to error log
lcStack = "" && init
for lnLoop = 1 to lnPgmLevel
lcStack = lcStack + chr(9) + lower(sys(16,lnLoop)) + CRLF
endfor


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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Gérard Lochon]

Addendum : i previously was one of the french cooperating translators for 
Tamar Granor's "Taming VFP SQL" made by our French Professional user group, 
Atoutfox, for Hentzenwerke editions.

(and remember we have, "exceptionnaly MS speaking", two VFP MVP's not yet 
dead in our association. In fact, they can give me a hand if necessited).

Gérard.




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Re: Method Name

[MB Software Solutions]

Kent Belan wrote:
> Hello,
> Is there a way in a form method to know what method it was called from ?
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
>
>
>   


(oops...forgot to show lnPgmLevel declaratio!)

Sure...it's in the stack.  Here's a segment of code from my error
reporting that gets the stack info:

   lnPgmLevel = program(-1)
&& echo call stack to error log
lcStack = "" && init
for lnLoop = 1 to lnPgmLevel
lcStack = lcStack + chr(9) + lower(sys(16,lnLoop)) + CRLF
endfor


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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[MB Software Solutions]

Gérard Lochon wrote:
> If i can help to translate it to french (the biggest alternative market 
> place in the world ;o), 
>   

Does that mean you're all about those alternative lifestyles?   

Just kidding!  ;-)


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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Gérard Lochon]

>> If i can help to translate it to french (the biggest alternative
>> market
>> place in the world ;o), i'll give my best to the community.
>> But, far out from here, i don't know anything about dabo ...
>

>Again, you don't need to know Python or Dabo; just how to use a web
>browser.  ;-)

What ?

A Web  bro...  brow ... but ...but my, my, what the f**g thing ???

:o)

Oôoôooh, i see, ...

We Are All Brothers ! (brethren was not so intuitive, sorry ...)

;o)))

Gérard.




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Re: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Gérard Lochon]

> Does that mean you're all about those alternative lifestyles?Michael!>

"I" am the solely alternative lifestyle, didn't you have a precognition 
about that ?
 ... but Nicolas Sarkozy wasn't in the way of my mind, so  i just had to 
push him as our president
to recover my integrity and - really - work for the humanlife future

 :o)))

Gérard.

P.s. Psch ... have you got a little fresh water, please ?




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RE: Network problems

[mrgmhale]

I HATE software firewalls!  Far too easy to foul up.  I use them on laptops
for traveling only, never on units behind a decent hardware firewall or
router.

Good work, BTW.  Had I known you had a software firewall I would have
suggested turning it off for testing.

Now then, stop trying to blame the firewall and fix your VFP code ! ...


Gil

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Network problems
>
>
> Well it seems they moved things about and it started working ok
> except a few
> things that I believe are left over from the original problem.
> Turns out (if
> this is all correct) that on one machine they have symantec AV
> and firewall.
> Trying it on another machine with just the AV and it sped up and didn’t
> crash. So far it looks like a bad setup of the firewall. I hope
> that will be
> the end of it.
> Allen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Ted Roche
>
> Yep. That stinks. Offer the management the opportunity to prove it is not
> your software: install the database files on a local hard drive of one of
> their machines and let them run it locally for a a day or two.
> If it runs fine, it's not your software, and they ought to pay you for the
> day's work, as well as hire someone to fix their screwed-up network. If it
> is your software, your efforts cost them nothing and you fix it for free.
> Throw in a free lunch for the entire office if you're feeling cocky.
>
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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.
> 

Naaah! But it was a good scheme to make you apologize. LOL


> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> My hairy right hand matches your mother's hairy
>> back.
>> I'd rather have a hairy mother than be a wanker.
>> (and yes, I clearly
>> understand what you are trying to convey)
>>
>> BTW, you shouldn't speak so lightly of deceased
>> ones, my mother passed
>> away last year.
>>
>>
>>> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Michael Madigan wrote:
> I meant people who matter.
>
 Then it would be you and your hairy right hand.

> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
>> Many times more people than care about Football
 or
>> Baseball combined or
>> for that matter any other sport.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Michael Madigan
>> Sent: 31 July 2007 09:57
>>
>>
>> Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third world
>> nation
>> that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives a
 crap?
>>
>>


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RE: Network problems

[mrgmhale]

If I were a true expert I would duck-n-cover like most of these other idiots
do, instead of trying to do the right thing for my clients. 

Gil

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> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:40 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Network problems
>
>
> Sounds like you are an expert on going through it :)
> It certainly is a big problem for software engineers when things go wrong.
> Allen
>
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Network problems
>
> > Problem is that it ends up I
> > have to do
> > something as the program does not work so it looks like my fault.
>
> It just does not seem fair, does it?  In order to prove your innocence you
> end up identifying the real problem, and get no real thanks for it from
> anyone who really gives a rat's ass about how much you busted
> your tail for
> somebody else's failing.  In fact, you could end up being resented by the
> very folks that ought to be thanking you for the help.  I know
> that path far
> too well.
>
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Re: Network problems

[Paul Hill]

On 7/31/07, mrgmhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I HATE software firewalls!  Far too easy to foul up.  I use them on laptops
> for traveling only, never on units behind a decent hardware firewall or
> router.

Software firewalls are useful for blocking outgoing connections.  I
like to know that program x has just tried to dial home.

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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Michael Madigan]

I value your friendship like a hemorrhoid.



--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.
> > 
> 
> Naaah! But it was a good scheme to make you
> apologize. LOL
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>> My hairy right hand matches your mother's hairy
> >> back.
> >> I'd rather have a hairy mother than be a wanker.
> >> (and yes, I clearly
> >> understand what you are trying to convey)
> >>
> >> BTW, you shouldn't speak so lightly of deceased
> >> ones, my mother passed
> >> away last year.
> >>
> >>
> >>> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
>  Michael Madigan wrote:
> > I meant people who matter.
> >
>  Then it would be you and your hairy right hand.
> 
> > --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote:
> >> Many times more people than care about
> Football
>  or
> >> Baseball combined or
> >> for that matter any other sport.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Michael Madigan
> >> Sent: 31 July 2007 09:57
> >>
> >>
> >> Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third
> world
> >> nation
> >> that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives
> a
>  crap?
> >>
> >>
> 
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[NF] Robot-based inventory system for Staples

[Michael Madigan]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291534,00.html

This is the robot company's website


http://www.kivasystems.com/demonstration-login.php

Here's a video demo. It requires a quick
registration.
This is really cool



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RE: [NF] Sticking with Office 2003 is a better choice than Office 2007

[Rodney Dixon]

After upgrading my work version of Office from 2003 to 2007 I would have
to agree.  The ribbon concept actually isn't that bad ONCE YOU GET USED
TO IT.  That is my biggest gripe right there.  Since I've used Office
since the 97 version, I knew where things were and now it's all
buggered.  I will never understand why they forced you to learn the new
interface.  At least with IE7, you can tap the Alt key and get the old
menus to show up.  That would have been nice in 2007.

Regards
Rodney
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 11:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [NF] Sticking with Office 2003 is a better choice than Office
> 2007
> 
> from http://tinyurl.com/3669fv:
> 
> "Microsoft Office 2007, the new office suite that aims to replace
> older platforms, introduces numerous changes and new features.
> However, the very modifications that make Office 2007 attractive
> also complicate its use. From incompatible new file formats to a
> drastically changed user interface, many organizations will be
> better served remaining standardized on Office 2003."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
> MB Software Solutions, LLC
> http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> http://fabmate.com
> "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!"
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] From a grateful nation...

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> I value your friendship like a hemorrhoid.
> 

LOL

> 
> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.
>>>
>> Naaah! But it was a good scheme to make you
>> apologize. LOL
>>
>>
>>> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Michael Madigan wrote:
> My hairy right hand matches your mother's hairy
 back.
 I'd rather have a hairy mother than be a wanker.
 (and yes, I clearly
 understand what you are trying to convey)

 BTW, you shouldn't speak so lightly of deceased
 ones, my mother passed
 away last year.


> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> I meant people who matter.
>>>
>> Then it would be you and your hairy right hand.
>>
>>> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
 Many times more people than care about
>> Football
>> or
 Baseball combined or
 for that matter any other sport.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: 31 July 2007 09:57


 Who cares about soccer?  Maybe the third
>> world
 nation
 that is Los Angeles, but come on?  Who gives
>> a
>> crap?
>>


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Re: [NF] Sticking with Office 2003 is a better choice than Office 2007

[Paul Hill]

On 7/31/07, Rodney Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After upgrading my work version of Office from 2003 to 2007 I would have
> to agree.  The ribbon concept actually isn't that bad ONCE YOU GET USED
> TO IT.  That is my biggest gripe right there.

I've been using Office 2007 for about 5 months and I have to say I
really hate the ribbon interface with a passion.  By biggest gripe is
that you need to use the mouse to do everything!

You can't turn them off and they eat up tons of screen real estate.

Office 2007 breaks just about GUI style guideline ever written,
including Microsoft's own.  I would go back to 2003 but I've got
customers to support running 2007.

-- 
Paul


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NF: Email mess

[Lew]

I need some help figuring out why I'm getting 2 copies of everything from this 
list. I've had many
subscriptions over the years at different addresses, but the headers for the 
duplicates are identical, byte
for byte. I assume that the problem is somewhere with my isp, but I don't know 
how to address it since I also
get duplicates to *some* but not all of my other lists.
-Lew



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Re: NF: Email mess

[Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Lew wrote:

> ...why I'm getting 2 copies of everything from this list...

Usually when that happens to me, it has something to do with the  
rules I set up (twit filters, directing into a specific mailbox, etc.)

Ken




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Re: NF: Email mess

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Lew wrote:

> I need some help figuring out why I'm getting 2 copies of  
> everything from this list.

You're only subscribed once, so you must have a mailbox so big that  
you're getting echoes.  ;-)

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RE: NF: Email mess

[Lew]

...wouldn't it have to be empty for that to happen? 

-Original Message-
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On Jul 31, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Lew wrote:

> I need some help figuring out why I'm getting 2 copies of  
> everything from this list.

You're only subscribed once, so you must have a mailbox so big that  
you're getting echoes.  ;-)

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[OT] Better communication skills

[Stephen Russell]

Here's a list of "TRY SAYING" new phrases so that proper exchange of ideas
can continue in an effective manner in the office, without risk of offending
our more "sensitive " coworkers...

TRY SAYING:
Perhaps I can work late.
INSTEAD OF:
And when the hell do you expect me to do this?

TRY SAYING:
I'm certain that isn't feasible.
INSTEAD OF:
No stinking way.

TRY SAYING:
Really?
INSTEAD OF:
You've got to be kidding me!

TRY SAYING:
Perhaps you should check with...
INSTEAD OF:
Tell someone who gives a damn.

TRY SAYING:
I wasn't involved in the project.
INSTEAD OF:
It's not my bloody problem.

TRY SAYING:
That's interesting.
INSTEAD OF:
Who gives a crap.

TRY SAYING:
I'm not sure this can be implemented.
INSTEAD OF:
This crap won't work.

TRY SAYING:
I'll try to schedule that.
INSTEAD OF:
Why the hell didn't you tell me sooner?

TRY SAYING:
He's not familiar with the issues.
INSTEAD OF:
He's got his head up his butt.

TRY SAYING:
Excuse me?
INSTEAD OF:
Eat crap and die.

TRY SAYING:
So you weren't happy with it?
INSTEAD OF:
Kiss my butt.

TRY SAYING:
I'm a bit overloaded at the moment.
INSTEAD OF:
Damn it, I'm not working overtime.

TRY SAYING:
I don't think you understand.
INSTEAD OF:
Shove it up your butt, moron.

TRY SAYING:
I love a challenge.
INSTEAD OF:
This job stinks.

TRY SAYING:
You want me to take care of that?
INSTEAD OF:
Who the hell died and made you king?

TRY SAYING:
I see.
INSTEAD OF:
Blow me.

TRY SAYING:
I think you could use more training.
INSTEAD OF:
You don't know what the hell you're doing.

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer
 
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do
them absolutely no good." 
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Re: [NF] Sticking with Office 2003 is a better choice than Office 2007

[MB Software Solutions]

Paul Hill wrote:
> On 7/31/07, Rodney Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> After upgrading my work version of Office from 2003 to 2007 I would have
>> to agree.  The ribbon concept actually isn't that bad ONCE YOU GET USED
>> TO IT.  That is my biggest gripe right there.
>> 
>
> I've been using Office 2007 for about 5 months and I have to say I
> really hate the ribbon interface with a passion.  By biggest gripe is
> that you need to use the mouse to do everything!
>
> You can't turn them off and they eat up tons of screen real estate.
>
> Office 2007 breaks just about GUI style guideline ever written,
> including Microsoft's own.  I would go back to 2003 but I've got
> customers to support running 2007.
>
>   
So they forgot about the folks who liked to use a keyboard rather than a 
mouse, eh?  Just remember the address:  "One Microsoft (...not yours...) 
Way."

-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
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Re: NF: Email mess

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Lew wrote:

> ...wouldn't it have to be empty for that to happen?

You ever hear an echo while inside a cave? You're in the cave, so it  
isn't empty.

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Re: Dabo Virtual Machine for Firefox/IE?

[Man-wai Chang]

>   No plans for anything like that, but if some ambitious soul wanted  
> to, we would certainly encourage them.

I think Dabo should aim hight and try to knock out Java, while enabling
RAD like Foxpro. The standalone Dabo should at least be designed to
cater for such a possibility.

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RE: Email mess

[PabloSr]

Lew, I once had the same thing happen to me.  The reason for the duplicate
emails in my case was that I had two rules that placed messages into the
folder where I have the email from ProFox dropped so it is separate from the
regular email I receive.  Just a thought.

PabloSr
===

* -Original Message-
* From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech-
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lew
* Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:04 PM
* To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Subject: NF: Email mess
*
* I need some help figuring out why I'm getting 2 copies of everything
* from this list. I've had many
* subscriptions over the years at different addresses, but the headers
* for the duplicates are identical, byte
* for byte. I assume that the problem is somewhere with my isp, but I
* don't know how to address it since I also
* get duplicates to *some* but not all of my other lists.
* -Lew






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Re: Dabo Virtual Machine for Firefox/IE?

[Ed Leafe]

On Jul 31, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Man-wai Chang wrote:

> I think Dabo should aim hight and try to knock out Java

Java is a language. Python is a language. Dabo is a framework  
written in Python.

> , while enabling
> RAD like Foxpro. The standalone Dabo should at least be designed to
> cater for such a possibility.

I'm glad you have such grandiose dreams. Me, I want to be able to  
create a great tool for building desktop apps in the best language  
out there, Python.

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RE: [NF] Robot-based inventory system for Staples

[Mike Wohlrab]

Sounds nice, but it would be better if the robot brought the item to the worker
[robot] who scanned and placed the item in the bin, then packaged the items into
the boxes, and sent it for delivery.

Computer Technology Solutions 
Mike Wohlrab 
President
585-944-3823 
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www.MikeWohlrab.com
FTP://MikeWohlrab.com


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Behalf Of Michael Madigan
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NF] Robot-based inventory system for Staples

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291534,00.html

This is the robot company's website


http://www.kivasystems.com/demonstration-login.php

Here's a video demo. It requires a quick
registration.
This is really cool



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RE: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

[Eyvind Axelsen]

-Opprinnelig melding-
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Sendt: 31. juli 2007 02:41
Til: ProFox Mailing List
Emne: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!

<   Want to contribute to Dabo, but don't feel you understand the inner
workings of the code that well? Do you speak a language other than
English well enough to translate some of the localizable strings from
English to your language? Well, we need you to help localize Dabo for
as many languages as possible. >

About how many words/phrases are there that need to be translated? I could do a 
Norwegian translation, given that you are interested in that and that the 
amount of work is not totally overwhelming.

Eyvind.



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