[NF] Fwd: Ukrainian Outsourcing Forum 2007 - one of the leading Eastern European IT outsourcing events.

[MB Software Solutions General Account]

But how do they compare to the Indians and Chinese?  

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Subject:Ukrainian Outsourcing Forum 2007 - one of the leading Eastern 
European IT outsourcing events.
Date:   Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:24:07 +0300
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*Dear Colleagues.*

*We invite you to participate at the "Ukrainian Outsourcing Forum `2007 "*

We would like to invite you to participate at the Ukrainian Outsourcing 
Forum `2007 that will be held in Kiev on November 1-2, 2007.
Ukrainian Outsourcing Forum is one of the most important events in 
Eastern Europe dedicated to IT outsourcing. Leading ukrainian, 
belarussian and russian offshore software development companies will  
participate in this forum together with professional associations and 
government representatives working in IT. We are also expecting a large 
number of foreign experts and companies interested in IT business 
development in Ukraine, Belarus, Russia.

In 2006, more than 200 professionals from all over the world 
participated in the Forum. Ukrainian Outsourcing Forum `2006 welcomed 
representatives of Sony, PricewaterhouseCoopers, GE Healthcare, ACD 
Systems International Inc, JSC "Vimpelcom", Infopulse Ukraine, KM 
Soft/Kvazar-Micro Corp., Validio Software, Lohika, EPAM Systems, 
Luxsoft, Murano Software, StarSoft and other widely known companies. 
Overall 148 organizations from the USA, England, Germany, Denmark, 
Israel, the Netherlands, Norway, India, Switzerland, Ukraine, Belarus, 
Russia and other countries participated in the Forum.


*Forums goals and objectives**  *

  o Presentation of IT outsourcing services potential of Ukraine
and other Central & Eastern European countries.
  o Attraction of new customers for outsourcing services.
  o Organization of B2B meetings between the Forum participants.
  o Discussion of issues in development of IT industry and
outsourcing.
  o Presentation of «Ukrainian IT Outsourcing Research 2007»

*
*
*UKRAINIAN OUTSOURCING FORUM  Format*

*Conference*
The conference will be structured by sections with dedicated subjects:

  o Global marketing.
  o Ukrainian regional Software Development centers.
  o Embedded/Firmware programming and Hardware Design.
  o IT professionals market. Search. Training. Education.
  o The best outsourcing solutions.
  o Software quality. QA and testing. Independent testing.
  o BPO.


*Exhibition*
The Forum will offer an exhibition of the leading Eastern European IT 
outsourcing companies.

*Ukrainian IT Matchmaking Event '2007 (B2B meetings)*
Within the Forum there will be held the «Ukrainian IT Matchmaking Event 
'2007» where participants will have an opportunity to meet future 
partners, hold business meetings and present their companies. On-line 
scheduling system allows studying the Forum participants’ profiles in 
advance and organize meetings preliminarily.

*Round-table Discussions*
During the Forum well-known experts will lead the following round-table 
discussions:

  o “UKRAINE, THE IT-FIRST NATION” programme development”. The
subject of this round-table discussion is a programme of
Ukrainian Software Development industry expansion.
  o “Ecosystem of Software Development industry.” This
round-table discussion will deal with the issues of training
the Software industry personnel.


*Recreational activities*
Within the Forum the participants are invited for a sightseeing tour of 
Kiev including visits of the most famous city sights.


*Contacts*
For additional information about the Forum program and participation,
please visit the official Forum web site:
*WWW.OUTSOURCING-FORUM.COM.UA** *
or request it by phone: +38 044 458-17-53
or mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To participate in the Forum, please apply online: 
*http://www.outsourcing-forum.com.ua/en/howtoregister/index.html** *


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Re: Rushmore optimized?

[MB Software Solutions]

Mike yearwood wrote:
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:18:25 -0700
>> From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Rushmore optimized?
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Here's an actual VFP question regarding Rushmore optimization
>>
>> It's my understanding that a filter with "NOT DELETED()" isn't Rushmore
>> optimized.
>>
>> But...if the filter has "DELETED() = .f." -- is that Rushmore optimized?
>> 
>
> If an index has a NOT in it it cannot be used for Rushmore optimization.
>
> If you have an INDEX ON DELETED() TAG whatever, it can certainly be
> used for a FILTER or SQL - both of which are optimizable - SET FILTER
> TO NOT DELETED() or SELECT * WHERE NOT DELETED()
>
>   

Don't forget to take advantage of the BINARY INDEX option added in 
VFP9...well suited for DELETED() iirc.

-- 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 21:19, Michael Madigan wrote:
> And no days off!

> Michael Madigan  wrote:
> > > It's 5 frames per second at 21MP with a max of 56 Jpgs in a row or 12 in 
>>>RAW mode.
> >
> > Hi Michael!
> >
> > It is decided, then. GF has to take on a few more
> > piano students :-)

Hi Michael!

You had been giving her days off! I knew you were really a liberal, in spite 
of all that posturing. Next we know, you will vote for H-bitch.
-- 
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Michael Madigan]

And no days off!


--- Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 20 August 2007 15:07, Michael Madigan
> wrote:
> > It's 5 frames per second at 21MP with a max of 56
> Jpgs
> > in a row or 12 in RAW mode.
> 
> Hi Michael!
> 
> It is decided, then. GF has to take on a few more
> piano students :-)
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete
> http://www.pete-theisen.com/
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 15:13, Michael Madigan wrote:
> My horse racing pix were all taken with a 6MP camera
> with equivelent of a 200mm lens.  Because of cropping,
> they max out at about 8 x 10.  So you really need at
> least 12MP, a 400mm lens, and a higher ISO capability
> to get excellent sports pictures.
>
> www.horseracingpix.com

Hi Michael!

Wow, the whole page just ads. I guess you know what you want to do at least. 
Content? We don't need no stinkin' content!
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 15:07, Derek Kalweit wrote:
> > Contractor that build houses are unable to obtain loans to pursue new
> > projects, and are forced to reduce staff and workers.  Retailers like
> > Wal-Mart experience disappointing sales because of higher unemployment,
> > and the average citizen finds he has less and less money to spend,
> > because he has been cut off from any credit, etc, etc, etc ...
>
> Leland, trickle-down economics only exists when it's a good thing for
> the R's arguments-- not bad...

Hi Derek!

You have that right. They talk a good economy plan but they want all kind of 
rule exceptions for themselves and their friends. The Ds are worse, usually 
their plans just won't work exceptions or no.

-- 
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 15:07, Michael Madigan wrote:
> It's 5 frames per second at 21MP with a max of 56 Jpgs
> in a row or 12 in RAW mode.

Hi Michael!

It is decided, then. GF has to take on a few more piano students :-)

-- 
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Pete
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Re: Listbox shows the first row only. Why?

[Tracy Pearson]

A requery of the listbox control after the array size changes.

Tracy

ESPERIA Software wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   I need your help for a problem I know is common, but I don't
> remember at the moment what the cause is.
> 
> I have a listbox with RowSourceType=5-Array and RowSource is an array
> (this.aItems). I populate the array in a SCAN..ENDSCAN cycle, so I'd expect
> the listbox would fill accordingly. But I only see the first row on the
> list. I *know* the array is filled up, because the debugger shows the
> elements one by one while the scan proceeds. What am I missing? 
> 
> TIA
> 
> Iames
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Funny catfight video

[Michael Madigan]

A good big woman beats a good small woman every time!
LOL


--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I'll put $10.00 on the tall blond.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >
> http://www.break.com/index/pole-dance-cat-fight.html
> >
> > 2008 Presidential Campaign Gear
> > 
> >
> >
> > Thoroughbred Horse Racing Group
> >
>

> >
> >
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Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Ted Roche wrote:
> On 8/20/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> So that begs the question: How the hell does SHE get such a bitchin'
>> device while I'm stuck back in the 1960s?
> 
> Cause she's not OLLD!
> 
> How about an iPhone? Synching family calendars via iCal is supposed to
> be drop-dead easy.

More about AT&T's corporate sub-moronic behavior:

"For their part, AT&T insists that they will cut off anyone they find 
who lives in an area not served by AT&T wireless (which is actually a 
fairly large area), or anyone who uses more than 40% of their iPhone 
time on roaming networks."

http://techdirt.com/articles/20070817/105911.shtml

Whil


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Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences

[Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh]

Whil - -

I went from a Palm PDA to a Windows CE phone/PDA. You are right -- no  
brainer -- CE/Windows Mobile inhales vigorously. I, too am in search  
of calendar nirvana. We have a master calendar in Outlook on the  
Paper Queen's computer. Purge and fill my Outlook from hers. Synch my  
PDA/Phone from that. Inhales *very* vigorously. Plus I have to have  
all of her and the kids' calendar items on my PDA. 

I have been watching the calendar project on Mozilla and Google  
calendars. They show promise. Synchronizing the PDA's seems to be a  
barrier. Also the PQ's desire to have a printable calendar...

I am in empathy with your quest.

Ken


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Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences

[Dave Thayer]

On 8/20/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2) The Treo... Palm OS or Windows OS. OK, that's a no-brainer. But I'm
> wondering about the Palm OS client that runs on the PC. I'm certain I
> saw that they have a Linux client, but I can't find any obvious links. I
> also know they're working on a Linux OS for their mobile devices, but
> right now I'm just interested in syncing up the Treo to a Linux PC.

I've never heard of anything from Palm Inc. for linux, but there are a
lot of 3rd party linux apps for syncing. I like jpilot because it is nice
and light-weight. There is a program called jppy which handles some
of the palm OS5 extensions to the address book and calendar.

I'm pretty sure that the KDE and Gnome PIM apps will sync with a
palmos device, but I'm not a fan of the big desktop environments so
I have no experience with these.

-- 
Dave Thayer
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Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Ted Roche wrote:
> On 8/20/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> So that begs the question: How the hell does SHE get such a bitchin'
>> device while I'm stuck back in the 1960s?
> 
> Cause she's not OLLD!
> 
> How about an iPhone? Synching family calendars via iCal is supposed to
> be drop-dead easy.

For the same reason that I would never get a regular phone in pink, 
or sky blue, or orange, or chocolate.

iPhones are for teenagers who don't write complete sentences or spell 
words with all of their letters. Sorry, but like you said, I'm an old 
fart, and dadgummit, I'm gonna stay that way.

Seriously, I just don't trust AT&T's half of the equation. And I don't 
think an iPhone is an acceptable email device.

Whil




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Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences

[Ted Roche]

On 8/20/07, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How about an iPhone? Synching family calendars via iCal is supposed to
> be drop-dead easy.
>

http://chitoes.vox.com/library/post/dating-the-iphone-in-search-of-calendar-nirvana.html

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
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Re: Rushmore optimized?

[Mike yearwood]

> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:18:25 -0700
> From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Rushmore optimized?
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Here's an actual VFP question regarding Rushmore optimization
>
> It's my understanding that a filter with "NOT DELETED()" isn't Rushmore
> optimized.
>
> But...if the filter has "DELETED() = .f." -- is that Rushmore optimized?

If an index has a NOT in it it cannot be used for Rushmore optimization.

If you have an INDEX ON DELETED() TAG whatever, it can certainly be
used for a FILTER or SQL - both of which are optimizable - SET FILTER
TO NOT DELETED() or SELECT * WHERE NOT DELETED()


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Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences

[Ted Roche]

On 8/20/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So that begs the question: How the hell does SHE get such a bitchin'
> device while I'm stuck back in the 1960s?

Cause she's not OLLD!

How about an iPhone? Synching family calendars via iCal is supposed to
be drop-dead easy.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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[NF] Palm Treo experiences

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Hi gang,

It's come time to possibly part ways with my IBM 3270 portable telephone 
device. Not that _I_ need to, but my daughter needs a new PDA and she's 
due for a new phone as well. Rather than get her two new devices, I'm 
looking at getting her a Treo that will do both in one package.

So that begs the question: How the hell does SHE get such a bitchin' 
device while I'm stuck back in the 1960s?

Seriously, a major goal around HentzenHause is to outfit everyone with a 
mobile that can access a common calendar and email. I'm looking at Treos 
with a data access package that will access something like Google Calendar.

1) Anyone out there doing something like this? Keeping the family (or 
other social unit) together and wired and connected?

2) The Treo... Palm OS or Windows OS. OK, that's a no-brainer. But I'm 
wondering about the Palm OS client that runs on the PC. I'm certain I 
saw that they have a Linux client, but I can't find any obvious links. I 
also know they're working on a Linux OS for their mobile devices, but 
right now I'm just interested in syncing up the Treo to a Linux PC. 
Anyone? Anyone?

Whil


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Listbox shows only the first row. Why?

[Iames Pizzoli]

Hi all,

I need your help for a problem I know is common, but I don't
remember at the moment what the cause is.

I have a listbox with RowSourceType=5-Array and RowSource is an array
(this.aItems). I populate the array in a SCAN..ENDSCAN cycle, so I'd expect
the listbox would fill accordingly. But I only see the first row on the
list. I *know* the array is filled up, because the debugger shows the
elements one by one while the scan proceeds. What am I missing? 

TIA

Iames



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Listbox shows the first row only. Why?

[ESPERIA Software]

Hi all,

I need your help for a problem I know is common, but I don't
remember at the moment what the cause is.

I have a listbox with RowSourceType=5-Array and RowSource is an array
(this.aItems). I populate the array in a SCAN..ENDSCAN cycle, so I'd expect
the listbox would fill accordingly. But I only see the first row on the
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Re: [OT] Funny catfight video

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

I'll put $10.00 on the tall blond.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> http://www.break.com/index/pole-dance-cat-fight.html
>
> 2008 Presidential Campaign Gear
> 
>
>
> Thoroughbred Horse Racing Group
> 
>
>
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Re: [NF] - Zend company experience

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

I have never used Zend; although, I have read many good reviews about 
it.  Just in case someone times the example perl code I provided to 
display error messages in the client's browser, I failed to include the 
first line of code need as follows:

use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser set_message);

sub BEGIN
{  ...

http://perldoc.perl.org/CGI/Carp.html

regards,

LelandJ

Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
> Thanks, Leland -- -
>
> I have one of that guy's books -- I'll look at it again. However, my  
> question was more about working with Zend as a company and using its  
> software for developers.
>
>   Ken
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>
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RE: [NF] MacWorld: Skype says crash followed Windows security update

[Allen]

I must say I had suspisions as it coinsided with reboots here in the
morning. Weird stuff. In fact I assumed to start with that it was the
windows update that was the problem.
Allen 

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Subject: [NF] MacWorld: Skype says crash followed Windows security update

Skype says crash followed Windows security update

Not that the security update caused the downtime, but that having every
Windows machine in the world reboot after the weekly updates screwed up
their allocation algorithms:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08/20/skype/index.php?lsrc=mwrss

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[OT] Funny catfight video

[Michael Madigan]

http://www.break.com/index/pole-dance-cat-fight.html

2008 Presidential Campaign Gear



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[NF] MacWorld: Skype says crash followed Windows security update

[Ted Roche]

Skype says crash followed Windows security update

Not that the security update caused the downtime, but that having
every Windows machine in the world reboot after the weekly updates
screwed up their allocation algorithms:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08/20/skype/index.php?lsrc=mwrss

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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Jean Laeremans]

On 8/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Are there good 3rd pary lenses for the D70?  Or is it only a Nikkor that your 
> investing in?  I have ahd a fair share of them over my life and they are 
> great when you can afford them.  :)


Sure Sigma springs to mind but the main reason i stayed with Nikon was
the fact that i had a fair collection of lenses from my analogue days.

Had to buy a new wide angle lens though as with a digital camera an
'analogue wide angle' isn't one anymore

A+
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Re: [NF] - Zend company experience

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Thanks, Leland -- -

I have one of that guy's books -- I'll look at it again. However, my  
question was more about working with Zend as a company and using its  
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> It's 5 frames per second at 21MP with a max of 56 Jpgs
> in a row or 12 in RAW mode.
> 

Fast, anyway I would hold my wallet (or maybe buy something down the
line), it will come to down to earth prices in a couple of years.
(see further down)

> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> Sports photographers are going to love it,
>> Don't know, didn't check specs. Is it fast enough?
>> (after all storing
>> 21Mp per frame)
>>
>>> and I guess
>>> select Wedding photographers who can afford it.
>> Nah! They'd rather have more battery time, less
>> weight, better
>> performance in low light, better lenses, than any
>> size improvement over
>> 10Mp's.
>>
>>>  I
>>> would say 21MP should be equivelent to 2 1/4
>>> photography at up to 11 x 14.
>> BTW, don't you feel un-patriotic when you send about
>> 7000 dollars abroad
>> to end up in Japanese and Chinese pockets? What
>> about all that ranting
>> in favor of US work? Or does patriotism end whenever
>> you want a new toy ?

Around here we say silence concedes. So I'll take your silence as 'yes,
my patriotism goes as far as my mouth'.

>>
 Got a Cannon EOS 300D (Rebel I think they call it
>> in
 USA). Good camera.
 6MP is more than enough for 'normal' use, that
>> means
 you don't want to
 make big posters or expand 1/10 th of the picture
>> to
 A4. 21Mp seems like
 an overkill except for very narrow field of use.
 Anyway it's good solid Japanese engineering with
 superb Chinese
 manufacturing.

>>>  
>>>
>>


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RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[David Crooks]

On Monday, August 20, 2007 4:14 PM Michael Madigan wrote:

>My horse racing pix were all taken with a 6MP camera with equivelent of
a 200mm lens.  Because of 
>cropping, they max out at about 8 x 10.  So you really need at least
12MP, a 400mm lens, and a higher ISO >capability to get excellent sports
pictures.

A couple links that support that except you can make an 8X10 with 8MP
just fine:
http://www.design215.com/toolbox/megapixels.php
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm 

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RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[stephen . russell]

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Subject: Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR
From: "Jean Laeremans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, August 20, 2007 1:05 pm
To: "ProFox Email List" 

On 8/20/07, Ricardo Ar{aacute}oz <
ricaraoz

@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Got a Cannon EOS 300D (Rebel I think they call it in USA). Good camera.
> 6MP is more than enough for 'normal' use, that means you don't want to
> make big posters or expand 1/10 th of the picture to A4. 21Mp seems like
> an overkill except for very narrow field of use.
> Anyway it's good solid Japanese engineering with superb Chinese
> manufacturing.

6PM is more than enough for an A4. In fact lenses are far more
important. My Nikon D70 makes far better pictures than a 10MP compact.
Ok the lens is as expensive as a few of those compacts.



And the lens will continue on to new bodies as you move along the Nikon line.  
Where the PhDs (Push here Dummy) are all disposable in a short period of time.  

 

Are there good 3rd pary lenses for the D70?  Or is it only a Nikkor that your 
investing in?  I have ahd a fair share of them over my life and they are great 
when you can afford them.  :)

 

  







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RE: Rushmore optimized?

[stephen . russell]

If you have an index that fits your USE of the table(s) then your going to be 
optimized.  

 

This is a trick question because it's a where clause and that takes finesse to 
optimize.  Your index will be chosen by the db, VFP is no different here, for 
use in a Join condition.  If your just filtering a table alone, then the use of 
an index that matches the filter will follow.  But VFP doesn't play Chinese 
menu in a query.  I'll use Index Cust.Custno for the join and index 
Cust.CustState for the group by and Index In.Custno for the join to Invoices 
and In.Status for the filter along with In.InDate for the filter.

 

This can be proved in VFP with three or more joins.


You can fix the problem with compound indexs that combine key and filter, but 
VFP wants it converted to a similar data type or it did long ago when I used 
it.  Can you index on an Int (your key), and a date column without a conversion 
now a days?  




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Subject: Rushmore optimized?
From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, August 20, 2007 11:18 am
To: ProFox Email List 


Here's an actual VFP question regarding Rushmore optimization

It's my understanding that a filter with "NOT DELETED()" isn't Rushmore 
optimized.

But...if the filter has "DELETED() = .f." -- is that Rushmore optimized?

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RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Michael Madigan]

My horse racing pix were all taken with a 6MP camera
with equivelent of a 200mm lens.  Because of cropping,
they max out at about 8 x 10.  So you really need at
least 12MP, a 400mm lens, and a higher ISO capability
to get excellent sports pictures.

www.horseracingpix.com


--- David Crooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday, August 20, 2007 4:00 PM Stephen Russell
> wrote:
> 
> >I've got a Nikon F and a Nikormat EL.
> 
> >For film cameras they are only as good as the lens
> your selecting and
> the design in the viewfinder.
> 
> >That being said digital is still not film for speed
> of capture nor
> manipulation in the capture 
> >standpoint.  Pushing the speed and all is what I
> mean.
> 
> I disagree.  I think with my 30D I can do toe-to-toe
> with any film
> camera.  I had a Canon A-1 back in the 80s and the
> 30D camera does
> everything it did any more. If I shoot in RAW then I
> can manipulate the
> image like it was a negative without being in a
> darkroom.
> 
> David L. Crooks
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Derek Kalweit]

> Contractor that build houses are unable to obtain loans to pursue new
> projects, and are forced to reduce staff and workers.  Retailers like
> Wal-Mart experience disappointing sales because of higher unemployment,
> and the average citizen finds he has less and less money to spend,
> because he has been cut off from any credit, etc, etc, etc ...

Leland, trickle-down economics only exists when it's a good thing for
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Michael Madigan]

It's 5 frames per second at 21MP with a max of 56 Jpgs
in a row or 12 in RAW mode.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Sports photographers are going to love it,
> 
> Don't know, didn't check specs. Is it fast enough?
> (after all storing
> 21Mp per frame)
> 
> > and I guess
> > select Wedding photographers who can afford it.
> 
> Nah! They'd rather have more battery time, less
> weight, better
> performance in low light, better lenses, than any
> size improvement over
> 10Mp's.
> 
> >  I
> > would say 21MP should be equivelent to 2 1/4
> > photography at up to 11 x 14.
> 
> BTW, don't you feel un-patriotic when you send about
> 7000 dollars abroad
> to end up in Japanese and Chinese pockets? What
> about all that ranting
> in favor of US work? Or does patriotism end whenever
> you want a new toy ?
> 
> > 
> >> Got a Cannon EOS 300D (Rebel I think they call it
> in
> >> USA). Good camera.
> >> 6MP is more than enough for 'normal' use, that
> means
> >> you don't want to
> >> make big posters or expand 1/10 th of the picture
> to
> >> A4. 21Mp seems like
> >> an overkill except for very narrow field of use.
> >> Anyway it's good solid Japanese engineering with
> >> superb Chinese
> >> manufacturing.
> >>
> >  
> > 
> 
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RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[David Crooks]

On Monday, August 20, 2007 4:00 PM Stephen Russell wrote:

>I've got a Nikon F and a Nikormat EL.

>For film cameras they are only as good as the lens your selecting and
the design in the viewfinder.

>That being said digital is still not film for speed of capture nor
manipulation in the capture 
>standpoint.  Pushing the speed and all is what I mean.

I disagree.  I think with my 30D I can do toe-to-toe with any film
camera.  I had a Canon A-1 back in the 80s and the 30D camera does
everything it did any more. If I shoot in RAW then I can manipulate the
image like it was a negative without being in a darkroom.

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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Jean Laeremans]

On 8/20/07, Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Got a Cannon EOS 300D (Rebel I think they call it in USA). Good camera.
> 6MP is more than enough for 'normal' use, that means you don't want to
> make big posters or expand 1/10 th of the picture to A4. 21Mp seems like
> an overkill except for very narrow field of use.
> Anyway it's good solid Japanese engineering with superb Chinese
> manufacturing.

6PM is more than enough for an A4. In fact lenses are far more
important. My Nikon D70 makes far better pictures than a 10MP compact.
Ok the lens  is as expensive as a few of those compacts.

A+
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Yep, I'm hopeless. I have an old pair of eyes, and I swear the letters 
in this email writer keep getting smaller and smaller all the time.  

Regards,

LelandJ

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Monday 20 August 2007 13:49, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> It is hopeless.
>
> Get yourself a copy of Word 6 or so, any version with "grammatic" grammar 
> checking. Do ALL your emails in that FIRST, then copy-paste into the email 
> program. Your "corrected" copy has two errors in it that I can see right off.
>
>   
>> Whoops, that last sentence should read:
>>
>> 
>
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RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[stephen . russell]

I've got a Nikon F and a Nikormat EL.

 

For film cameras they are only as good as the lens your selecting and the 
design in the viewfinder.

 

That being said digital is still not film for speed of capture nor manipulation 
in the capture standpoint.  Pushing the speed and all is what I mean.

 


 




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Subject: RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR
From: Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, August 20, 2007 12:22 pm
To: ProFox Email List 

You should sell the 30d on EBAY before it becomes
worthless.

I'm going to be putting up my Mamiya C330s TLRs on
eBay before they become totally worthless, along with
my Nikon 8008 and Nikon 4004.



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dcrooks

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> wrote:

> On Monday, August 20, 2007 3:11 PM Michael Madigan
> wrote:
> 
> >I'll have a hard time justifing a $12,000 purchase.
> 
> >My 6MP Camera just isn't cutting it anymore,
> though. 
> >I'm looking at buying a 10MP camera.
> 
> >The other problem with my camera is that it will
> only take 3MP photos
> at 800 ISO, so taking a horse race >at 6:00 PM on a
> November afternoon
> is really tough.
> 
> I agree about justifying $12K for a camera is hard
> to do unless a
> publication will buy it for you. I saw
>
(
http://www.usa.canon.com/html/templatedata/pressrelease/20070820_40d.ht

> ml) that they are coming out with the 40D with list
> for $1,200 for the
> body and it is 10.1MP. I have the 30D and really
> like it. Maybe, I will
> save up my pennies for a 40D and use the 30D as
> backup.
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

You're missing the important point.  It doesn't matter which element 
trigger the problem, or whether the trigger was respected or a 
sleazebag.  What matters is that the problem exist and can spread 
throughout the economy to the point it affect everybody.

A segment of the mortgage leading business offer easy money with no 
credit checks.  Eventually this segment begins to experience substantial 
losses from customers who default on the loans.  Lending institutions of 
every variety take notice and begin tightening up their procedures and 
requirements to obtain loans.  Money stops flowing freely within the 
economy, and it becomes very difficult for anyone to obtain a loan.

Contractor that build houses are unable to obtain loans to pursue new 
projects, and are forced to reduce staff and workers.  Retailers like 
Wal-Mart experience disappointing sales because of higher unemployment, 
and the average citizen finds he has less and less money to spend, 
because he has been cut off from any credit, etc, etc, etc ...

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> The sub-prime mortgage lender is equivalent to a
> used-car salesman.  People get hit with ridiculous
> fees.  I don't care how many of these sleazebags go
> out of business.
>
> However, the small guy who is getting killed with
> variable rate mortgages, he doesn't deserve this.
>
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/17/AR2007081700618.html
>   
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/32pdoj
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>> The Fed overtightened by raising interest rates. 
>>> These morons are trying to curb non-existent
>>> inflation.
>>>
>>> They should have dropped interest rates a long
>>>   
>> time
>> 
>>> ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
>>>   
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 The stock market is very jittery right now to the
 point the Federal 
 Reserve had to lower interest rates in an attempt
 
>> to
>> 
 manipulate a very 
 tight money situation within the second rate
 mortgage segment that 
 threatened to slow down the economy or even close
 some mortgage 
 companies.  It is becoming increasing hard to
 
>> find a
>> 
 lending institution 
 will to make a loan.  Some people feel the
 
>> economy
>> 
 is not nearly as 
 roses as you see it, and manipulation a free
 
>> market
>> 
 economy will on go 
 so far.

 Regards,

 LelandJ

 Michael Madigan wrote:
 
 
> Yes the economy sucks.
>
> Record low unemployment
> Record high stock market
> Record high government revenues 
>
> Really sucks bad.
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
>   
>   
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
 
> wrote:
>
>   
>   
>   
>> Another four year of King George, or a King
>> 
>> 
 George
 
 
>> clone like Fred, and 
>> you're right, there won't be much left of the
>> 
>> 
 U.S.
 
 
>> The U.S. has really been run into the ground
>> 
>> the
>> 
>> last last six or seven 
>> years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit
>> spending, reckless 
>> borrowing  by the U.S. from other countries
>> 
>> like
>> 
>> China leading to an 
>> ever mounting debt, secrecy in government,
>> propaganda and information, 
>> news releases contain misinformation to mislead
>> congress and the 
>> American people, not to mention what has been
>> 
>> 
 done
 
 
>> to the U.S. 
>> Constitution and Justice Department.  The U.S.
>> foreign policy is a 
>> wreck, the dollar has been greatly weakened
>> 
>> 
 against
 
 
>> most other 
>> currencies and the stock market is jittery
>> 
>> 
 because
 
 
>> cut rate mortgage 
>> companies have been lending money like there is
>> 
>> 
 no
 
 
>> tomorrow.  Now 
>> leadership within the military is advising that
>> 
>> a
>> 
>> military draft should 
>> be considered.
>>
>> Are you really sure you want another
>> 
>> 
 Administration
 
 
>> that would follow 
>> along these lines
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> But there won't be a country left so it
>>> 

RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[David Crooks]

I think the price is be up for a while for the 30D as the 20D prices
have not dropped a whole lot.  That might change with the version.  The
40D does look like a worthy upgrade.

http://dpreview.com/
 
Monday, 20 August 2007

Canon EOS 40D, previewed
As anticipated Canon has today announced the successor to the hugely
popular EOS 30D digital SLR. Enter the EOS 40D, headline improvements
are a more robust build with weather-proofing, ten megapixel CMOS
sensor, DIGIC III and 1D style menus, 6.5 fps continuous shooting, three
custom user modes on mode dial, 3.0" LCD monitor, Live View with
optional mirror-drop auto-focus, larger brighter viewfinder with
interchangeable focusing screens, much shorter viewfinder blackout and a
quieter mirror mechanism, a all new AF system with all nine points
cross-type with F5.6 or faster lens and a new optional combo vertical /
WiFi grip. UPDATED: Detailed preview posted. (04:10 GMT)
 
Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III, previewed
 Canon has today tipped digital SLR resolution over the twenty megapixel
barrier with the new EOS-1Ds Mark III. The much anticipated Mark III
version of the full-frame EOS-1Ds delivers medium-format threatening
resolution; 5616 x 3744 (21.1 million) pixels to be precise, in a
portable and robust five frames per second Canon EOS body. From a built,
function and usability point of view the EOS-1Ds Mark III is identical
to the EOS-1D Mark III apart from the full frame (36 x 24 mm) sensor,
(naturally) larger viewfinder and UDMA support (up to 45 MB/sec) for
Compact Flash cards. At full tilt (at five frames per second) the Mark
III is processing an mighty impressive 185 MB of data every second.
UPDATED: Detailed preview posted. (04:10 GMT) 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Subject: RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

You should sell the 30d on EBAY before it becomes worthless.

I'm going to be putting up my Mamiya C330s TLRs on eBay before they
become totally worthless, along with my Nikon 8008 and Nikon 4004.



--- David Crooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday, August 20, 2007 3:11 PM Michael Madigan
> wrote:
> 
> >I'll have a hard time justifing a $12,000 purchase.
> 
> >My 6MP Camera just isn't cutting it anymore,
> though. 
> >I'm looking at buying a 10MP camera.
> 
> >The other problem with my camera is that it will
> only take 3MP photos
> at 800 ISO, so taking a horse race >at 6:00 PM on a November afternoon

> is really tough.
> 
> I agree about justifying $12K for a camera is hard to do unless a 
> publication will buy it for you.  I saw
>
(http://www.usa.canon.com/html/templatedata/pressrelease/20070820_40d.ht
> ml) that they are coming out with the 40D with list for $1,200 for the

> body and it is 10.1MP.  I have the 30D and really like it. Maybe, I 
> will save up my pennies for a 40D and use the 30D as backup.
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 13:49, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

Hi Leland!

It is hopeless.

Get yourself a copy of Word 6 or so, any version with "grammatic" grammar 
checking. Do ALL your emails in that FIRST, then copy-paste into the email 
program. Your "corrected" copy has two errors in it that I can see right off.

> Whoops, that last sentence should read:
>

-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://www.pete-theisen.com/


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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Sports photographers are going to love it,

Don't know, didn't check specs. Is it fast enough? (after all storing
21Mp per frame)

> and I guess
> select Wedding photographers who can afford it.

Nah! They'd rather have more battery time, less weight, better
performance in low light, better lenses, than any size improvement over
10Mp's.

>  I
> would say 21MP should be equivelent to 2 1/4
> photography at up to 11 x 14.

BTW, don't you feel un-patriotic when you send about 7000 dollars abroad
to end up in Japanese and Chinese pockets? What about all that ranting
in favor of US work? Or does patriotism end whenever you want a new toy ?

> 
>> Got a Cannon EOS 300D (Rebel I think they call it in
>> USA). Good camera.
>> 6MP is more than enough for 'normal' use, that means
>> you don't want to
>> make big posters or expand 1/10 th of the picture to
>> A4. 21Mp seems like
>> an overkill except for very narrow field of use.
>> Anyway it's good solid Japanese engineering with
>> superb Chinese
>> manufacturing.
>>
>  
> 


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RE: Rushmore optimized?

[Christof Wollenhaupt]

Hi Bill,

> It's my understanding that a filter with "NOT DELETED()" isn't Rushmore
optimized.

VFP 9 uses an index on "NOT DELETED()" as well as an index on "DELETED()"
for optimization, no matter whether your filter condition is DELETED(), NOT
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Hence, a filter on NOT DELETED() will be optimized when you have an index on
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Michael Madigan]

The sub-prime mortgage lender is equivalent to a
used-car salesman.  People get hit with ridiculous
fees.  I don't care how many of these sleazebags go
out of business.

However, the small guy who is getting killed with
variable rate mortgages, he doesn't deserve this.



--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/17/AR2007081700618.html
> 
> or
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/32pdoj
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > The Fed overtightened by raising interest rates. 
> > These morons are trying to curb non-existent
> > inflation.
> >
> > They should have dropped interest rates a long
> time
> > ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> The stock market is very jittery right now to the
> >> point the Federal 
> >> Reserve had to lower interest rates in an attempt
> to
> >> manipulate a very 
> >> tight money situation within the second rate
> >> mortgage segment that 
> >> threatened to slow down the economy or even close
> >> some mortgage 
> >> companies.  It is becoming increasing hard to
> find a
> >> lending institution 
> >> will to make a loan.  Some people feel the
> economy
> >> is not nearly as 
> >> roses as you see it, and manipulation a free
> market
> >> economy will on go 
> >> so far.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> LelandJ
> >>
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Yes the economy sucks.
> >>>
> >>> Record low unemployment
> >>> Record high stock market
> >>> Record high government revenues 
> >>>
> >>> Really sucks bad.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> >>>   
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  Another four year of King George, or a King
>  
> >> George
> >> 
>  clone like Fred, and 
>  you're right, there won't be much left of the
>  
> >> U.S.
> >> 
>  The U.S. has really been run into the ground
> the
>  last last six or seven 
>  years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit
>  spending, reckless 
>  borrowing  by the U.S. from other countries
> like
>  China leading to an 
>  ever mounting debt, secrecy in government,
>  propaganda and information, 
>  news releases contain misinformation to mislead
>  congress and the 
>  American people, not to mention what has been
>  
> >> done
> >> 
>  to the U.S. 
>  Constitution and Justice Department.  The U.S.
>  foreign policy is a 
>  wreck, the dollar has been greatly weakened
>  
> >> against
> >> 
>  most other 
>  currencies and the stock market is jittery
>  
> >> because
> >> 
>  cut rate mortgage 
>  companies have been lending money like there is
>  
> >> no
> >> 
>  tomorrow.  Now 
>  leadership within the military is advising that
> a
>  military draft should 
>  be considered.
> 
>  Are you really sure you want another
>  
> >> Administration
> >> 
>  that would follow 
>  along these lines
> 
>  Regards,
> 
>  LelandJ
> 
>  Michael Madigan wrote:
>  
>  
> > But there won't be a country left so it
> doesn't
> > matter.
> >
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >> Once the Democrats are put back at the helm
> of
> >> government, the value to 
> >> the dollar should become stronger against
> other
> >> currencies making the 
> >> cost of foreign imports cheaper.  \
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >   
> >   
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Michael Madigan]

Sports photographers are going to love it, and I guess
select Wedding photographers who can afford it.  I
would say 21MP should be equivelent to 2 1/4
photography at up to 11 x 14.

> Got a Cannon EOS 300D (Rebel I think they call it in
> USA). Good camera.
> 6MP is more than enough for 'normal' use, that means
> you don't want to
> make big posters or expand 1/10 th of the picture to
> A4. 21Mp seems like
> an overkill except for very narrow field of use.
> Anyway it's good solid Japanese engineering with
> superb Chinese
> manufacturing.
> 
 


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RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Michael Madigan]

You should sell the 30d on EBAY before it becomes
worthless.

I'm going to be putting up my Mamiya C330s TLRs on
eBay before they become totally worthless, along with
my Nikon 8008 and Nikon 4004.



--- David Crooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday, August 20, 2007 3:11 PM Michael Madigan
> wrote:
> 
> >I'll have a hard time justifing a $12,000 purchase.
> 
> >My 6MP Camera just isn't cutting it anymore,
> though. 
> >I'm looking at buying a 10MP camera.
> 
> >The other problem with my camera is that it will
> only take 3MP photos
> at 800 ISO, so taking a horse race >at 6:00 PM on a
> November afternoon
> is really tough.
> 
> I agree about justifying $12K for a camera is hard
> to do unless a
> publication will buy it for you.  I saw
>
(http://www.usa.canon.com/html/templatedata/pressrelease/20070820_40d.ht
> ml) that they are coming out with the 40D with list
> for $1,200 for the
> body and it is 10.1MP.  I have the 30D and really
> like it. Maybe, I will
> save up my pennies for a 40D and use the 30D as
> backup.
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Monday 20 August 2007 13:44, Michael Madigan wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael!
> 
> I still have my old Canon SLR system from the late '60s. Back in the day we 
> used two bodies, so we could load two kinds of film. The lenses would fit 
> either body. I shot mostly weddings, for that I used a trio of 2 1/4" square 
> Rollei twin lens cameras.
> 
> You have been working a lot of overtime, you could go ahead and get one of 
> these if it appeals to you. Take t-shirt pictures and write it off.
> 
>> Looks like it's going to retail for about $12,000
>> American.
>>
>>
>> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=10467

Got a Cannon EOS 300D (Rebel I think they call it in USA). Good camera.
6MP is more than enough for 'normal' use, that means you don't want to
make big posters or expand 1/10 th of the picture to A4. 21Mp seems like
an overkill except for very narrow field of use.
Anyway it's good solid Japanese engineering with superb Chinese
manufacturing.



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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/17/AR2007081700618.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/32pdoj

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> The Fed overtightened by raising interest rates. 
> These morons are trying to curb non-existent
> inflation.
>
> They should have dropped interest rates a long time
> ago.
>
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> The stock market is very jittery right now to the
>> point the Federal 
>> Reserve had to lower interest rates in an attempt to
>> manipulate a very 
>> tight money situation within the second rate
>> mortgage segment that 
>> threatened to slow down the economy or even close
>> some mortgage 
>> companies.  It is becoming increasing hard to find a
>> lending institution 
>> will to make a loan.  Some people feel the economy
>> is not nearly as 
>> roses as you see it, and manipulation a free market
>> economy will on go 
>> so far.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes the economy sucks.
>>>
>>> Record low unemployment
>>> Record high stock market
>>> Record high government revenues 
>>>
>>> Really sucks bad.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
>>>   
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 Another four year of King George, or a King
 
>> George
>> 
 clone like Fred, and 
 you're right, there won't be much left of the
 
>> U.S.
>> 
 The U.S. has really been run into the ground the
 last last six or seven 
 years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit
 spending, reckless 
 borrowing  by the U.S. from other countries like
 China leading to an 
 ever mounting debt, secrecy in government,
 propaganda and information, 
 news releases contain misinformation to mislead
 congress and the 
 American people, not to mention what has been
 
>> done
>> 
 to the U.S. 
 Constitution and Justice Department.  The U.S.
 foreign policy is a 
 wreck, the dollar has been greatly weakened
 
>> against
>> 
 most other 
 currencies and the stock market is jittery
 
>> because
>> 
 cut rate mortgage 
 companies have been lending money like there is
 
>> no
>> 
 tomorrow.  Now 
 leadership within the military is advising that a
 military draft should 
 be considered.

 Are you really sure you want another
 
>> Administration
>> 
 that would follow 
 along these lines

 Regards,

 LelandJ

 Michael Madigan wrote:
 
 
> But there won't be a country left so it doesn't
> matter.
>
>   
>   
>   
>> Once the Democrats are put back at the helm of
>> government, the value to 
>> the dollar should become stronger against other
>> currencies making the 
>> cost of foreign imports cheaper.  \
>> 
>> 
>> 
>   
>   
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RE: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[David Crooks]

On Monday, August 20, 2007 3:11 PM Michael Madigan wrote:

>I'll have a hard time justifing a $12,000 purchase. 
>My 6MP Camera just isn't cutting it anymore, though. 
>I'm looking at buying a 10MP camera.

>The other problem with my camera is that it will only take 3MP photos
at 800 ISO, so taking a horse race >at 6:00 PM on a November afternoon
is really tough.

I agree about justifying $12K for a camera is hard to do unless a
publication will buy it for you.  I saw
(http://www.usa.canon.com/html/templatedata/pressrelease/20070820_40d.ht
ml) that they are coming out with the 40D with list for $1,200 for the
body and it is 10.1MP.  I have the 30D and really like it. Maybe, I will
save up my pennies for a 40D and use the 30D as backup.



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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Whoops, that last sentence should read:

#---

It is becoming increasing hard to find a lending institution 
will to make a loan.  Some people feel the economy is not nearly as 
roses as you see it, and manipulating a free market economy will only go 
so far.

#-

Regards,

LelandJ



Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> The stock market is very jittery right now to the point the Federal 
> Reserve had to lower interest rates in an attempt to manipulate a very 
> tight money situation within the second rate mortgage segment that 
> threatened to slow down the economy or even close some mortgage 
> companies.  It is becoming increasing hard to find a lending institution 
> will to make a loan.  Some people feel the economy is not nearly as 
> roses as you see it, and manipulation a free market economy will on go 
> so far.
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>   
>> Yes the economy sucks.
>>
>> Record low unemployment
>> Record high stock market
>> Record high government revenues 
>>
>> Really sucks bad.
>>
>>
>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Another four year of King George, or a King George
>>> clone like Fred, and 
>>> you're right, there won't be much left of the U.S.
>>>
>>> The U.S. has really been run into the ground the
>>> last last six or seven 
>>> years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit
>>> spending, reckless 
>>> borrowing  by the U.S. from other countries like
>>> China leading to an 
>>> ever mounting debt, secrecy in government,
>>> propaganda and information, 
>>> news releases contain misinformation to mislead
>>> congress and the 
>>> American people, not to mention what has been done
>>> to the U.S. 
>>> Constitution and Justice Department.  The U.S.
>>> foreign policy is a 
>>> wreck, the dollar has been greatly weakened against
>>> most other 
>>> currencies and the stock market is jittery because
>>> cut rate mortgage 
>>> companies have been lending money like there is no
>>> tomorrow.  Now 
>>> leadership within the military is advising that a
>>> military draft should 
>>> be considered.
>>>
>>> Are you really sure you want another Administration
>>> that would follow 
>>> along these lines
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> LelandJ
>>>
>>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 But there won't be a country left so it doesn't
 matter.

   
   
 
> Once the Democrats are put back at the helm of
> government, the value to 
> the dollar should become stronger against other
> currencies making the 
> cost of foreign imports cheaper.  \
> 
> 
>   
   
 
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Michael Madigan]

The Fed overtightened by raising interest rates. 
These morons are trying to curb non-existent
inflation.

They should have dropped interest rates a long time
ago.



--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> The stock market is very jittery right now to the
> point the Federal 
> Reserve had to lower interest rates in an attempt to
> manipulate a very 
> tight money situation within the second rate
> mortgage segment that 
> threatened to slow down the economy or even close
> some mortgage 
> companies.  It is becoming increasing hard to find a
> lending institution 
> will to make a loan.  Some people feel the economy
> is not nearly as 
> roses as you see it, and manipulation a free market
> economy will on go 
> so far.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Yes the economy sucks.
> >
> > Record low unemployment
> > Record high stock market
> > Record high government revenues 
> >
> > Really sucks bad.
> >
> >
> > --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Another four year of King George, or a King
> George
> >> clone like Fred, and 
> >> you're right, there won't be much left of the
> U.S.
> >>
> >> The U.S. has really been run into the ground the
> >> last last six or seven 
> >> years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit
> >> spending, reckless 
> >> borrowing  by the U.S. from other countries like
> >> China leading to an 
> >> ever mounting debt, secrecy in government,
> >> propaganda and information, 
> >> news releases contain misinformation to mislead
> >> congress and the 
> >> American people, not to mention what has been
> done
> >> to the U.S. 
> >> Constitution and Justice Department.  The U.S.
> >> foreign policy is a 
> >> wreck, the dollar has been greatly weakened
> against
> >> most other 
> >> currencies and the stock market is jittery
> because
> >> cut rate mortgage 
> >> companies have been lending money like there is
> no
> >> tomorrow.  Now 
> >> leadership within the military is advising that a
> >> military draft should 
> >> be considered.
> >>
> >> Are you really sure you want another
> Administration
> >> that would follow 
> >> along these lines
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> LelandJ
> >>
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >> 
> >>> But there won't be a country left so it doesn't
> >>> matter.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  Once the Democrats are put back at the helm of
>  government, the value to 
>  the dollar should become stronger against other
>  currencies making the 
>  cost of foreign imports cheaper.  \
>  
>  
> >>>   
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

The stock market is very jittery right now to the point the Federal 
Reserve had to lower interest rates in an attempt to manipulate a very 
tight money situation within the second rate mortgage segment that 
threatened to slow down the economy or even close some mortgage 
companies.  It is becoming increasing hard to find a lending institution 
will to make a loan.  Some people feel the economy is not nearly as 
roses as you see it, and manipulation a free market economy will on go 
so far.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Yes the economy sucks.
>
> Record low unemployment
> Record high stock market
> Record high government revenues 
>
> Really sucks bad.
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Another four year of King George, or a King George
>> clone like Fred, and 
>> you're right, there won't be much left of the U.S.
>>
>> The U.S. has really been run into the ground the
>> last last six or seven 
>> years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit
>> spending, reckless 
>> borrowing  by the U.S. from other countries like
>> China leading to an 
>> ever mounting debt, secrecy in government,
>> propaganda and information, 
>> news releases contain misinformation to mislead
>> congress and the 
>> American people, not to mention what has been done
>> to the U.S. 
>> Constitution and Justice Department.  The U.S.
>> foreign policy is a 
>> wreck, the dollar has been greatly weakened against
>> most other 
>> currencies and the stock market is jittery because
>> cut rate mortgage 
>> companies have been lending money like there is no
>> tomorrow.  Now 
>> leadership within the military is advising that a
>> military draft should 
>> be considered.
>>
>> Are you really sure you want another Administration
>> that would follow 
>> along these lines
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>> But there won't be a country left so it doesn't
>>> matter.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 Once the Democrats are put back at the helm of
 government, the value to 
 the dollar should become stronger against other
 currencies making the 
 cost of foreign imports cheaper.  \
 
 
>>>   
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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Michael Madigan]

I'll have a hard time justifing a $12,000 purchase. 
My 6MP Camera just isn't cutting it anymore, though. 
I'm looking at buying a 10MP camera.

The other problem with my camera is that it will only
take 3MP photos at 800 ISO, so taking a horse race at
6:00 PM on a November afternoon is really tough.



--- Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 20 August 2007 13:44, Michael Madigan
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael!
> 
> I still have my old Canon SLR system from the late
> '60s. Back in the day we 
> used two bodies, so we could load two kinds of film.
> The lenses would fit 
> either body. I shot mostly weddings, for that I used
> a trio of 2 1/4" square 
> Rollei twin lens cameras.
> 
> You have been working a lot of overtime, you could
> go ahead and get one of 
> these if it appeals to you. Take t-shirt pictures
> and write it off.
> 
> > Looks like it's going to retail for about $12,000
> > American.
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=10467
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete
> http://www.pete-theisen.com/
> 
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Re: Rushmore optimized?

[Ted Roche]

On 8/20/07, Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's an actual VFP question regarding Rushmore optimization
>
> It's my understanding that a filter with "NOT DELETED()" isn't Rushmore
> optimized.
>
> But...if the filter has "DELETED() = .f." -- is that Rushmore optimized?

Disclaimer: legacy Rushmore knowledge; Calvin keeps messing with it...

Last I checked, filters are NEVER optimizable.

However, "AND DELETED()=.f." can be optimizable if you have a
non-filtered matching expression and another index on DELETED()


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Re: [OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 13:44, Michael Madigan wrote:

Hi Michael!

I still have my old Canon SLR system from the late '60s. Back in the day we 
used two bodies, so we could load two kinds of film. The lenses would fit 
either body. I shot mostly weddings, for that I used a trio of 2 1/4" square 
Rollei twin lens cameras.

You have been working a lot of overtime, you could go ahead and get one of 
these if it appeals to you. Take t-shirt pictures and write it off.

> Looks like it's going to retail for about $12,000
> American.
>
>
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=10467
-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://www.pete-theisen.com/


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Re: Rushmore optimized?

[MB Software Solutions]

Bill Anderson wrote:
> Here's an actual VFP question regarding Rushmore optimization
>
> It's my understanding that a filter with "NOT DELETED()" isn't Rushmore 
> optimized.
>
> But...if the filter has "DELETED() = .f." -- is that Rushmore optimized?
>
> Bill
>
>
>   

I had learned long ago somewhere that using "NOT" pretty much killed the 
optimizationbut I cannot recall the source of that info.

-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Michael Madigan]

Yes the economy sucks.

Record low unemployment
Record high stock market
Record high government revenues 

Really sucks bad.


--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Another four year of King George, or a King George
> clone like Fred, and 
> you're right, there won't be much left of the U.S.
> 
> The U.S. has really been run into the ground the
> last last six or seven 
> years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit
> spending, reckless 
> borrowing  by the U.S. from other countries like
> China leading to an 
> ever mounting debt, secrecy in government,
> propaganda and information, 
> news releases contain misinformation to mislead
> congress and the 
> American people, not to mention what has been done
> to the U.S. 
> Constitution and Justice Department.  The U.S.
> foreign policy is a 
> wreck, the dollar has been greatly weakened against
> most other 
> currencies and the stock market is jittery because
> cut rate mortgage 
> companies have been lending money like there is no
> tomorrow.  Now 
> leadership within the military is advising that a
> military draft should 
> be considered.
> 
> Are you really sure you want another Administration
> that would follow 
> along these lines
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > But there won't be a country left so it doesn't
> > matter.
> >
> >   
> >> Once the Democrats are put back at the helm of
> >> government, the value to 
> >> the dollar should become stronger against other
> >> currencies making the 
> >> cost of foreign imports cheaper.  \
> >> 
> >
> >
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Re: [NF] - Zend company experience

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

You may need to include php code in your script to get the error message 
to display in the client browser.  This is the code I use in perl to 
handle errors.  It is included in my main class that is called by each 
script.  See the link at the bottom of the page of something similar for 
php:

#

sub BEGIN
{
  sub handle_errors
  {
my $msg = shift;

print qq
~
  Content-type: text/html\n\n



Software - Master (TM) Shopping Cart\n









Error









  Oh gosh, got an error:
  $msg
  

Please notify
  Leland 
Jackson, CPA
  and let him know.
















~;
  }
  set_message( \&handle_errors );
}

http://www.zend.com/zend/spotlight/error.php

#---

Regards,

LelandJ

Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
> Hey, folks -- - -
>
> Back from a great 2-week vacation -- I sit down at my computer ready  
> to get all programmy -- I find 2-week-old frustrations jumping right  
> back into the pit of my stomach.
>
> I have been on a quest to find a PHP development tool. I have all of  
> your recommendations safely tucked away for further consideration.
>
> Wondering what, if any, experience y'all have had with Zend, the  
> organization?
>
> Background: I tried the evaluation version of Zend Studio -- I really  
> like the UI of the product, generally -- autofilling keywords and  
> commands -- being able to create your own language expansions -- and  
> especially having allegedly-integrated debugging. What I don't like  
> about it is M$-like stuff -- having to install all kinds of stuff to  
> do PHP "their way," creating a lot of overhead, and feeling like to  
> do it right I have to buy this and that and the other thing from  
> them. Starts feeling like I am again on the "their way or the  
> highway" track we have all come to love.
>
> The biggest thing I'm wondering about is (what feels like) their  
> utter incompetence or indifference. I could not get (and mostly still  
> can't get) debugging working. I asked about debugging (carefully  
> including details of OS, versions, exact error messages and all  
> relevant details) to both their their technical support and on the  
> user forum. In the forum, I got nothing but a single "fan boy"  
> response (sounded like a press release) and it didn't address the  
> specifics of my question at all. Their technical support answers took  
> 3-5 days, even though I marked the question "high-priority," because  
> it was actually inhibiting me from getting anything done at all. The  
> responses were macro-generated, again not addressing any of my  
> specific questions. Mostly they asked for "more information," even  
> when I had *already supplied* that very information they requested.  
> IOW, it seems like they wanted to give pat answers, and really didn't  
> read the question at all.
>
> So, anybody have experience with Zend, the organization, that you  
> would share?
>
> Ken
>
>
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 13:14, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Another four year of King George, or a King George clone like Fred, and
> you're right, there won't be much left of the U.S.
>
> The U.S. has really been run into the ground the last last six or seven
> years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit spending

Hi Leland!

Ds only criticize the administration when the Rs control it. How predictable 
are you?
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[OT] Canon introduces 21Mp Digital SLR

[Michael Madigan]

Looks like it's going to retail for about $12,000
American.


http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=10467


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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Another four year of King George, or a King George clone like Fred, and 
you're right, there won't be much left of the U.S.

The U.S. has really been run into the ground the last last six or seven 
years with fiscal irresponsibility, deficit spending, reckless 
borrowing  by the U.S. from other countries like China leading to an 
ever mounting debt, secrecy in government, propaganda and information, 
news releases contain misinformation to mislead congress and the 
American people, not to mention what has been done to the U.S. 
Constitution and Justice Department.  The U.S. foreign policy is a 
wreck, the dollar has been greatly weakened against most other 
currencies and the stock market is jittery because cut rate mortgage 
companies have been lending money like there is no tomorrow.  Now 
leadership within the military is advising that a military draft should 
be considered.

Are you really sure you want another Administration that would follow 
along these lines

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> But there won't be a country left so it doesn't
> matter.
>
>   
>> Once the Democrats are put back at the helm of
>> government, the value to 
>> the dollar should become stronger against other
>> currencies making the 
>> cost of foreign imports cheaper.  \
>> 
>
>
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RE: Foxpro report needs two detail bands for two seperate tables.

[Eurico Chagas Filho]

Sure Peter, 
it's [EMAIL PROTECTED]

E.

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Rushmore optimized?

[Bill Anderson]

Here's an actual VFP question regarding Rushmore optimization

It's my understanding that a filter with "NOT DELETED()" isn't Rushmore 
optimized.

But...if the filter has "DELETED() = .f." -- is that Rushmore optimized?

Bill



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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Michael Madigan]

But there won't be a country left so it doesn't
matter.

> Once the Democrats are put back at the helm of
> government, the value to 
> the dollar should become stronger against other
> currencies making the 
> cost of foreign imports cheaper.  \


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[NF] - Zend company experience

[Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh]

Hey, folks -- - -

Back from a great 2-week vacation -- I sit down at my computer ready  
to get all programmy -- I find 2-week-old frustrations jumping right  
back into the pit of my stomach.

I have been on a quest to find a PHP development tool. I have all of  
your recommendations safely tucked away for further consideration.

Wondering what, if any, experience y'all have had with Zend, the  
organization?

Background: I tried the evaluation version of Zend Studio -- I really  
like the UI of the product, generally -- autofilling keywords and  
commands -- being able to create your own language expansions -- and  
especially having allegedly-integrated debugging. What I don't like  
about it is M$-like stuff -- having to install all kinds of stuff to  
do PHP "their way," creating a lot of overhead, and feeling like to  
do it right I have to buy this and that and the other thing from  
them. Starts feeling like I am again on the "their way or the  
highway" track we have all come to love.

The biggest thing I'm wondering about is (what feels like) their  
utter incompetence or indifference. I could not get (and mostly still  
can't get) debugging working. I asked about debugging (carefully  
including details of OS, versions, exact error messages and all  
relevant details) to both their their technical support and on the  
user forum. In the forum, I got nothing but a single "fan boy"  
response (sounded like a press release) and it didn't address the  
specifics of my question at all. Their technical support answers took  
3-5 days, even though I marked the question "high-priority," because  
it was actually inhibiting me from getting anything done at all. The  
responses were macro-generated, again not addressing any of my  
specific questions. Mostly they asked for "more information," even  
when I had *already supplied* that very information they requested.  
IOW, it seems like they wanted to give pat answers, and really didn't  
read the question at all.

So, anybody have experience with Zend, the organization, that you  
would share?

Ken


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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 12:08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Next time you're in the market for a new used car, consider a VW TDI
> diesel.  You may have to pay a little more, because the TDI holds its
> value so well, but its worth it.

Hi Leland!

I have approached VW sales people several times, but not recently, prior to 
1969. Their attitude always sent me out the door in half a second.
-- 
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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Next time you're in the market for a new used car, consider a VW TDI 
diesel.  You may have to pay a little more, because the TDI holds its 
value so well, but its worth it.

Regards,

LelandJ

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Monday 20 August 2007 10:54, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> The Prius is all hype and fashion 
>> 
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> All cars are hype and fashion. I look for a car 10 years old with low mileage 
> and drive it for 10 years. These new cars need a major service at 60K that 
> costs about $1000.
>   



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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 10:54, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> The Prius is all hype and fashion 

Hi Leland!

All cars are hype and fashion. I look for a car 10 years old with low mileage 
and drive it for 10 years. These new cars need a major service at 60K that 
costs about $1000.
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[OT] Blonde Joke

[Stephen . Russell]

Last year I replaced all the windows in my house with
those expensive, double-pane energy-efficient kind.

Yesterday, I got a call from the contractor who installed
them. He was complaining that the windows had been
installed a whole year ago and I had not paid for them
yet.

Now just because I'm blond doesn't mean that I am
automatically stupid.

So I told him just exactly what his fast-talking sales guy
had told ME last year... namely, that in just ONE YEAR
these windows would pay for themselves! "Helllo"? I
told him "it's been a year"!

There was only silence at the other end of the line, so I
finally just hung up He hasn't called back, probably
too embarrassed about forgetting the guarantee they made
me.

Bet he won't underestimate a blond anymore.


Stephen Russell
AutoZone Contractor
Desk 901.495-7916
Cell  901.246-0159

Memphis TN


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RE: [NF] Response to request for work on spec

[stephen . russell]

I agree that there is a difference on "Spec" and "Spec" ;->

 

"speculative work--that is, work done for no cost" is not profitable most of 
the time.  

 

But doing work to a signed off set of specifications is very important.  

 

__Stephen  





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Subject: [NF] Response to request for work on spec
From: "Ted Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, August 20, 2007 8:56 am
To: profox@leafe.com

It's not Fox, it's not tech, but it is related to the business of
computing/consulting. We've had the discussion here a few times about
how much work to do upfront for a client as part of submitting a bid
for a project. While it's not specifically tech, the sample letter
supplied by the AIGA hits the target in describing what the problems
are with this way of working with a client:


http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm/position-spec-work


Link found via: 
http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/14/dont-design-on-spec/


-- 
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Ted Roche & Associates, LLC

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Re: [OT] VW Golf BlueMotion: Frankfurt Premier Of The Most Economical Golf

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

I just got back from doing my annual physical, and its good to have that 
out of the way for another year.  The price of the new BlueMotion Golf 
was based on the euro, so I'm not sure exactly how it would be priced in 
dollars, should VW choose to bring it to the U.S.  The Prius is all hype 
and fashion right now, but I'll wait and see where it goes in the 
future.  Right now I'm thinking the Prius would be a bad investment; 
unless, you had some environmentalist Bosses, Investors, Clients, etc 
you wanted to impress.

Once the Democrats are put back at the helm of government, the value to 
the dollar should become stronger against other currencies making the 
cost of foreign imports cheaper.  Also, VW is considering opening a new 
auto plant in the U.S., so they can pay labor with cheap dollars, which 
could also decrease the price for a new VW for the U.S. consumer.

1 Euro = 1.3441 U.S. dollars

Regards,

LelandJ





Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Sunday 19 August 2007 19:22, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> I hope VW bring its new Golf BlueMotion to the U.S.
>> 
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> Why you would spend that kind of money, giving it to people who hate us, and 
> yet only spend $8 for your Spell Checker. A Prius is a lot less, and the Japs 
> love us.
>   



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RE: Foxpro report needs two detail bands for two seperate tables.

[Peter Hart]

Hi Eurico

I have sent a copy of the Excel Sheet I have created to Dave Crozier.

If you let me have your email address I'll send a copy to you.  I am
working away from the office at the moment so I have to rely on a break
to borrow a computer to log into my email.

Peter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject: RE: Foxpro report needs two detail bands for two seperate
tables.

Hi Peter

If u want a solution using the report listener, send my way
a copy of your Excel sheet, and I can try to find.

Cheers, E.

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[NF] Response to request for work on spec

[Ted Roche]

It's not Fox, it's not tech, but it is related to the business of
computing/consulting. We've had the discussion here a few times about
how much work to do upfront for a client as part of submitting a bid
for a project. While it's not specifically tech, the sample letter
supplied by the AIGA hits the target in describing what the problems
are with this way of working with a client:

http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm/position-spec-work

Link found via: http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/14/dont-design-on-spec/

-- 
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Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
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Re: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 20 August 2007 02:57, mrgmhale wrote:
> > He could just post his Linux stuff on [NF], too.
>
> I could, with the advantage that folks who do not go to ProLinux could see
> some Linux related activity in the ProFox arena, and perhaps be encouraged
> to consider a migration path themselves, if they are in a situation where
> it makes sense.  I truly wish I could have just stayed in a VFP/Windows
> environment in a cost effective manner.  Had we not seen so much [NF] info
> in ProFox on Linux and alternate RDMS offerings that are very cost
> effective I may not have known to look at Open Source as a viable path to
> consider.

Hi Gil!

ProLinux is mostly the same group as [NF], with perhaps a few exceptions. [NF] 
is MUCH more active.
-- 
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RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

[Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI]

Thanks Dave, if I need help I'll post here to share the knowledge.

v/r
 

//SIGNED//

Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF
6th MDG Data Services Manager
6th MDG Information System Security Officer
Comm (813) 827-9994  DSN 651-9994

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Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:12 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

Stephen,
Best of luck. If I can help in any way just email off list or post a
message
here. 

The source in the Dev folder was the last version I worked on. You'll
find
an "init.prg" in there (I think) that sets up all the paths and base
folder
etc., so run it first.

Dave Crozier



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And I just downloaded it, gee, the timing was uncanny...

Thanks to all, now to a bunch of work and see if I can make a
data-driven
TCP/IP ASCII listener that will conform to USAF SDC 1.2 security
guidelines.

If I'm successful I'll post the code for downloading, now, if I can get
my two neurons to fire together ...

v/r
 

//SIGNED//

Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF
6th MDG Data Services Manager
6th MDG Information System Security Officer
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On Aug 20, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> I did send it to you along with Allen on Saturday but just in case  
> I've just
> loaded it onto Ed's download section - It may well take a short  
> time to
> appear as I think that Ed validates the downloads first.

Just posted it.

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VFP to PostgreSQL conversion utility from Kevin Cully

[MB Software Solutions]

Kevin,

This was worthy of its own thread so that folks searching the archives 
might find it!  Sounds great...thanks!

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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Cully
>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:57 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last
>>
>>
>> I posted a program based on Ed's Stru2MySQL into the dowloads section
>> called Stru2Postgresql.prg.  Maybe it'll save you a couple of hours
>> scripting stuff to upsize your VFP data.  Fell free to make improvements
>> as you see fit!
>>
>> http://leafe.com/dls/vfp
>>
>> -Kevin
>> CULLY Technologies, LLC
>>
>> Sponsor of FoxForward 2007
>> foxforward.net
>> 

-- 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
http://fabmate.com
"Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!"



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RE: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last

[mrgmhale]

Woo-Hoo!  Thanks, Kevin!  I will take a look at that later this week.  I am
certain it will be of help.

Regards,

Gil

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Cully
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last
>
>
> I posted a program based on Ed's Stru2MySQL into the dowloads section
> called Stru2Postgresql.prg.  Maybe it'll save you a couple of hours
> scripting stuff to upsize your VFP data.  Fell free to make improvements
> as you see fit!
>
> http://leafe.com/dls/vfp
>
> -Kevin
> CULLY Technologies, LLC
>
> Sponsor of FoxForward 2007
> foxforward.net
>
>
> mrgmhale wrote:
> > So, what is it I did at long last?  I picked up a Dell 840
> Server to replace
> > a perfectly good Dell sc420 Server that has been running my Symantec
> > AntiVirus Server Management Console, managed all of my Secondary
> > Disk-To-Disk, and Disk-To-LTO3 Tape file backup processes for my entire
> > system, and hosted several VFP databases for my Test
> Applications.  After
> > getting the Dell 840 all lit up and configured with the apps
> and data from
> > the sc420 machine, I set about getting the sc420 ready for a
> new life.  The
> > Dell 840 has pretty decent specs, P4 dual core 3.0Ghz, 2Gb DDR2
> 667Mhz RAM,
> > 160 SATA Boot HDD, 250Gb SATA "scratch HDD", 2 each 73Gb SCSI
> HDDs, 4 port
> > PCI USB v-2.0 card, Adaptec 39160 SCSI 64 bit PCI-X card, 6 each USB
> > external HDDs (secondary backup HDDs), and an HP LTO3 920 SCSI
> Tape Drive
> > hanging off it.  The 840 has more than enough punch to handle
> what I plan to
> > throw at it.  My production tables/files are going to remain on my Dell
> > sc430 unit, at least for now.  That has also been one sweet
> Server (Win2k3,
> > 1Gb DDR2 RAM, dual 73Gb SCSI HDDs, etc...)
> >
> > So, here is what "I Did"...  I bumped the sc420 RAM from 768Mg
> to 2Gb RAM
> > (768Mg was more than adequate for what it had been used for
> under Windows
> > 2003 Server), pulled one of its 73Gb SCSI HDDs out of it (popped it and
> > another 73Gb SCSI HDD into the 840 Server), and scrubbed the
> partition off
> > the SATA Boot Drive 0.  I then took a DVD I had burned Novell's
> SUSE Linux
> > Enterprise 10 O/S onto, and installed that O/S onto the sc420
> Server.  The
> > setup looked a bit unusual, but every newer version of Windows
> O/S looks a
> > bit strange at first also.  I actually got the installation done without
> > having to strip and restart the project a few times!  Of
> course, I may find
> > problems later on, but by then I hope to be familiar enough
> with SUSE Linux
> > to know what to do about any "alleged Installer Errors" ...
> >
> > Next I plan to install PostgreSQL onto the Linux Server, and
> begin to host
> > some PostgreSQL databases via HTTPS my colleague (David
> Johnston) has put
> > together for Windows Server platforms, along with his Browser
> Scripting and
> > Java solutions that are replacing my pure VFP "Document GoGetter" (data
> > archiving) application that has been running at several client locations
> > since 2002.  At some point I will be migrating my DCMS (CRM for auto
> > dealerships) to a PostgreSQL back end also, and am seriously considering
> > using Dabo/Python for the front end.  Thus far I do not see any multiple
> > platform Open Source solutions out there that come close to
> what Dabo has
> > become.
> >
> > So, I guess the first really serious fissure is finally
> represented with my
> > SUSE Linux move.  I will always have to be working in the Windows
> > environment for front end apps, but for scalability, built in
> security and
> > thin-net reasons I finally had to take my first serious "Bite
> Of The Bullet"
> > with the SUSE Linux move.  It almost feels like a long, dragged
> out break-up
> > in a way.  I do plan to develop apps using VFP here and there, at least
> > until I get real familiar with Dabo, Python and PostgreSQL.  But the
> > handwriting has been on the wall for some time now in my little
> world, and
> > there is not much I can do if I plan to remain in the game for
> another few
> > decades.
> >
> > Hmmm, this almost looks like a Swan Song of sorts.  It is not.
> That will
> > likely come many years from now at soonest - if ever.  I do not
> think this
> > is quite what M$ had in mind with its ISV/MSDN program ...
> Essentially,
> > for me the ISV program became a Migration Enablement tool, with its
> > extremely cost effective licensing for developers.  Fact is, if
> M$ had not
> > gotten so greedy with the Terminal Services CAL licensing with
> the Server
> > 2003 (which bit me the other month), I may not have been quite
> so quick to
> > jump to Linux - at least not for another year or so.  It just
> added fuel to
> > the smoldering fire for me.  Oh well...  I guess that makes me
> guilt of "Cut
> > & Run", eh?
> >
> > Gil
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [NF] These big monitors are so cheap now (add lots of exclamation marks)

[Derek Kalweit]

> Eventually having a cooler setup than Derek or Ed: priceless.
>
> Whil

Cooler? I can't wait to see the photos... Sounds like half my setup, tho


-- 
Derek


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RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

[Dave Crozier]

Stephen,
Best of luck. If I can help in any way just email off list or post a message
here. 

The source in the Dev folder was the last version I worked on. You'll find
an "init.prg" in there (I think) that sets up all the paths and base folder
etc., so run it first.

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And I just downloaded it, gee, the timing was uncanny...

Thanks to all, now to a bunch of work and see if I can make a
data-driven
TCP/IP ASCII listener that will conform to USAF SDC 1.2 security
guidelines.

If I'm successful I'll post the code for downloading, now, if I can get
my two neurons to fire together ...

v/r
 

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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:49 AM
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On Aug 20, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> I did send it to you along with Allen on Saturday but just in case  
> I've just
> loaded it onto Ed's download section - It may well take a short  
> time to
> appear as I think that Ed validates the downloads first.

Just posted it.

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[Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI]

And I just downloaded it, gee, the timing was uncanny...

Thanks to all, now to a bunch of work and see if I can make a
data-driven
TCP/IP ASCII listener that will conform to USAF SDC 1.2 security
guidelines.

If I'm successful I'll post the code for downloading, now, if I can get
my two neurons to fire together ...

v/r
 

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On Aug 20, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> I did send it to you along with Allen on Saturday but just in case  
> I've just
> loaded it onto Ed's download section - It may well take a short  
> time to
> appear as I think that Ed validates the downloads first.

Just posted it.

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Re: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last

[Kevin Cully]

I posted a program based on Ed's Stru2MySQL into the dowloads section
called Stru2Postgresql.prg.  Maybe it'll save you a couple of hours
scripting stuff to upsize your VFP data.  Fell free to make improvements
as you see fit!

http://leafe.com/dls/vfp

-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC

Sponsor of FoxForward 2007
foxforward.net


mrgmhale wrote:
> So, what is it I did at long last?  I picked up a Dell 840 Server to replace
> a perfectly good Dell sc420 Server that has been running my Symantec
> AntiVirus Server Management Console, managed all of my Secondary
> Disk-To-Disk, and Disk-To-LTO3 Tape file backup processes for my entire
> system, and hosted several VFP databases for my Test Applications.  After
> getting the Dell 840 all lit up and configured with the apps and data from
> the sc420 machine, I set about getting the sc420 ready for a new life.  The
> Dell 840 has pretty decent specs, P4 dual core 3.0Ghz, 2Gb DDR2 667Mhz RAM,
> 160 SATA Boot HDD, 250Gb SATA "scratch HDD", 2 each 73Gb SCSI HDDs, 4 port
> PCI USB v-2.0 card, Adaptec 39160 SCSI 64 bit PCI-X card, 6 each USB
> external HDDs (secondary backup HDDs), and an HP LTO3 920 SCSI Tape Drive
> hanging off it.  The 840 has more than enough punch to handle what I plan to
> throw at it.  My production tables/files are going to remain on my Dell
> sc430 unit, at least for now.  That has also been one sweet Server (Win2k3,
> 1Gb DDR2 RAM, dual 73Gb SCSI HDDs, etc...)
> 
> So, here is what "I Did"...  I bumped the sc420 RAM from 768Mg  to 2Gb RAM
> (768Mg was more than adequate for what it had been used for under Windows
> 2003 Server), pulled one of its 73Gb SCSI HDDs out of it (popped it and
> another 73Gb SCSI HDD into the 840 Server), and scrubbed the partition off
> the SATA Boot Drive 0.  I then took a DVD I had burned Novell's SUSE Linux
> Enterprise 10 O/S onto, and installed that O/S onto the sc420 Server.  The
> setup looked a bit unusual, but every newer version of Windows O/S looks a
> bit strange at first also.  I actually got the installation done without
> having to strip and restart the project a few times!  Of course, I may find
> problems later on, but by then I hope to be familiar enough with SUSE Linux
> to know what to do about any "alleged Installer Errors" ...
> 
> Next I plan to install PostgreSQL onto the Linux Server, and begin to host
> some PostgreSQL databases via HTTPS my colleague (David Johnston) has put
> together for Windows Server platforms, along with his Browser Scripting and
> Java solutions that are replacing my pure VFP "Document GoGetter" (data
> archiving) application that has been running at several client locations
> since 2002.  At some point I will be migrating my DCMS (CRM for auto
> dealerships) to a PostgreSQL back end also, and am seriously considering
> using Dabo/Python for the front end.  Thus far I do not see any multiple
> platform Open Source solutions out there that come close to what Dabo has
> become.
> 
> So, I guess the first really serious fissure is finally represented with my
> SUSE Linux move.  I will always have to be working in the Windows
> environment for front end apps, but for scalability, built in security and
> thin-net reasons I finally had to take my first serious "Bite Of The Bullet"
> with the SUSE Linux move.  It almost feels like a long, dragged out break-up
> in a way.  I do plan to develop apps using VFP here and there, at least
> until I get real familiar with Dabo, Python and PostgreSQL.  But the
> handwriting has been on the wall for some time now in my little world, and
> there is not much I can do if I plan to remain in the game for another few
> decades.
> 
> Hmmm, this almost looks like a Swan Song of sorts.  It is not.  That will
> likely come many years from now at soonest - if ever.  I do not think this
> is quite what M$ had in mind with its ISV/MSDN program ...  Essentially,
> for me the ISV program became a Migration Enablement tool, with its
> extremely cost effective licensing for developers.  Fact is, if M$ had not
> gotten so greedy with the Terminal Services CAL licensing with the Server
> 2003 (which bit me the other month), I may not have been quite so quick to
> jump to Linux - at least not for another year or so.  It just added fuel to
> the smoldering fire for me.  Oh well...  I guess that makes me guilt of "Cut
> & Run", eh?
> 
> Gil
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

[Dave Crozier]

Thanks Ed

Dave Crozier


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On Aug 20, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> I did send it to you along with Allen on Saturday but just in case  
> I've just
> loaded it onto Ed's download section - It may well take a short  
> time to
> appear as I think that Ed validates the downloads first.

Just posted it.

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Re: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

[Ed Leafe]

On Aug 20, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> I did send it to you along with Allen on Saturday but just in case  
> I've just
> loaded it onto Ed's download section - It may well take a short  
> time to
> appear as I think that Ed validates the downloads first.

Just posted it.

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RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

[Dave Crozier]

Stephen,
I did send it to you along with Allen on Saturday but just in case I've just
loaded it onto Ed's download section - It may well take a short time to
appear as I think that Ed validates the downloads first.

Dave Crozier


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Sent: 20 August 2007 13:29
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I don't think I received your email, care to try again?

v/r
 

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:13 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

Stephen and Al,
I've just emailed you both with the last/latest coding I have.

Dave Crozier


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Dave,

 I'm interested in getting the classes, please email direct ...

Thanks!!!



v/r
 

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:01 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

Stephen,
You might want to take a look and Google on VFP and FoxSocks which was a
project which I was marginally involved in about 4 years ago. This was a
project to produce a purely VFP and Windows API class library to do
SMTP,
POP3 etc etc and contains some good coding. We did have problems though
with
VFP9 and the way it handled the TCP/IP as opposed to the way it was done
in
VFP7 but that was solved. This may at least point you in the general
direction of useful code as a starting point.

If I can find the link to the latest source code I'll post it. If not
then
I'll email you the latest that I have as the project seemed to die a
death
even though I've used the base classes (which work perfectly) in other
projects if you are interested.

Dave Crozier


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Subject: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

Anybody got a VFP module that does non-standard HL7 TCP/IP listening
that is parameter driven for the initial handshake character sequence
and start and end of message characters?  I need to modify an interface
and would not like to have to write code straight up, thanks in advance.

v/r
 

//SIGNED//

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RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

[Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI]

Ahh, that's what you did...now to find the DL directory.

v/r
 

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David,
I'll do that tomorrow.

Dave Crozier

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On Friday, August 17, 2007 3:13 PM Dave Crozier wrote:

>Stephen and Al,
>I've just emailed you both with the last/latest coding I have.

May I suggest you upload it to the dl directory on leafe.com?  Thanks!

David L. Crooks



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RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

[Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI]

I don't think I received your email, care to try again?

v/r
 

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Stephen and Al,
I've just emailed you both with the last/latest coding I have.

Dave Crozier


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Dave,

 I'm interested in getting the classes, please email direct ...

Thanks!!!



v/r
 

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:01 AM
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Subject: RE: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

Stephen,
You might want to take a look and Google on VFP and FoxSocks which was a
project which I was marginally involved in about 4 years ago. This was a
project to produce a purely VFP and Windows API class library to do
SMTP,
POP3 etc etc and contains some good coding. We did have problems though
with
VFP9 and the way it handled the TCP/IP as opposed to the way it was done
in
VFP7 but that was solved. This may at least point you in the general
direction of useful code as a starting point.

If I can find the link to the latest source code I'll post it. If not
then
I'll email you the latest that I have as the project seemed to die a
death
even though I've used the base classes (which work perfectly) in other
projects if you are interested.

Dave Crozier


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Of Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
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Subject: TCP/IP ASCII File Listener

Anybody got a VFP module that does non-standard HL7 TCP/IP listening
that is parameter driven for the initial handshake character sequence
and start and end of message characters?  I need to modify an interface
and would not like to have to write code straight up, thanks in advance.

v/r
 

//SIGNED//

Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF
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Comm (813) 827-9994  DSN 651-9994



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Re: Excel question

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Jaime Vasquez wrote:
> Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>> Jaime Vasquez wrote:
>>
>>> Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>>>
 My reports  generate Excel files, if the report is too long (more than
 64000 lines) I use different pages in the same file. I have two ways to
 do it, either I export up to say 15000 lines with a copy to command to a
 temporary excel file, then open it (as an excel object), copy it's
 contents to the clipboard (through excel command) and then copy the
 clipboard to a new page in my multi page excel file. The pro of this
 method is speed, the con is that if the customer uses the clipboard he
 interferes with the report.
 The other way is to insert the data cell by cell, but if the file is too
 large it gets slow.
 Does any of you know of some other way to optimize this?
>>>
>>> Ricardo,
>>>
>>> The easiest and fastews way, imo, is to read the data with ado, next use 
>>> the copyfromrecordset method to copy to excel.
>>>
>>> It will be fast and you don't have to deal with the volatile clipboard.
>>>
>>> *Create ado connection and recordset object
>>> loConn = NewObject('ADODB.Connection')
>>> loRs = NewObject('adodb.recordset')
>>> loconn.ConnectionString = "Provider=vfpoledb.1;Data 
>>> Source=C:\myvfpdbfolder\;Collating Sequence=general;"
>>> loconn.Open
>>> lors.Open("select * from credidt.dbf", LoConn)
>>>
>>> *excel object:
>>> loExcel = NewObject("Excel.application")
>>> loWorkBook = loexcel.Workbooks.Add
>>> loWorkSheet = loexcel.ActiveWorkbook.Worksheets.Add
>>> loExcel.visible = .T.   
>>> loworksheet.range("A1").CopyFromRecordset(lors) && copy data to excel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Te agradezco mucho Jaime. The problem is I process my data in the local
>> app, I take data from  two different engines and combine and process it
>> so I am actually dealing with a VFP cursor which I have to insert into a
>> workbook in chunks of 15 to 64000 records per worksheet. I can see that
>> if I do something like "loworksheet.ActivePage.CopyFromRecordSet(lors)"
>> I might get the file into a given page, but I would still have two
>> problems, first how to divide the file in chunks (doable), and second I
>> have my data in a cursor. Is there a way of converting a local VFP
>> cursor into a record set?
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
> 
> 
> Yes, a VFP cursor can be converted to an ADO recordset, see: 
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192762
> 
> 
> If you want to copy just a number of records, use the sencond parameter 
> of the CopyFromRecordSet method:
> 
> *get a reference to the range where you want the results:
> oWorkSheet = oWorkBook.Worksheets("Page1")
> oworksheet.Range("a1").CopyFromRecordset(loRs, 150)   && copy first 150 
> records
> 
> * next page
> oWorkSheet = oWorkBook.Worksheets("Page2")
> oworksheet.Range("a1").CopyFromRecordset(loRs, 150)  && copy next 150 
> records.
> 
> And so on...
> 
> 

Thanks a lot Jaime. This will be really useful.


> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> Saludos,
> Jaime Vasquez
> Guatemala C.A.
> 
> 


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Re: Excel question

[Jaime Vasquez]

Andy Davies wrote:
>>Using Jaime's method doesn't involve any export/import of physical
>>data files.
>>Dave Crozier
> 
> 
> Dave,
> does rs.Open("select * from credidt.dbf",...)  do less under the hood than
> use credidt.dbf then?
> 
> .. and does anyone know if the excel .CopyFromRecordset method also
> truncates cells to 256 characters?
> 

No, it's limited to the limit of the cell, 32767 characters. Only 1024 
display in cell, all 32767 display in the formula bar.



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Re: Excel question

[Jaime Vasquez]

Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> Jaime Vasquez wrote:
> 
>>Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>>
>>>My reports  generate Excel files, if the report is too long (more than
>>>64000 lines) I use different pages in the same file. I have two ways to
>>>do it, either I export up to say 15000 lines with a copy to command to a
>>>temporary excel file, then open it (as an excel object), copy it's
>>>contents to the clipboard (through excel command) and then copy the
>>>clipboard to a new page in my multi page excel file. The pro of this
>>>method is speed, the con is that if the customer uses the clipboard he
>>>interferes with the report.
>>>The other way is to insert the data cell by cell, but if the file is too
>>>large it gets slow.
>>>Does any of you know of some other way to optimize this?
>>
>>
>>Ricardo,
>>
>>The easiest and fastews way, imo, is to read the data with ado, next use 
>>the copyfromrecordset method to copy to excel.
>>
>>It will be fast and you don't have to deal with the volatile clipboard.
>>
>>*Create ado connection and recordset object
>>loConn = NewObject('ADODB.Connection')
>>loRs = NewObject('adodb.recordset')
>>loconn.ConnectionString = "Provider=vfpoledb.1;Data 
>>Source=C:\myvfpdbfolder\;Collating Sequence=general;"
>>loconn.Open
>>lors.Open("select * from credidt.dbf", LoConn)
>>
>>*excel object:
>>loExcel = NewObject("Excel.application")
>>loWorkBook = loexcel.Workbooks.Add
>>loWorkSheet = loexcel.ActiveWorkbook.Worksheets.Add
>>loExcel.visible = .T. 
>>loworksheet.range("A1").CopyFromRecordset(lors)   && copy data to excel
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Te agradezco mucho Jaime. The problem is I process my data in the local
> app, I take data from  two different engines and combine and process it
> so I am actually dealing with a VFP cursor which I have to insert into a
> workbook in chunks of 15 to 64000 records per worksheet. I can see that
> if I do something like "loworksheet.ActivePage.CopyFromRecordSet(lors)"
> I might get the file into a given page, but I would still have two
> problems, first how to divide the file in chunks (doable), and second I
> have my data in a cursor. Is there a way of converting a local VFP
> cursor into a record set?
> 
> Thanks again
> 


Yes, a VFP cursor can be converted to an ADO recordset, see: 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192762


If you want to copy just a number of records, use the sencond parameter 
of the CopyFromRecordSet method:

*get a reference to the range where you want the results:
oWorkSheet = oWorkBook.Worksheets("Page1")
oworksheet.Range("a1").CopyFromRecordset(loRs, 150) && copy first 150 
records

* next page
oWorkSheet = oWorkBook.Worksheets("Page2")
oworksheet.Range("a1").CopyFromRecordset(loRs, 150)  && copy next 150 
records.

And so on...




HTH



Saludos,
Jaime Vasquez
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Re: Excel question

[Jaime Vasquez]

Paul Newton wrote:
> Dave
> 
> IIRC the 65536 limit applies to worksheets not workbooks?
> 
> So one should be able to use this method multiple times (with chunks of 
> 65536 records) and put each chunk in a different worksheet in the same 
> workbook
> 


Yes, the limit is for Excel, not ADO, although Excel 2007 has now a 
limit of 1048576 rows.



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Re: Excel question

[Jaime Vasquez]

Andy Davies wrote:
>>The easiest and fastews way, imo, is to read the data with ado, next use
>>the copyfromrecordset method to copy to excel.
> 
> 
> Jaime,
> what advantages does ado have over e.g.  'copy to xxx type xl5' ?
> 

Andy,

Advantages, imo:

More control, with copy to... , you have to createa a file for any 
worksheet and later marge each file to a workbook, wich tends to more 
erros and larger programming.  With ADO, you only have to get a 
referencie to the range where you want to copy the results, that can be 
any cell in any worksheet.

Speed, no need to create phisical files, everything is done in memory.

No need to deal with odd codepage conversions.

ADO is the method Excel underestands better.  Remember use the right 
tool for the job.  :)



HTH



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RE: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last

[mrgmhale]

> He could just post his Linux stuff on [NF], too.

I could, with the advantage that folks who do not go to ProLinux could see
some Linux related activity in the ProFox arena, and perhaps be encouraged
to consider a migration path themselves, if they are in a situation where it
makes sense.  I truly wish I could have just stayed in a VFP/Windows
environment in a cost effective manner.  Had we not seen so much [NF] info
in ProFox on Linux and alternate RDMS offerings that are very cost effective
I may not have known to look at Open Source as a viable path to consider.

Gil

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last
>
>
> On Sunday 19 August 2007 21:53, Ted Roche wrote:
> > On 8/19/07, mrgmhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  Oh well...  I guess that makes me guilt of "Cut & Run", eh?
> >
> > Not exactly. You must know, grasshopper, when it's time for you to go.
> > Loyalty only goes so far. Ed Leafe and Paul McNett and Whil Hentzen
> > are doing what's right for their businesses and their customers. It
> > sounds like those are your considerations, too. The more you know, the
> > better you can serve your customers.
> >
> > Join the ProLinux mailing list and don't hesitate to ask questions!
>
> Hi Ted!
>
> He could just post his Linux stuff on [NF], too. There is almost
> as much Linux
> here as there.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://www.pete-theisen.com/
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>
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RE: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last

[mrgmhale]

> Join the ProLinux mailing list and don't hesitate to ask questions!
>

Yeah, I will do that likely this week.  First I need to make certain the new
840 Server, and the remaining sc420 and sc430 Dell Servers are being backed
up correctly, along with all the Win2k and WinXP client PCs.  After that the
sc420 (I have 2 sc420 Dell Servers, one sc430 and now the 840 as well) that
is now running Linux will start getting my attention, as will installing
PostgreSQL and pcAnywhere v-12 (v-11.5+ is now multi-platform capable, hosts
in either Red Hat or SUSE Linux, and even some newer Mac O/S platforms!).

> Loyalty only goes so far.

Re: Loyalty only going so far, my loyalty has always been to my clients and
the prospects on my target market.  I strive to bring them far more
recognizeable and measureable value than they pay me each and every day.  As
I see it, if I can use a DMS or O/S that is free of license and/or
connectivity fees, then I can offer more value to my market.  If I had no
option but to move to a non-Open Source RDMS, with an attached fee, as
opposed to staying with VFP, I would be in a pretty tough spot.  One of the
many things I love about VFP is being able to deploy its capabilities in a
compiled form with no further license fees for M$ from me or my clients (and
its stability, speed and slick development interface, etc...).  Luckily
Linux and PostgreSQL are available, and are decent unto themselves, and not
likely to go away or see any kind of significant price bump (free * 150%
increase still equals free, heh-heh).  The Novell vs SCO (M$) court result
the other day sure helped my outlook as well .

Gil

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> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Well. I did it, at long last
>
>
> On 8/19/07, mrgmhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  Oh well...  I guess that makes me guilt of "Cut & Run", eh?
>
> Not exactly. You must know, grasshopper, when it's time for you to go.
> Loyalty only goes so far. Ed Leafe and Paul McNett and Whil Hentzen
> are doing what's right for their businesses and their customers. It
> sounds like those are your considerations, too. The more you know, the
> better you can serve your customers.
>
> Join the ProLinux mailing list and don't hesitate to ask questions!
>
> --
> Ted Roche
> Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
> http://www.tedroche.com
>
>
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