RE: [OT] How Low Can it Go?
God you spout shit Madigan -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 March 2009 21:23 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] How Low Can it Go? No trust in Obama. Don't elect a boy to do a man's job. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: [OT] How Low Can it Go? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:18 PM So DOW is down another ~280 pts down today. Boy those bail outs are doing wonders. Stimulus package is having an immediate and dramatic effect, I'd say. Since the election just 5 mos ago, DOW is down over ~30%. Another way to look at it: Since the Dems took control of congress in January 2007, DOW is down 47%, SP down 52%. It hit a peak just before January 2008, and is down 51.21 % since then, and the SP is down 54.25% since that peak. So about a year after Congress changed hands, the tumble began. You can blame Bush if you want, but Presidents are not kings, and you can't ignore all-important the roll Congress plays in setting the agenda and controlling the purse strings either, and they came in with the express purpose to change economic policies and priorities. Boy, they did exactly that. Now with Obama, it's tantamount to a complete reversal. If you look at the time period 2001 to 2007, the market was up overall 15.82% (SP +8.16%). Keep in mind after 9/11, the market dropped significantly due to recession and terrorist attacks. From the low point in 2002 to the day the Congress switched to democrat control in 2007, the market was up 55.74% (SP +67.68%). As of today we're about 8.5% lower than we were at the low point in 2002. Also, since Sept 18, when a curious series of computerized trades sucked $550 billion from US money markets in the span of an hour and a half before being halted, the DOW is down about 42%. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/011101c99dd7$f476b6c0$dd6424...@r r.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1dbb1a8a053c9c428c990f4e53eeb662cd8...@euros01.euro.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] How Low Can it Go?
Aint that the truth... and he never gets constipated. It's a constant flow or little nuggets. But if you want a LOT of diahorrea just look for Bob! -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 7:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] How Low Can it Go? God you spout shit Madigan -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 March 2009 21:23 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] How Low Can it Go? No trust in Obama. Don't elect a boy to do a man's job. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: [OT] How Low Can it Go? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:18 PM So DOW is down another ~280 pts down today. Boy those bail outs are doing wonders. Stimulus package is having an immediate and dramatic effect, I'd say. Since the election just 5 mos ago, DOW is down over ~30%. Another way to look at it: Since the Dems took control of congress in January 2007, DOW is down 47%, SP down 52%. It hit a peak just before January 2008, and is down 51.21 % since then, and the SP is down 54.25% since that peak. So about a year after Congress changed hands, the tumble began. You can blame Bush if you want, but Presidents are not kings, and you can't ignore all-important the roll Congress plays in setting the agenda and controlling the purse strings either, and they came in with the express purpose to change economic policies and priorities. Boy, they did exactly that. Now with Obama, it's tantamount to a complete reversal. If you look at the time period 2001 to 2007, the market was up overall 15.82% (SP +8.16%). Keep in mind after 9/11, the market dropped significantly due to recession and terrorist attacks. From the low point in 2002 to the day the Congress switched to democrat control in 2007, the market was up 55.74% (SP +67.68%). As of today we're about 8.5% lower than we were at the low point in 2002. Also, since Sept 18, when a curious series of computerized trades sucked $550 billion from US money markets in the span of an hour and a half before being halted, the DOW is down about 42%. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/011101c99dd7$f476b6c0$dd6424...@r r.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/004b01c99e3c$8d69fe50$a83dfa...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: I hope these rankings aren't news to anyone coz the rest of us knew who were the biggest three economies for a long time. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 3:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession We are the big dog and Belgium is the bacteria in a flea's stomach. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice Here! Here! Latest studies say the U.S. is the biggest, Japan is second, China third. And once again one forgets about the EU whose economy is bigger than the US one A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc710903060124i663938f0je4a2e500d883c...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
Jean Laeremans wrote: And once again one forgets about the EU whose economy is bigger than the US one But these are old timers, they are still in love with their small definitions. They'll tell you EU is not a country, then you might say USA is a federation of small countries they call states, etc.etc.. Economic unions make sense when you're talking economy (up to a point), so then EU is the biggest economy. But bigger or not, does size give you ANY right? Don't forget big guys only run the show till smaller guys get fed up, join together and kill the bastard (economically speaking, of course). ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49b0f4cf.9010...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Opinion Needed about The Dark Side
Greetings all! I am seeking input from my associates re: a project that is actually for me this time. I picked up a Mac Mini the other month, and have yet to deploy it in my office, although that was the intent. It kind of made its way into the living room for testing with the new NetFlix capability of using both IE and FireFox, and now for both Windows XP/Vista and Mac OS X, for on demand movies over a high speed Internet connection. It has worked well for that purpose with the wide-screen TV/Monitor, but represents a huge waste of the investment into the Mac Mini, as well as not allowing me to deploy the Mac where I intended it to go anyway. The other week Lynda (wife) ordered an Asus 900 Netbook (Notebook) from BestBuy.com. Initially I snickered as usually these Netbooks are so pathetic in terms of delivering the kind of punch I felt I need. But when it arrived I set it up and am now a believer that weaker CPUs with the 1Gb of RAM this unit shipped with (I still pumped it up to 2Gb RAM, just cuz), with a 120Gb HDD, can actually be useful. I was so impressed with the unit, and the Sale Price of $249, that I ordered two more, but with the Atom CPU for hyperthreading capability as opposed to her Celeron M CPU. I also got 160Gb HDD and a 10 screen as opposed to her 9 screen. I must admit that I like her smaller unit more, just out of appreciation of its power in such a nice and small package. Also, the Atom CPU runs at 1.6Ghz as opposed to her Celeron M at 900Mhz. The Atom handles hyerthreading. But side by side I can not detect any practical difference in performance, although I am still running with the basic 1Gb RAM for now. Okay, on to the matter at hand now that you have some background... I figured the Asus 1000HD unit I got for myself (the other one is for a friend of ours) will never replace my current HP notebook I travel with (1024 x 768 for the HP notebook vs 1024 x 600 for the Asus netbook), but will come in handy for demo and projects I do not want to run on my regular notebook for whatever reason. When not in use I plan to use the Asus with NetFlix instead of the Mac Mini, so I can now deploy the Mac where initially intended - as my replacement primary eMail and communication PC instead of replacing my older AMD 1800 PC used for that purpose with yet another Windows PC. So, the question... My AMD 1800, 2Gb RAM, eMail/Communication PC is running M$ Office 2000 with Outlook being used for my eMail, Calendar and Contact Management management. I have both Mac Office 2004 and Mac Office 2007 available to use with the Mac Mini. I retain eMails, with attachments, form clients for very long periods of time. My Outlook.pst file is archived via Outlook every few months, but is still weighing in at a swollen 571Mg in size! And it is working well. For all the bad things I could say about M$, I must admit I have never had any problems with Outlook 2000, other than performance at rare times - but that is obviously self-inflicted given the size of the Outlook.pst file. My concern is that in the Mac (or Linux) I may never get that kind of application reliability with the amount of info I retain. I need to know if anyone has any opinion about any Mac OS X compatible Mac eMail, Calendar and Contact Management apps, to include the Mac Office offerings, that they have heard or found to be reliable and easy to deal with as Outlook. Many thanks in advance. Gil Gilbert M. Hale g...@gilhale.com 585-359-8085 - Office (Rolls To Cellular) 585-202-4341 - Cellular/VoiceMail --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ndbblhfmcdkpegpoiiapeeedbkab@gilhale.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side
On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Gil Hale wrote: but is still weighing in at a swollen 571Mg 571 milligrams? That's not very much? ;-) My concern is that in the Mac (or Linux) I may never get that kind of application reliability with the amount of info I retain. I need to know if anyone has any opinion about any Mac OS X compatible Mac eMail, Calendar and Contact Management apps, to include the Mac Office offerings, that they have heard or found to be reliable and easy to deal with as Outlook. I use the defaul Mail, iCal and Address Book. These sync up with my iPhone, making that part of my life much easier. But I use IMAP for email, so I don't have to worry about the local file size: all the mail resides on the server, even if my laptop were to end up in a wood chipper somewhere, I'd still have my mail. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/b58e5196-25d3-43cd-ba91-4e85ba512...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side
Gil Hale wrote: It kind of made its way into the living room for testing with the new NetFlix capability of using both IE and FireFox, Netflix supports Firefox now? Cool! About time. (Sorry I can't be even SLIGHTLY helpful about YOUR problem, though! :-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49b13e8b.3070...@taconic.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Vulcan.NET
Anyone had any hands-on with this? The syntax looks more Clipper than VFP, but in the XBase ballpark of course. -- Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1236353869.7464.1304014...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Vulcan.NET
Alan, Vulcan.net is a direct clone of the old CA Visual Objects. I moved from Clipper to VO for about 6 months as it was the first reall oops development language I ever looked at. However the learning curve was very steep, very few GUI designers and most stuff needed to be hand coded (as per Clipper). It was also very cumbersome and I finally gave up on it when I discovered VFP. It doesn't look like it has changed very much. One nice thing was code blocks in which you could generate dynamic inline code. I think you would find it extremely limiting after using VFP though, but then again most languages seem lacking in comparison. For your information Clipper xbase language was made open source and is still in development in the Harbour project. http://www.harbour-project.org/ Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 06 March 2009 15:38 To: profox Subject: Vulcan.NET Anyone had any hands-on with this? The syntax looks more Clipper than VFP, but in the XBase ballpark of course. -- Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/f7bafcc40f4342b5aaeca6443d6f9...@develop ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
http://dotbloat.blogspot.com/2009/03/weekend-update-mac-vs-pc-commercial.html Eh Ted, I think you want this blog in the VFP blogroll Bill --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cafad1610903060753x50d44a57maecd154829c7e...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Fri, March 6, 2009 10:50 am, Dave Crozier wrote: snipped For your information Clipper xbase language was made open source and is still in development in the Harbour project. http://www.harbour-project.org/ Ed -- the harbour project boasts of 64-bit capability. Does Dabo work on 64-bit systems too? We've heard that VFP won't natively. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/59285.69.7.77.20.1236356829.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Ed -- the harbour project boasts of 64-bit capability. Does Dabo work on 64-bit systems too? We've heard that VFP won't natively. I assume that would be more of a Python issue than a Dabo issue. Python does work on 64-bit sytems. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49b14e96.1050...@ruff.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Harbor Project (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Fri, March 6, 2009 10:50 am, Dave Crozier wrote: For your information Clipper xbase language was made open source and is still in development in the Harbour project. http://www.harbour-project.org/ Looked at the sample code (e.g., http://www.harbour-project.org/samples/parseini.prg.html)did't like it! WTF would I want to do @SAYs in today's dev world? Sorrynot for me! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2429.69.7.77.20.1236357244.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Fri, March 6, 2009 11:25 am, Casey McGuire wrote: MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Ed -- the harbour project boasts of 64-bit capability. Does Dabo work on 64-bit systems too? We've heard that VFP won't natively. I assume that would be more of a Python issue than a Dabo issue. Python does work on 64-bit sytems. You're right---it's all what Python can do...and since you confirmed Python can work on 64-bit, then I'm virtually certain that Ed/Paul wouldn't change that! Thanks, Casey! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3051.69.7.77.20.1236357302.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
OMG .. that was hilarious!!! I especially liked the part when she said she
likes go-carts. I can totally relate!!! {g}
Cathy
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http://dotbloat.blogspot.com/2009/03/weekend-update-mac-vs-pc-
commercial.html
Eh Ted, I think you want this blog in the VFP blogroll
Bill
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Re: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side
Gil Hale wrote: My concern is that in the Mac (or Linux) I may never get that kind of application reliability with the amount of info I retain. I need to know if anyone has any opinion about any Mac OS X compatible Mac eMail, Calendar and Contact Management apps, to include the Mac Office offerings, that they have heard or found to be reliable and easy to deal with as Outlook. You will be hard-pressed to replace Outlook, if you are really using all the integrated and proprietary email-calendar-contact management. However, I run my own mail server and use IMAP to store my email, and I've retained *all* non-spam email received and sent, with attachments, for over 10 years. It comes in at about 12 GB, all accessible almost instantaneously from whatever email client on whatever computer I elect to connect from. I back up my mail store, among other things, from my server in LA to my laptop here in Hollister nightly, using rsync. It takes like 3 minutes. I've long wanted to move to the next step of integrating an LDAP server for my contacts and iCal entries, but haven't gotten that far yet. So, while you won't find a drop-in replacement for Outlook for Linux or Mac (unless you go with Mac Entourage), the pieces are there just not integrated in a monolithic app. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49b153f8.7070...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Ed -- the harbour project boasts of 64-bit capability. Does Dabo work on 64-bit systems too? We've heard that VFP won't natively. Dabo works fine on 64-bit systems, as confirmed by my 2 64-bit operating platforms (Mac OS X Leopard on Intel Core2 Duo and Ubuntu 7.10/64bit running in a virtual machine with 64-bit virtual cpu on top of that mac platform). If someone wants to donate a 64bit Windows for me to install and test with, I'd be willing to do that. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49b15498.9000...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: You're right---it's all what Python can do...and since you confirmed Python can work on 64-bit, then I'm virtually certain that Ed/Paul wouldn't change that! Maybe some company in the Pacific Northwest would get the idea to artificially limit the software to only work on 32-bit systems, so they could charge extra for the 64-bit version, but things like that would make me feel slimy I think. There really would be no reason for us to limit Dabo in such a fashion, and every reason not to. We *want* more users. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49b15559.6040...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
On Fri, March 6, 2009 11:37 am, Cathy Pountney wrote:
OMG .. that was hilarious!!! I especially liked the part when she said
she likes go-carts. I can totally relate!!! {g}
You can relate as the hot chick or the DotNet chick? ;-)
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Re: Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Bill Anderson billan...@gmail.com wrote: http://dotbloat.blogspot.com/2009/03/weekend-update-mac-vs-pc-commercial.html Eh Ted, I think you want this blog in the VFP blogroll Bill Really? Some tweeters screamed NSFW! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c9415b010903060913m17e685f3w302e0f2ad8fd1...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Fri, March 6, 2009 11:54 am, Paul McNett wrote: MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: You're right---it's all what Python can do...and since you confirmed Python can work on 64-bit, then I'm virtually certain that Ed/Paul wouldn't change that! Maybe some company in the Pacific Northwest would get the idea to artificially limit the software to only work on 32-bit systems, so they could charge extra for the 64-bit version, but things like that would make me feel slimy I think. There really would be no reason for us to limit Dabo in such a fashion, and every reason not to. We *want* more users. LOL! You'd never make it at M$ with that anti-capitalistic position, Paul! You gotta FORCE 'em to use your stuff and pay your dues, man...it's the M$ way! bg On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said Paul, you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales strategies? Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our money? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/32709.69.7.77.20.1236360154.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side
Entourage is part of the Mac Office 2004 and 2007 apps I have, but I did not know how robust they are in either version. I may run dual machines for a while to see how well Entourage handles my load. I do have an app that migrates Outlook to Entourage without me having to go through lots of Hoops Of Fire. Seems M$ would have built that kind of tool, but for a client project last year I ended up using I think it is a Tiny Machine or Little Machine app designed to do that. It worked well, only $10. Thanks! Gil -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:49 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side Gil Hale wrote: My concern is that in the Mac (or Linux) I may never get that kind of application reliability with the amount of info I retain. I need to know if anyone has any opinion about any Mac OS X compatible Mac eMail, Calendar and Contact Management apps, to include the Mac Office offerings, that they have heard or found to be reliable and easy to deal with as Outlook. You will be hard-pressed to replace Outlook, if you are really using all the integrated and proprietary email-calendar-contact management. However, I run my own mail server and use IMAP to store my email, and I've retained *all* non-spam email received and sent, with attachments, for over 10 years. It comes in at about 12 GB, all accessible almost instantaneously from whatever email client on whatever computer I elect to connect from. I back up my mail store, among other things, from my server in LA to my laptop here in Hollister nightly, using rsync. It takes like 3 minutes. I've long wanted to move to the next step of integrating an LDAP server for my contacts and iCal entries, but haven't gotten that far yet. So, while you won't find a drop-in replacement for Outlook for Linux or Mac (unless you go with Mac Entourage), the pieces are there just not integrated in a monolithic app. Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ndbblhfmcdkpegpoiiapeeeibkab@gilhale.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side
I may even start looking at a Google based solution and not worry about the OS on my own machine. Hmmm, the Dark Side of having choices is the research and decision part of it g... Gil -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:38 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Gil Hale wrote: but is still weighing in at a swollen 571Mg 571 milligrams? That's not very much? ;-) My concern is that in the Mac (or Linux) I may never get that kind of application reliability with the amount of info I retain. I need to know if anyone has any opinion about any Mac OS X compatible Mac eMail, Calendar and Contact Management apps, to include the Mac Office offerings, that they have heard or found to be reliable and easy to deal with as Outlook. I use the defaul Mail, iCal and Address Book. These sync up with my iPhone, making that part of my life much easier. But I use IMAP for email, so I don't have to worry about the local file size: all the mail resides on the server, even if my laptop were to end up in a wood chipper somewhere, I'd still have my mail. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ndbblhfmcdkpegpoiiapmeeibkab@gilhale.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Opinion Needed about 'The Dark Side'
On Fri, March 6, 2009 12:20 pm, Gil Hale wrote: I may even start looking at a Google based solution and not worry about the OS on my own machine. Hmmm, the Dark Side of having choices is the research and decision part of it g... After the recent Gmail problems, are you sure you want to do that? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/37609.69.7.77.20.1236360683.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Opinion Needed about 'The Dark Side'
No, but worth considering. Gil -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:31 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: Opinion Needed about 'The Dark Side' On Fri, March 6, 2009 12:20 pm, Gil Hale wrote: I may even start looking at a Google based solution and not worry about the OS on my own machine. Hmmm, the Dark Side of having choices is the research and decision part of it g... After the recent Gmail problems, are you sure you want to do that? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ndbblhfmcdkpegpoiiapeeejbkab@gilhale.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:22 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said Paul, you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales strategies? Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our money? Provide true value to customers, where people *want* to buy your products. The reason Word and Excel became such important products is that they made life easier for their users, and that was worth paying money for. How does Vista or XP or Win7 make your life easier than the previous version? How about the latest Office versus the previous Office? Is it worth the cost? Or do you feel compelled to pay for the upgrade because the old version will be rendered incompatible or insecure? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1f5f6c18-ae04-462b-bb0d-4ddbf798b...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side
Gil, I would use a professionally hosted email service (lots to choose from these days) and store all your email and calendar data on a remote server. This way you avoid the entire hassle of choosing a multi-platform email client and you free yourself of all the problems/risks associated with Outlook PST files. If you're paranoid (a guess!), you can do weekly backups and/or redirect your incoming email to multiple email services so you have a backup if your primary service fails in some way. Another advantage of this approach is that you can access your mail and calendar across any one of the growing family of workstations you seem to be accumulatingg. Malcolm - Original message - From: Gil Hale g...@gilhale.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:29:15 -0500 Subject: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side Greetings all! I am seeking input from my associates re: a project that is actually for me this time. I picked up a Mac Mini the other month, and have yet to deploy it in my office, although that was the intent. It kind of made its way into the living room for testing with the new NetFlix capability of using both IE and FireFox, and now for both Windows XP/Vista and Mac OS X, for on demand movies over a high speed Internet connection. It has worked well for that purpose with the wide-screen TV/Monitor, but represents a huge waste of the investment into the Mac Mini, as well as not allowing me to deploy the Mac where I intended it to go anyway. The other week Lynda (wife) ordered an Asus 900 Netbook (Notebook) from BestBuy.com. Initially I snickered as usually these Netbooks are so pathetic in terms of delivering the kind of punch I felt I need. But when it arrived I set it up and am now a believer that weaker CPUs with the 1Gb of RAM this unit shipped with (I still pumped it up to 2Gb RAM, just cuz), with a 120Gb HDD, can actually be useful. I was so impressed with the unit, and the Sale Price of $249, that I ordered two more, but with the Atom CPU for hyperthreading capability as opposed to her Celeron M CPU. I also got 160Gb HDD and a 10 screen as opposed to her 9 screen. I must admit that I like her smaller unit more, just out of appreciation of its power in such a nice and small package. Also, the Atom CPU runs at 1.6Ghz as opposed to her Celeron M at 900Mhz. The Atom handles hyerthreading. But side by side I can not detect any practical difference in performance, although I am still running with the basic 1Gb RAM for now. Okay, on to the matter at hand now that you have some background... I figured the Asus 1000HD unit I got for myself (the other one is for a friend of ours) will never replace my current HP notebook I travel with (1024 x 768 for the HP notebook vs 1024 x 600 for the Asus netbook), but will come in handy for demo and projects I do not want to run on my regular notebook for whatever reason. When not in use I plan to use the Asus with NetFlix instead of the Mac Mini, so I can now deploy the Mac where initially intended - as my replacement primary eMail and communication PC instead of replacing my older AMD 1800 PC used for that purpose with yet another Windows PC. So, the question... My AMD 1800, 2Gb RAM, eMail/Communication PC is running M$ Office 2000 with Outlook being used for my eMail, Calendar and Contact Management management. I have both Mac Office 2004 and Mac Office 2007 available to use with the Mac Mini. I retain eMails, with attachments, form clients for very long periods of time. My Outlook.pst file is archived via Outlook every few months, but is still weighing in at a swollen 571Mg in size! And it is working well. For all the bad things I could say about M$, I must admit I have never had any problems with Outlook 2000, other than performance at rare times - but that is obviously self-inflicted given the size of the Outlook.pst file. My concern is that in the Mac (or Linux) I may never get that kind of application reliability with the amount of info I retain. I need to know if anyone has any opinion about any Mac OS X compatible Mac eMail, Calendar and Contact Management apps, to include the Mac Office offerings, that they have heard or found to be reliable and easy to deal with as Outlook. Many thanks in advance. Gil Gilbert M. Hale g...@gilhale.com 585-359-8085 - Office (Rolls To Cellular) 585-202-4341 - Cellular/VoiceMail --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1236360867.23132.1304035...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated
Re: Opinion Needed about 'The Dark Side'
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: On Fri, March 6, 2009 12:20 pm, Gil Hale wrote: I may even start looking at a Google based solution and not worry about the OS on my own machine. Hmmm, the Dark Side of having choices is the research and decision part of it g... After the recent Gmail problems, are you sure you want to do that? IMO it is a *very bad idea* to trust your data to an outside company, even Google. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49b161be.4050...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Opinion Needed about 'The Dark Side'
On Fri, March 6, 2009 12:47 pm, Paul McNett wrote: MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: After the recent Gmail problems, are you sure you want to do that? IMO it is a *very bad idea* to trust your data to an outside company, even Google. So it's safe to say that you're all about keeping data local (or on the company LAN), right? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/58969.69.7.77.20.1236362643.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:59 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On Wed, March 4, 2009 11:40 am, Stephen Russell wrote: Maybe the USA got tired of buying cheap shit to fill big houses? Americans (unfortunately) will never get tired of buying cheap shit (for any purpose). Sigh ,chances are 8 to 10 you're writing this on a pc made in China, if not try Taiwan - Are you in favor of us closing out borders for imports then? we only bring in parts from SE Asia and assemble them here? Isn't that the Ikea model? ;- What we need to do is figure out how to ease the investors who are use to ungodly returns back into a normal transaction. When this is accomplished we will get funding to buy up what the banks can't move these days. When will that happen? Late summer I hope. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Independent Contractor Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c4313dbe0903061001gf4f610cye938f8ce8b7ba...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] How Low Can it Go?
What exactly is sh*t? * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Adam Buckland adam.buckl...@eurohill.com wrote: From: Adam Buckland adam.buckl...@eurohill.com Subject: RE: [OT] How Low Can it Go? To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 4:00 AM God you spout shit Madigan -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 March 2009 21:23 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] How Low Can it Go? No trust in Obama. Don't elect a boy to do a man's job. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: [OT] How Low Can it Go? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:18 PM So DOW is down another ~280 pts down today. Boy those bail outs are doing wonders. Stimulus package is having an immediate and dramatic effect, I'd say. Since the election just 5 mos ago, DOW is down over ~30%. Another way to look at it: Since the Dems took control of congress in January 2007, DOW is down 47%, SP down 52%. It hit a peak just before January 2008, and is down 51.21 % since then, and the SP is down 54.25% since that peak. So about a year after Congress changed hands, the tumble began. You can blame Bush if you want, but Presidents are not kings, and you can't ignore all-important the roll Congress plays in setting the agenda and controlling the purse strings either, and they came in with the express purpose to change economic policies and priorities. Boy, they did exactly that. Now with Obama, it's tantamount to a complete reversal. If you look at the time period 2001 to 2007, the market was up overall 15.82% (SP +8.16%). Keep in mind after 9/11, the market dropped significantly due to recession and terrorist attacks. From the low point in 2002 to the day the Congress switched to democrat control in 2007, the market was up 55.74% (SP +67.68%). As of today we're about 8.5% lower than we were at the low point in 2002. Also, since Sept 18, when a curious series of computerized trades sucked $550 billion from US money markets in the span of an hour and a half before being halted, the DOW is down about 42%. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/011101c99dd7$f476b6c0$dd6424...@r r.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/977373.13430...@web31405.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] How Low Can it Go?
It's all true, you're just to ignorant to realize it. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [OT] How Low Can it Go? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 4:18 AM Aint that the truth... and he never gets constipated. It's a constant flow or little nuggets. But if you want a LOT of diahorrea just look for Bob! -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 7:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] How Low Can it Go? God you spout shit Madigan -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 March 2009 21:23 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] How Low Can it Go? No trust in Obama. Don't elect a boy to do a man's job. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: [OT] How Low Can it Go? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:18 PM So DOW is down another ~280 pts down today. Boy those bail outs are doing wonders. Stimulus package is having an immediate and dramatic effect, I'd say. Since the election just 5 mos ago, DOW is down over ~30%. Another way to look at it: Since the Dems took control of congress in January 2007, DOW is down 47%, SP down 52%. It hit a peak just before January 2008, and is down 51.21 % since then, and the SP is down 54.25% since that peak. So about a year after Congress changed hands, the tumble began. You can blame Bush if you want, but Presidents are not kings, and you can't ignore all-important the roll Congress plays in setting the agenda and controlling the purse strings either, and they came in with the express purpose to change economic policies and priorities. Boy, they did exactly that. Now with Obama, it's tantamount to a complete reversal. If you look at the time period 2001 to 2007, the market was up overall 15.82% (SP +8.16%). Keep in mind after 9/11, the market dropped significantly due to recession and terrorist attacks. From the low point in 2002 to the day the Congress switched to democrat control in 2007, the market was up 55.74% (SP +67.68%). As of today we're about 8.5% lower than we were at the low point in 2002. Also, since Sept 18, when a curious series of computerized trades sucked $550 billion from US money markets in the span of an hour and a half before being halted, the DOW is down about 42%. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/011101c99dd7$f476b6c0$dd6424...@r r.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/720335.15138...@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
The EU? Who's talking about the EU? * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 4:24 AM On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: I hope these rankings aren't news to anyone coz the rest of us knew who were the biggest three economies for a long time. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 3:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession We are the big dog and Belgium is the bacteria in a flea's stomach. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice Here! Here! Latest studies say the U.S. is the biggest, Japan is second, China third. And once again one forgets about the EU whose economy is bigger than the US one A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc710903060124i663938f0je4a2e500d883c...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/933413.80486...@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Doctor Doctor
Doctor, Doctor The pastor asked if anyone in the congregation would like to express Praise for answered prayers. A lady stood and walked to the podium. She said, I have a Praise. Two months ago, my husband, Tom, had a terrible bicycle wreck and his scrotum was completely crushed. The pain was excruciating and the doctors didn't know if they could help him. You could hear a muffled gasp from the men in the congregation. Tom was unable to hold me or the children, she went on, and every move caused him terrible pain. We prayed as the doctors performed a delicate operation, and it turned out they were able to piece together the crushed remnants of Tom's scrotum, and wrap wire around it to hold it in place. Again, the men in the congregation were unnerved and squirmed uncomfortably as they imagined the horrible surgery performed on Tom. Now, she announced in a quavering voice, thank the Lord, Tom is out of the hospital and the doctors say that with time, his scrotum should recover completely. All the men sighed with relief. The pastor rose and tentatively asked if anyone else had something to say. A man stood up and walked slowly to the podium. He said, I'm Tom. The entire congregation held its breath. I just want to tell my wife that the word is sternum. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Independent Contractor Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c4313dbe0903061019o36dc0b86s90109b7fc9df5...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Opinion Needed about 'The Dark Side'
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: On Fri, March 6, 2009 12:47 pm, Paul McNett wrote: MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: After the recent Gmail problems, are you sure you want to do that? IMO it is a *very bad idea* to trust your data to an outside company, even Google. So it's safe to say that you're all about keeping data local (or on the company LAN), right? Keeping my data on systems I control completely (have root access to). Sure, the hosting company could physically crack in, but I've got to trust that they wouldn't do that. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49b16d52.6000...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
At 12:22 PM 3/6/2009 -0500, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: ... On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said Paul, you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales strategies? Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our money? How about Steve, you @!...@! idiot di...@$* !$$-hole. I don't give a flying #...@$! if you make any money at all (well maybe I wouldn't use those terms). Hell, just split your banked 50 Billion amongst your employees and close up your house. The rest of the world will be a lot better off for it in the long run. But if you really want to keep going, you're going to have to change your business model completely. Fire 95% of your lawyers, make all your software free, and switch to a services, vice product, company. Who knows, if you did all that you may actually build a user-base instead of the current slave-base. :-) -Charlie ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5.2.0.9.2.20090306135740.03544...@incoming.verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Print sometimes fails using IE Control embeded in VFP form
I have a vfp form which embeds the IE control on it, and everyone once in a while users are seeing the following error when trying to Print from it.. OLE IDispatch exception code 0 from ?: The callee (server [not server application]) is not available and disappeared; all connections are invalid. The call did not execute. Anyone have any ideas on this? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/20090306185857.37deb98...@marge.leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Print sometimes fails using IE Control embeded in VFP form
Are these specific users using a Wi-Fi connection to get to the source you've pointed them to? -Original Message- From: Steve Ellenoff Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:59 PM I have a vfp form which embeds the IE control on it, and everyone once in a while users are seeing the following error when trying to Print from it.. OLE IDispatch exception code 0 from ?: The callee (server [not server application]) is not available and disappeared; all connections are invalid. The call did not execute. Anyone have any ideas on this? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000601c99e8d$97486050$c5d920...@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Doctor Doctor
Thanks, __steven -- I, for one could use more joke, er, serious medical information. On Mar 6, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: Doctor, Doctor The pastor asked if anyone in the congregation would like to express ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/65bd8f68-1e45-4d43-98f4-eb0bc82b8...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Opinion Needed about The Dark Side
At 08:37 AM 3/6/2009 -0600, Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Gil Hale wrote: but is still weighing in at a swollen 571Mg 571 milligrams? That's not very much? ;-) That reminds me... There was this idiot manager (a .Net lover so you can imagine). Anyway, he said his laptop was too heavy and wanted me to make it lighter. I said, You could try deleting all the temporary and unused files. He said, Great, I'll do that, thanks. And he trotted back to his cube where all the MS Certified blah blah plaques were hanging on the walls. sigh -Charlie ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5.2.0.9.2.20090306141022.034a5...@incoming.verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Print sometimes fails using IE Control embeded in VFP form
No, it's all from client machines on the LAN hitting the website also hosted on the LAN. The only complicated part is that some users log in via Terminal Services, but I'm not sure this problem is exclusive to them. At 01:58 PM 03/06/2009, you wrote: Are these specific users using a Wi-Fi connection to get to the source you've pointed them to? -Original Message- From: Steve Ellenoff Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:59 PM I have a vfp form which embeds the IE control on it, and everyone once in a while users are seeing the following error when trying to Print from it.. OLE IDispatch exception code 0 from ?: The callee (server [not server application]) is not available and disappeared; all connections are invalid. The call did not execute. Anyone have any ideas on this? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/20090306190744.5da1098...@marge.leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
They do NOT make your life easier/better. On the contrary, they make your life worse. - Original Message - From: Ed Leafe To: ProFox Email List Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET) On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:22 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said Paul, you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales strategies? Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our money? Provide true value to customers, where people *want* to buy your products. The reason Word and Excel became such important products is that they made life easier for their users, and that was worth paying money for. How does Vista or XP or Win7 make your life easier than the previous version? How about the latest Office versus the previous Office? Is it worth the cost? Or do you feel compelled to pay for the upgrade because the old version will be rendered incompatible or insecure? -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/06c601c99e8f$54fe3e70$8600a...@w2k3s02 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
On Fri, March 6, 2009 11:37 am, Cathy Pountney wrote:
OMG .. that was hilarious!!! I especially liked the part when she said
she likes go-carts. I can totally relate!!! {g}
You can relate as the hot chick or the DotNet chick? ;-)
I can relate as the go-kart lovin' FoxPro chick
Cathy
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Re: Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
On Mar 6, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Cathy Pountney wrote: I can relate as the go-kart lovin' FoxPro chick There's still such a thing as go-karts??? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a70b6acb-756d-4cba-a414-02998e384...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Legal bill includes postage (was Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET))
On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:04 pm, Charlie Coleman wrote: How about Steve, you @!...@! idiot di...@$* !$$-hole. I don't give a flying #...@$! if you make any money at all (well maybe I wouldn't use those terms). Hell, just split your banked 50 Billion amongst your employees and close up your house. The rest of the world will be a lot better off for it in the long run. But if you really want to keep going, you're going to have to change your business model completely. Fire 95% of your lawyers, make all your software free, and switch to a services, vice product, company. Who knows, if you did all that you may actually build a user-base instead of the current slave-base. :-) -Charlie Reminds me of my recent angst with my lawyer's bill. The guy charges me 0.6hrs at $195/hr to go to the bank and cash an escrow account for credit towards my $12k legal bill. Ok, I'm not objecting to that. But when he charged me $0.56 (yes, 56 cents) for postage costs...well, that was like salt in the wound. The guy is good, but at that rate, don't you think they could not charge the postage? Ugh. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/16550.69.7.77.20.1236368823.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Legal bill includes postage (was Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET))
Cashing a check? * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [OT] Legal bill includes postage (was Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)) To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 2:47 PM On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:04 pm, Charlie Coleman wrote: How about Steve, you @!...@! idiot di...@$* !$$-hole. I don't give a flying #...@$! if you make any money at all (well maybe I wouldn't use those terms). Hell, just split your banked 50 Billion amongst your employees and close up your house. The rest of the world will be a lot better off for it in the long run. But if you really want to keep going, you're going to have to change your business model completely. Fire 95% of your lawyers, make all your software free, and switch to a services, vice product, company. Who knows, if you did all that you may actually build a user-base instead of the current slave-base. :-) -Charlie Reminds me of my recent angst with my lawyer's bill. The guy charges me 0.6hrs at $195/hr to go to the bank and cash an escrow account for credit towards my $12k legal bill. Ok, I'm not objecting to that. But when he charged me $0.56 (yes, 56 cents) for postage costs...well, that was like salt in the wound. The guy is good, but at that rate, don't you think they could not charge the postage? Ugh. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/16550.69.7.77.20.1236368823.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/726619.82316...@web31405.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Opinion Needed about 'The Dark Side'
On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:13 pm, Charlie Coleman wrote: That reminds me... There was this idiot manager (a .Net lover so you can imagine). Anyway, he said his laptop was too heavy and wanted me to make it lighter. I said, You could try deleting all the temporary and unused files. He said, Great, I'll do that, thanks. And he trotted back to his cube where all the MS Certified blah blah plaques were hanging on the walls. sigh Sounds like a Dilbert comic strip! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18524.69.7.77.20.1236369004.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:34 pm, Cathy Pountney wrote: You can relate as the hot chick or the DotNet chick? ;-) I can relate as the go-kart lovin' FoxPro chick (Thinking fondly of the CatWoman costume at WhilFest...) ;-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/19372.69.7.77.20.1236369075.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] How Low Can it Go?
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: What exactly is sh*t? Something you're full of ? A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc710903061249s4a2a83a9y78a2d2d0a9674...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
Sorry - I don't agree! The first time I used a word processor (Wordwise on the BBC Micro in 1980) I was incredibly impressed by how much easier it made producing a legible good looking document. I then went through the WordStar and WordPervert phases - when I saw Word for Windows for the first time it blew me away and increased my productivity several times over. I hated Office 2007 when I first saw it but had to use it in order to demonstrate it to a class; I soon realised that it was actually easier to use because the various menu options are grouped in a more logical manner. Open Office is great but does not have the functionality I need - specifically mail merge automation from within VFP. (I've not tried that with 2007 yet, that's still on 2000 - if it ain't broke don't fix it g) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 They do NOT make your life easier/better. On the contrary, they make your life worse. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e4b37728efa64660ba6008579ff79...@wessex1 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
On Fri, March 6, 2009 1:01 pm, Stephen Russell wrote: Are you in favor of us closing out borders for imports then? we only bring in parts from SE Asia and assemble them here? Isn't that the Ikea model? ;- What we need to do is figure out how to ease the investors who are use to ungodly returns back into a normal transaction. When this is accomplished we will get funding to buy up what the banks can't move these days. When will that happen? Late summer I hope. Protectionism is NOT a dirty word. Look at them now trying to get everyone to buy US cars. GM seems doomed to failure (as many said it was). How much money will we have wasted in this bailout when (not if) GM goes into bankruptcy? Please tell me absolutely NO bonuses were paid out. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18084.69.7.77.20.1236374527.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:15 PM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: Sorry - I don't agree! The first time I used a word processor (Wordwise on the BBC Micro in 1980) I was incredibly impressed by how much easier it made producing a legible good looking document. I then went through the WordStar and WordPervert phases I did like WP ... Especially the reveal codes bit A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc710903061316l151cc371u439ae39dd8f23...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Legal bill includes postage (was Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET))
On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:42 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: Cashing a check? $5k was held over from the mortgage settlement to be debated as to who gets it. Long story short, I did (as it was only fair, much to the other side's hate), and I had told my lawyer to apply that to my legal bill. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/20093.69.7.77.20.1236374720.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: Protectionism is NOT a dirty word. oc not, being simple isn't that bad either A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc710903061319t255150dbk93ad32172458e...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On Fri, March 6, 2009 1:01 pm, Stephen Russell wrote: Are you in favor of us closing out borders for imports then? we only bring in parts from SE Asia and assemble them here? Isn't that the Ikea model? ;- What we need to do is figure out how to ease the investors who are use to ungodly returns back into a normal transaction. When this is accomplished we will get funding to buy up what the banks can't move these days. When will that happen? Late summer I hope. Protectionism is NOT a dirty word. Look at them now trying to get everyone to buy US cars. GM seems doomed to failure (as many said it was). How much money will we have wasted in this bailout when (not if) GM goes into bankruptcy? Please tell me absolutely NO bonuses were paid out. --- The GM retirement plan is guaranteed by the US government or so it seems from what I have read. If they fail, they still get paid by the tax payer instead at no loss. Sucks for the rest of us. Because of this little tidbit i think the government is trying real hard to duct tape them for the short run. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Independent Contractor Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c4313dbe0903061323n705e285chbc0de2f906cd2...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
Yes - that was good! The only real problem with WP was that when Windows came along they were too arrogant (at least that was my impression) to embrace the major advantage of Windows at that time which was that printer and displays were shared so you didn't have to install separate drivers for your printer and monitor for each application. Instead they insisted on printing via their install of the printer. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:15 PM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: Sorry - I don't agree! The first time I used a word processor (Wordwise on the BBC Micro in 1980) I was incredibly impressed by how much easier it made producing a legible good looking document. I then went through the WordStar and WordPervert phases I did like WP ... Especially the reveal codes bit ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4498f8c60b84441598bc0165a06a8...@wessex1 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: Yes - that was good! The only real problem with WP was that when Windows came along they were too arrogant (at least that was my impression) to embrace the major advantage of Windows at that time which was that printer and displays were shared so you didn't have to install separate drivers for your printer and monitor for each application. Instead they insisted on printing via their install of the printer. Oh i do agree about that one WP6 was a shambles . BTW you do know were MS got the ideas for word. Word wasn't the 1st real windows wordprocessor you know. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc710903061331h1542fd65s20eb925b07abb...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Updating foxpro from ASP .NET
Has anyone managed to update a foxpro table from ASP.net. If so how is the UPDATECOMMAND structured because the following does not seem to work. UpdateCommand=UPDATE trips SET trips.pickup = @FROM WHERE trips.id = @ID UpdateParameters asp:Parameter Type=String Name=PICKUP /asp:Parameter / asp:Parameter Type=Int32 Name=ID /asp:Parameter / /UpdateParameters /asp:SqlDataSource ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2bad68ee0903061347i2647cbc7le64d1e0942255...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
On Mar 6, 2009, at 3:22 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Protectionism is NOT a dirty word. No, it is a short-sighted, proven-failure policy. International equivalent of a 2-year-old covering his ears and yelling I don't hear you! Sorry, Michael -- history proves you wrong on this. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/aad64c03-b05a-4152-a942-2ca5d38b8...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Legal bill includes postage (was Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET))
I mean this guy has the nuts to charge you to deposit a check? * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: Re: [OT] Legal bill includes postage (was Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)) To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 4:25 PM On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:42 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: Cashing a check? $5k was held over from the mortgage settlement to be debated as to who gets it. Long story short, I did (as it was only fair, much to the other side's hate), and I had told my lawyer to apply that to my legal bill. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/20093.69.7.77.20.1236374720.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/792828.31865...@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession
Protectionism doesn't work, however, placing equal tariffs on incoming goods as our goods get put on our exports only seems fair. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Subject: Re: [OT] Australia on brink of recession To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 4:56 PM On Mar 6, 2009, at 3:22 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Protectionism is NOT a dirty word. No, it is a short-sighted, proven-failure policy. International equivalent of a 2-year-old covering his ears and yelling I don't hear you! Sorry, Michael -- history proves you wrong on this. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/aad64c03-b05a-4152-a942-2ca5d38b8...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/471526.98780...@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
I can relate as the go-kart lovin' FoxPro chick (Thinking fondly of the CatWoman costume at WhilFest...) ;-) I think it would be pretty difficult to drive a go-kart in that outfit with 5 heels! Cathy ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/004f01c99ea9$3d58a110$b809e3...@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
No - enlighten me g John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 BTW you do know were MS got the ideas for word. Word wasn't the 1st real windows wordprocessor you know. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ccb6925637b84e02896d873e4076a...@wessex1 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dot Net Chick vs. Ms. FoxPro
Cathy Pountney wrote: I can relate as the go-kart lovin' FoxPro chick (Thinking fondly of the CatWoman costume at WhilFest...) ;-) I think it would be pretty difficult to drive a go-kart in that outfit with 5 heels! But it'd sure be nice to see you try! SHEEP ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4566.69.251.251.31.1236380236.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
WordStar? Jerry -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:32 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET) On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: Yes - that was good! The only real problem with WP was that when Windows came along they were too arrogant (at least that was my impression) to embrace the major advantage of Windows at that time which was that printer and displays were shared so you didn't have to install separate drivers for your printer and monitor for each application. Instead they insisted on printing via their install of the printer. Oh i do agree about that one WP6 was a shambles . BTW you do know were MS got the ideas for word. Word wasn't the 1st real windows wordprocessor you know. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/79866c1bc5144cc0951446814330b...@laptop ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
I think Word is good. You missed the context. Ed asked how the new versions made your life easier than the previous version. - Original Message - From: John Weller To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: RE: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET) Sorry - I don't agree! The first time I used a word processor (Wordwise on the BBC Micro in 1980) I was incredibly impressed by how much easier it made producing a legible good looking document. I then went through the WordStar and WordPervert phases - when I saw Word for Windows for the first time it blew me away and increased my productivity several times over. I hated Office 2007 when I first saw it but had to use it in order to demonstrate it to a class; I soon realised that it was actually easier to use because the various menu options are grouped in a more logical manner. Open Office is great but does not have the functionality I need - specifically mail merge automation from within VFP. (I've not tried that with 2007 yet, that's still on 2000 - if it ain't broke don't fix it g) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 They do NOT make your life easier/better. On the contrary, they make your life worse. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/074801c99ebb$81e018b0$8600a...@w2k3s02 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Harbor Project (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:34 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On Fri, March 6, 2009 10:50 am, Dave Crozier wrote: For your information Clipper xbase language was made open source and is still in development in the Harbour project. http://www.harbour-project.org/ Looked at the sample code (e.g., http://www.harbour-project.org/samples/parseini.prg.html)did't like it! WTF would I want to do @SAYs in today's dev world? Sorrynot for me! @SAYs still work in VFP. Doesn't mean you have to use them! -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/17cad13c0903061644l6e2b17c9le90214796f250...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: Yes - that was good! The only real problem with WP was that when Windows came along they were too arrogant (at least that was my impression) to embrace the major advantage of Windows at that time which was that printer and displays were shared so you didn't have to install separate drivers for your printer and monitor for each application. Instead they insisted on printing via their install of the printer. Oh i do agree about that one WP6 was a shambles . BTW you do know were MS got the ideas for word. Word wasn't the 1st real windows wordprocessor you know. --- I used AmiPro and it was better than Word was at that time. Put WP to shame in the blue screen days. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Independent Contractor Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c4313dbe0903061947y2a9547abg7406914d4e278...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Harbor Project (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
Paul Hill wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:34 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://www.harbour-project.org/ Looked at the sample code (e.g., http://www.harbour-project.org/samples/parseini.prg.html)did't like it! WTF would I want to do @SAYs in today's dev world? Sorrynot for me! @SAYs still work in VFP. Doesn't mean you have to use them! Oh I knew they workedbut it's like you said...I just don't want to have to use them! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1834.69.251.251.31.1236405364.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
