RE: VFP Metro Interface
I too am retired do a bit of programming to keep my hand in and the brain ticking over. I wish I'd had PowerPoint when I was teaching! When I think of the hours I spent making OHP slides with a Rotring pen and stencil :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 Well into retirement now I'm using VFP9 to complete an App I began in about 1997, mainly for private use and to keep the old brain alive for as long as possible. Even then, I see so many changes, improvements and greater possibilities that have crept in over 10-12 years I've been away from serious programming. I shudder with excitement sometimes, wishing all this was happening when I was a younger man. :-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001c01cdc249$d7028480$85078d80$@johnweller.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Metro Interface
Gee John, Your school must have been rich ... you could actually afford Rotring pens... sheer bloody luxury! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: 14 November 2012 09:24 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface I too am retired do a bit of programming to keep my hand in and the brain ticking over. I wish I'd had PowerPoint when I was teaching! When I think of the hours I spent making OHP slides with a Rotring pen and stencil :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 Well into retirement now I'm using VFP9 to complete an App I began in about 1997, mainly for private use and to keep the old brain alive for as long as possible. Even then, I see so many changes, improvements and greater possibilities that have crept in over 10-12 years I've been away from serious programming. I shudder with excitement sometimes, wishing all this was happening when I was a younger man. :-) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bd031ecabf2b60499200aab3dbb4a999012b2be...@ex-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Metro Interface
OHP's? what was wrong with flipcharts? AndyD# P.S. actually we did have OHP's - one of the biggest bollockings I ever got was for not carrying extra projector bulbs - I *had* checked that the one in the projector and the spare both worked - not good enough - it must just never never ever happen that you get to a client and your OHP doesn't work! On 14/11/2012 10:29, Dave Crozier wrote: Gee John, Your school must have been rich ... you could actually afford Rotring pens... sheer bloody luxury! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: 14 November 2012 09:24 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface I too am retired do a bit of programming to keep my hand in and the brain ticking over. I wish I'd had PowerPoint when I was teaching! When I think of the hours I spent making OHP slides with a Rotring pen and stencil :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 Well into retirement now I'm using VFP9 to complete an App I began in about 1997, mainly for private use and to keep the old brain alive for as long as possible. Even then, I see so many changes, improvements and greater possibilities that have crept in over 10-12 years I've been away from serious programming. I shudder with excitement sometimes, wishing all this was happening when I was a younger man. :-) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a37687.8070...@hawthorncottage.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Metro Interface
This was in the RAF in the 70s when I was an instructor on the Vulcan. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 Gee John, Your school must have been rich ... you could actually afford Rotring pens... sheer bloody luxury! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001701cdc27b$3c079bf0$b416d3d0$@johnweller.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Modal window opens behind Modeless
Ken Dibble wrote on 2012-11-13: This only happens for one customer on one workstation. Then there would have to be more to the story. Customer is fat-fingering something, or has some funky other software running, or can't accurately describe what's happening. The only other possibility that comes to mind is a low-level timing issue--not a VFP timer--that could happen if you're running separate exes or apps between the two forms. I've seen weird stuff happen with one VFP exe calling another VFP exe--things seem to happen out of sequence between them. A sequence that runs in the expected order on most machines runs in a different order on one or two. But I've never seen it with one form calling a simple prg in the same process. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org Ken, I recall that type of timing between two EXEs before. I only call functions in external EXEs these days. Or launch them to run as a separate process. I'm still waiting for additional feedback from the client. Me - Tech - email - client - etc... Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000301cdc27b$44423cd0$ccc6b670$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Metro Interface
It's sad that the remaining one probably won't be able to fly again next year due to lack of funds. Mind you, when certain of the committee members are taking out salaries in excess of £70K when most of the work is done freely by volunteers then you can't really expect people to contribute. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: 14 November 2012 15:18 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface This was in the RAF in the 70s when I was an instructor on the Vulcan. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 Gee John, Your school must have been rich ... you could actually afford Rotring pens... sheer bloody luxury! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bd031ecabf2b60499200aab3dbb4a999012b2bf...@ex-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Hotmail, Junk Mail Email Pull...
Hey folks, Hopefully this is a Quick one. I use Hotmail, but almost never access it - and I do what I have heard others on this list do - use it as a Junk Mail address - like signing up for some kind of free Net services or a trial service. I did one, and it claims to have sent me a msg to my Hotmail - but, I don't see it - not even in Junk. Was figuring I just needed to try Pulling the e-mail - like forcing it to Receive/Retrieve msgs. But, unlike Outlook Thunderbird - I can't seem to find this Pull function. Can anyone point me in the right direction? TIA, -K- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3c09a.7040...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. --- A little late to the response, but done. Thanks much for all you've done for us and others. Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000e01cdc286$36158a80$a2409f80$@h2officesolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Hotmail, Junk Mail Email Pull...
Kurt, Why not use Mailinator.com you simply say your email address is anything@mailinator.com and then go onto mailinator, key in your anything as the username and the emails sent to it can be viewed and deleted. The system holds emails for 7 days (I think) unless you delete them first and also there are loads of alternate addresses you can use other tthan Mailinator.com. What are you using to access your Hotmail? Phones will usually use Push and PC's normally pull email but I'm not sure Hotmail still has Pop3 access. If you are using a browser to access Hotmail then you shouldn't have to do anything other than refres the page. My guess is that the people who you sent the hotmail address to won't accept it as being legitimate. Lots of companies will not accept Hotmail addresses. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: 14 November 2012 16:03 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Hotmail, Junk Mail Email Pull... Hey folks, Hopefully this is a Quick one. I use Hotmail, but almost never access it - and I do what I have heard others on this list do - use it as a Junk Mail address - like signing up for some kind of free Net services or a trial service. I did one, and it claims to have sent me a msg to my Hotmail - but, I don't see it - not even in Junk. Was figuring I just needed to try Pulling the e-mail - like forcing it to Receive/Retrieve msgs. But, unlike Outlook Thunderbird - I can't seem to find this Pull function. Can anyone point me in the right direction? TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bd031ecabf2b60499200aab3dbb4a999012b2bf...@ex-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Google data center
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.petapixel.com/2012/10/17/google-lets-photographer-into-secretive-data-centers-beautiful-photos-ensue/ A+ jml Man, talk about going into the belly of the Beast -- Matt Jarvis Eugene, Oregon USA ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAPT54rYkRzu5KikOGbU48ZezkxyfXkgZ9=kxa8qh-v6knzt...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Hotmail, Junk Mail Email Pull...
Hey Dave, Thanks for the input. Yes - I'm simply using the regular Webmail access - and I did Refresh on the webpage Numerous times. I can understand if a co. doesn't want to accept a Hotmail address, although that's frustrating - since they did NOT even Say that this was the case - and simply stated that an e-mail was sent to me! But - at this point - I shall probably just assume U R right - and that they blocked an e-mail being sent to me, and just not bother with the thing I was trying to sign up for... Thanks again! -K- On 11/14/2012 11:41 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: Kurt, Why not use Mailinator.com you simply say your email address is anything@mailinator.com and then go onto mailinator, key in your anything as the username and the emails sent to it can be viewed and deleted. The system holds emails for 7 days (I think) unless you delete them first and also there are loads of alternate addresses you can use other tthan Mailinator.com. What are you using to access your Hotmail? Phones will usually use Push and PC's normally pull email but I'm not sure Hotmail still has Pop3 access. If you are using a browser to access Hotmail then you shouldn't have to do anything other than refres the page. My guess is that the people who you sent the hotmail address to won't accept it as being legitimate. Lots of companies will not accept Hotmail addresses. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: 14 November 2012 16:03 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Hotmail, Junk Mail Email Pull... Hey folks, Hopefully this is a Quick one. I use Hotmail, but almost never access it - and I do what I have heard others on this list do - use it as a Junk Mail address - like signing up for some kind of free Net services or a trial service. I did one, and it claims to have sent me a msg to my Hotmail - but, I don't see it - not even in Junk. Was figuring I just needed to try Pulling the e-mail - like forcing it to Receive/Retrieve msgs. But, unlike Outlook Thunderbird - I can't seem to find this Pull function. Can anyone point me in the right direction? TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3cd30.1090...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Google data center
Yeah - maybe I should apply for the job of riding that bike around and looking for leaks in the Pipes! :-) But - they sure were some GREAT PICS! Who would have thought So Much Tech could be So COLORFUL! -K- On 11/14/2012 12:05 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:53 AM, M Jarvis brewda...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.petapixel.com/2012/10/17/google-lets-photographer-into-secretive-data-centers-beautiful-photos-ensue/ A+ jml Man, talk about going into the belly of the Beast --- Look at all those jobs! Didn't see a soul. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3d3ed.7070...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
What are the specs of the drive? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/dccaf672-b017-4172-93ea-013eddcc7...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50A3EA5A.9060006@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4uskgu84tsw8axfb6-g20fc_pmztyywjvhe1d8npyo...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
SATA Seagate 500 GB Need any other spec's? -K- On 11/14/2012 2:08 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: What are the specs of the drive? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ede0.5050...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- On 11/14/2012 2:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50A3EA5A.9060006@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ee83.4020...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Linux has tools to check and fix the drive as well. Might give you an idea as to what the problem is. Trying to boot the drive in another computer is rarely a good or successful idea. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- On 11/14/2012 2:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50A3EA5A.9060006@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/aa0b3fb5-f6f9-4e7e-a26f-810f79860...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Where I can find out how to make the Linux Boot CD. Also - U got me wrong - I did NOT want to Boot from the Bad HD - just attach it and be able to access it from the OS after it was attached. I attempted to run the ChkDsk from the Dead PC - but, it wouldn't work... -K- On 11/14/2012 2:20 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Linux has tools to check and fix the drive as well. Might give you an idea as to what the problem is. Trying to boot the drive in another computer is rarely a good or successful idea. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- On 11/14/2012 2:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50A3EA5A.9060006@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3f0f5.6060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Ubuntu.com knopper.net You can download an ISO from either then you can burn that to a CD or flash drive and boot your computer, hopefully, from there. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Where I can find out how to make the Linux Boot CD. Also - U got me wrong - I did NOT want to Boot from the Bad HD - just attach it and be able to access it from the OS after it was attached. I attempted to run the ChkDsk from the Dead PC - but, it wouldn't work... -K- On 11/14/2012 2:20 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Linux has tools to check and fix the drive as well. Might give you an idea as to what the problem is. Trying to boot the drive in another computer is rarely a good or successful idea. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- On 11/14/2012 2:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50A3EA5A.9060006@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/df2e0a34-62f2-4887-81c2-b7348425b...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Kurt, It's not my favorite process, but I did successfully (knock on wood) reinstall a WinXP system on a BSOD computer last week. Something in the boot process was causing it to freeze during boot. I just booted to a WinXP CD, got into the Recovery Console. Here's a link to the article that provided the info I used. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/10-things-you-can-do-when-windows-xp-wont-boot/6031733 Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:28 PM Where I can find out how to make the Linux Boot CD. Also - U got me wrong - I did NOT want to Boot from the Bad HD - just attach it and be able to access it from the OS after it was attached. I attempted to run the ChkDsk from the Dead PC - but, it wouldn't work... -K- On 11/14/2012 2:20 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Linux has tools to check and fix the drive as well. Might give you an idea as to what the problem is. Trying to boot the drive in another computer is rarely a good or successful idea. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- On 11/14/2012 2:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50A3EA5A.9060006@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3f37b.6050...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
You might want to get a kit that allows you to connect to the sata drive from your laptop via usb. I ordered one of those off the internet and used it to pull data from a drive just a few weeks ago. John Harvey -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:01 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/075201cdc2a0$5d136340$173a29c0$@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Thanks Mike - I think I am going to try this first. I attempt recovery before - but, had no actual guided instructions - and things were not clear as to what to do. Will give this a shot report back... -K- On 11/14/2012 2:39 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Kurt, It's not my favorite process, but I did successfully (knock on wood) reinstall a WinXP system on a BSOD computer last week. Something in the boot process was causing it to freeze during boot. I just booted to a WinXP CD, got into the Recovery Console. Here's a link to the article that provided the info I used. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/10-things-you-can-do-when-windows-xp-wont-boot/6031733 Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:28 PM Where I can find out how to make the Linux Boot CD. Also - U got me wrong - I did NOT want to Boot from the Bad HD - just attach it and be able to access it from the OS after it was attached. I attempted to run the ChkDsk from the Dead PC - but, it wouldn't work... -K- On 11/14/2012 2:20 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Linux has tools to check and fix the drive as well. Might give you an idea as to what the problem is. Trying to boot the drive in another computer is rarely a good or successful idea. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- On 11/14/2012 2:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50A3EA5A.9060006@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50a3ea5a.9060...@optonline.net [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3f547.8030...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated
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Actually - I already have one of those kinda connections - its Kingwin. But, upon connecting it - my OS would NOT see the drive! That's why I posted here to begin with... :-) -K- On 11/14/2012 2:43 PM, John Harvey wrote: You might want to get a kit that allows you to connect to the sata drive from your laptop via usb. I ordered one of those off the internet and used it to pull data from a drive just a few weeks ago. John Harvey -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:01 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a3f839.6030...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/DF1EEF11E586A64FB54A97F22A8BD0442179E14294@ACKBWDDQH1.artfact.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Bart PE (Preinstalled Environment) can be copied to a cd the version I use boots from the cd into XP - the preinstalled os on the cd you can see your files on the existing drive copy to a networked pc and all sorts of stuff http://tinyurl.co m/ba8g87h Carl Lindner -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:00 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Actually - I already have one of those kinda connections - its Kingwin. But, upon connecting it - my OS would NOT see the drive! That's why I posted here to begin with... :-) -K- On 11/14/2012 2:43 PM, John Harvey wrote: You might want to get a kit that allows you to connect to the sata drive from your laptop via usb. I ordered one of those off the internet and used it to pull data from a drive just a few weeks ago. John Harvey -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:01 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/!!AAAYABb9FJb8qxRMvnUzapjTz2QCiQAAEN2F125pZeNAqmTSxUzXxxsBAA==@bdos.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a4001d.3040...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a40282.8020...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch of options on a blue screen. I actually let is sit there - while I was on the phone with a Dr. office - but, while I was still on the phone - its like after a period of time - the PC just Shut Down or powered off! I find that strange - and did NOT Think that should happen while I was at that Blue screen. Does that sound strange to U as well? Maybe signaling a Deeper problem? FYI - I am by No Means a PC HW expert. Although, this machine with the problems - it actually IS One that I built a number of years ago... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:43 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a408cd.4030...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Safe Mode may boot, which would be the goal of the exercise as I assume you're mainly interested in retrieving data, not applications. :-) -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:34 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/DF1EEF11E586A64FB54A97F22A8BD0442179E142BA@ACKBWDDQH1.artfact.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
My nose smells a power supply issue. I've also seen CPUs that will sense a problem and shut the system down...usually heat related...kind of a self-preservation thing. I'm feeling warm, Dave. Have you actually opened the system and checked for massive wads of lint and dust and dirt caked on the CPU heatsink...power supply fan screen, etc.? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch of options on a blue screen. I actually let is sit there - while I was on the phone with a Dr. office - but, while I was still on the phone - its like after a period of time - the PC just Shut Down or powered off! I find that strange - and did NOT Think that should happen while I was at that Blue screen. Does that sound strange to U as well? Maybe signaling a Deeper problem? FYI - I am by No Means a PC HW expert. Although, this machine with the problems - it actually IS One that I built a number of years ago... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:43 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a40a70.3070...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
On 11/14/12 11:47, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. Win XP did not support SATA in the original release - it was added in SP 1. I found that out the hard way when I upgraded my motherboard, adding an SATA DVD drive, and attempted a repair installation from my original CD. Can't access the drive, so can't boot from the CD! If you don't have SP1 already on your XP CD, that's probably the reason. You bought the SATA after you installed SP1, so it worked. I ended up buying a VISTA 64-bit and starting over. Dan ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a40e5a.9070...@san.rr.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
FoxCodePlus and cursors fields
I downloaded and installed FoxCodePlus from the VFPx site today. I decided to try this out specifically for feature #6. Fields in write-time and run-time. Tables fields are also included in the intellisense. The type of the field is displayed in the tooltip. Note: Fields tables created by SELECT - SQL command are not supported. The image below shows a create cursor statement above where the intellisense is displaying the fields. Has anyone gotten this to work? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000801cdc2b0$9246f990$b6d4ecb0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
In case you have'nt considered it yet, checkout the computer's battery or/and the boot settings in the computer's BIOS. PabloSr Sea cortés, ande con cuidado, edúquese lo más que pueda, respete para que lo respeten, y que Dios nos ampare a todos! Dra. A.M. Polo * -Original Message- * From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech- * boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dan Covill * Sent: November 14, 2012 4:34 PM * To: profoxt...@leafe.com * Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... * * On 11/14/12 11:47, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: * Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was * my main PC - but, it * died several months ago. I have my laptop - * which has been my primary * computing device for quite a while now - but, * the desktop PC has some * stuff on there that's not on my laptop. * * Win XP did not support SATA in the original * release - it was added in SP 1. I found that out the * hard way when I upgraded my motherboard, * adding an SATA DVD drive, and attempted a * repair installation from my original CD. Can't * access the drive, so can't boot from the CD! * * If you don't have SP1 already on your XP CD, * that's probably the reason. * You bought the SATA after you installed SP1, so it * worked. * * I ended up buying a VISTA 64-bit and starting * over. * * Dan * * __ * _ * Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com * Subscription Maintenance: * http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox * OT-free version of this list: * http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtec * h * Searchable Archive: * http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox * This message: * http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50A40E * 5a.9070...@san.rr.com * ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, * are the opinions of the author, and do not * constitute legal or medical advice. This statement * is added to the messages for those lawyers who * are too stupid to see the obvious. * * Report [OT] Abuse: * http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50A40E5A.907070 * 2...@san.rr.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001001cdc2b1$d90ed400$8b2c7c00$@nycap.rr.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Kurt, As has been pointed out, it would be a VERY good thing to know which SP version your now-dead XP system was upgraded to. (Or maybe it was installed with SP1, 2, or 3.) You'll also need a CD that matches that level. I'm not 100%, but I think you can reinstall from an SP1 CD to an SP3 system, but not vice versa. If you've had the system for any length of time, and if you've been keeping it updated with patches, I can't imagine that you wouldn't have SP3 on it. Mike Original Message Subject: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:00 PM Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a4133e.90...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I've heard of and possibly HAD that problem before - heat shutdown - thought of it right after I sent that reply. I have case WIDE Open - dealing with this thing. And - right now - its driving me NUTS - as attempting to boot up gives different results almost every time. It DID boot to an OS select a little while ago - now - won't boot at ALL! Claims no Boot disk or something. I F'ing HATE HW problems - its always such a nightmare - and I can't afford new HW. May just shove it aside soon and come back 2 it in 2 months... -K- On 11/14/2012 4:17 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: My nose smells a power supply issue. I've also seen CPUs that will sense a problem and shut the system down...usually heat related...kind of a self-preservation thing. I'm feeling warm, Dave. Have you actually opened the system and checked for massive wads of lint and dust and dirt caked on the CPU heatsink...power supply fan screen, etc.? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch of options on a blue screen. I actually let is sit there - while I was on the phone with a Dr. office - but, while I was still on the phone - its like after a period of time - the PC just Shut Down or powered off! I find that strange - and did NOT Think that should happen while I was at that Blue screen. Does that sound strange to U as well? Maybe signaling a Deeper problem? FYI - I am by No Means a PC HW expert. Although, this machine with the problems - it actually IS One that I built a number of years ago... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:43 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a42126.5060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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No - its XP Pro 64 - and system was Built with the Sata HD - and, it was actually a Win2000 System - which I upgraded (dual-boot) to XP Pro. -K- On 11/14/2012 4:34 PM, Dan Covill wrote: On 11/14/12 11:47, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. Win XP did not support SATA in the original release - it was added in SP 1. I found that out the hard way when I upgraded my motherboard, adding an SATA DVD drive, and attempted a repair installation from my original CD. Can't access the drive, so can't boot from the CD! If you don't have SP1 already on your XP CD, that's probably the reason. You bought the SATA after you installed SP1, so it worked. I ended up buying a VISTA 64-bit and starting over. Dan [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a4218f.4020...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Its XP Pro 64 - which I believe has a VERY Different SP set of iterations vs. regular XP. But, without it booting - I can't U what I got. I did keep it updated - however... When it is turned on initially - and it shows BIOS name, Memory HD's - it shows Nothing showing up in Sata channels 1 2. That does NOT sound right to me! What Say you??? I'm pulling my hair out with thing - and I ain't got enough there anymore to pull out!!! :-( -K- On 11/14/2012 4:55 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Kurt, As has been pointed out, it would be a VERY good thing to know which SP version your now-dead XP system was upgraded to. (Or maybe it was installed with SP1, 2, or 3.) You'll also need a CD that matches that level. I'm not 100%, but I think you can reinstall from an SP1 CD to an SP3 system, but not vice versa. If you've had the system for any length of time, and if you've been keeping it updated with patches, I can't imagine that you wouldn't have SP3 on it. Mike Original Message Subject: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:00 PM Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a42355.6010...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
If the BIOS doesn't see the drive, there's no hope in heck that any software (Windoze, or a utility) will see the drive either. You either have a drive with a controller issue (not unlike a bad-attitude in a mother-in-law) or a bad SATA cable...are you sure the drive is spinning up and doing self-calibration? FYI, most drive manufacturers have a downloadable utility that you can burn to a CD and boot from to do a diagnostic on the hdisk. Your best bet is to connect the drive to a computer that is running WinXP or better (anything using NTFS) and hope the dual boot issue doesn't bite you in the arse so you can copy the data off of it. Bottom line from your description, I would consider the drive replaceable (you can get new 500GB SATA drives for $80 or less) and start working towards salvaging the data from the old drive. Not that it matters, and you may have already stated...but what brand is this HD? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:03 PM Its XP Pro 64 - which I believe has a VERY Different SP set of iterations vs. regular XP. But, without it booting - I can't U what I got. I did keep it updated - however... When it is turned on initially - and it shows BIOS name, Memory HD's - it shows Nothing showing up in Sata channels 1 2. That does NOT sound right to me! What Say you??? I'm pulling my hair out with thing - and I ain't got enough there anymore to pull out!!! :-( -K- On 11/14/2012 4:55 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Kurt, As has been pointed out, it would be a VERY good thing to know which SP version your now-dead XP system was upgraded to. (Or maybe it was installed with SP1, 2, or 3.) You'll also need a CD that matches that level. I'm not 100%, but I think you can reinstall from an SP1 CD to an SP3 system, but not vice versa. If you've had the system for any length of time, and if you've been keeping it updated with patches, I can't imagine that you wouldn't have SP3 on it. Mike Original Message Subject: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:00 PM Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a428b2.8090...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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For the Hell of it - I blew air into the fan on the CPU. So - as I mentioned before - I was now seeing errors like No Boot files or something - and that when Bios was displayed - it didn't list any HD in the SATA channels. AS such, just now - went into the BIOS - and that's what I saw - no HD's in SATA Channels - and I even ran Auto-detect for all 4 channels - and - Nothing - Zero - like NO HD's detected. I can't believe its just getting worse... Somebody just shoot me now... -K- On 11/14/2012 4:17 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: My nose smells a power supply issue. I've also seen CPUs that will sense a problem and shut the system down...usually heat related...kind of a self-preservation thing. I'm feeling warm, Dave. Have you actually opened the system and checked for massive wads of lint and dust and dirt caked on the CPU heatsink...power supply fan screen, etc.? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch of options on a blue screen. I actually let is sit there - while I was on the phone with a Dr. office - but, while I was still on the phone - its like after a period of time - the PC just Shut Down or powered off! I find that strange - and did NOT Think that should happen while I was at that Blue screen. Does that sound strange to U as well? Maybe signaling a Deeper problem? FYI - I am by No Means a PC HW expert. Although, this machine with the problems - it actually IS One that I built a number of years ago... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:43 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a429a2.6070...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Its a: SATA Seagate 500 GB I actually already did swap the SATA cables - took the one from Terabyte drive - still no good - and even tried plugging into different SATA Ports on the MoBo - still no help... -K- On 11/14/2012 6:26 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: If the BIOS doesn't see the drive, there's no hope in heck that any software (Windoze, or a utility) will see the drive either. You either have a drive with a controller issue (not unlike a bad-attitude in a mother-in-law) or a bad SATA cable...are you sure the drive is spinning up and doing self-calibration? FYI, most drive manufacturers have a downloadable utility that you can burn to a CD and boot from to do a diagnostic on the hdisk. Your best bet is to connect the drive to a computer that is running WinXP or better (anything using NTFS) and hope the dual boot issue doesn't bite you in the arse so you can copy the data off of it. Bottom line from your description, I would consider the drive replaceable (you can get new 500GB SATA drives for $80 or less) and start working towards salvaging the data from the old drive. Not that it matters, and you may have already stated...but what brand is this HD? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:03 PM Its XP Pro 64 - which I believe has a VERY Different SP set of iterations vs. regular XP. But, without it booting - I can't U what I got. I did keep it updated - however... When it is turned on initially - and it shows BIOS name, Memory HD's - it shows Nothing showing up in Sata channels 1 2. That does NOT sound right to me! What Say you??? I'm pulling my hair out with thing - and I ain't got enough there anymore to pull out!!! :-( -K- On 11/14/2012 4:55 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Kurt, As has been pointed out, it would be a VERY good thing to know which SP version your now-dead XP system was upgraded to. (Or maybe it was installed with SP1, 2, or 3.) You'll also need a CD that matches that level. I'm not 100%, but I think you can reinstall from an SP1 CD to an SP3 system, but not vice versa. If you've had the system for any length of time, and if you've been keeping it updated with patches, I can't imagine that you wouldn't have SP3 on it. Mike Original Message Subject: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:00 PM Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a42ace.7000...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Oh -and yes, it does spin up... On 11/14/2012 6:26 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: If the BIOS doesn't see the drive, there's no hope in heck that any software (Windoze, or a utility) will see the drive either. You either have a drive with a controller issue (not unlike a bad-attitude in a mother-in-law) or a bad SATA cable...are you sure the drive is spinning up and doing self-calibration? FYI, most drive manufacturers have a downloadable utility that you can burn to a CD and boot from to do a diagnostic on the hdisk. Your best bet is to connect the drive to a computer that is running WinXP or better (anything using NTFS) and hope the dual boot issue doesn't bite you in the arse so you can copy the data off of it. Bottom line from your description, I would consider the drive replaceable (you can get new 500GB SATA drives for $80 or less) and start working towards salvaging the data from the old drive. Not that it matters, and you may have already stated...but what brand is this HD? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:03 PM Its XP Pro 64 - which I believe has a VERY Different SP set of iterations vs. regular XP. But, without it booting - I can't U what I got. I did keep it updated - however... When it is turned on initially - and it shows BIOS name, Memory HD's - it shows Nothing showing up in Sata channels 1 2. That does NOT sound right to me! What Say you??? I'm pulling my hair out with thing - and I ain't got enough there anymore to pull out!!! :-( -K- On 11/14/2012 4:55 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Kurt, As has been pointed out, it would be a VERY good thing to know which SP version your now-dead XP system was upgraded to. (Or maybe it was installed with SP1, 2, or 3.) You'll also need a CD that matches that level. I'm not 100%, but I think you can reinstall from an SP1 CD to an SP3 system, but not vice versa. If you've had the system for any length of time, and if you've been keeping it updated with patches, I can't imagine that you wouldn't have SP3 on it. Mike Original Message Subject: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:00 PM Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does attempt to Boot up - and even starts loading the OS (WinXP Pro 64) - and comes up with the MS logo. But, during the boot up - it eventually fails and drops to a BSOD screen - which is always a lovely thing to see! Someone on the list here (although he hasn't gotten back to me in a while - and I think he has been busy and hasn't been checking e-mails for a while) suggested I connect the main boot drive to another computer - and run ChkDsk. Well, I tried connected it to my laptop - but, the OS did NOT actually SEE the drive. I attempted to actually connect it inside of my wife's PC - but, when it booted - Same thing - it was like the OS could not SEE the drive! So - I'm getting kinda desperate here - and hoping someone can help me out. Again - if I put it BACK in the original PC - it does attempt to Boot - but, then the BSOD comes up... TIA, -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a42b56.3040...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
You should be able to hear the drive spin up and self-calibrate...although the newer drives are much quieter. What I do is use a large screwdriver like a stethescope...put the handle end against your ear and the point against the case of the drive (NOT on a circuit board!)then power the system on while you listen. You'll hear a mechanical whirring noise increasing in pitch then some chatter like sounds as the drive calibrates the head. If you hear nothing, silence, then the drive is dead. Very bad. If you hear spinning but nothing else, then the drive is brain dead. Also not good. If you hear spinning, then chatter, then nothing, then it could be the cables, the cable connectors, or the mainboard interface. It all comes back to how much $ you want to spend and what the value of the data is to you. For a few hundred dollars, there are companies that will get everything off the drive that is recoverable. For the price of some time and a new hard drive, you might be able to recover most of the data...if the drive will still run. Thank God for backups...right? (right? right? huh?) Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:30 PM For the Hell of it - I blew air into the fan on the CPU. So - as I mentioned before - I was now seeing errors like No Boot files or something - and that when Bios was displayed - it didn't list any HD in the SATA channels. AS such, just now - went into the BIOS - and that's what I saw - no HD's in SATA Channels - and I even ran Auto-detect for all 4 channels - and - Nothing - Zero - like NO HD's detected. I can't believe its just getting worse... Somebody just shoot me now... -K- On 11/14/2012 4:17 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: My nose smells a power supply issue. I've also seen CPUs that will sense a problem and shut the system down...usually heat related...kind of a self-preservation thing. I'm feeling warm, Dave. Have you actually opened the system and checked for massive wads of lint and dust and dirt caked on the CPU heatsink...power supply fan screen, etc.? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch of options on a blue screen. I actually let is sit there - while I was on the phone with a Dr. office - but, while I was still on the phone - its like after a period of time - the PC just Shut Down or powered off! I find that strange - and did NOT Think that should happen while I was at that Blue screen. Does that sound strange to U as well? Maybe signaling a Deeper problem? FYI - I am by No Means a PC HW expert. Although, this machine with the problems - it actually IS One that I built a number of years ago... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:43 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working again - and keep all data SW still functional - so, this is what I am still after. -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a42c0b.5000...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
I used a screw driver to listen - it went Whir - Chip - Chip, chip - Chip, chip - then continued to make the spinning noise. I even plugged the Terabyte drive back in - and, it comes up under the Bios - just not the main drive. But, strangely - at one point today - when it was booting up - it actually gave me the option to select which OS I wanted to boot into - and, at another point - the option to select Safe Mode Or Last Good Config (which I actually DID try - but, not successfully!)... As for a Backup. Well, a lot of stuff is kinda backed up to the Terabyte drive - and, a LOT of the other stuff - current projects and all - its on the Laptop. But, never any TRUE Backup... In the past, I rolled this way - since, if a PC went bad - I was usually able to take the HD - pop it into another PC - and then pull any files off that HD that I needed. Guess its time to seriously consider true backups! -K- On 11/14/2012 6:40 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: You should be able to hear the drive spin up and self-calibrate...although the newer drives are much quieter. What I do is use a large screwdriver like a stethescope...put the handle end against your ear and the point against the case of the drive (NOT on a circuit board!)then power the system on while you listen. You'll hear a mechanical whirring noise increasing in pitch then some chatter like sounds as the drive calibrates the head. If you hear nothing, silence, then the drive is dead. Very bad. If you hear spinning but nothing else, then the drive is brain dead. Also not good. If you hear spinning, then chatter, then nothing, then it could be the cables, the cable connectors, or the mainboard interface. It all comes back to how much $ you want to spend and what the value of the data is to you. For a few hundred dollars, there are companies that will get everything off the drive that is recoverable. For the price of some time and a new hard drive, you might be able to recover most of the data...if the drive will still run. Thank God for backups...right? (right? right? huh?) Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:30 PM For the Hell of it - I blew air into the fan on the CPU. So - as I mentioned before - I was now seeing errors like No Boot files or something - and that when Bios was displayed - it didn't list any HD in the SATA channels. AS such, just now - went into the BIOS - and that's what I saw - no HD's in SATA Channels - and I even ran Auto-detect for all 4 channels - and - Nothing - Zero - like NO HD's detected. I can't believe its just getting worse... Somebody just shoot me now... -K- On 11/14/2012 4:17 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: My nose smells a power supply issue. I've also seen CPUs that will sense a problem and shut the system down...usually heat related...kind of a self-preservation thing. I'm feeling warm, Dave. Have you actually opened the system and checked for massive wads of lint and dust and dirt caked on the CPU heatsink...power supply fan screen, etc.? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch of options on a blue screen. I actually let is sit there - while I was on the phone with a Dr. office - but, while I was still on the phone - its like after a period of time - the PC just Shut Down or powered off! I find that strange - and did NOT Think that should happen while I was at that Blue screen. Does that sound strange to U as well? Maybe signaling a Deeper problem? FYI - I am by No Means a PC HW expert. Although, this machine with the problems - it actually IS One that I built a number of years ago... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:43 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the
Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...
Although - in my case - I want Both - since I have at least one program that is tied to the system - and its a Drag to lose that permanently! On 11/14/2012 4:06 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Safe Mode may boot, which would be the goal of the exercise as I assume you're mainly interested in retrieving data, not applications. :-) -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:34 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a43614.3020...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Some things to expect
Well, I was waiting for the flood of post-election emails to die down but things are happening so fast that my predictions may turn into yesterday's news. As soon as I heard Obama won the election, I predicted trouble for the mid-East. And that it'll eventually spill over into the rest of the world. We know that Obama is no friend of Israel. He skipped the nation on his visit to the mid-East where he stopped in almost every neighboring Arab nation. They definitely took notice of that. And Obama's overtures to Islamic states, and his lack of action when US citizens are attacked will continue to embolden them. So where is this headed? Maybe something like this: - Arab states now see the US as backing away from Israel. After all, we re-elected Obama and it's pretty clear he prefers Islamic nations over Israel. - Arab factions may start something against Israel. The intent would be to provoke Israel into military action. It may not be an outright attack, it could be simply spreading rumors or threats. - Israel will take military action against the Arabs. It may be small, directed attacks at first. This could be strikes into the closest danger to Israel (e.g. Gaza) or even over into Iran (nuclear facilities). - Because of the terrible militant Jews the Arab world will attempt to rally the United Nations against Israel because of those strikes. Not necessarily to actually get action, but to at least stall the larger powers from getting involved in the upcoming war. - At this point, if they think the timing is right, the Arab nations will launch an attack against Israel. But it may not be the typical conventional attack - it may be masses of terrorist attacks. And Israel will of course escalate its responses. - If Iran or another Arab nation has a nuclear device, they will use it. It may be small - and they may actually detonate it outside Israel's border because of tight security. The desire would be to kill as many Jews as possible with radioactive fallout. - But if a nuclear device is used against Israel, we can expect a massive nuclear retaliation. Probably in Mecca and Medina at least, and then going after military capacity. That's what it looks like from my chair. Of course, the Arabs may go for a conventional type war as they've done before if they don't have the nuclear bomb yet. If they go that route they'll very likely get pasted like they always were in the past by Israel. But the Arabs may hope that they'll get support from Russia/China and could win by attrition if the US won't come to Israel's aid. Now the rest of the world will get into the mix one way or another because of the oil supply. Russia/China may even go so far as to help the Arabs get the nuclear bomb for a promise of future oil. And if Russia/China think they can get the Arabs to oil-starve the US, all the better. In the United States, as the situation gets worse, our gas prices will go through the roof. This will send our economy into a severe downturn like it did a while back when gas prices rose sharply. And in our already weakened state, we're going to be in rough shape. The Obama administration may take advantage of that situation to take control of the oil industry (not likely as most people should definitely see that as an attack on our economic system - but then we've been pretty blind to what he's done already shrug). This will contribute to us essentially ignoring Israel and the growing mid-East crisis. I was thinking about writing this note last Friday but got side-tracked. And now today I hear that Israel has performed surgical strikes into Gaza. They killed the leader of the terrorist group there - Hamas I think it's called. And now, of course, the Arabs are trying to incite themselves against Israel. Things are in motion. Of course the timing isn't certain. There could be all kinds of posturing and secret deals for months or a couple years. And I've heard rumors that Israel has found large oil reserves on it's land. If that's true you can bet the Arab countries will not sit by and let Israel develop into a major oil producing nation. It looks like the stage for the final showdown has been set. -Charlie ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5.2.0.9.2.20121114185643.05a6d...@incoming.verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Republican senators set up showdown over possible Rice nomination
I'm beginning to think that Susan Rice, USA Ambassador to the UN, was setup by the CIA. I know that John McCain and Lindsey Graham were big supporters of president Bush's foreign policy, including voting for President Bush's nomination of neocon, Bull Dog, John Bolton, as USA Ambassador to the UN. If John Bolton had been confirmed, he would have raised hell at the UN an alienated everybody against the USA. Susan Rice, USA Ambassador to the UN, has been just the opposite of a John Bolton pick, and has been very successful improving USA international relations and gaining international support for tough sanctions against Iran, much to the chagrin of Israel and the neocons who would much prefer preemptive war. I never really understood why General David Petraeus was made the Director of the CIA. From what I've read, he was not well liked by the intelligence community, who say him as an military man, and thus an outsider. General Petraeus might also have been setup by, or a victim of the CIA. Senator John McCain and Lindsey Graham want to conduct hearings on President Obama's handling of the Benghazi attack, along the lines that brought President Nixon down during the Watergate hearings, as a way to get at President Obama. Nixon had his Watergate, Clinton had his Monica Lewinsky's, and, if the republican have their way, Obama will have his Bengahzi. LOL Somehow the Benghazi attack and Israel's desire to preemptively strict Iran; because, they fear Iran might perfect a nuclear weapon in the future, seems to play a role in all this; thus, its seems possible that the CIA, or Isreal, might have orchestrated the Benghazi attack to advance their political and military agenda. Things have come far enough along now, that someone should be able to begin connecting the dots. LOL #--- Excerpt: The president denounced senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham for saying they would attempt to block Rice from leading the state department if Obama nominated her because she either lied or was incompetent in saying that the attack in Libya on September 11 was spontaneous and that there was no evidence of a link to al-Qaida. Republicans assert that the White House knew at the time that neither claim was true. The administration says the information was substantially correct even if it was wrong to assert there was a demonstration taking place at the time. It says the link to al-Qaida is tenuous. Obama vigorously defended Rice at his press conference on Wednesday by saying that she was merely repeating the intelligence available at the time when she appeared on various Sunday television talk shows five days after the Benghazi attack. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/14/mccain-graham-obama-showdown-rice-nomination # Regards, LelandJ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a45d9d.1020...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Republican senators set up showdown over possible Rice nomination
On 11/14/2012 09:12 PM, lelandj wrote: who say him as an military man, and thus an outsider Whoops, I should have said: who _saw_ him as an military man, and thus an outsider Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50a45ece.9060...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
