Re: define class xx twice
At 15:31 2016-11-18, "Fernando D. Bozzo" wrote: [snip] "do someproc in locationx" or "NewObject" does not use nothing "in memory", because they load from the indicated resource directly, hence, does not apply, You do not know that. You are guessing. It may be a perfectly reasonable guess, but it is still just a guess. How VFP decides to cache code is nothing I have seen documented. I have occasionally gotten into trouble with this to the point where I have simply closed VFP and restarted it, because I could not get the cache dropped. This includes using clear program. A bug in VFP? Maybe. A bug in my code? Quite possibly. But I have been unable to clear the cache short of closing VFP. [snip] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9aabd014b4286b3ca161431efce95a63@mtlp85 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Setting >1 Page Orientation in PDFs
At 00:48 2016-11-17, Dave Crozier wrote: Fineprint PDF writer does it all automatically plus much, much more and is not expensive. How do you do it with Fineprint, please? I have code that I think ought to work. It does set the orientation correctly for the first time the orientation is set in a print job. It does not work for subsequent orientation settings in a print job. It fails the same way with two different PDF generators. It is quite possible that I am doing something wrong. (No one has replied with a correct way of how to do it, but that does not guarantee I am correct. (I wish.)) I would rather not get mixed up with yet another PDF generator without a reasonable assurance that it will work. (Besides, the company I am working for already uses Bullzip in other areas.) And maybe seeing your code will give me an idea. [snipped previous] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/8e102644922de61c90407560736505a1@mtlp87 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: define class xx twice
Hi Gene: 2016-11-18 19:14 GMT+01:00 Gene Wirchenko : > At 00:57 2016-11-18, "Fernando D. Bozzo" wrote: > >> Yes, this is the same behaviour as for procedures, the last defined or >> loaded overwrites the previous. >> > > Maybe. It is undefined behaviour so you can not count on it being > one way or the other. > > This is because there can't be more than one procedure/class with the same >> name on memoty at the same time. >> > > A questionable assumption. What about > do someproc in locationa > do someproc in locationb > Since it is not defined exactly what VFP stores in memory codewise, it is > not impossible that both could be. > That is precisely why I've talked about "procedure/class on memory", because the only way to have them loaded on memory is with SET PROCEDURE and SET CLASSLIB, and in this cases the last one is the winner. "do someproc in locationx" or "NewObject" does not use nothing "in memory", because they load from the indicated resource directly, hence, does not apply, > > In the case of classes you can use NewObject to select from which library >> instantiate a class definition, but for multiple objects this is more >> slower than createobject. >> > > > Having been bit by a duplicate method name some months back, I think > there really should be a compiler error message for duplicates. > > [snipped previous] > > Sincerely, > > Gene Wirchenko > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cagq_juncedvffmvo9etnhzpopyg4n1izjh-22hxyvk9c0oc...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
At 05:01 2016-11-18, Dave Crozier wrote: CTRL/ALT and if I remember correctly on the plus version it was both shift keys together... These along with Wordstar control keys are indelibly engrained in my brain! How sad is that! Not sad at all. The WordStar keys are very useful. I use a WordStar-compatible editor for my programming. IME, no GUI editor has ever compared faintly as well for general programming editing. [snipped previous] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ec69591d34a5da6b152edfafd0b3a87e@mtlp83 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: define class xx twice
At 00:57 2016-11-18, "Fernando D. Bozzo" wrote: Yes, this is the same behaviour as for procedures, the last defined or loaded overwrites the previous. Maybe. It is undefined behaviour so you can not count on it being one way or the other. This is because there can't be more than one procedure/class with the same name on memoty at the same time. A questionable assumption. What about do someproc in locationa do someproc in locationb Since it is not defined exactly what VFP stores in memory codewise, it is not impossible that both could be. In the case of classes you can use NewObject to select from which library instantiate a class definition, but for multiple objects this is more slower than createobject. Having been bit by a duplicate method name some months back, I think there really should be a compiler error message for duplicates. [snipped previous] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/53b9181cdfcb7b82ebe52b51c4179e0e@mtlp86 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
Both shift keys! Used it with Clipper - used Sidekick as editor - saved and ^^ compile and execute - Brilliant! AndyD On 18-Nov-2016 4:34 PM, Peter Cushing wrote: On 17/11/2016 15:04, Dave Crozier wrote: Chatting about old technology reminded me of the old days when we had to use TSR programs like Borland Sidekick to get around the 640Mb memory limit. Oh how times have changed!! Yeah, but can you remember (without looking on the internet) the shortcut key to activate it? Peter This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. www.whisperingsmith.com Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 1RR. Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715 London Office:17-19 Foley Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2966d445-4e76-d5c0-01a8-cec5ece0e...@hawthorncottage.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Police are using software to predict crime
On 11/18/2016 4:48 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote: They are NOT predicting crimes. They are using the software a crystal ball or a magic mirror. They are trusting and believing in the logic of the software. The proper name for this is astrology, *NOT* crime prediction! :) +1 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/fa3eadf5-b26c-35ff-08af-2b0eff892...@taconic.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
I still use JP Software's (creator/publisher of 4DOS, 4NT, 4OS2) command shell replacement. -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:27 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives I remember that :) And what about popcalc/pop* programs or 4dos with history recall, aliases and word colouring? El 17/11/2016 4:04 p. m., "Dave Crozier" escribió: ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bn4pr10mb0913963914f6d16d89259ca2d2...@bn4pr10mb0913.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
Same here but with WP. On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Dave Crozier wrote: > CTRL/ALT and if I remember correctly on the plus version it was both shift > keys together... > > These along with Wordstar control keys are indelibly engrained in my brain! > > How sad is that! > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing > Sent: 18 November 2016 11:04 > To: profox@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives > > On 17/11/2016 15:04, Dave Crozier wrote: > > Chatting about old technology reminded me of the old days when we had to > use TSR programs like Borland Sidekick to get around the 640Mb memory > limit. Oh how times have changed!! > > > Yeah, but can you remember (without looking on the internet) the shortcut > key to activate it? > > Peter > > > This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom it > is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in law. > Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If > you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by > telephone or email. > > www.whisperingsmith.com > > Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 1RR. > Tel:0161 831 3700 > Fax:0161 831 3715 > > London Office:17-19 Foley Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/capqlobxq+pz5krtw9cfoymzxpdnfnx8xesj99hgu6shsavq...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
CTRL/ALT and if I remember correctly on the plus version it was both shift keys together... These along with Wordstar control keys are indelibly engrained in my brain! How sad is that! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: 18 November 2016 11:04 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives On 17/11/2016 15:04, Dave Crozier wrote: > Chatting about old technology reminded me of the old days when we had to use > TSR programs like Borland Sidekick to get around the 640Mb memory limit. Oh > how times have changed!! > Yeah, but can you remember (without looking on the internet) the shortcut key to activate it? Peter This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. www.whisperingsmith.com Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 1RR. Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715 London Office:17-19 Foley Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18725b8cd2d5d247873a2baf401d4ab2a43b9...@ex2010-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
On 17/11/2016 15:04, Dave Crozier wrote: Chatting about old technology reminded me of the old days when we had to use TSR programs like Borland Sidekick to get around the 640Mb memory limit. Oh how times have changed!! Yeah, but can you remember (without looking on the internet) the shortcut key to activate it? Peter This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. www.whisperingsmith.com Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 1RR. Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715 London Office:17-19 Foley Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/f21b4425-f95a-5516-f3b1-ec73d604d...@whisperingsmith.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Police are using software to predict crime
They are NOT predicting crimes. They are using the software a crystal ball or a magic mirror. They are trusting and believing in the logic of the software. The proper name for this is astrology, *NOT* crime prediction! :) On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-are-using-software-to-predict-crime-is-it-a-holy-grail-or-biased-against-minorities/2016/11/17/525a6649-0472-440a-aae1-b283aa8e5de8_story.html > -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! / v \ 64-bit Ubuntu 9.10 (Linux kernel 2.6.39.3) /( _ )\ http://sites.google.com/site/changmw ^ ^ May the Force and farces be with you! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAGv=MJBX_vYe+CNCWZWS3qMUuowEGVufa7CPgH5YG1aW=9w...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
The jury is still out, for me, but I agree with your understanding and so far SSDs have been more reliable. Mike Jim Brotz wrote: I guess I am missing something here. Why wouldn't SSDs last longer than disk drives, since they are solid state? Also, my understanding is that they use leveling algorithms to avoid the problem of wearing out due to multiple writes to the same addresses. On Nov 17, 2016 10:19 AM, wrote: On 2016-11-17 04:37, Paul Hill wrote: On 16 November 2016 at 21:01, wrote: How long do you normally use a laptop hard drive before replacing it (before disaster strikes it)? I don't think I've ever had a drive I personally own die. Still got a 9Gb SCSI drive running in my Amiga 4000 :-) Well I always heard that the SCSI drives lasted the longest (as opposed to the IDE drives)! They say these SSD drives are super fast (yes!) but they don't have the longevity like your SCSI either though...supposedly. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/7c48e86b-2362-861a-d5dd-d6e812095...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Do you rebuild your indexes every night or do you leave them alone.
I've never even encountered this CDX bloat thing, so for me I wouldn't bother really. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, at 06:12 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > My question was, "Is it a waste of time", but cutting down on CDX bloat > means that it isn't a waste > > > - Original Message - > From: Ted Roche > To: "profox@leafe.com" > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 7:54 AM > Subject: Re: Do you rebuild your indexes every night or do you leave them > alone. > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Michael Madigan > wrote: > > I don't get corruption, I just do it anyway. > > So, what was your question again? > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1479460689.1337978.791914529.1670b...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: define class xx twice
Yes, this is the same behaviour as for procedures, the last defined or
loaded overwrites the previous.
This is because there can't be more than one procedure/class with the same
name on memoty at the same time.
In the case of classes you can use NewObject to select from which library
instantiate a class definition, but for multiple objects this is more
slower than createobject.
2016-11-18 9:34 GMT+01:00 Thierry Nivelet :
> Hi,
>
> Just to be sure, would this behavior always be true wherever both DEFINE
> CLASS are located?
>
> dupClassTest = CreateObject('dupClassTest')
>
> ? dupClassTest.dupClassTest && 'duplicate'
>
> DEFINE CLASS dupClassTest as Custom
> dupClassTest = 'original'
> enddefine
>
> DEFINE CLASS dupClassTest as Custom
> dupClassTest = 'duplicate'
> enddefine
>
> --
>
> Thierry Nivelet
> FoxInCloud
> Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
> http://foxincloud.com/
>
>
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define class xx twice
Hi,
Just to be sure, would this behavior always be true wherever both DEFINE
CLASS are located?
dupClassTest = CreateObject('dupClassTest')
? dupClassTest.dupClassTest && 'duplicate'
DEFINE CLASS dupClassTest as Custom
dupClassTest = 'original'
enddefine
DEFINE CLASS dupClassTest as Custom
dupClassTest = 'duplicate'
enddefine
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