Re: VFP Code Conversion Workbench

[Man-wai Chang]

Sounds very much like using Gen A.I. to write programs!! I wonder
whether this Workbench might end up like dotNet Extender :)

On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 12:51 AM Ed Leafe  wrote:
>
> While it's certainly possible, it's not desirable unless it is a one-shot 
> deal that you will never have to maintain again.
>
> Otherwise, moving to a different language requires learning that language, 
> including its strengths, weaknesses, and idioms. If you are going to convert 
> to C#, and will need to maintain that app, you'd better learn C#. Once you 
> do, you might look at the converted code and decide that it isn't optimal.
>

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VFP Code Conversion Workbench

[Man-wai Chang]

I was guided to a VFP video in Youtube about Installshield...

Visual FoxPro for 2024: Installing on a New Developer Computer - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoZZuw3ggM8

and then I saw this:

Convert Visual FoxPro to C# in 15 Seconds With VFP Code Conversion
Workbench - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7sgxd9YbF0

Does this Workbench really work? Could he C# codes be compiled and
linked into executable right after conversion? ;)

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Re: FoxPro Conf Binder

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That's an decades old binder... very interesting! Thank you for sharing!

Can them all pages into images then bind them into a PDF!? :)

On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 6:02 AM Kurt Wendt  wrote:
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> Hey there folks,
>
> I know - I haven't posted in quite some time. And, I see the forum has been
> RATHER Quiet lately!
>
> I was going thru some stuff of mine, and I stumbled upon something - which
> I figured folks here might find interesting. I suspect it will REALLY Only
> be of value to those who are really HUGE Fans of FoxPro.
>
> So - what did I find? Great Question!
>
> It was the Binder of printed material from the 1989 Fox Dev Conf - which
> was the Unveiling of FoxPro for DOS. I did indeed attend that conference in
> Toledo, Ohio!
>
> Here is a link where I have uploaded a set of pics, including front cover
> of the Binder, an Intro letter from Dr. Fulton, a Flyer from Tom Rettig
> (yup, I got to meet him in person) - and, lastly - a sample page showing
> some FoxPro for DOS UI examples:
>  https://imgur.com/a/ejfZjjS
>
> I bet there has to be someone who might truly Covet this conference Binder
> more than me. Maybe I should post about it on the web - even put it up for
> sale on EBay (or even auction it off). But, I really don't know...
>
> Anyway - I wanted to share it here 1st!
>
> Regards,
> Kurt
>
>
> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---
> multipart/alternative
>   text/plain (text body -- kept)
>   text/html
> ---
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Email issue

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:34 PM Kurt Wendt  wrote:
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> Yeah - GMail has been tossing a BUNCH of the recent ProFox emails into my
> SPAM. I have keep trying to say it's not Spam - as I've done it a lot in...

Same here, also a Gmail user. It seemed that the mail filter "Never
send it to Spam"  was not working very well...

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Re: Fox.wikis.com

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Turn on read-only or reader mode at least... nothing will be written
to FoxWiki then and no extra harm can be done..

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 5:03 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
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> That's a real shame that it's still down.  http://fox.wikis.com/


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Re: HTTPS GET using Winsock

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Thanks! I am afraid ActiveX might vanish in future versions of
Windows. But then, Foxpro is still 32-bit and basically English-only.
:)

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 9:56 PM Tracy Pearson  wrote:
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> I have used the MSXML ActiveX control in the past.
>
> LOCAL xml as MSXML2.XMLHTTP60
> xml = CREATEOBJECT("MSXML2.XMLHTTP.6.0")
> xml.open("GET","https://www.google.com";)
> xml.send()
> ?xml.status,xml.statusText
> * ?xml.responseText
>
> These days I do use the Chilkat ActiveX control, but it isn't free.
>
> HTH,
> Tracy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Man-wai 
> Chang
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2023 7:48 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: HTTPS GET using Winsock
>
> Are there free Visual Foxpro source codes that do HTTPS GET via Winsock?
>
> The following example does non-SSL HTTP GET:
>
> Win32API/sample_383.md at master · VFPX/Win32API · GitHub
> Winsock: retrieving Web pages using sockets (HTTP, port 80)
> Retrieved data is stored in a Memo field of a cursor
> https://github.com/VFPX/Win32API/blob/master/samples/sample_383.md
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Re: HTTPS GET using Winsock

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I suppose I could do more using Winsock, maybe in the future... :)

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 9:58 PM Alan Bourke  wrote:
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> Via Winsock specifically ? Why complicate it?
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>
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HTTPS GET using Winsock

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Are there free Visual Foxpro source codes that do HTTPS GET via Winsock?

The following example does non-SSL HTTP GET:

Win32API/sample_383.md at master · VFPX/Win32API · GitHub
Winsock: retrieving Web pages using sockets (HTTP, port 80)
Retrieved data is stored in a Memo field of a cursor
https://github.com/VFPX/Win32API/blob/master/samples/sample_383.md

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Error instantiating class when opening a form

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I had a form without the class lib. Could I force open the form
ignoring the class instantiation error?

Other than opening the form.scx,  delete those references and pack it ... :)

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Re: Using OpenAI like ChatGPT?

[Man-wai Chang]

Just saw following old post from West Wind:

ChatGpt and VFP - West Wind Technologies Support
Jan 10, 2023
https://support.west-wind.com/Thread6IR0SAABQ.wwt

I am wondering whch human programmer wrote that function... :)

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> > If ChatGPT could understand Python, it should not be too hard for it to
>
> It doesn't *understand* anything, it's monkeys on typewriters.
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Re: Using OpenAI like ChatGPT?

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How about asking ChatGPT to convert VFP codes into Python codes, maybe Dabo? :)

If ChatGPT could understand Python, it should not be too hard for it to
understand Visual Foxpro. and maybe Clipper and dBase.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 1:54 AM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
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> I will say, since Python is a modern code, where as VFP is more like
> Legacy programming code - I think ChatGPT would have MUCH Better results
> for creating Python code that works vs. VFP code.

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Re: Using OpenAI like ChatGPT?

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A.I. could indeed be the next dot-Com bubble, after crypto-currencies  ... :)

On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 3:59 PM Alan Bourke  wrote:
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> It will churn out something that looks vaguely passable, but it is all smoke 
> and mirrors. There is no 'I' involved. It's a fancy search engine.
>

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Re: Using OpenAI like ChatGPT?

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Not that, but calling OpenAI from Visual Foxpro. Does OpenAI have an
ODBC bridge/driver?  :)

I will NOT be amazed if ChatGPT could control a Boston Dynamics robot
to use a PC via keyboard to write dBase programs by copying codes
found via Google Search! Well...

On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 11:19 AM Jeff Roberts  wrote:
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> If you ask ChatGPT to write FoxPro code you get an odd mix of FoxPro and
> DotNet that won't run on either platform.
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Using OpenAI like ChatGPT?

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I am just wondering whether Visual Foxpro could make use of OpenAI
like ChatGPT :)

I don't have any purpose nor objective in mind.

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Re: Small Report/Label Designs

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Foxpro's report writer has dimensions. It will be easier if
printer-friendly labels are available.

In the worst case, use PDF format? :)

On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 9:19 PM Chris Davis  wrote:
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> Anyone got any tips for working easier on small label designs?
>

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Re: fox.wikis.com

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On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:06 PM Ted Roche  wrote:
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> Wiki is read-write.
> Read-only Wiki just text.
> Is it still Wiki?

Until the problem was fixed, no harm setting the whole wiki read-only.
Just explain it in the index.html.

> > / v \ 64-bit Fedora 25 Server Spin
>
> That's a dangerously out-of-date copy of Fedora. You should update
> your email footer.

Oh well, I haven't updated my signature in Gmail for a long, long time. :)

I think Gmail changed the UI and I need to find that signature setting...

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Re: fox.wikis.com

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That's just a backup, which might disappear some days.

Is it really impossible to set fox.wikis.com read-only blocking all writers?

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 2:36 AM Eric Selje  wrote:
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> FWIW, you can go to archive.org and type fox.wikis.com and it will show you
> archived versions of the pages.

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Re: fox.wikis.com

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Just set the whole website read-only? At least people can still read the wikis.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:50 PM Jürgen Wondzinski  wrote:
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> See here: https://twitter.com/rschummer/status/1568592684910088195
>
> That thread references stupid discussions similar to this one:
> https://github.com/mattslay/GoFish/issues/14


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Re: Rude Words

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 2:07 AM Paul Hill  wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
> Something odd happened today at work. Not really Fox related.
> ...
> In the cache folder a file called passwords.txt contains 30,000
> passwords which are clearly the most common passwords (123456,
> password, etc). It also contains words like 'motherfucker'. There are
> other files with common male/female names and TV shows.
>
> So apparently googlemaps.co.uk redirects you to google maps and
> attempts a dictionary attack on your Google account. Nice!

You need a program to do a dictionary attack. I wonder whether the
program was written in Javascript, loaded when you load
googlemaps.co.uk ... Did your virus scanner sound an alert?

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Re: [NF] Microsoft wrongly blocking lots of emails

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Another one 

Microsoft: KB5008212 Windows security update breaks Outlook search
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-kb5008212-windows-security-update-breaks-outlook-search/

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 4:28 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
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> Anybody else experiencing errors like this trying to email folks who use
> Office 365 as their email provider?

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Re: [NF] Microsoft wrongly blocking lots of emails

[Man-wai Chang]

Another one not related to mail servers, I suppose... :)

Microsoft pulls problematic Windows updates that break Hyper-V and more
https://betanews.com/2022/01/14/microsoft-pulls-problematic-windows-updates-that-break-hyper-v-and-more/

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>
> Anybody else experiencing errors like this trying to email folks who use
> Office 365 as their email provider?

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Re: CABuilder Revisited

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Knowing nothing about CABuilder:

I would just trace variables _browser and lcClassList in the source
codes and hopefully something could be found  it looked like it's
trying to bring up the web browser? Or was _browser a form? Well
:)

On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 12:29 AM Graham Brown  wrote:
> I posted before about the CABuilder tool asking for the original disk then
> failing to find anything.
> I traced the code and found the last line "Do (_browser) with (lcClassList)"
> was causing the error and commenting this line allowed the code to complete
> correctly. I have no idea what dependencies this needs and why it would
> fail.

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Re: [NF] Microsoft wrongly blocking lots of emails

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One more problem heard today  :)

Windows Server: January 2022 security updates are causing DC boot loop
| Born's Tech and Windows World
https://borncity.com/win/2022/01/12/windows-server-januar-2022-sicherheitsupdates-verursachen-boot-schleife/

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>
> Anybody else experiencing errors like this trying to email folks who use
> Office 365 as their email provider?


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Re: [NF]Help desk and language skills

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The problem is out-sourcing and down-sizing, the lowest price won,
which meant lower language skills and less smart. That help desk
person might be following a stupid A.I. the stupid way as well. :)

"Global village" meant you need to deal with people whose mother
tongue was not English, as well as different accents.

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>  My IT guy says he's been dealing with several
> not-very-good-at-all-speaking-English persons and it seems like each
> time he has to start over...their communication skills are abysmal.
>
> Don't you love this global village?

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Re: [NF] Microsoft wrongly blocking lots of emails

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Could it be the Microso$t Exchange bug that was triggered on 01 Jan 2022?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 4:28 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
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>
> Anybody else experiencing errors like this trying to email folks who use
> Office 365 as their email provider?
>
> Access denied, banned sender[172.104.208.100]. To request removal from this
>  list please forward this message todel...@messaging.microsoft.com. For
>  more information please go to
>  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=526653. AS(1410)
>  [BN1NAM02FT015.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com] (in reply to RCPT 
> TO
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Re: For all of you Forms guys...

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Using Visual Foxpro 9? I thought VFP could only use Form 2.0?

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 4:02 AM Stephen Russell  wrote:
>
> Major improvements in the Forms side of .NET.
>
> https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/whats-new-in-windows-forms-in-net-6-0/
>
> I haven't done a forms based app for others in decades but you guys and
> possibly gals still do.  Here is a code base that keeps getting
> improvements and or updates and will allow you to write for linux or mac as
> well.

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Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

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The whole SMB1/WSDD thing is all about the workground browser. You
should always be able to access shares by fully qualified IP address
or name(e.g. \\1.2.3.4\share).

On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 4:32 AM  wrote:
>
> Thanks Man-wai
>
> I will definitely follow up on your suggestion if/when I am working with a 
> mix of Windows and Linux machines.
>

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Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

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If your NAS OS had WSDD, you could avoid using SMB1.

(My router is running DD-WRT with ksmbd and WSDD2)

Samba 4, shares, wsdd and Windows 10 – how to list Linux Samba servers
in the Win 10 Explorer | Linux-Blog – Dr. Mönchmeyer / anracon –
Augsburg
https://linux-blog.anracom.com/2020/05/24/samba-4-shares-wsdd-and-windows-10-how-to-list-linux-samba-servers-in-the-win-10-explorer/

Making Linux Samba shares visible to Windows hosts after WannaCry -
Doug Rathbone
https://dougrathbone.com/blog/2020/09/14/making-linux-samba-shares-browsable-to-windows-hosts-after-wannacry

Bug #1831441 “Please add WS-Discovery ( WSD ) support for Window...” :
Bugs : samba package : Ubuntu
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1831441

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 7:15 PM Paul Newton  wrote:
>
> Thanks Andy
> I'll try to find out if my NAS adapter requires SMB1 - it's  US Robotics Mini 
> NAS adapter

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Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

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Maybe you forgot what you did... :)

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 11:59 PM Jan Bucek  wrote:
>
> Very strange for me. I have a small home network - laptop and PCs with
> WinXP, Win7ultimate, Win10home, Win10enterprise and Linux/Xubuntu and
> everything marked as "public" is visible and usable without any
> additional configuration.

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Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

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If all PCs in the network were Win 8/10, then you could disable SMB1.
I forgot whether Win 7 needed SMB1.

You might also try enabling all Function Discovery services in all PCs
without enabling SMB1.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 11:36 PM  wrote:
>
> I tried everything there without success.  I'm at the stage where the
> desktop is showing no computers on the network (not even itself) and the
> laptop is showing all the computers and a networked printer, but only if
> SMB1 is enabled (which, after Alan's warning, I don't want to do).  Would I
> be right in thinking that I could solve everything by upgrading to Windows
> 10 Professional?


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Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

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A wild guess: dfid you enable SMB 1.0 support in all Win 10 PCs
including that laptop?

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:10 PM  wrote:
>
> Virgin Hub 3 connected via cable to
>
>   DesktopPC, Laptop, US robotics Mini NAS adapter and Netgear Powerline
> adapter
>
>
>
> I have an external drive (STORAGE-0001) connected via USB to the NAS
> adapter.
>
>
>
> On both the desktop and the laptop Network in File Explorer shows
>
>
>
> Media Devices(1)
>
> Sorage-0001 which when opened shows the NAS manager in a browser window/tab
>
>
>
> Network Infrastructure (1)
>
>   ARRIS TG2492LG-85 Router which when opened shows the Hub 3 settings in a
> browser window/tab
>
>
>
> On the Desktop, Network in File Manager shows Computers (3)
>
>   DesktopPC
>
>   Laptop
>
>   Storage-001 (which when opened shows the shared Public folder on the
> external drive)
>
>
>
> However, on the Laptop, Network in File Manager shows Computers (1) which is
> the laptop itself and when opened shows its shared folder(s).
>
> DesktopPC and Storage-0001 are not shown but can be opened by typing their
> network names (\\ DesktopPC and \\Storage-0001  ) into
> the Explorer address bar.
>
>
>
> After searching and trying all manner of suggestions I am still unable to
> resolve the issue (I am not even sure whether changes are required on the
> laptop or the desktop or both). I can provide further information if needed.

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Re: Disappearing pop-up windows (like the Find window dialog in Code References, and sometimes the entire Debug window)

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I think I had a script that reset all screen-related settings, just in
case ... :)
This problem can happen to single monitor setup.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:57 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
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>
> VFP9SP2 Win10Pro Dell Latitude 3400 and my favorite color today is red.
>
> Has anyone come across where your resource file just seems to get crazy
> and show windows in coordinates that are entirely off-monitor and you
> cannot see them?  I do!  Started not too long ago.  I use a dual-monitor



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Re: Windows 11???

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Recent motherboards support firmware-based TPM (fTPM). You only need
to enable it in the BIOS to install Win 11.

I forgot whether it's CPU firmware or chipset firmware. :)

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:
>
> This TPM - isn't it a chip based thing in Intel machines for security
> purposes? Sounds familiar from my time at Northrop Grumman...


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Re: PDF printing on WINE & Win98

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printing - How do I print to PDF from wine? - Ask Ubuntu
https://askubuntu.com/questions/234336/how-do-i-print-to-pdf-from-wine

Other Google results:
https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+wine+pdf+creator

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jürgen Wondzinski  wrote:
>
> Ok, now it's my turn for a problem solving:
>
> I inherited a customer, who runs a VFP6 app on a WINE on Linux setup. The 
> emulated Windows version is a Win98.
> The original developer and SysAdmin left the company. (After looking at the 
> codebase, I now know why)
> I was able to successfully recompile it in VFP9 and fix some idiotic things.
>
> Now the customer wants to print reports to PDF and then create an email (pure 
> text), attach that PDF and mail it by SMTP.
>
> All that without using the new printengine (that is slower than molasses on 
> that installation), and no COM object (since WINE is version 1.1.9 from 2006)
>
> Has anybody experience with a simple DLL only solution for that scenario?
>
> wOOdy
>
>
>
>
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Re: FoxPro 2.6 for Windows App

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Foxpro for WIndows is a 16-bit program, if I remember correctly.
64-bit Windows have dropped support for 16-bit apps. That's why your
client is using 32-bit Windows to run that old 16-bit program.

I think you could use 64-bit virtual machines to run old 16-bit
programs. There are also tools like DOSBox.

You have to experiment with them to really find out how far you could go.

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:45 AM Philip Borkholder  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> One of my customers still has a FoxPro 2.6 for Windows app running on a 
> network. They are currently running it on Windows 7 32 bit OS.
>
> Question I have for you.
> Does FoxPro 2.6 have to have a 32 bit hardware (machine) as well as Windows 
> 32 bit OS ?
> Or can it get by running on Windows 7 32 bit OS or even Windows 10 32 bit OS ?



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Re: Problem with APPEND FROM TYPE DELIMITED

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What's the structure of your DBF, notably the definition of the 58th field?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:14 PM Paul Newton  wrote:
>
> I have a CSV file (MyFile.CSV) with a single line that looks like this:
> FIN005,,06/11/2020,06/11/2020,06/11/2020,T116434,C,,,N,,,8300,,-15,,-3,,,H,S,1LEITH
> You can verify for yourselves that LEITH is the 58th column.
> I have a table (MyTable.DBF) with 66 fields and Field(58) returns SA_JOB
>
> The following fails to populate SA_JOB
>
> Select MyTable
> APPEND FROM MyFile.CSV TYPE DELIMITED
>
> All the other columns are correct in the table.  I am completely stumped so 
> any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: [NF] Missing codec - This item was encoded in a format that's not supported

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I am using LAV Filters for virtually all videos:
https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFilters/releases

And there is an old websitehttp://www.free-codecs.com


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 7:52 PM Paul Newton  wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I have a number of AVIs which I recorded for training purposes a long time 
> ago (probably when running Windows 7).  Now, when I try to play these AVIs I 
> get the message as in the subject.  Now running Windows 10 (2004).  Any ideas 
> where/how I can install a codec which will enable them to play?  Many thanks.
>
> Paul Newton
>
>
> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---
> multipart/alternative
>   text/plain (text body -- kept)
>   text/html
> ---
>
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Re: [NF] Messed up Desktop WIN 10

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Did you move the location of both Desktop and Download to the same folder.
First, fix their locations by right-click their Properties, then move the files!

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 9:03 PM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
 wrote:
>
> "Desktop" contains all "Downloads"plus 11 more items.  How to remove all
> the "Download" files and folders from "Desktop"
> [image: image.png]
>
> Thank you
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Re: Bizarre scenario solved by READWRITE clause on end of SELECT SQL (SOLVED)

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That sounds more like a program bug then... :)

That app I was talking about didn't use database container, all DBFs.
And no triggers.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:11 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
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>
> How does that have anything to do with the price of tea in China?   lol
>
> It wasn't that an index was out of whack; it's that the attempt to fully
> optimize caused VFP to unfortunately filter the table instead of give me
> an inaccurate count of the cursor.

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Re: Bizarre scenario solved by READWRITE clause on end of SELECT SQL (SOLVED)

[Man-wai Chang]

Maybe your server should reindex all DBFs every night after office
hours! That's what an 10-year-old FoxPro/DOS MIS system I used to
maintain was doing :)

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:33 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
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>
> MYSTERY SOLVED!  IT *WAS* THE DELETED INDEX THAT CAUSED THE CHANGE IN
> BEHAVIOR!  I dropped the index, re-ran with the code as it's been the
> past 4 years, and it worked completely fine.
>
> So much for my seeing if the DELETED() index helped.   As I said...I
> don't think any very small performance gain would be worth the
> aggravation this caused.  (Made me doubt other areas working for years
> tooyou know, the things nobody yet noticed or told you about?!?!?)




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Re: File Sync

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Google Search is your A.I. friend!
Keywords like "robocopy example" and "robocopy backup script" should do! :)

Someone posted a Micro$oft link anyway.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:57 AM Koen Piller  wrote:
>
> Where can I find the Helpfile for RoboCopy?

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Re: File Sync

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Do not forget about ROBOCOPY that comes with Window$.

robocopy source target /l /mt:1 /a-:sh /mir /xjd

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:39 PM Chris Davis  wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend a free and simple file syncing program to mirror a 
> folder on a server to a local folder (files and subfolders).
>
> I had been using freefilesync / robocopy but struggling with both of these on 
> one particular computer and want to try another such utility to see if it 
> gives me a better idea of what the issue is.

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Re: Odd Error Message

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Disk I/O errors should always be logged, including secret folders. If
you were not allowed to log that error, better leave the company
before the errors hurt your reputation and career. Find a regular job
that's normal. :)

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 4:57 AM Tracy Pearson  wrote:
>
> Once had a network admin move everyone's "Documents" folder to a shared
> network path. Then didn't allow anyone to see the contents of the folder
> above it.
>
> \\Server\Share\{UserName} was how it was done. The user was able to put
> things in C:\Users\{UserName}\Documents and everything worked.
> So user couldn't write or see anything in the Share folder. But was allowed
> full access in their folder.
>
> Getting the SpecialFolder from windows and doing a "SET DEFAULT TO
> (cDocumentsFolder)" would throw "Invalid path or file name (Error 202)".



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Re: Odd Error Message

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I would always exercise caution in all file i/o codes and walk that
distance!! I would argue with my boss about that extra distance.

Anyway, the problem might bite you again, or someone in place of you.
Good luck then! :)

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 4:38 AM Fletcher Johnson
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>
> We did have a test to see if the temp folder existed.  If it didn't we tried
> to create it.  But it did exist.  Given the purpose of the temp folder is to
> hold temporary data, we didn't bother with code to actually try to create a
> file, write to it, and then verify that it was written to.  I mean, who
> would ever make a temporary folder read-only

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Re: Odd Error Message

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You better double-check the error handler! It should not have ignored
the write error to that TEMP folder.

To verify whether a folder was writable, you could test write then
delete a file in that folder and look for errors. You might need to
temporarily use ON ERROR to trap file write errors before restoring
the original error handler. I have done this kind of things many
times.

But then, why would someone lock down temporary folders? They are
supposed to be TEMPORARY! But then, if the limit was on folder size,
your code might still failed. So, your program still had to be fixed
to detect that. A virus scanner could also produce the same error.

Happy hunting anyway! :)

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 1:05 AM Fletcher Johnson
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>
> folder)  Anyway, it turns out that the IT folk at the time had decided
> to lock down the Temp folder on all machines - but only by making it read
> only..
>
> The worst part is that, while we couldn't write to the file, we could open
> it, etc.  And when we tried to write to it, it acted like it did, even
> though it didn't But then crashed later when we used it again and the
> necessary values weren't there...

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[FW]Harbour for the web is finally here !!!

[Man-wai Chang]

On 5/26/2019 5:52 AM, antonio.fivet...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Please take some minutes to read this:
>
> https://fivetechsoft.github.io/mod_harbour/
>

Very interesting

"mod Harbour is an extension module for Apache that provides full
support to execute PRGs and HRBs files from the web.

If you are a Windows developer, you can build the web from your Windows
10 and then simply run your PRGs on Edge or Chrome powered by Apache on
the Windows 10 bash using the mod Harbour extension. When everything is
ready, simply take your PRGs to your dedicated Linux web server where
you can install the mod Harbour for Apache."





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Re: Filtering Oddity

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On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 12:01 AM Fletcher Johnson
 wrote:
> 1) It used to be that a Select statement would be optimized by VFP to open
> the source table again, in another work area, and then set a filter on it.
> This was a problem when people thought they had a cursor and updated the
> contents, only to find out they had edited the actual data.  So they added a
> "nofilter" clause that forced VFP to create a new cursor and not use the
> original approach.

Had to be bad coding, possibly mixing up aliases in the process.

> 5) I can't remember, but did set filter allow you to reference a variable?
> And, if so, did changing that variable then change the effect of the filter?
> If so, this might also be an option.

SET FILTER can use variables. Changing the values of the variables
should not affect executed SET FILTER if I remember correctly.

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Re: Filtering Oddity

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You can just watch the value of variable f. A valid filter expression
stored in variable f will not produce error.

What are you trying to do when you said "...would prefer just one
statement in the heat of debugging"?

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:46 AM Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
>   I do know that I can do
>f=filter()+" and empty(wfd)"
>set filter to &f
> but in the heat of debugging, I would prefer just one statement.
>
>   Is there a way to extend a filter in one statement without
> retyping the current filter expression?

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Re: Filtering Oddity

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Yes, SET FILTER always need to use macro substitution &filter_expr!
Using SQL is also a better solution usually, depending how you move
the record pointer.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 4:55 PM Johan Nel  wrote:
>
> I realize I am not a VFP guy, but would the following not work? In
> Clipper/VO this will work.
>
> set filter to &(filter() + " and empty(wfd)")

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Re: This is a test please ignore.

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CONTACT  CONTACT Incoming missile

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 4:46 PM Alan Bourke  wrote:
>
> A test.
>

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Re: Hey, can you test this...

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 12:29 PM Fletcher Johnson
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>
> Malcolm,
>
> I agree about using various password managers, but it's not uncommon for
> people to have some passwords saved in a browser (sometimes without even
> realizing it.)

It maybe better to write down your passwords in a notebook using a
pen. Digital password wallets are too dangerous and unsafe.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

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CONTACT :)

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:52 AM Ed Leafe  wrote:
>
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/). So 
> far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end of 
> things notices a problem, please let me know.
>

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Re: [NF] Happy Holidays To Everyone!

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On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 11:00 PM Paul H. Tarver  wrote:
>
>
> Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to each of you!
>

Same to you, your family and your colleagues! :)

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Re: VFP9 Grid record focus

[Man-wai Chang]

These wikis might help?
http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Fox~DisplayFindResults

I barely remember that there were tricks in using grid:

1. this.recordsource=this.recordsource

2. select (this.recordsource)
go recno()
this.refresh()

I still think there were some codes in your popup screen that moved
the record pointer of the grid's recordsource. You could re-open the
grid's data source using aliases without moving the record pointer in
the grid.

* something like these:
select 0
use (grid.recordsource) again noupdate alias haha
* do your stuffs
use in haha


On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 12:50 AM Kent Belan  wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I have a weird problem with a grid on a locate screen that I have never
> noticed before.
>
> I have a maintenance screen with a locate button, that opens a modal search
> form with a grid to select a record.
>
> When I load the grid with several hundred records the first time it loads
> fine at the top of the file.
>
> The user selects a record and I return to the maintenance form and show the
> record details.
>
> If the user clicks the locate button again, I load the search form with the
> grid and position the cursor to the record that was previous selected and
> the grid shows the correct record.
>
> The problem is when the user clicks on the grid, it repositions itself to
> the first page of the grid and now we are on the wrong record.
>
> Very weird ...  Has anyone seen this behavior and possible solution ?
>
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
>
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Re: How can you tell the difference programatically between Windows 8 and Windows 10 (from the desktop, not server versions)?

[Man-wai Chang]

Found an old post via Google:

Windows 10 returns same Win Version (6.02) as Windows 8.1 (Using VFP
OS() function)
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ba6983f6-c864-4051-9495-9e2cefdbeb5f/windows-10-returns-same-win-version-602-as-windows-81-using-vfp-os-function?forum=visualfoxprogeneral
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 1:50 PM
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>
> VFP9SP2
>
> According to http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~VFPFunctionOS, it looks
> like 8 and 10 return the same values?
>
> Windows 7   Windows 6.01OS(5) returns "7600" AND OS(11) returns "1"
> Windows 7 SP1   Windows 6.01OS(5) returns "7601" AND OS(11) returns "1"
> Windows 8 Dev Preview   Windows 6.02OS(5) returns "8102" AND OS(11)
> returns "1"
>
>
> Windows 8 (Release) Windows 6.02OS(5) returns "9200" AND OS(11) 
> returns
> "1"
> Windows 8.1 Windows 6.02OS(5) returns "9200" (why not 9600?) AND 
> OS(11)
> returns "1"
> Windows 10  Windows 6.02OS(5) returns "9200" AND OS(11) returns "1"
>
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Re: How can you tell the difference programatically between Windows 8 and Windows 10 (from the desktop, not server versions)?

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Time to make a Win32 API call? Or maybe just calling DOS command "VER"?

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 1:50 PM
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>
> VFP9SP2
>
> According to http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~VFPFunctionOS, it looks
> like 8 and 10 return the same values?
>

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Re: Test

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CONTACT Bearing unknown, distance unknown, altitude unknown. Meow!
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:06 PM Dave Crozier  wrote:
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> Test message to test our email spamfilter…. Mailsphere…. Yak!
>

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Re: FOXPRO 2.6A for DOS

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Sharing Foxpro/DOS will be sharing the product key. Unlike Visual
Foxpro 9, there is no generic key!

I doubt anyone would share it, especially when the Foxpro/DOS is owned
by one's company.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:05 PM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
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>
> >From where can I download a copy.
>
> Thank you


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Re: FOXDOC.HLP

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What's the error message?

Are you using Win 10 to open it? Win 7? You need the winhelp system installed.

Read:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_install-insiderplat_pc/winhlp32-do-we-have-to-go-through-this-again/ddcc2f40-e4f3-407b-9672-ee8a2b08a71e?auth=1

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 4:36 AM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
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>
> My FOXDOC.HLP  for fpw26a got corrupted.
>
> I don't know where I can get a copy.
>

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Re: IBM to buy RedHat

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On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:06 AM Ted Roche  wrote:
>
> For another out-from-left-field view of the situation, consider: "Red Hat
> takes over IBM:"
>
> https://www.cringely.com/2018/10/29/red-hat-takes-over-ibm
>

Caldera OpenLinux and SCO Xenix? :)

No... IBM is a lot bigger and IBM mainframes are still the backbone of
banking systems and Fintech.

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Re: .h files included or excluded in your project?

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Debugging? But it's unlikely for anyone to introduce errors into a
header file. :)

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 1:32 AM
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> VFP9SP2
>
> Since .h #INCLUDE files are only utilized at build time, is there any
> reason you'd want to include the .h files in the EXE?  I'm thinking
> "no."

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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

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On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:09 AM Ted Roche  wrote:
>
> I think Windows has gotten too complex for MS to understand. Shadow
> directories and fake redirections and everything dependent not on the OS or
> the File System, but the Registry, may just be a step too far.

Which means Micro$oft might need to rewrite it again? ;)

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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

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On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:46 AM Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
>
>
>   I am using PKZIP version 2.04g.  At 25 years old, it may be
> older than some of those Microsoft programmers.  It might work better, too.
>

7-zip is fine! I think it has a command-line version.

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Re: Print salary receipts to a pdf image

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Check out freeware virtual PDF printers? Even if you needed to pay for
commercial use, they were cheap.

https://www.google.com/search?q=freeware+pdf+printer

In Window$ 10, there is a Microsoft Print To PDF in Printers and
Scanners section.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 5:39 AM, Rafael Copquin
 wrote:
> I have the following requirement:
>
> Print a salary receipt to a company form, previously generated as a pdf file
>
> The application calculates the monthly salaries of the company's personel
> and issues a salary receipt for each employee.
> Now they print the receipt to a preprinted form with te company logo and
> the Treasurer's signature
> But they want to have the blank form, with the logo and static text,
> including the officer's signature on the form, to be filled with the salary
> data, employee name, deductions, etc and print the whole on a blank sheet
> by a laser printer.
> In this way the company will save the cost of having preprinted forms. They
> will simply use a letter size sheet to print each receipt
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Re: Ooopsy test

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D for Date()!

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 3:01 AM, Vinny Terrabella  wrote:
> Today's test message is brought to you by Sesame Street, and the letter 'D'.
> D for DOH!  and D for DUH! and D for Dumb for words we can't say on
> Sesame Street.
>
> Test

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Re: Bounces

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Count me as well and I am using Gmail.

"Your membership in the mailing list ProfoxTech has been disabled due
to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
09-Jul-2018.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
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> Anybody else getting too-many-bounces warnings from the list today, or is
> it just me?

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Re: Database design

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True... reminded me of the days when I needed to fix the Y2K bugs in a
MIS system based on Foxpro/DOS back in year 2000.

Luckily, nothing went wrong! BUT then, there was no change to the database! :)

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 7:20 PM,   wrote:
> Or an even simpler approach of 'if it aint broke, don't fix it'.
> Particularly in legacy systems where documentation is out of date or missing
> and some code does things you don't necessarily understand, just don't touch
> it.

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Re: Database design

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You are supposed to design the ER using the best normal form, at least
according to school textbooks! :)

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 12:30 AM,
 wrote:
> (VFP9SP2 app with MySQL backend)
>
> Some years ago I had created a solution where I had split the main data
> table into 5 separate tables, each with a 1:1 relationship.  I kept the
> commonly held fields in the table, and moved others off like so:
>
> On review, I think this just made more work and I should consolidate all of
> these fields inside the single Job table.
>
> Your thoughts on either design approach?

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Re: [NF] Best Practices for collaborative sharing of information

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A simple IMAP server should do, one that supports shared mailboxes.
Basically, you can run a BBS or web-forum with it.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:23 AM,
 wrote:
> The Corporate gig has tasked me with looking into a way for several similar
> organizations to communicate and share with each other things are the
> related to the success of all of them; a collaborative sharing of ideas,
> best practices, information, etc. to help the (healthcare) product as a
> whole.
>
> I have advised against a listserve as I don't feel that's friendly enough
> for sharing materials/files/stories.  I'm believing a forum would be best.

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Re: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN.

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I believe most shops would just go back to coins and bills so as to
keep doing their small business when there was network partition. Or
maybe the old way of signing credit cards. :)

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 2:43 AM, Thierry Nivelet
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> Hi Man-wai,
>
> FoxInCloud makes all this very simple:
> - all user state being stored on server side, in case of server of network 
> outage, user just retries until it’s fixed and resumes everything at the same 
> point without any loss of state or data;
> - FoxInCloud ships with a VFP database 2-way sync tool over LAN or Web; each 
> party asks the other party for records modified since a given date-time 
> (taking into account time zone and time drift on both sides); the matching 
> set of records is sent through the Network (LAN or Web). If nothing comes 
> back or received records are invalid, process just stops until we take 
> another chance; if sync fails for any reason (such as unique key violation), 
> process also stops. When process stops for any reason, all previous changes 
> are rolled back to keep DB consistency.
>
> All this comes out of the box: no extra programming, debugging and testing!


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Re: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN.

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But you cannot stop doing business with a network partition. You go
offline for a while usually :)

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> A network partition is always one of those events that we all say OH CRAP
> to and then pick up the pieces and carry on.  As it is always out of our
> control unless it was our switch/hardware that failed internally.
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Man-wai Chang  wrote:
>
>> When you go Cloud, You have to handle the worst-case scenario when a
>> network partition happens. And what should you do when the network
>> resumes operation after a network partition? How do you sync data
>> between local apps and the cloud apps? It's way too complicated, which
>> translates into extra programming, debugging and testing!
>>
>> A terminal server is always a better solution, in my limited opinion.

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Re: [NF] FTP Client

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If it's still the good, old FTP protocol, you don't need a new FTP client.

Would older versions of FileZilla work better? And Window$ 10 still
have the very old console-mode ftp client.


On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:15 PM, John Weller  wrote:
> I maintain a few very simple websites for some local charities.  I have been
> using Filezilla for years to upload to them but have recently had a peculiar
> problem.  I put the credentials for a new website into Site Manager and it
> refuses to logon but putting identical values into the quickconnect bar it
> logs on without a problem!  I'm baffled but rather than spend more time on
> the issue than I already have I'm looking for a fresh FTP client so my
> question is - what do you guys recommend, ideally free - I'm a cheapskate
> :-).
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
> John Weller
> 01380 723235
> 07976 393631
>
>
>
>
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Re: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN.

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When you go Cloud, You have to handle the worst-case scenario when a
network partition happens. And what should you do when the network
resumes operation after a network partition? How do you sync data
between local apps and the cloud apps? It's way too complicated, which
translates into extra programming, debugging and testing!

A terminal server is always a better solution, in my limited opinion.

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 7:30 AM, Paul H. Tarver  wrote:
> There have been more than one of my clients who make the move to the cloud
> only to find that key functionality that is required for their business to
> function properly is lost. This might be due to loss of direct access to
> their data, or worse, the cloud version of the ERP isn't nearly as complete
> or mature as the self-hosted product. Either way, it costs way more than
> just time and money. Sanity and common sense are often victims as well.

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Re: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN.

[Man-wai Chang]

Is it your ERP vendor? Or is it your boss? If it's the latter case,
you could not say no. :)

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> Our ERP vendor wants us to jump into the cloud in a multi-tenant data
> environment.
>
> Sucks for us having written many applications that read that data and
> present it to users to get things done that the ERP doesn't do today.

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Re: [NF] When to Update WIN 10

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Personal use: already using the most recent official build 1803. No
major problems, but my needs are basic.

Company use: no comments, and be careful of the auto-magical Win Update

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
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>  When are you planning to take the recent WIN 10 update?
> What are the advantages of waiting?
> What are the advantages of proceeding now?
> Thank you.
>

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

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Message received via Gmail.

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:37 PM,
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> I've sent 2 emails in the past week that never showed up (and aren't in the
> archives).  Testing to see if this gets through.



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Re: [NF] No Internet Connect

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Is your desktop also using wifi connection? Weird that only the laptop
and cell phone could talk to the wireless router.

If your desktop used wired LAN, set a static IP and see if it could
ping the router.

Since you are still in 1709, it's not the recent 1803 upgrade.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:11 PM, Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
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>
> Laptop and cell phone get the internet
> Question about upgrade good
> Didn't see it in Programs on Control Panel
> *
> Now, still 1709
>
> My Restore Points only go back to 5/4 when the problem of connecting began.
>
> Don't know how to get earlier Restore Points.


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Re: [NF] No Internet Connect

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On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
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> Starting Friday, Desktop has No Internet connection with WiFi
> Starting Friday, Desktop has No Internet connection with ethernet to router
> No DNS server

LAN DHCP failed? Is your wireless router working?

> OS:  WIN 64bit Home Edition

Window$ 10? Did you auto-magically upgrade to 1803?

> Network Trouble Shooter:

Forget about it!


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Re: [NF] How to block the Windows 10 April 2018 Update, version 1803, from installing

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I doubt Mr. Gates had anything to recent builds of Windows.

And you should blame the management, programmers and engineers in Micro$oft!

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 3:38 AM, Fred Taylor  wrote:
> Gr.  This update just forced itself on me yesterday without any
> warning, just rebooted and did the updating.  It took nearly 3 hours, yet
> again!
>
> Curse you Bill Gates

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Re: [NF] M$ teaches about AI (free)

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I no longer care about A.I., especially those developed by greedy
business persons and programmers! :)
I rather write my own analysis program using something like Visual Foxpro.

Cheers to Foxpro! :)

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:38 PM, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> Have not looked into this much have other irons in the fire right now.
>
> https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/02/microsoft-launches-entry-level-software-development-and-ai-courses/
>
> Saw a lecture on AI in an end user pharmacy app last night.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing

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CONTACT
Got this one

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:30 AM, Ken Dibble  wrote:
> Not receiving my own posts?
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Re: FoxPro/VB for Sale...

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With the freely available Visual Studio Community Edition, it'll be
hard to sell this one. :)

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:01 AM, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:
> I just came across this posting on CL. Its mainly for VB - and its and older
> version 6 - but, seems VFP is included. I just kinda got a kick out of it -

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Re: Date / Date Time Picker Class

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I posted a calendar control in FoxWikis
http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~CalendarControl~SoftwareEng

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:37 AM, Chris Davis  wrote:
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>
> Get Outlook for iOS
> 
> From: Chris Davis
> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 3:01:05 PM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: Date / Date Time Picker Class
>
> Can anyone recommend one which just works and is 100% VFP?
>
> I have tried the one from Sweet Potato but this seems to have a READ EVENTS 
> in the code somewhere which stops the calendar appearing on first click.
>
> I have also tried the ones in FoxyClasses but these are not 100% VFP and do 
> some odd things when bound to a field in a view.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris.
>
>
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Re: New Term: Zombie Language

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Some big companies are still using it... not popular though.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:
> Does anyone remember PL/I?

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Re: [NF] Anyone watch the liftoff yesterday?

[Man-wai Chang]

The main body was lost. ... I wonder whether they would recover it. as
it should be quite expensive to make a new one.

SpaceX confirms it lost the center core of the Falcon Heavy
https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/06/spacex-falcon-heavy-center-core-lost/



On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:
> I'm sorry I missed it. I heard he put a Tesla Roadster on the sucker - with
> a dummy he called Starman. I guessed he liked that old movie from years ago!
> Too bad I didn't watch the launch. I actually recently finished reading the
> bio on Elon - and it was an AMAZING Read! Its so wild - some almost reads
> like fiction. I seriously suggest some folks here should read that book!!!
> Its by Ashlee Vance.
>
> -K-
>
>
> On 2/7/2018 9:33 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>>
>> I loved all the Bowie in the end.  It made the mood feel "right" watching
>> it float in space.
>>
>
>
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Re: hellooo-o

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Felix The Cat? The wonderful wonderful cat? :)

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:39 PM, John Weller  wrote:
> Felix
>

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Re: [NF] I Was on the Radio Talking 3DP!

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I read news in black-and-white plain-text, foreign or domestic, Master! :)

Some examples:

'Shame and anger' at plastic ocean pollution
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42221262

Ocean plastic a 'planetary crisis' - UN
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42225915

Earth is becoming 'Planet Plastic'
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40654915


On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:
> Exactly!
>
> So - did you listen to the show? Just curious...
>
> -K-
>
>
> On 12/23/2017 8:47 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> Because of plastic pollution?
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:
>>>
>>> The radio show host is an Ecologist/Environmentalist! Although - if you
>>> think about it - and this guy's Show - it does NOT Make sense to have
>>> people
>>> talking about 3D Printing. If you don't know what I mean - first listen
>>> to
>>> the show - then ask me the question.
>
>
>
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Re: [NF] I Was on the Radio Talking 3DP!

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Because of plastic pollution?

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:
>
> The radio show host is an Ecologist/Environmentalist! Although - if you
> think about it - and this guy's Show - it does NOT Make sense to have people
> talking about 3D Printing. If you don't know what I mean - first listen to
> the show - then ask me the question.

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Re: [ADMIN] bounced off the list

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Same notice received. Also using Gmail. :)

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Ted Roche  wrote:
> Ed:
>
> Got this note this morning:
>
> Your membership in the mailing list ProfoxTech has been disabled due
> to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
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> you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more reminders like
> this before your membership in the list is deleted.
>
> And I'm back on the list. Just wanted to point it out in case Google
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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?

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Do words like "feature" and "bug" have legal standing? If not, well,
they do NOT bother anyone. :)

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 3:55 AM, Ted Roche  wrote:
> Windows is shipping new updates early this month. In the latest
> "Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition Update" version, they now have a
> pretty panel and call them "Feature Updates" rather than bug fixes,
> but you know what that means.


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Re: Windows 10 Home edition (was Re: Listbox auto-magically filters unwanted characters)

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If you are only using US English in language settings, nothing would go bad. :)

But I noticed that some differences regarding Chinese Hong Kong
Language Pack between Home and Professional. It seemed that Win 10
Home didn't install Hong Kong's Supplementary Character Set. I didn't
noticed the same problem with my old Win 10 Professional install.

Maybe I did something wrong, needed a few more Win 10 clean installs
to verify. I needed to test more carefully.

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski  wrote:
> ah that "I thought I heard"   How rumors are given birth.
>
> Nope, there's absolutely no difference between Windows Home and Windows Pro
> in regard of VFP9
>
>
> >
> > I thought I heard that Home edition didn't work as well with VFP apps.
> > Is that true?


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Listbox auto-magically filters unwanted characters

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I found that in WIndows 10 Home Premium, the system locale Big5 might
cause VFP's listbox not to display a row of data. When the locale was
English, all records were displayed without losing one.

Is it an expected behavior?

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Re: Fun thought

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I had asked for such a miracle :)

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:41 PM,
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> How cool would it be if Calvin Hsia and the rest of the VFP team or new
> folks were reactivated on VFP at M$?
>
> Yeah...just a fantasy but a fun quick thought for the moment!
>
> And now back to the real worldlol
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Re: [NF] "If it ain't broke..."

[Man-wai Chang]

Just trial-and-error? NO harm adventuring about new "toys"... just
don't push the changes to your production system by accident! :)

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:03 AM,
 wrote:
> My apps for literally over a decade now have used the MyODBC 3.51 driver to
> connect to MySQL (and now MariaDB), database version 10+.  It still works
> great and so my inkling is to stay with this old ODBC 3.51 version, but
> wanted to poll the virtual office here and see if others thought a more
> compelling reason to upgrade the ODBC version to something more recent.
>
> tia,
> --Mike
>
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Re: Reminder about VFP compound indexes and best strategy

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On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 5:09 AM,
 wrote:
> VFP9SP2 free table
>
> I've got a table with this structure:
>
> city c(30)
> state c(2)
> radius i
> distance i
>
> My query is looking for city, state, and radius, to get back those whose
> distance is <= InputParameter.

For Rushmore optimization, one index per field. Then use SQL to query
or sort. Do NOT build compound indexes unless you have special needs.

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Re: VFP - What upgrades would VFP10 have had...

[Man-wai Chang]

And browsers like Java Runtime? And now, Web Extensions since NPAPI
support is being dropped

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Ted Roche  wrote:
> Native runtimes on OS X, Linux and Windows.
>

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Re: VFP - What upgrades would VFP10 have had...

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64-bit DBF and data structures support
Unicode UI and report controls
Bridge with for dotNet stuffs?

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> Alan's comment post regarding VFP not having any upgrades put me in the realm 
> of thinking that IF VFP development had continued what updates and additions 
> we could have seen.
>
> Floor open to anyone with useful additions.
>

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Re: Child Prodigy

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I would be more amazed if this programming genius could build Visual
Foxpro compatible from the ground up and make all our old programs
work naturally. Meow >@.@<

It happened to Clipper the xBase compiler, called the Harbor Project.
But VFP is a lot more complicated and came with a Rushmore database
engine. :)

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Kurt at VRFX  wrote:
> How about this. Have the kid briefly speak about his start in programming
> w/FoxPro - then HE Intro's Dave!!!
>
> :-)

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Re: [NF] do you ever reboot all your servers?

[Man-wai Chang]

What ERP solution? Foxpro? SAP? Peoplesoft?

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 3:36 AM, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> We are rebooting all of our ERP virtual and IRON db servers a second time
> today.
>
> Who knows what went on but the messenger service to the ERP is not doing
> what is should.


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[FW] Programming language life expectancy

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From: Lynn McGuire 
Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
Subject: "Programming language life expectancy"
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:08:20 -0500
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"Programming language life expectancy"



"The Lindy effect says that what’s been around the longest is likely
to remain around the longest. It applies to creative artifacts, not
living things. A puppy is likely to live longer than an elderly dog,
but a book that has been in press for a century is likely to be in
press for another century."

"“We don’t know what language engineers will be coding in in the year
2100. However, we do know that it will be called FORTRAN.” — C.A.R.
Hoare"

Lynn


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