Re: [NF] Front Page on Unix
On 2/6/07, James E Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're considering moving our Front Page 2003 web site (currently hosted by Comcast). I don't use FP extensions, but noted this while shopping for a new hosting provider: Source: http://www.verio.com/unix-hosting-plans/ † What happened to FrontPage and FrontPage extensions? After nine years of being a popular Web authoring tool, FrontPage has been discontinued by Microsoft in late 2006. Effective June 30, 2006 support for the Microsoft FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions for UNIX has also been stopped by Microsoft. There are no plans for a FP2003 Server Extensions for UNIX release. Please refer to Microsoft for additional information. You may continue to use the FPSE kit that you have previously downloaded. There will be no future releases, bug fixes or security patches. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
Ted, additional information. You may continue to use the FPSE kit that you have previously downloaded. There will be no future releases, bug fixes or security patches. That, in a nutshell, is why I've been moving my web sites out of FrontPage and into Dreamweaver. But it isn't exactly a simple move if the site is a large one. FrontPage does not do things in a 'standard' way, any more than the rest of what Microsoft has put out over the years. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.shamrocktrails.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Front Page on Unix
Kristyne, What about using a CMS like Joomla? On 2/7/07, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That, in a nutshell, is why I've been moving my web sites out of FrontPage and into Dreamweaver. But it isn't exactly a simple move if the site is a large one. FrontPage does not do things in a 'standard' way, any more than the rest of what Microsoft has put out over the years. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Front Page on Unix
We're considering moving our Front Page 2003 web site (currently hosted by Comcast). A potential hoster we're talking to does not do Microsoft web servers, only UNIX. How feasible is it to run a FP web site on a Unix server? TIA James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Front Page on Unix
Almost all ISP will support the FP extension in their Unix and Linux environment. I would guess about 95% or better of ISP are running the apache web server on their Unix/Linux servers. Apache is a great web serve, and as I said, it will support FP extensions. Regards, LelandJ James E Harvey wrote: We're considering moving our Front Page 2003 web site (currently hosted by Comcast). A potential hoster we're talking to does not do Microsoft web servers, only UNIX. How feasible is it to run a FP web site on a Unix server? TIA James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
Kevin, The only issue would be if your FP site has data connections to a database that is not supported, or if the extensions are older than the ones your code is written to support. I've got sites that are using FP on Unix that have been running that way for many years. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
I've found one local provider, DE Jazzd, http://www.dejazzd.com/hosting/plans/shared.php and they have a plan that supports FoxPro tables dlls. We're not doing anything in that area currently, but it's nice to know we could when we decide to go that route. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Kevin, The only issue would be if your FP site has data connections to a database that is not supported, or if the extensions are older than the ones your code is written to support. I've got sites that are using FP on Unix that have been running that way for many years. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Front Page on Unix
I haven't used FP since I did my first install of window 95 a while back. I switched off FP as soon as I found another web page editor. I did a search on the web regarding the FP extension running in an Apache Server, and found some post that indicated minor issues with FP running in Apache, which were easily overcome with the right expertise. If you like a What you see is what you get web page editor, you might take a look at Coffeecup's VisualSite Designer. It creates web pages as CSS and allows for plenty of special effects to be added to objects on the web page. When the Objects on the web pages are published, they are transformed into .gif images. The CSS then calls the art from the CSS it creates, and places it in the correct location on the web page. VisualSite Designer is simple to use. I couple the VisualSite Designer with the Coffeecup html IDE to work on the same web page, and this make a very good combination to accomplish about any basic web page task. For more serious web applications I use perl, PostgreSQL, and Apache. I use the Komodo IDE to work with the perl scripts in which the html is streamed to the clients browser. Coffeecup has a lot of tools to work with Flash, but I generally try to stay away from Flash, since it requires a special plugin be installed on the client's browser. I run coffeecup VisualSite Designer and HTML editor in a Windows XP Pro Virual machine hosted in FC6, (eg the Coffeecup stuff only runs in windows). I FTP the published web site to my apache web server, which is running FC6. My web Server is on a credenza only feet away from my desk, which make the web server very convenient. It may be that Coffeecup's VisualSite Designer and HTML editor would be better suited to your task than FP. Here is a link to the Coffeecup offerings: http://www.coffeecup.com/software/ Regards, LelandJ James E Harvey wrote: We're considering moving our Front Page 2003 web site (currently hosted by Comcast). A potential hoster we're talking to does not do Microsoft web servers, only UNIX. How feasible is it to run a FP web site on a Unix server? TIA James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
Why don't you host it yourself? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:44 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix I've found one local provider, DE Jazzd, http://www.dejazzd.com/hosting/plans/shared.php and they have a plan that supports FoxPro tables dlls. We're not doing anything in that area currently, but it's nice to know we could when we decide to go that route. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Kevin, The only issue would be if your FP site has data connections to a database that is not supported, or if the extensions are older than the ones your code is written to support. I've got sites that are using FP on Unix that have been running that way for many years. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
I'm too old, too tired, too busy, too ... :) James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Why don't you host it yourself? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:44 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix I've found one local provider, DE Jazzd, http://www.dejazzd.com/hosting/plans/shared.php and they have a plan that supports FoxPro tables dlls. We're not doing anything in that area currently, but it's nice to know we could when we decide to go that route. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Kevin, The only issue would be if your FP site has data connections to a database that is not supported, or if the extensions are older than the ones your code is written to support. I've got sites that are using FP on Unix that have been running that way for many years. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
Then you may become too dissatisfied too. I'm not REALLY a control freak, it just seems that way! I wouldn't even think about putting my eggs in someone else's server. At least, not if I had my core business running off it. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:00 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix I'm too old, too tired, too busy, too ... :) James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Why don't you host it yourself? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:44 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix I've found one local provider, DE Jazzd, http://www.dejazzd.com/hosting/plans/shared.php and they have a plan that supports FoxPro tables dlls. We're not doing anything in that area currently, but it's nice to know we could when we decide to go that route. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Kevin, The only issue would be if your FP site has data connections to a database that is not supported, or if the extensions are older than the ones your code is written to support. I've got sites that are using FP on Unix that have been running that way for many years. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
You have a point regards being dissatisfied, we've never been totally happy, but I don't have enough knowledge to begin to even think about how to setup a web server. Also, our ISP is Comcast, and I hate even the thought of contacting them about getting enough bandwidth to properly run the site. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:05 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Then you may become too dissatisfied too. I'm not REALLY a control freak, it just seems that way! I wouldn't even think about putting my eggs in someone else's server. At least, not if I had my core business running off it. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:00 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix I'm too old, too tired, too busy, too ... :) James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Why don't you host it yourself? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:44 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix I've found one local provider, DE Jazzd, http://www.dejazzd.com/hosting/plans/shared.php and they have a plan that supports FoxPro tables dlls. We're not doing anything in that area currently, but it's nice to know we could when we decide to go that route. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Kevin, The only issue would be if your FP site has data connections to a database that is not supported, or if the extensions are older than the ones your code is written to support. I've got sites that are using FP on Unix that have been running that way for many years. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
I'm setting up a site for a client this week and he uses Comcast for his isp. You might want to look at getting someone to consult with you for setting up the IIS and teaching you how to administer it. It's really very straight forward. The issue of control is critical with me. I've had too many people promise me stuff, then fail miserably to put faith in someone else. If my project fails, I want it to be my fault, not someone else who is going to say, blah blah blah blah. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:22 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix You have a point regards being dissatisfied, we've never been totally happy, but I don't have enough knowledge to begin to even think about how to setup a web server. Also, our ISP is Comcast, and I hate even the thought of contacting them about getting enough bandwidth to properly run the site. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:05 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Then you may become too dissatisfied too. I'm not REALLY a control freak, it just seems that way! I wouldn't even think about putting my eggs in someone else's server. At least, not if I had my core business running off it. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:00 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix I'm too old, too tired, too busy, too ... :) James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Why don't you host it yourself? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:44 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix I've found one local provider, DE Jazzd, http://www.dejazzd.com/hosting/plans/shared.php and they have a plan that supports FoxPro tables dlls. We're not doing anything in that area currently, but it's nice to know we could when we decide to go that route. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix Kevin, The only issue would be if your FP site has data connections to a database that is not supported, or if the extensions are older than the ones your code is written to support. I've got sites that are using FP on Unix that have been running that way for many years. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
Frontpage sites will run but check the provider to see if they can run the FP extensions ( for things like in-site search engines, databases, email forms and so on) within a Unix environment. If your site uses FP extensions than you may have problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James E Harvey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Front Page on Unix We're considering moving our Front Page 2003 web site (currently hosted by Comcast). A potential hoster we're talking to does not do Microsoft web servers, only UNIX. How feasible is it to run a FP web site on a Unix server? TIA James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. bus: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Front Page on Unix
James, You have a point regards being dissatisfied, we've never been totally happy We're using www.lunarpages.com as are several others on this list. I've been extremely pleased with the quality of LunarPage's service (uptime, performance, customer service, price, features, and user forums). Highly recommended! BTW: They have both Linux and Windows plans. Both support FrontPage Extensions. (We're on their Linux plan - I have no experience with their Windows plan). Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
