Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote:
> I betcha they use them as references in their sales
> literature.
>
>   
I'll take that bet.  Beer at the next Fox meeting we see each other at!  
(Or virtual beer here.)


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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread Michael Madigan
I betcha they use them as references in their sales
literature.



--- MB Software Solutions
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > I haven't heard Rush's or Hannity's take on this,
> but
> > I would believe they are against this.
> >
> > This has pissed me off for a while, because I
> never,
> > never believed that the US wasn't producing enough
> > programmers to fill the positions.
> >
> > Someone should get a list of these douchebag's
> clients
> > and boycott them.
> >   
> 
> You'd be hard pressed to get a list of that law
> firms clients.
> 
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote:
> I haven't heard Rush's or Hannity's take on this, but
> I would believe they are against this.
>
> This has pissed me off for a while, because I never,
> never believed that the US wasn't producing enough
> programmers to fill the positions.
>
> Someone should get a list of these douchebag's clients
> and boycott them.
>   

You'd be hard pressed to get a list of that law firms clients.

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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread MB Software Solutions
Chet Gardiner wrote:
> Mike:
>
> If you don't like it, don't support it.  It IS us and them -- the people 
> vs. the corporations.
>
> http://www.programmersguild.org/
>
> Join and fight!
>
> (And STOP listening to the corporations mouthpieces -- rush and faux news)
>   

Definitely one for the Bookmarks Toolbar folder!

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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread Michael Madigan
I haven't heard Rush's or Hannity's take on this, but
I would believe they are against this.

This has pissed me off for a while, because I never,
never believed that the US wasn't producing enough
programmers to fill the positions.

Someone should get a list of these douchebag's clients
and boycott them.

--- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mike:
> 
> If you don't like it, don't support it.  It IS us
> and them -- the people 
> vs. the corporations.
> 
> http://www.programmersguild.org/
> 
> Join and fight!
> 
> (And STOP listening to the corporations mouthpieces
> -- rush and faux news)
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
> >
> >
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread Michael Madigan
No, this isn't the capitalist system.  These people
are, if not breaking the law, are breaking the spirit
of the law.

These are lawbreakers.

And these scumbag lawyers are no better than Nifong.



--- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Our goal is NOT TO FIND a qualified U.S. Worker.
> 
> And these folks probably think they're the "good
> guys".  They think (and 
> they ARE) fulfilling their purpose of counseling
> their clients about how 
> to fulfill the prime requisite of capitalism --
> maximize profits.
> 
> If you want to blame anyone, blame the capitalist
> system that naturally 
> produces these monsters...it's built into the profit
> motive.
> 
> Quelle suprise?
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
> >
> >
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread Michael Madigan
No, the department of justice appointments are
political appointments, and are legal.

These people are going around the law that says that
Indians should only get jobs that can't be filled by
Americans,



--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jun 23, 2007, at 6:32 AM, MB Software Solutions
> wrote:
> 
> > I couldn't agree more.  Deport these f*ckers to
> the worst hellhole in
> > this world.  They shouldn't have an American
> citizenship.
> 
>   Why? They haven't broken any laws. Listen to
> defenders of what has  
> been going on at the Dept. of Justice, and how they
> are using  
> political tests to determine who gets what jobs.
> Look at how they  
> fire anyone who investigates a Republican, or fails
> to charge a  
> Democrat. Is this unethical? Damn right! But try to
> find where they  
> have explicitly broken a law, and you'll be stymied.
> 
>   If we have a culture of "you can do anything that
> isn't expressly  
> prohibited, even if it is 100% against the spirit of
> the law", you  
> get these sorts of weasels proliferating. Welcome to
> the Real World.
> 
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> -- http://dabodev.com
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
Mike:

If you don't like it, don't support it.  It IS us and them -- the people 
vs. the corporations.

http://www.programmersguild.org/

Join and fight!

(And STOP listening to the corporations mouthpieces -- rush and faux news)


Michael Madigan wrote:
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
>
>
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
Our goal is NOT TO FIND a qualified U.S. Worker.

And these folks probably think they're the "good guys".  They think (and 
they ARE) fulfilling their purpose of counseling their clients about how 
to fulfill the prime requisite of capitalism -- maximize profits.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the capitalist system that naturally 
produces these monsters...it's built into the profit motive.

Quelle suprise?



Michael Madigan wrote:
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
>
>
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Why? They haven't broken any laws. Listen to defenders of what has  
> been going on at the Dept. of Justice, and how they are using  
> political tests to determine who gets what jobs. Look at how they  
> fire anyone who investigates a Republican, or fails to charge a  
> Democrat. Is this unethical? Damn right! But try to find where they  
> have explicitly broken a law, and you'll be stymied.
>
>   If we have a culture of "you can do anything that isn't expressly  
> prohibited, even if it is 100% against the spirit of the law", you  
> get these sorts of weasels proliferating. Welcome to the Real World.
>
>   

The Real World needs to change.  WE can empower that change at the 
voting booth (I hope).  Yes, those weasels should be deported too.  This 
country is too packed with idiots anyway.  Let's thin out the 
population.   

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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 23, 2007, at 6:32 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:

> I couldn't agree more.  Deport these f*ckers to the worst hellhole in
> this world.  They shouldn't have an American citizenship.

Why? They haven't broken any laws. Listen to defenders of what has  
been going on at the Dept. of Justice, and how they are using  
political tests to determine who gets what jobs. Look at how they  
fire anyone who investigates a Republican, or fails to charge a  
Democrat. Is this unethical? Damn right! But try to find where they  
have explicitly broken a law, and you'll be stymied.

If we have a culture of "you can do anything that isn't expressly  
prohibited, even if it is 100% against the spirit of the law", you  
get these sorts of weasels proliferating. Welcome to the Real World.

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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote:
> I think we should start a class-action suit against
> these a-holes and their clients.
>
> How much wasted time, wasted interview time, etc, when
> they don't want you to get the job anyway?
>
> These bastards should be sent to Gitmo and tortured.
>   
I couldn't agree more.  Deport these f*ckers to the worst hellhole in 
this world.  They shouldn't have an American citizenship.


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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-23 Thread Michael Madigan
I think we should start a class-action suit against
these a-holes and their clients.

How much wasted time, wasted interview time, etc, when
they don't want you to get the job anyway?

These bastards should be sent to Gitmo and tortured.


--- MB Software Solutions
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> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> No f*ckin way.  Check out the frame at 1:56 that
> says what that freakin' 
> tool said!  OMG!  If this isn't the smoking gun
> TRUTH, what's it 
> gonna take?
> 
> And the frame 3:20 explains why they list
> qualifications that only Jesus 
> Christ himself could have just so they can summarily
> dismiss 
> applicants!!!  You know the ads I'm talking
> about---where they list 500 
> skills required across all facets of IT!  NFW 
> And then at 4:05 when 
> she says that they bring a senior mgmt person in to
> find a legal reason 
> to disqualify them.  OMG!!  AGAIN---UNF*CKING
> REAL 
> 
> This is definitely a BOOKMARKED link now.  I'm going
> to forward it to 
> everyone I know...and you should to to expose this
> corporate corruption 
> and fraud  FIGHT BACK AGAINST
> CORRUPTION/FRAUD
> 
> Better off to forward Lou Dobbs' article url:  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsp2V3ifZjM
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-22 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote:
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
>
>
>   

No f*ckin way.  Check out the frame at 1:56 that says what that freakin' 
tool said!  OMG!  If this isn't the smoking gun TRUTH, what's it 
gonna take?

And the frame 3:20 explains why they list qualifications that only Jesus 
Christ himself could have just so they can summarily dismiss 
applicants!!!  You know the ads I'm talking about---where they list 500 
skills required across all facets of IT!  NFW  And then at 4:05 when 
she says that they bring a senior mgmt person in to find a legal reason 
to disqualify them.  OMG!!  AGAIN---UNF*CKING REAL 

This is definitely a BOOKMARKED link now.  I'm going to forward it to 
everyone I know...and you should to to expose this corporate corruption 
and fraud  FIGHT BACK AGAINST CORRUPTION/FRAUD

Better off to forward Lou Dobbs' article url:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsp2V3ifZjM



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[NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Madigan
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU


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