Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Ted Roche wrote: > "Expect 2007 to mark the beginning of the end of desktop software > development," > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/08/02FEspendappdev_1.html > > or http://tinyurl.com/yj34qv > > His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, > scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the > browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation > with the architecture, imo. > The artical as a whole doesn't have any substance to it. A lot of buzzwords, that's about it. In fact the more I read it the less it makes sense to me. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
> His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, > scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the > browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation > with the architecture, imo. what the on earth is desktop software development? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 ^ ^ 19:29:01 up 29 days 1:41 0 users load average: 1.02 1.02 1.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
About 90% of what all VFP development covers! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai CHANG Sent: 10 January 2007 11:30 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? > His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, > scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the > browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation > with the architecture, imo. what the on earth is desktop software development? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 ^ ^ 19:29:01 up 29 days 1:41 0 users load average: 1.02 1.02 1.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Man-wai CHANG <> wrote: >> His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, >> scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the >> browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation >> with the architecture, imo. > > what the on earth is desktop software development? Software that is designed to run on the local pc. WinForm vs Web in .net speak. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 4:12 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Dave, Out of interest 80 - 90%% of my Foxpro programs run in batch overnight on a server with no visual interface (Prob why VS6 is still good for my needs); is this your mythical 10% or are you thinking in a client server model? ::a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 10 January 2007 12:09 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? About 90% of what all VFP development covers! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai CHANG Sent: 10 January 2007 11:30 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? > His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, > scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the > browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation > with the architecture, imo. what the on earth is desktop software development? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 ^ ^ 19:29:01 up 29 days 1:41 0 users load average: 1.02 1.02 1.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Adam, I was thinking of any applications that run ON as client as opposed to in Client server mode. I guess that you can fall into either camp with that setup! You must miss the joy (not) of designing pretty user interfaces for petty users who don't know their a*ses from their elbows. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: 10 January 2007 12:17 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? Dave, Out of interest 80 - 90%% of my Foxpro programs run in batch overnight on a server with no visual interface (Prob why VS6 is still good for my needs); is this your mythical 10% or are you thinking in a client server model? ::a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 10 January 2007 12:09 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? About 90% of what all VFP development covers! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai CHANG Sent: 10 January 2007 11:30 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? > His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, > scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the > browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation > with the architecture, imo. what the on earth is desktop software development? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 ^ ^ 19:29:01 up 29 days 1:41 0 users load average: 1.02 1.02 1.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Did he mean we are moving back to mainframe era, now called servers? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 ^ ^ 20:58:01 up 29 days 3:10 0 users load average: 1.00 1.00 1.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
I got a kick out of this one because I've seen both sides and it allways amazes me when developers develop something without understanding the business process from end to end -Original Message- From: "Dave Crozier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? Date: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:28 am Size: 2K To: "'ProFox Email List'" Adam, I was thinking of any applications that run ON as client as opposed to in Client server mode. I guess that you can fall into either camp with that setup! You must miss the joy (not) of designing pretty user interfaces for petty users who don't know their a*ses from their elbows. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: 10 January 2007 12:17 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? Dave, Out of interest 80 - 90%% of my Foxpro programs run in batch overnight on a server with no visual interface (Prob why VS6 is still good for my needs); is this your mythical 10% or are you thinking in a client server model? ::a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 10 January 2007 12:09 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? About 90% of what all VFP development covers! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai CHANG Sent: 10 January 2007 11:30 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? > His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, > scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the > browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation > with the architecture, imo. what the on earth is desktop software development? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 ^ ^ 19:29:01 up 29 days 1:41 0 users load average: 1.02 1.02 1.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Dave Crozier wrote: > You must miss the joy (not) of designing pretty user interfaces for petty > users who don't know their a*ses from their elbows. > Have you got any pretty users Dave? tell me more ;-) Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
On 1/10/07, Peter Cushing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave Crozier wrote: > > You must miss the joy (not) of designing pretty user interfaces for petty > > users who don't know their a*ses from their elbows. > > > Have you got any pretty users Dave? tell me more ;-) > > Peter petty # pretty...unfortunately... A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I dunno! I know some pretty lasses that are a bit petty at times. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Posted At: 10 January 2007 14:56 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] The end of desktop software development? Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? petty # pretty...unfortunately... A+ jml -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Jean Laeremans wrote: > petty # pretty...unfortunately... > > Oops... should have SET DYSLEXIA OFF before sending Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working for ten years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some sort of set top box or thin client. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Peter, You obviously also need: Set GoForVisionTest ON Before posting! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: 10 January 2007 15:02 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? Jean Laeremans wrote: > petty # pretty...unfortunately... > > Oops... should have SET DYSLEXIA OFF before sending Peter [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
On 1/10/07, Dave Crozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter, > You obviously also need: > > Set GoForVisionTest ON > > Before posting! > > Dave Crozier Or more likely : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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> petty # pretty...unfortunately... It does too often for my liking... Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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> Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working for ten > years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some sort of set > top box or thin client. Oracle said that before, didn't it? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 ^ ^ 19:39:02 up 30 days 1:51 0 users load average: 4.41 3.96 2.78 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Man-wai CHANG <> wrote: >> Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working >> for ten years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some >> sort of set top box or thin client. > > Oracle said that before, didn't it? Like IBM is today? Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.8/621 - Release Date: 1/9/2007 1:37 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Man-wai CHANG wrote: >> Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working for ten >> years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some sort of set >> top box or thin client. >> > > Oracle said that before, didn't it? > > The term "grid computing" comes to mind for some reason. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
> Oracle said that before, didn't it? > Over the past 23 years I have heard rumors and prophecies about PCs vanishing in favor of Thin Client appliances, and huge Intranet/Internet/Centralized Servers managing the entire computing experience for "all" End Users. The only thing that vanished for the most part was the Thin Client appliances taking over the End User experience. False start after false start, and millions of dollars made vainly in Hype-Investment by those organizations deluded into thinking they were certainly the perfect candidate for this "brand new technology", only to have their organizations reverting to the more expensive (but more useful) PC-to-Server environment. Thin Client can functionally (not merely technically) work in the proper environment, but certainly not in all environments (or even most). Yet folks were "tricked" into thinking their company was perfect for Thin Net, and the sales person pushing them into the "new technology" had no realistic incentive to talk their customers out of a large commission expenditure. Time and again I have seen companies lose focus as their Thin Net efforts would crash and burn when trying to make Thin Net work at least as well as their more conventional (and previously operational) PC-Server architecture. So sad, yet funny as hell. Lemmings. I still remember Larry Ellison mouthing off about how Oracle was going to be the company to finally "make it happen". Enough said about Oracle's impact in making it happen I guess. Long ago false prophets were stoned to death, now they get rewarded for being dead wrong. Nothing so new as something too old (1-2 years) for the current management of a firm to be aware of in Thin Net's previous existence(s). Much less the reasons why the previous efforts met with failure for so many organizations. I have become very cautious about adopting any "new technology" (or Windows O/S) until it has been in the retail market for about 2 years. No more being the first in the water, 'cuz that be where the sharks lurk... Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Man-wai CHANG > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? > > > > Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was > working for ten > > years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some > sort of set > > top box or thin client. > > Oracle said that before, didn't it? > > -- > .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org > / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! > /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 > ^ ^ 19:39:02 up 30 days 1:51 0 users load average: 4.41 3.96 2.78 > news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
When you can develop an application from start to finish without having to ever worry about browser incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness of AJAX and ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will die. Long way off yet. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
=> Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? => => When you can develop an application from start to finish => without having to ever worry about browser => incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness of AJAX and => ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by => hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will => die. Long way off yet. => -- => Alan Bourke Bless you, Alan. Very well put. However could you please provide a definition for ... FIDDLINESS FURTLE Thank you. These are great words and a definition is in order, please. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Alan and Hal, I think that should be Fiddlyness and Furkle. Must admit Furkle is good and I use it a lot - meaning to interfere with or slightly "tweak". Anyway I'm going to grab my pizzle, check my merkin, Gold chest medallion and Beegees teeth and head for home! Have a good weeken all! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Kaplan Sent: 12 January 2007 16:29 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? => Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? => => When you can develop an application from start to finish => without having to ever worry about browser => incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness of AJAX and => ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by => hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will => die. Long way off yet. => -- => Alan Bourke Bless you, Alan. Very well put. However could you please provide a definition for ... FIDDLINESS FURTLE Thank you. These are great words and a definition is in order, please. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Nor have to depend on your phone or cable company connection!!! (the swine!) Alan Bourke wrote: >When you can develop an application from start to finish without having >to ever worry about browser incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness >of AJAX and ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by >hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will die. Long >way off yet. > > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:28:37 -0500, "Hal Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > However could you please provide a > definition for ... > > FIDDLINESS Fiddly (Adjective) Awkward to do or use, requiring a degree of manual dexterity > > FURTLE > Well, I used it in the South Yorkshire context of "messing around with, possibly in a furtive manner". However there is another very hilarious usage of an adult nature. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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At 06:12 AM 1/10/2007 -0600, Stephen the Cook wrote: ... > > > > what the on earth is desktop software development? > >Software that is designed to run on the local pc. WinForm vs Web in .net >speak. ... Or "smart" vs. "dumb" for in PHB-speak. ;-) -Charlie ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
Charlie Coleman <> wrote: > At 06:12 AM 1/10/2007 -0600, Stephen the Cook wrote: > ... > >>> >>> what the on earth is desktop software development? >> >> Software that is designed to run on the local pc. WinForm vs Web in >> .net speak. > > ... > > Or "smart" vs. "dumb" for in PHB-speak. > > ;-) Probably more of portal vs. non shareable content. I see lots more of a push for the portal content for lots of people to work with excel sheets that they have been doing for a long time. At least that is what I am seeing at my new day contract at least. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 1/16/2007 4:36 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
