RE: (NF) for HTML
Yes tools galore You can find any number of LAMP installs, so you can get up and running quickly, Also tons of sample code out there with PHP ready to work with Not to mention the code generators which can get an app running on mysql/php in a matter of minutes. Also and for us the best part is once you go mysql you don't have to loose your vfp experience or access to your data.. Easy enough to write a vfp app using mysql as it backend... also. Bob Lee -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 11:55 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: (NF) for HTML On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:29 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: As I mentioned in an earlier response, I hope to get away from a Windows server. I have had some experience with Postger and a bit less with MySQL and understand that there are tools to convert DBFs to SQL. Thanks for the suggestions on PHP and Python. This is the recommendations I am hunting for. --- As a .NET developer I have to say that you are missing an opportunity. HTML5, web services, building web services for your business partners, jQuery and a lot more. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/00f601cdd6eb$32c3e510$984baf30$@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On Dec 8, 2012, at 6:02 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: I looked in to Dabo some years on an XP box. Didn't get there. How easy is the set up today. and how well is it accepted by providers or are they gun shy? Dabo is simply a Python module, so there isn't anything special about installation. Same goes for the dependencies (wxPython and ReportLab). -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/13b26645-5c26-4b7e-9e3a-2a5e85832...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On 12/10/2012 10:29 AM, Bob Lee wrote: Easy enough to write a vfp app using mysql as it backend... also. Been doing that since 2004, inspired by your session at WhilFest! -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c6068f.40...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
The purpose of FoxInCloud is to run an existing VFP desktop app on the web, replacing the VFP UI by HTML pages with the same behavior (events and data), and the ability to enhance UI through CSS/JS. Client runs on any browser, any OS. As server runs VFP, it kinda requires Windows. As a foxincloud app is intrinsically secure, you can stick with an old version of Windows Server (2k, 2k3), you don't need all the hyper protection introduced with IIS 7. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 8 déc. 2012 à 03:20, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com a écrit : Thanks, do you know if FoxInClouds requires Windows? I'm hoping to get away from finding a provider that offers Windows. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: I've heard FoxInCloud is essentially HTML webpages - AFAIK - although I could be wrong. And, the creator is here on the list. Also, I've had some luck in converting VFP to MS SQL using the Wizard - and you can use the SQLExpress version to try it out for free. Although, I didn't go much farther than just trying to convert a single DBF - and didn't at the time continue on w/SQL... -K- On 12/7/2012 5:43 PM, G Gambill wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50C2735E.3000207@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c2735e.3000...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50c2735e.3000...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50c2735e.3000...@optonline.net -- Success builds confidence. Failure builds knowledge. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6749462b-bfb5--b3da-2dc080b47...@foxincloud.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
Kurt, Please find an answer to your question later in this thread. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 7 déc. 2012 à 23:53, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net a écrit : I've heard FoxInCloud is essentially HTML webpages - AFAIK - although I could be wrong. And, the creator is here on the list. Also, I've had some luck in converting VFP to MS SQL using the Wizard - and you can use the SQLExpress version to try it out for free. Although, I didn't go much farther than just trying to convert a single DBF - and didn't at the time continue on w/SQL... -K- On 12/7/2012 5:43 PM, G Gambill wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/242b7a99-bf04-4676-849b-b28a50bfb...@foxincloud.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On 12/07/2012 07:34 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Dec 7, 2012, at 8:20 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, do you know if FoxInClouds requires Windows? I'm hoping to get away from finding a provider that offers Windows. If you are looking to get away from Windows, then I think that that pretty much rules out all Fox-based approaches. I have found Python to be the language which most closely resembles Fox. No, the syntax isn't similar, but the approach is. Both are dynamic languages which are strongly-typed. PHP is dynamic but weakly-typed, and that causes a lot of problems when transitioning. Python also has a much stronger object model than PHP; it's much more similar to VFP in that regard. The other intangible with Python is the awesome community. People ask me why I still support the Fox community when I haven't worked with Fox in nearly 5 years, and I always tell them that it has an amazing community of extremely helpful people. That's exactly what I've found the Python community to be like, so if you're thinking of not just doing a one-off project, but instead looking toward the next phase of your development career, Python is certainly an excellent choice for many reasons. Oh, yeah - there's Dabo, too. I hear it's pretty cool. ;-) -- Ed Leafe +1 for Python. All of my non-VFP routines are in Python. I feel it is very Fox-like in the way you use it, and the syntax was very easy for me to pick up. Python is also like Profox in that you can get help and examples for everything. I interface VFP with the Google calendar using Python. Google provided all the code in their examples. HTH Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com www.arelationshipmanager.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c353b6.4050...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:29 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: As I mentioned in an earlier response, I hope to get away from a Windows server. I have had some experience with Postger and a bit less with MySQL and understand that there are tools to convert DBFs to SQL. Thanks for the suggestions on PHP and Python. This is the recommendations I am hunting for. --- As a .NET developer I have to say that you are missing an opportunity. HTML5, web services, building web services for your business partners, jQuery and a lot more. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAJidMYJomN8esCdszfdhZMHRL_8kRiBakfteY+YJFXsF4D=n...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: As a .NET developer I have to say that you are missing an opportunity. HTML5, web services, building web services for your business partners, jQuery and a lot more. What part of that has to do with .Net or Windows? Those are platform-agnostic. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/b339dbc1-7f08-4c0d-a824-2fd634a4b...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com wrote: On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: As a .NET developer I have to say that you are missing an opportunity. HTML5, web services, building web services for your business partners, jQuery and a lot more. What part of that has to do with .Net or Windows? Those are platform-agnostic. -- Exactly. It has noting to do with windows and everything to do with use of technology where .NET gives you everything you might need. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAJidMY+3jJDg=pxbevi2kchneayvms5upbmxzktmnhonujr...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On Dec 8, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: As a .NET developer I have to say that you are missing an opportunity. HTML5, web services, building web services for your business partners, jQuery and a lot more. What part of that has to do with .Net or Windows? Those are platform-agnostic. -- Exactly. It has noting to do with windows and everything to do with use of technology where .NET gives you everything you might need. But if the problem was having to find a provider that offered Windows... He's not missing any of that by moving to a platform that provides more options and flexibility, while at the same time being much, much more cost-effective. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/8c45d6d5-319a-4f7d-be71-12f571b65...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
In my opinion, staying with Windows only makes sense if you have Windows legacy code. Coding something new should be done in a more 'open' world. Thierry Nivelet FoxinCloud Give your VFP app a new life in the cloud http://foxincloud.com/ Le 8 déc. 2012 à 19:12, Ed Leafe a écrit : On Dec 8, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: As a .NET developer I have to say that you are missing an opportunity. HTML5, web services, building web services for your business partners, jQuery and a lot more. What part of that has to do with .Net or Windows? Those are platform-agnostic. -- Exactly. It has noting to do with windows and everything to do with use of technology where .NET gives you everything you might need. But if the problem was having to find a provider that offered Windows... He's not missing any of that by moving to a platform that provides more options and flexibility, while at the same time being much, much more cost-effective. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e1b79377-e83b-4d76-81b8-dcf5f1d31...@foxincloud.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
I looked in to Dabo some years on an XP box. Didn't get there. How easy is the set up today. and how well is it accepted by providers or are they gun shy? On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com wrote: On Dec 7, 2012, at 8:20 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, do you know if FoxInClouds requires Windows? I'm hoping to get away from finding a provider that offers Windows. If you are looking to get away from Windows, then I think that that pretty much rules out all Fox-based approaches. I have found Python to be the language which most closely resembles Fox. No, the syntax isn't similar, but the approach is. Both are dynamic languages which are strongly-typed. PHP is dynamic but weakly-typed, and that causes a lot of problems when transitioning. Python also has a much stronger object model than PHP; it's much more similar to VFP in that regard. The other intangible with Python is the awesome community. People ask me why I still support the Fox community when I haven't worked with Fox in nearly 5 years, and I always tell them that it has an amazing community of extremely helpful people. That's exactly what I've found the Python community to be like, so if you're thinking of not just doing a one-off project, but instead looking toward the next phase of your development career, Python is certainly an excellent choice for many reasons. Oh, yeah - there's Dabo, too. I hear it's pretty cool. ;-) -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAPpp0hVj5KraDE_7YWHKhij8+E7sKp-gLMcz1g5N1=p0wca...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
I've heard FoxInCloud is essentially HTML webpages - AFAIK - although I could be wrong. And, the creator is here on the list. Also, I've had some luck in converting VFP to MS SQL using the Wizard - and you can use the SQLExpress version to try it out for free. Although, I didn't go much farther than just trying to convert a single DBF - and didn't at the time continue on w/SQL... -K- On 12/7/2012 5:43 PM, G Gambill wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c2735e.3000...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
I would use MySQL (or Postgre) and PHP on the server. Of course that presumes that you're on a server that you have access/control of and can install MySQL + PHP (or use a company that provides such services.) Also, there's going to be a slight difference depending on whether the server is Windoze or Linux...my preference is Linux. I'm guessing that if you've been running FoxWeb, you're on a Windows server (and PHP will install and run on a Windows box.) Anyway, PHP is not that hard to learn and way powerful, very well supported. I'm sure others on the list would recommend Python, and I would join them in that recommendation, but I have no experience (yet) with Python. Regardless of where you go and what you do, moving away from the DBF file storage is a wise decision. Mike Original Message Subject: (NF) for HTML From: G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 12/7/2012 4:43 PM I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c2741b.9000...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
Hello George, I really like PostgreSQL as my SQL Server of choice, both for working in VFP and Real Studio. You can upsize your structures by using this utility: http://leafe.com/download/stru2postgreSQL.PRG I'm really like the Real Studio Web Edition for the ease of translating your VFP skills over into a cousin language to VFP. http://www.realsoftware.com/web/ ... and ... http://www.realsoftware.com/web/video.php -Kevin On 12/07/2012 05:43 PM, G Gambill wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c27998.80...@cullytechnologies.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:43 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Everybody hosting an app on the internet ought to know enough Linux OS, MySQL and PHP to get by. If you're serious about developing complex apps and support them long-term, you'll likely want to check out Python or Ruby. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACW6n4uRwQqckiwuxc20Mf6=+PtexkB5zx+8ikq8FZuWeF-=r...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
Thanks, do you know if FoxInClouds requires Windows? I'm hoping to get away from finding a provider that offers Windows. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: I've heard FoxInCloud is essentially HTML webpages - AFAIK - although I could be wrong. And, the creator is here on the list. Also, I've had some luck in converting VFP to MS SQL using the Wizard - and you can use the SQLExpress version to try it out for free. Although, I didn't go much farther than just trying to convert a single DBF - and didn't at the time continue on w/SQL... -K- On 12/7/2012 5:43 PM, G Gambill wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50C2735E.3000207@** optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c2735e.3000...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50c2735e.3000...@optonline.nethttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50c2735e.3000...@optonline.net -- Success builds confidence. Failure builds knowledge. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cappp0humofgtxo-cozqc+b+ywcfxryue7yxrahege5q07fz...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
As I mentioned in an earlier response, I hope to get away from a Windows server. I have had some experience with Postger and a bit less with MySQL and understand that there are tools to convert DBFs to SQL. Thanks for the suggestions on PHP and Python. This is the recommendations I am hunting for. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Mike Copeland m...@ggisoft.com wrote: I would use MySQL (or Postgre) and PHP on the server. Of course that presumes that you're on a server that you have access/control of and can install MySQL + PHP (or use a company that provides such services.) Also, there's going to be a slight difference depending on whether the server is Windoze or Linux...my preference is Linux. I'm guessing that if you've been running FoxWeb, you're on a Windows server (and PHP will install and run on a Windows box.) Anyway, PHP is not that hard to learn and way powerful, very well supported. I'm sure others on the list would recommend Python, and I would join them in that recommendation, but I have no experience (yet) with Python. Regardless of where you go and what you do, moving away from the DBF file storage is a wise decision. Mike Original Message Subject: (NF) for HTML From: G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 12/7/2012 4:43 PM I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50C2741B.9000103@** ggisoft.comhttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c2741b.9000...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/** 50c2741b.9000...@ggisoft.comhttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50c2741b.9000...@ggisoft.com -- Success builds confidence. Failure builds knowledge. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cappp0hxq6u9vlztkeqivauf3gc2jiwha0ygqsk4fw+glko2...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On Dec 7, 2012, at 8:20 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, do you know if FoxInClouds requires Windows? I'm hoping to get away from finding a provider that offers Windows. If you are looking to get away from Windows, then I think that that pretty much rules out all Fox-based approaches. I have found Python to be the language which most closely resembles Fox. No, the syntax isn't similar, but the approach is. Both are dynamic languages which are strongly-typed. PHP is dynamic but weakly-typed, and that causes a lot of problems when transitioning. Python also has a much stronger object model than PHP; it's much more similar to VFP in that regard. The other intangible with Python is the awesome community. People ask me why I still support the Fox community when I haven't worked with Fox in nearly 5 years, and I always tell them that it has an amazing community of extremely helpful people. That's exactly what I've found the Python community to be like, so if you're thinking of not just doing a one-off project, but instead looking toward the next phase of your development career, Python is certainly an excellent choice for many reasons. Oh, yeah - there's Dabo, too. I hear it's pretty cool. ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e5b09f34-e4d1-42da-9cd4-4a3bbbc82...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
Thanks Kevin, PostgreSQL is most likely my SQL of choice assuming the company of choice to provide the Web service supports it. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Kevin Cully kcu...@cullytechnologies.comwrote: Hello George, I really like PostgreSQL as my SQL Server of choice, both for working in VFP and Real Studio. You can upsize your structures by using this utility: http://leafe.com/download/**stru2postgreSQL.PRGhttp://leafe.com/download/stru2postgreSQL.PRG I'm really like the Real Studio Web Edition for the ease of translating your VFP skills over into a cousin language to VFP. http://www.realsoftware.com/**web/ http://www.realsoftware.com/web/ ... and ... http://www.realsoftware.com/**web/video.phphttp://www.realsoftware.com/web/video.php -Kevin On 12/07/2012 05:43 PM, G Gambill wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- __**_ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profoxhttp://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** listinfo/profoxtech http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profoxhttp://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/50C27998.80105@** cullytechnologies.comhttp://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c27998.80...@cullytechnologies.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/**50C27998.80105@** cullytechnologies.comhttp://leafe.com/reportAbuse/50c27998.80...@cullytechnologies.com -- Success builds confidence. Failure builds knowledge. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cappp0hwpotjvse15kngsvx8urhvj3czrngcs+n6m0+iw54p...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
Ted, at this point I don't see anything very complex. But, then, YHou know how that goes. Thanks On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Ted Roche tedro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:43 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Everybody hosting an app on the internet ought to know enough Linux OS, MySQL and PHP to get by. If you're serious about developing complex apps and support them long-term, you'll likely want to check out Python or Ruby. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cappp0hxy4hudu4rbhwaaqpck1movjj_9+38-cl0h8lqrlar...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
On 12/07/2012 04:43 PM, G Gambill wrote: I am looking to move away from a VFP/FoxWeb solution for new (and maybe old) web pages projects. I am looking for suggestions for converting existing VFP tables to some flavor of SQL and a quick learn language to support presenting the data to an HTML page. Any suggestions? George Perl is a strong language for web development. I use a number of tool for web app development including html, perl, css, javascripts, apache, and postgresql. Perl has tons of modules, (eg classes), that can be downloaded from CPAN, to do just about anything I need. Perl has many DBI modules to handle connecting with about any database I might be using. There is a special perl app written for the Apache Wed Server named mod_perl, that enbeds perl in the apache web server. It's easy to install in Fedora simply by selecting it from an Add/Remove application menu. http://perl.apache.org/ http://iain.per.ly/hooked-on-perl/ Most places distinguish them merely by using the appropriate value. Hooray for context... -- Larry Wall in 199708040319.uaa16...@wall.org LOL Regards, LelandJ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c2c6cc.6000...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: (NF) for HTML
One of the best and most flexible tools for converting DBF's to SQL is - - - FoxPro! On language choice - at least consider Java. AndyD 8-)# On 08/12/2012 02:29, G Gambill wrote: . there are tools to convert DBFs to SQL. Thanks for the suggestions on PHP and Python. This is the recommendations I am hunting for. snip ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/50c2cf8c.7060...@hawthorncottage.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Why HTML email is still bad in 2010.
Progress is your friend. LOL --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm Subject: [NF] Why HTML email is still bad in 2010. To: profox@leafe.com Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 5:29 AM http://ask.metafilter.com/159162/Is-HTMLformatted-email-still-bad-netiquette#2281967 Can we just ditch HTML altogether please ? -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1280050147.2671.1386606...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/873944.62449...@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF][JS-HTML] Submit -
OK, clicking the magic Send button again yields clarity th my addled brain. The JS validation function needed to be in the onsubmit event of the *form*. Litella (Sheesh) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Generic HTML and Logo Questions
On Apr 7, 2007, at 7:20 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: How do I FORCE a refresh when somebody loads a page ? Use these meta tags in the HEAD section: meta http-equiv=Expires content=Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT meta http-equiv=Cache-Control content=no-store, no-cache, must- revalidate meta http-equiv=Cache-Control content=post-check=0, pre-check=0 meta http-equiv=Pragma content=no-cache Even with those, some brain-dead, standards-ignorant browsers (no names, please; but the initials are I.E.) will still try to show how fast they are by showing a cached page. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Generic HTML and Logo Questions
Thanks Ed... Should have known that but I've been Nyquil-ing the last several days and I'm a bit fuzzy grin Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4799 Fax (830) 864-4726 Home http://www.bierschwale.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:46 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Generic HTML and Logo Questions On Apr 7, 2007, at 7:20 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: How do I FORCE a refresh when somebody loads a page ? Use these meta tags in the HEAD section: meta http-equiv=Expires content=Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT meta http-equiv=Cache-Control content=no-store, no-cache, must- revalidate meta http-equiv=Cache-Control content=post-check=0, pre-check=0 meta http-equiv=Pragma content=no-cache Even with those, some brain-dead, standards-ignorant browsers (no names, please; but the initials are I.E.) will still try to show how fast they are by showing a cached page. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
