Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Apr 27, 2007, at 9:28 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: >> >> I am beginning to suspect Leland and Ricardo are the same person. >> Only "Ricardo's" good spelling stands out as the differentiator. The >> cognitive dissonance is very nearly identical. >> >> - Bob >> > > Ok. But I left school long time ago, so I don't have fun anymore with > name calling. > Do you have any interesting argument besides that? Wow, do I have to spell it out? Maybe you should go back to school. OK. Argument was: There must be something wrong with the picture if Castro's dictatorship is intolerable, yet you list all these glorious achievements his dictatorship allegedly achieved. I suspect that "something wrong" is your inability to grasp the illogic of your argument, combined with the unreality of this great list of achievements. (How and earth can you trust the statistics of a brutal dictatorship that murders dissenters and impoverishes its people and in general controls all information flow coming out of it?) Anyway. I threw Leland into the mix because he and I have a long history of jovial ad hominem banter, and now that I'm "back" I feel obligated to catch up a bit. Leland at least is earnest and good-spirited, and enjoys dishing it out too. In other words, he's not just thick-headed, but thick-skinned too. ;-) I see you like to dish it out, but I'm not so sure about "earnest and good-spirited" or "thick-skinned"---but I'm sure if I really knew you I'd like you too. There are actually very few people I don't like on some level for some reason. - Bob > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Pete: On Apr 27, 2007, at 10:16 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: , I never hated the man to the core of my being >>> >>> Hi Bob! >>> >>> I did. I can't abide it when a man cheats on his wife. He is >>> basically >>> taking twice his share of the women, while I (and many other men) >>> don't >>> have one woman he has two. I say internment to the adulterers, >>> toss them >>> in with the faggots. >> >> Envy speaking there! > > Hi Ricardo! > > Fair is fair, I am entitled. Notice I don't propose killing them. Wow, you're really moderating in your old age. ;-) - Bob > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Saturday 28 April 2007 7:21 am, Pete Theisen wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 10:50 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > > > > > Very high alphabetization? Is this an Argentine idiom for what we call > > > "literacy rate"? Just wondering. > > > > Yes, you are right. There are a few expressions in english I don't know. > > Silly me, I'm sooo dumb! Perhaps we should start writing in spanish. > > Then maybe someone with so few language skills like myself could be able > > to convey his meaning. > > Hi Ricardo! > > If you post in Spanish there are several who *could* respond to you, Hi Again, Ricardo! Come to think of it, if you did post in Spanish it might add interest to the list, and perhaps draw new participants. Since your posts are relatively short, you could even do bilingual without being excessively long. However, *I* do not know enough Spanish to be one of the Spanish participants. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Friday 27 April 2007 10:50 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > > Very high alphabetization? Is this an Argentine idiom for what we call > > "literacy rate"? Just wondering. > > Yes, you are right. There are a few expressions in english I don't know. > Silly me, I'm sooo dumb! Perhaps we should start writing in spanish. > Then maybe someone with so few language skills like myself could be able > to convey his meaning. Hi Ricardo! If you post in Spanish there are several who *could* respond to you, However, i doubt that they would since they don't do [OT]. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 7:03 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: >> Michael Madigan wrote: >>> That's a good point. Unfortunately most of the Left >>> want the United States to cease to exist in favor of >>> some Communist Utopia. We see how well that's worked >>> in Cuba. >> Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power waging economic war >> against it. Yet they have some of the best Hospital and medical >> treatments, very high alphabetization > > Hi Ricardo! > > Very high alphabetization? Is this an Argentine idiom for what we call > "literacy rate"? Just wondering. Yes, you are right. There are a few expressions in english I don't know. Silly me, I'm sooo dumb! Perhaps we should start writing in spanish. Then maybe someone with so few language skills like myself could be able to convey his meaning. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Friday 27 April 2007 9:09 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > Pete Theisen wrote: > > On Friday 27 April 2007 12:27 am, Robert Calco wrote: > >> Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have managed to transfer > >> their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- the person of > >> George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological phenomenon. It > >> eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, which I fondly > >> recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of my being > > > > Hi Bob! > > > > I did. I can't abide it when a man cheats on his wife. He is basically > > taking twice his share of the women, while I (and many other men) don't > > have one woman he has two. I say internment to the adulterers, toss them > > in with the faggots. > > Envy speaking there! Hi Ricardo! Fair is fair, I am entitled. Notice I don't propose killing them. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Friday 27 April 2007 7:03 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > > That's a good point. Unfortunately most of the Left > > want the United States to cease to exist in favor of > > some Communist Utopia. We see how well that's worked > > in Cuba. > > Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power waging economic war > against it. Yet they have some of the best Hospital and medical > treatments, very high alphabetization Hi Ricardo! Very high alphabetization? Is this an Argentine idiom for what we call "literacy rate"? Just wondering. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Friday 27 April 2007 6:29 pm, Jerry Wolper wrote: > > The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the > > president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president uses > > the same power. > > LOL. The last time a Democratic President used those war powers, LBJ > was so beloved that he decided not to run for reelection. Hi Jerry! You missed C-man's little wars? Oh, well - you must have been distracted. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Michael Madigan wrote: > Maybe Leland is the good personality and Ricardo is > the evil personality. > But Mikey! Why do you say such a nasty thing about me? With all the fun I have with you! And now this? Next thing you'll be growing some brains hahahaha > > --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Apr 27, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: >>> Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power >> waging economic war >>> against it. Yet they have some of the best >> Hospital and medical >>> treatments, very high alphabetization, very high >> education rates. >>> And if you consider that when it belonged to the >> 'Free World' it was >>> just a 'back yard brothel', there's nothing much >> to say about it. >>> That said, I should point out that I don't like >> Castro's dictatorship. >> >> I am beginning to suspect Leland and Ricardo are the >> same person. >> Only "Ricardo's" good spelling stands out as the >> differentiator. The >> cognitive dissonance is very nearly identical. >> >> - Bob >> ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Robert Calco wrote: > On Apr 27, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: >> Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power waging economic war >> against it. Yet they have some of the best Hospital and medical >> treatments, very high alphabetization, very high education rates. >> And if you consider that when it belonged to the 'Free World' it was >> just a 'back yard brothel', there's nothing much to say about it. >> >> That said, I should point out that I don't like Castro's dictatorship. > > I am beginning to suspect Leland and Ricardo are the same person. > Only "Ricardo's" good spelling stands out as the differentiator. The > cognitive dissonance is very nearly identical. > > - Bob > Ok. But I left school long time ago, so I don't have fun anymore with name calling. Do you have any interesting argument besides that? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Michael Madigan wrote: > It's just so wonderful there that people are floating > on rafts through shark-infested waters to get to the > United States. > > You wouldn't think people would be trying to get out > of the Garden of Eden. > > Was about to answer when it hit me. There is nothing to answer to. There's no real argument in what you say. > > --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Michael Madigan wrote: >>> That's a good point. Unfortunately most of the >> Left >>> want the United States to cease to exist in favor >> of >>> some Communist Utopia. We see how well that's >> worked >>> in Cuba. >>> >> Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power >> waging economic war >> against it. Yet they have some of the best Hospital >> and medical >> treatments, very high alphabetization, very high >> education rates. >> And if you consider that when it belonged to the >> 'Free World' it was >> just a 'back yard brothel', there's nothing much to >> say about it. >> >> That said, I should point out that I don't like >> Castro's dictatorship. >> >> >> ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Maybe Leland is the good personality and Ricardo is the evil personality. --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > > > > Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power > waging economic war > > against it. Yet they have some of the best > Hospital and medical > > treatments, very high alphabetization, very high > education rates. > > And if you consider that when it belonged to the > 'Free World' it was > > just a 'back yard brothel', there's nothing much > to say about it. > > > > That said, I should point out that I don't like > Castro's dictatorship. > > I am beginning to suspect Leland and Ricardo are the > same person. > Only "Ricardo's" good spelling stands out as the > differentiator. The > cognitive dissonance is very nearly identical. > > - Bob > > ___ > Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com > Subscription Maintenance: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > Searchable Archive: > http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > This message: > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, > are the opinions of the author, and do not > constitute legal or medical advice. This statement > is added to the messages for those lawyers who are > too stupid to see the obvious. > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 12:27 am, Robert Calco wrote: >> Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have managed to transfer >> their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- the person of >> George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological phenomenon. It >> eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, which I fondly >> recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of my being > > Hi Bob! > > I did. I can't abide it when a man cheats on his wife. He is basically taking > twice his share of the women, while I (and many other men) don't have one > woman he has two. I say internment to the adulterers, toss them in with the > faggots. Envy speaking there! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Apr 27, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > > Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power waging economic war > against it. Yet they have some of the best Hospital and medical > treatments, very high alphabetization, very high education rates. > And if you consider that when it belonged to the 'Free World' it was > just a 'back yard brothel', there's nothing much to say about it. > > That said, I should point out that I don't like Castro's dictatorship. I am beginning to suspect Leland and Ricardo are the same person. Only "Ricardo's" good spelling stands out as the differentiator. The cognitive dissonance is very nearly identical. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Of course we're leaving out Clinton's bombing of the Christian Nation of Serbia to save valuable Muslim lives. --- Jerry Wolper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The current whining, however, is over the > administration's use of the > > president's war powers. They never say anything > when a D president uses > > the same power. > > LOL. The last time a Democratic President used those > war powers, LBJ > was so beloved that he decided not to run for > reelection. > > -Jerry Wolper > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com > Subscription Maintenance: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > Searchable Archive: > http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > This message: > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, > are the opinions of the author, and do not > constitute legal or medical advice. This statement > is added to the messages for those lawyers who are > too stupid to see the obvious. > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
It's just so wonderful there that people are floating on rafts through shark-infested waters to get to the United States. You wouldn't think people would be trying to get out of the Garden of Eden. --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > > That's a good point. Unfortunately most of the > Left > > want the United States to cease to exist in favor > of > > some Communist Utopia. We see how well that's > worked > > in Cuba. > > > > Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power > waging economic war > against it. Yet they have some of the best Hospital > and medical > treatments, very high alphabetization, very high > education rates. > And if you consider that when it belonged to the > 'Free World' it was > just a 'back yard brothel', there's nothing much to > say about it. > > That said, I should point out that I don't like > Castro's dictatorship. > > > > > > --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Its not that they are being duped. > >> Its that people have a natural tendency to do > >> "empire building", whether it > >> be at work, or elsewhere and when they do that > they > >> surround themselves with > >> like minded people, typically "yes men". > >> > >> That's why I would much rather see organizations > or > >> groups made up of people > >> that don't necessarily see eye to eye, BUT they > >> agree on the final > >> destination > >> > >> Virgil Bierschwale > >> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate > >> (830) 329-6774 Cell > >> (830) 864-4799 Fax > >> (830) 864-4726 Home > >> http://www.bierschwale.com > >> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com > >> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >> Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:34 PM > >> To: ProFox Email List > >> Subject: Re: [OT] Signs of the Times > >> > >> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US > >> Constitutional form of > >> government by any means, if its against the > wishes > >> of the American > >> people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American > >> people have and are > >> being duped. Overthrow of the American > government > >> by other mean such as > >> treachery and deceit should also be illegal. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> LelandJ > >> > >> Pete Theisen wrote: > >>> On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F. > >> Jackson, CPA wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and > some > >> members of the Radical > >>>> Religious Righters were working toward a goal > of > >> establishing a new form > >>>> of government for the "New American Century", > >> what do you think the > >>>> punishment should be? > >>>> > >>> Hi Leland! > >>> > >>> I think everything they have done and are doing > is > >> legal and if so, there > >>> should be no witch hunt to begin with, and > >> certainly no punishment. It is > >>> legal to attempt to change the government by > >> peaceful means. > >>> > >>>> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical > harm? > >> As in "support peace or > >>>> I'll kill you"? > >>>> > >> > >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Michael Madigan wrote: > That's a good point. Unfortunately most of the Left > want the United States to cease to exist in favor of > some Communist Utopia. We see how well that's worked > in Cuba. > Yep! Small island, with the greatest world power waging economic war against it. Yet they have some of the best Hospital and medical treatments, very high alphabetization, very high education rates. And if you consider that when it belonged to the 'Free World' it was just a 'back yard brothel', there's nothing much to say about it. That said, I should point out that I don't like Castro's dictatorship. > > --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Its not that they are being duped. >> Its that people have a natural tendency to do >> "empire building", whether it >> be at work, or elsewhere and when they do that they >> surround themselves with >> like minded people, typically "yes men". >> >> That's why I would much rather see organizations or >> groups made up of people >> that don't necessarily see eye to eye, BUT they >> agree on the final >> destination >> >> Virgil Bierschwale >> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate >> (830) 329-6774 Cell >> (830) 864-4799 Fax >> (830) 864-4726 Home >> http://www.bierschwale.com >> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com >> http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:34 PM >> To: ProFox Email List >> Subject: Re: [OT] Signs of the Times >> >> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US >> Constitutional form of >> government by any means, if its against the wishes >> of the American >> people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American >> people have and are >> being duped. Overthrow of the American government >> by other mean such as >> treachery and deceit should also be illegal. >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> Pete Theisen wrote: >>> On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F. >> Jackson, CPA wrote: >>> >>> >>>> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some >> members of the Radical >>>> Religious Righters were working toward a goal of >> establishing a new form >>>> of government for the "New American Century", >> what do you think the >>>> punishment should be? >>>> >>> Hi Leland! >>> >>> I think everything they have done and are doing is >> legal and if so, there >>> should be no witch hunt to begin with, and >> certainly no punishment. It is >>> legal to attempt to change the government by >> peaceful means. >>> >>>> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? >> As in "support peace or >>>> I'll kill you"? >>>> >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
> The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the > president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president uses > the same power. LOL. The last time a Democratic President used those war powers, LBJ was so beloved that he decided not to run for reelection. -Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Signs of the Times
Vince, good call ... v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Teachout Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:47 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Signs of the Times Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > There is a trail of rot making its way Whenever an article starts out this way, my "objectivity meter" goes into the negative, and I toss/delete the article. No matter who wrote it, or who it's about. (aren't I the self-righteous prig?) -- Vince Teachout Caracal Software www.caracal.net 518-733-9411 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Friday 27 April 2007 12:44 am, Robert Calco wrote: > >>> Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we > >>> have today, I would have remembered that! > >> > >> They were wholly behind him and sounded outright neo-conservative! > > > > ... I think Leland knew what I meant LOL. > > That should have been your first clue that what you said didn't make > sense. :P > > BTW Pete we have to get together some time, me you and Stephen Wolfe. > (And anyone else who lives in the Tampa area and doesn't mind > imbibing moderate quantities of properly chilled adult libations with > radical republican machiavellian theocratic right wing neo- > conservative one-party juggernauts.) Hi Bob! "Not a peep" (sometimes "nary a peep") is an idiom, although I can't remember anyone younger than 60 using it. I'm diabetic and not much of a drinker, also, I am shockingly liberal on economics - you guys might not like me :-) That said, I expect to be off on Wednesdays all summer. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 12:27 am, Robert Calco wrote: >> Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have managed to transfer >> their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- the person of >> George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological phenomenon. It >> eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, which I fondly >> recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of my being > > Hi Bob! > > I did. I can't abide it when a man cheats on his wife. He is > basically taking > twice his share of the women, while I (and many other men) don't > have one > woman he has two. Paradoxically, I might understand your passion if I believed Hillary! was heterosexual Also I think you hugely undercount how many women Bubba had... ;-) - Bob > I say internment to the adulterers, toss them in with the > faggots. > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
>>> Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we >>> have today, I would have remembered that! >> >> They were wholly behind him and sounded outright neo-conservative! > > Hi Bob! > > ... I think Leland knew > what I meant LOL. That should have been your first clue that what you said didn't make sense. :P BTW Pete we have to get together some time, me you and Stephen Wolfe. (And anyone else who lives in the Tampa area and doesn't mind imbibing moderate quantities of properly chilled adult libations with radical republican machiavellian theocratic right wing neo- conservative one-party juggernauts.) ;) - Bob > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Friday 27 April 2007 12:27 am, Robert Calco wrote: > Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have managed to transfer > their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- the person of > George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological phenomenon. It > eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, which I fondly > recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of my being Hi Bob! I did. I can't abide it when a man cheats on his wife. He is basically taking twice his share of the women, while I (and many other men) don't have one woman he has two. I say internment to the adulterers, toss them in with the faggots. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Thursday 26 April 2007 11:53 pm, Robert Calco wrote: > >>> Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what > >>> the president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al > >>> Qaeda in the desert and not a peep from the Ds. > >> > >> That's not entirely accurate. Fix your MP3 player and listen to the > >> quotes I sent out in my 'Name Those Voices' thread > >> > >> They weren't exactly quiet. > > Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we > > have today, I would have remembered that! > > They were wholly behind him and sounded outright neo-conservative! Hi Bob! OK, I should have said not a *negative* peep from them. I think Leland knew what I meant LOL. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Bob, They hate Bush because he believes that Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior. Had Bush been an Atheist, there wouldn't be the hatred for him that there is. --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have > managed to transfer > their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- > the person of > George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological > phenomenon. It > eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, > which I fondly > recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of > my being, like > these people hate Dubya, I just found him absurd and > embarrassing. > Hell I find Bush absurd and embarrassing, especially > when attempting > to speak off the cuff on camera, but I don't think > he's either stupid > or evil. And I never meditated on his potential > assassination or > wished America would lose in Kosivo over my beliefs > about his character. > > Someone supposedly so stupid and so evil duped so > many people who > consider themselves so smart and so righteous---how > do they look > themselves in the mirror, I wonder? > > Hate and lust for power ooze out of everything Reid > says and Pelosi > does. > > (Seriously---she'll go across the world to visit > Bashir Assad, and > offer idly to visit with Adolf Amadinutjob---but > doesn't have time to > meet General Patraeus before a vote basically > telling him he's full > of sh*t?) > > - Bob > > On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:08 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > > > When the Islamofascists celebrated the Democratic > > Victory in November, you know the Bush > administration > > did the right thing in invading Iraq. > > > > > > > > --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> In all seriousness, that half our population has > >> forgotten -- > >> literally forgotten -- our collective complicity > in > >> debating whether > >> to invade Iraq not once, but twice, and accepting > >> the argument of pre- > >> emption (not "immanent threat" as some like to > >> recast the past) as > >> sufficient grounds to do what we did on a large > >> BIPARTISAN basis > >> means we're about due for another reminder what > that > >> was all about. > >> > >> Sad, but it's on its way. Get ready. > >> > >> - Bob > >> > >> On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Leland F. Jackson, > CPA > >> wrote: > >> > >>> What war? The war on terrorism is not really a > >> war that should > >>> qualify > >>> the president to claim war time powers, any more > >> that the war on > >>> drug is > >>> a real war, or the war on poverty, etc. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> LelandJ > >>> > >>> Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. > >> Jackson, CPA wrote: > > > I don't think its legal to overthrow the US > >> Constitutional form of > > government by any means, if its against the > >> wishes of the American > > people. As Bill Arnold would say, the > American > >> people have and are > > being duped. Overthrow of the American > >> government by other mean > > such as > > treachery and deceit should also be illegal. > > > > Hi Leland! > > You are wrong. The constitution itself provides > >> an amendment > process, Article > V. > > The current whining, however, is over the > >> administration's use of the > president's war powers. They never say anything > >> when a D president > uses the > same power. > > >>> > >>> > >>> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have managed to transfer their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- the person of George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological phenomenon. It eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, which I fondly recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of my being, like these people hate Dubya, I just found him absurd and embarrassing. Hell I find Bush absurd and embarrassing, especially when attempting to speak off the cuff on camera, but I don't think he's either stupid or evil. And I never meditated on his potential assassination or wished America would lose in Kosivo over my beliefs about his character. Someone supposedly so stupid and so evil duped so many people who consider themselves so smart and so righteous---how do they look themselves in the mirror, I wonder? Hate and lust for power ooze out of everything Reid says and Pelosi does. (Seriously---she'll go across the world to visit Bashir Assad, and offer idly to visit with Adolf Amadinutjob---but doesn't have time to meet General Patraeus before a vote basically telling him he's full of sh*t?) - Bob On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:08 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > When the Islamofascists celebrated the Democratic > Victory in November, you know the Bush administration > did the right thing in invading Iraq. > > > > --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In all seriousness, that half our population has >> forgotten -- >> literally forgotten -- our collective complicity in >> debating whether >> to invade Iraq not once, but twice, and accepting >> the argument of pre- >> emption (not "immanent threat" as some like to >> recast the past) as >> sufficient grounds to do what we did on a large >> BIPARTISAN basis >> means we're about due for another reminder what that >> was all about. >> >> Sad, but it's on its way. Get ready. >> >> - Bob >> >> On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA >> wrote: >> >>> What war? The war on terrorism is not really a >> war that should >>> qualify >>> the president to claim war time powers, any more >> that the war on >>> drug is >>> a real war, or the war on poverty, etc. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> LelandJ >>> >>> Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. >> Jackson, CPA wrote: > I don't think its legal to overthrow the US >> Constitutional form of > government by any means, if its against the >> wishes of the American > people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American >> people have and are > being duped. Overthrow of the American >> government by other mean > such as > treachery and deceit should also be illegal. > Hi Leland! You are wrong. The constitution itself provides >> an amendment process, Article V. The current whining, however, is over the >> administration's use of the president's war powers. They never say anything >> when a D president uses the same power. >>> >>> >>> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
When the Islamofascists celebrated the Democratic Victory in November, you know the Bush administration did the right thing in invading Iraq. --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In all seriousness, that half our population has > forgotten -- > literally forgotten -- our collective complicity in > debating whether > to invade Iraq not once, but twice, and accepting > the argument of pre- > emption (not "immanent threat" as some like to > recast the past) as > sufficient grounds to do what we did on a large > BIPARTISAN basis > means we're about due for another reminder what that > was all about. > > Sad, but it's on its way. Get ready. > > - Bob > > On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA > wrote: > > > What war? The war on terrorism is not really a > war that should > > qualify > > the president to claim war time powers, any more > that the war on > > drug is > > a real war, or the war on poverty, etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > LelandJ > > > > Pete Theisen wrote: > >> On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. > Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> > >>> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US > Constitutional form of > >>> government by any means, if its against the > wishes of the American > >>> people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American > people have and are > >>> being duped. Overthrow of the American > government by other mean > >>> such as > >>> treachery and deceit should also be illegal. > >>> > >> > >> Hi Leland! > >> > >> You are wrong. The constitution itself provides > an amendment > >> process, Article > >> V. > >> > >> The current whining, however, is over the > administration's use of the > >> president's war powers. They never say anything > when a D president > >> uses the > >> same power. > >> > > > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
In all seriousness, that half our population has forgotten -- literally forgotten -- our collective complicity in debating whether to invade Iraq not once, but twice, and accepting the argument of pre- emption (not "immanent threat" as some like to recast the past) as sufficient grounds to do what we did on a large BIPARTISAN basis means we're about due for another reminder what that was all about. Sad, but it's on its way. Get ready. - Bob On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > What war? The war on terrorism is not really a war that should > qualify > the president to claim war time powers, any more that the war on > drug is > a real war, or the war on poverty, etc. > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > Pete Theisen wrote: >> On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: >> >>> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of >>> government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American >>> people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are >>> being duped. Overthrow of the American government by other mean >>> such as >>> treachery and deceit should also be illegal. >>> >> >> Hi Leland! >> >> You are wrong. The constitution itself provides an amendment >> process, Article >> V. >> >> The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the >> president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president >> uses the >> same power. >> > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 26 April 2007 11:26 pm, Robert Calco wrote: >> On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: >>> Hi Leland! >>> >>> Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what >>> the >>> president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al >>> Qaeda in >>> the desert and not a peep from the Ds. >> >> Pete: >> >> That's not entirely accurate. Fix your MP3 player and listen to the >> quotes I sent out in my 'Name Those Voices' thread >> >> They weren't exactly quiet. > > Hi Bob! > > Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we > have today, I > would have remembered that! They were wholly behind him and sounded outright neo-conservative! - Bob > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Thursday 26 April 2007 11:26 pm, Robert Calco wrote: > On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: > > Hi Leland! > > > > Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what the > > president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al > > Qaeda in > > the desert and not a peep from the Ds. > > Pete: > > That's not entirely accurate. Fix your MP3 player and listen to the > quotes I sent out in my 'Name Those Voices' thread > > They weren't exactly quiet. Hi Bob! Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we have today, I would have remembered that! -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: > > Hi Leland! > > Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what the > president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al > Qaeda in > the desert and not a peep from the Ds. > Pete: That's not entirely accurate. Fix your MP3 player and listen to the quotes I sent out in my 'Name Those Voices' thread They weren't exactly quiet. - Bob > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Friday 27 April 2007 12:04 am, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > What war? The war on terrorism is not really a war that should qualify > the president to claim war time powers, any more that the war on drug is > a real war, or the war on poverty, etc. Hi Leland! Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what the president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al Qaeda in the desert and not a peep from the Ds. > > On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of > >> government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American > >> people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are > >> being duped. Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as > >> treachery and deceit should also be illegal. > > You are wrong. The constitution itself provides an amendment process, > > Article V. > > > > The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the > > president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president uses > > the same power. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
What war? The war on terrorism is not really a war that should qualify the president to claim war time powers, any more that the war on drug is a real war, or the war on poverty, etc. Regards, LelandJ Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of >> government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American >> people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are >> being duped. Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as >> treachery and deceit should also be illegal. >> > > Hi Leland! > > You are wrong. The constitution itself provides an amendment process, Article > V. > > The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the > president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president uses the > same power. > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of > government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American > people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are > being duped. Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as > treachery and deceit should also be illegal. Hi Leland! You are wrong. The constitution itself provides an amendment process, Article V. The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president uses the same power. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Signs of the Times
That's a good point. Unfortunately most of the Left want the United States to cease to exist in favor of some Communist Utopia. We see how well that's worked in Cuba. --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its not that they are being duped. > Its that people have a natural tendency to do > "empire building", whether it > be at work, or elsewhere and when they do that they > surround themselves with > like minded people, typically "yes men". > > That's why I would much rather see organizations or > groups made up of people > that don't necessarily see eye to eye, BUT they > agree on the final > destination > > Virgil Bierschwale > Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate > (830) 329-6774 Cell > (830) 864-4799 Fax > (830) 864-4726 Home > http://www.bierschwale.com > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com > http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:34 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Signs of the Times > > I don't think its legal to overthrow the US > Constitutional form of > government by any means, if its against the wishes > of the American > people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American > people have and are > being duped. Overthrow of the American government > by other mean such as > treachery and deceit should also be illegal. > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > Pete Theisen wrote: > > On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F. > Jackson, CPA wrote: > > > > > >> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some > members of the Radical > >> Religious Righters were working toward a goal of > establishing a new form > >> of government for the "New American Century", > what do you think the > >> punishment should be? > >> > > > > Hi Leland! > > > > I think everything they have done and are doing is > legal and if so, there > > should be no witch hunt to begin with, and > certainly no punishment. It is > > legal to attempt to change the government by > peaceful means. > > > > > >> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? > As in "support peace or > >> I'll kill you"? > >> > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Signs of the Times
Its not that they are being duped. Its that people have a natural tendency to do "empire building", whether it be at work, or elsewhere and when they do that they surround themselves with like minded people, typically "yes men". That's why I would much rather see organizations or groups made up of people that don't necessarily see eye to eye, BUT they agree on the final destination Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4799 Fax (830) 864-4726 Home http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com http://www.JobsForOurFuture.com/index.php -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:34 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Signs of the Times I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are being duped. Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as treachery and deceit should also be illegal. Regards, LelandJ Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some members of the Radical >> Religious Righters were working toward a goal of establishing a new form >> of government for the "New American Century", what do you think the >> punishment should be? >> > > Hi Leland! > > I think everything they have done and are doing is legal and if so, there > should be no witch hunt to begin with, and certainly no punishment. It is > legal to attempt to change the government by peaceful means. > > >> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or >> I'll kill you"? >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American people. As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are being duped. Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as treachery and deceit should also be illegal. Regards, LelandJ Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some members of the Radical >> Religious Righters were working toward a goal of establishing a new form >> of government for the "New American Century", what do you think the >> punishment should be? >> > > Hi Leland! > > I think everything they have done and are doing is legal and if so, there > should be no witch hunt to begin with, and certainly no punishment. It is > legal to attempt to change the government by peaceful means. > > >> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or >> I'll kill you"? >> ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some members of the Radical > Religious Righters were working toward a goal of establishing a new form > of government for the "New American Century", what do you think the > punishment should be? Hi Leland! I think everything they have done and are doing is legal and if so, there should be no witch hunt to begin with, and certainly no punishment. It is legal to attempt to change the government by peaceful means. > You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or > I'll kill you"? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Apr 26, 2007, at 6:53 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > I had to do some research on this. It is against the law for > anyone to > conspire to overthrow the US government by force or violence. It was also against the law to conspire to overthrow King George III. "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
You and Arnold need to up your meds. --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had to do some research on this. It is against > the law for anyone to > conspire to overthrow the US government by force or > violence. > > Here are a few links on the matter: > > http://www.answers.com/topic/smith-act > > http://www.mscode.com/free/statutes/97/007/0071.htm > > http://www.propagandamatrix.com/260903ronpaul.html > > Well, I'm having trouble finding any cases where an > American President > ran for office under false pretext, and after > elected silently began > nipping away at the US form of government; moving > the government towards > a ruling one party state. I believe the Bush > Administration has been > working very hard behind the scene and very secretly > to essentially > overthrow our traditional Democratic/Constitutional > form of government. > This wouldn't meet the definition of "overthrow of > the government by > violence or force, but it would produce the same > result by means of > treachery and deceit. Of all the weapon in the > world, the most > dangerous weapons of all are treachery and deceit. > > If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some > members of the Radical > Religious Righters were working toward a goal of > establishing a new form > of government for the "New American Century", what > do you think the > punishment should be? > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > Hi Leland! > > You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As > in "support peace or I'll > kill you"? > > > > On 04/26/2007 Pete Theisen wrote: > > Hi Leland! > > > > You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? > As in "support peace or > > I'll > > kill you"? > > > > > ___ > Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com > Subscription Maintenance: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > Searchable Archive: > http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > This message: > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, > are the opinions of the author, and do not > constitute legal or medical advice. This statement > is added to the messages for those lawyers who are > too stupid to see the obvious. > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
I had to do some research on this. It is against the law for anyone to conspire to overthrow the US government by force or violence. Here are a few links on the matter: http://www.answers.com/topic/smith-act http://www.mscode.com/free/statutes/97/007/0071.htm http://www.propagandamatrix.com/260903ronpaul.html Well, I'm having trouble finding any cases where an American President ran for office under false pretext, and after elected silently began nipping away at the US form of government; moving the government towards a ruling one party state. I believe the Bush Administration has been working very hard behind the scene and very secretly to essentially overthrow our traditional Democratic/Constitutional form of government. This wouldn't meet the definition of "overthrow of the government by violence or force, but it would produce the same result by means of treachery and deceit. Of all the weapon in the world, the most dangerous weapons of all are treachery and deceit. If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some members of the Radical Religious Righters were working toward a goal of establishing a new form of government for the "New American Century", what do you think the punishment should be? Regards, LelandJ Hi Leland! You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or I'll kill you"? On 04/26/2007 Pete Theisen wrote: > Hi Leland! > > You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or > I'll > kill you"? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Thursday 26 April 2007 3:05 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > John Edwards thinks that Bush should fire Karl Rove, but I think Karl > Rove, and all his subversive comrades in the Bush Administration that > are trying to overthrow the US Democratic/Constitutional from of > government, should be locked up, or worse. LOL Hi Leland! You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or I'll kill you"? > > On Thursday 26 April 2007 1:00 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> The below message was in my INBOX this morning. If what is being said is > >> true, our government has become even more corrupt than I suspected. > > > > ROFL! > > > >> #- > >> > >> Dear Leland, > >> > >> There is a trail of rot making its way through our government—and it > >> leads straight to Karl Rove. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > There is a trail of rot making its way Whenever an article starts out this way, my "objectivity meter" goes into the negative, and I toss/delete the article. No matter who wrote it, or who it's about. (aren't I the self-righteous prig?) -- Vince Teachout Caracal Software www.caracal.net 518-733-9411 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
> are trying to overthrow the US Democratic/Constitutional from of > government, should be locked up, or worse. LOL Most of our politicians(both sides of the aisle) should be... -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
John Edwards thinks that Bush should fire Karl Rove, but I think Karl Rove, and all his subversive comrades in the Bush Administration that are trying to overthrow the US Democratic/Constitutional from of government, should be locked up, or worse. LOL Regards, LelandJ Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 26 April 2007 1:00 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> The below message was in my INBOX this morning. If what is being said is >> true, our government has become even more corrupt than I suspected. >> > > ROFL! > >> #- >> >> Dear Leland, >> >> There is a trail of rot making its way through our government—and it >> leads straight to Karl Rove. >> ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
On Thursday 26 April 2007 1:00 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > The below message was in my INBOX this morning. If what is being said is > true, our government has become even more corrupt than I suspected. ROFL! > > #- > > Dear Leland, > > There is a trail of rot making its way through our government—and it > leads straight to Karl Rove. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
