RE: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-28 Thread Allen
Just change the permissions for program files
Al

-Original Message-

I'm not sure I understand your point, Ken.

The rule, Don't use C:\Program Files to store your DBF's, should be
followed because if you don't your program won't work.  And that rule didn't
come from Microsoft, it came from folks like Doug Hennig figuring out how to
cope with the rule that DID come from MS, namely, We've decided to protect
you by making C:\Program Files read-only, with no advance notice.


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RE: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-28 Thread Dan Covill


 From: krdib...@stny.rr.com
 
 If I can figure out how to get around it, anybody can. Including evil-doers.
 
 That's the point I am making. Not sure I see what distinction you are raising.
 

OK, now I understand.  I wasn't sure whether you were getting around the MS 
rule or the rule for avoiding it.  g

Dan
  

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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-28 Thread Jeff Johnson

On 4/25/2014 5:35 AM, Rafael Copquin wrote:
I have a client that just got a Windows 8 box and I need to install my 
application in that new OS


1. Any recommendations on how and where to install the VFP 9 SP2 ?
2. Any caveats with running the compiled exe?
3. Any suggestions?

I know this has been discussed before, but I just need a quick summary 
of all the discussions, please.


Thanks in advance

Rafael Copquin



Ever since Vista I have installed the run times using Inno Setup and I 
put my applications in:


c:\users\public\applications\myapps

Where applications is a folder I create and myapps is the individual 
app.  I install this way on all machines now, including XP.


HTH

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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-28 Thread Rafael Copquin

Again, thank you all for your comments
Rafael Copquin

El 28/04/2014 13:19, Jeff Johnson escribió:

On 4/25/2014 5:35 AM, Rafael Copquin wrote:
I have a client that just got a Windows 8 box and I need to install 
my application in that new OS


1. Any recommendations on how and where to install the VFP 9 SP2 ?
2. Any caveats with running the compiled exe?
3. Any suggestions?

I know this has been discussed before, but I just need a quick 
summary of all the discussions, please.


Thanks in advance

Rafael Copquin



Ever since Vista I have installed the run times using Inno Setup and I 
put my applications in:


c:\users\public\applications\myapps

Where applications is a folder I create and myapps is the individual 
app.  I install this way on all machines now, including XP.


HTH




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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-27 Thread Ken Dibble



 Don't use C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) to store your
 DBFs.
 They are read-only in Vi$ta, 7  8. Try C:\ProgramData!
 --


This rule was made in 2006 and it still has to be repeated?

Ostriches Unite!


Do you always follow rules just because somebody makes them?

Independent Thinkers Unite!

:-

-- Bad Ken

(This is not just contrarianism. These rules are made allegedly to make the 
OS safer. Problem is, malware authors are very good at following any rules 
the OS manufacturer can come up with--and still hosing your computer. That 
makes such rules useless. In fact, worse than useless, since they waste 
development time for no discernible benefit.)


Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org


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RE: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-27 Thread Dan Covill
I'm not sure I understand your point, Ken.

The rule, Don't use C:\Program Files to store your DBF's, should be followed 
because if you don't your program won't work.  And that rule didn't come from 
Microsoft, it came from folks like Doug Hennig figuring out how to cope with 
the rule that DID come from MS, namely, We've decided to protect you by making 
C:\Program Files read-only, with no advance notice.

So who are you rebelling against?  

I follow that rule by passive uninvolvement, because I never did put any of my 
apps, program OR data, in C:\Program Files.  It seemed like a bad idea to me, 
and so it proved to be.  So, the original MS rule, that Program Files was God's 
chosen place for programs, I did rebel against.  Is that the one you're 
referring to?

(And you don't want C:\Program Data either, IMO.  C:\MyApplication is a lot 
safer, and is approved by Zeus, Thor, Allah, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster, 
not just God!)

Dan Covill

 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 20:50:10 -0400
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 From: krdib...@stny.rr.com
 Subject: Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8
 
 
   Don't use C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) to store your
   DBFs.
   They are read-only in Vi$ta, 7  8. Try C:\ProgramData!
   --
 
 
 Do you always follow rules just because somebody makes them?

  

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RE: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-27 Thread Ken Dibble


The rule, Don't use C:\Program Files to store your DBF's, should be 
followed because if you don't your program won't work.  And that rule 
didn't come from Microsoft, it came from folks like Doug Hennig figuring 
out how to cope with the rule that DID come from MS, namely, We've 
decided to protect you by making C:\Program Files read-only, with no 
advance notice.


Steve was obviously referencing the rule that came from MS. The fact that 
there's always a work-around for any such rule, whether discovered by Doug 
Hennig or Malwar-0 el-Haxor, is part of the point I was making. Actually, I 
figured out how to cope with the MS rule by turning off virtualization 
in the Local Policies long before Doug published his solution. (I didn't so 
much figure it out as do some research; the Policies are well-documented.)


If I can figure out how to get around it, anybody can. Including evil-doers.

That's the point I am making. Not sure I see what distinction you are raising.

Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org


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VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Rafael Copquin
I have a client that just got a Windows 8 box and I need to install my 
application in that new OS


1. Any recommendations on how and where to install the VFP 9 SP2 ?
2. Any caveats with running the compiled exe?
3. Any suggestions?

I know this has been discussed before, but I just need a quick summary 
of all the discussions, please.


Thanks in advance

Rafael Copquin





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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I copied my app over to a folder called c:\bid_auction with the run time
files and it ran fine on a new windows 8 laptop (toshiba)


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Rafael Copquin rcopq...@fibertel.com.arwrote:

 I have a client that just got a Windows 8 box and I need to install my
 application in that new OS

 1. Any recommendations on how and where to install the VFP 9 SP2 ?
 2. Any caveats with running the compiled exe?
 3. Any suggestions?

 I know this has been discussed before, but I just need a quick summary of
 all the discussions, please.

 Thanks in advance

 Rafael Copquin





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RE: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Allen
My take.
I have my main prog which uses OCX's running on 8. Better than 7 in my
opinion.
Ok, since XP, M$ has stopped the use of program files to put things in other
than the basics (not updatable stuff). Matter of opinion as to if you should
or not anyway as all they have done is move it to ProgramData. And you can
get over it by altering permissions anyway. Only problem I had is using
csMail.dll which needs a help and admin mode to register. Otherwise I have
no problems in 8. Windows 8.1 has a better start menu right click though so
upgrade to 8.1
I also program on 8.1 (and 7) and have no problems other than the usual
debug falling over.
Al

-Original Message-

I have a client that just got a Windows 8 box and I need to install my
application in that new OS

 1. Any recommendations on how and where to install the VFP 9 SP2 ?
 2. Any caveats with running the compiled exe?
 3. Any suggestions?

I know this has been discussed before, but I just need a quick summary of
all the discussions, please.



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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Koen Piller
Hi
Bernard Bout has published on Foxite a very clear do' and donot's.
Koen

Op vrijdag 25 april 2014 heeft Allen pro...@gatwicksoftware.com het
volgende geschreven:

 My take.
 I have my main prog which uses OCX's running on 8. Better than 7 in my
 opinion.
 Ok, since XP, M$ has stopped the use of program files to put things in
 other
 than the basics (not updatable stuff). Matter of opinion as to if you
 should
 or not anyway as all they have done is move it to ProgramData. And you can
 get over it by altering permissions anyway. Only problem I had is using
 csMail.dll which needs a help and admin mode to register. Otherwise I have
 no problems in 8. Windows 8.1 has a better start menu right click though so
 upgrade to 8.1
 I also program on 8.1 (and 7) and have no problems other than the usual
 debug falling over.
 Al

 -Original Message-

 I have a client that just got a Windows 8 box and I need to install my
 application in that new OS

  1. Any recommendations on how and where to install the VFP 9 SP2 ?
  2. Any caveats with running the compiled exe?
  3. Any suggestions?

 I know this has been discussed before, but I just need a quick summary of
 all the discussions, please.



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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Man-wai Chang
Don't use C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) to store your DBFs.
They are read-only in Vi$ta, 7  8. Try C:\ProgramData!

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Rafael Copquin
rcopq...@fibertel.com.ar wrote:
 1. Any recommendations on how and where to install the VFP 9 SP2 ?
 2. Any caveats with running the compiled exe?
 3. Any suggestions?

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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Man-wai Chang chan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't use C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) to store your
 DBFs.
 They are read-only in Vi$ta, 7  8. Try C:\ProgramData!
 --


This rule was made in 2006 and it still has to be repeated?

Ostriches Unite!


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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Rafael Copquin

OK, thanks to all of you for your input
Rafael

El 25/04/2014 10:45, Allen escribió:

My take.
I have my main prog which uses OCX's running on 8. Better than 7 in my
opinion.
Ok, since XP, M$ has stopped the use of program files to put things in other
than the basics (not updatable stuff). Matter of opinion as to if you should
or not anyway as all they have done is move it to ProgramData. And you can
get over it by altering permissions anyway. Only problem I had is using
csMail.dll which needs a help and admin mode to register. Otherwise I have
no problems in 8. Windows 8.1 has a better start menu right click though so
upgrade to 8.1
I also program on 8.1 (and 7) and have no problems other than the usual
debug falling over.
Al

-Original Message-

I have a client that just got a Windows 8 box and I need to install my
application in that new OS

  1. Any recommendations on how and where to install the VFP 9 SP2 ?
  2. Any caveats with running the compiled exe?
  3. Any suggestions?

I know this has been discussed before, but I just need a quick summary of
all the discussions, please.




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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Rafael Copquin
The older we get, the more prone to Alzheimer's disease we are, so it is 
good to be reminded of these things :-)

Rafael

El 25/04/2014 11:32, Stephen Russell escribió:

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Man-wai Chang chan...@gmail.com wrote:


Don't use C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) to store your
DBFs.
They are read-only in Vi$ta, 7  8. Try C:\ProgramData!
--


This rule was made in 2006 and it still has to be repeated?

Ostriches Unite!





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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread Man-wai Chang
Well, a lot of smaller customers are still on WinXP, some might still
be using VFP 6.

Just a reminder! :)

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: VFP 9 SP 2 on Windows 8

2014-04-25 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2014-04-25 10:32, Stephen Russell wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Man-wai Chang chan...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Don't use C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) to store 
your

DBFs.
They are read-only in Vi$ta, 7  8. Try C:\ProgramData!
--



This rule was made in 2006 and it still has to be repeated?

Ostriches Unite!




I simply like the c:\MyApplication approach.

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