Re: [libreoffice-projects] Feedback from a user on Facebook
Mike Saunders wrote on 02/03/2021 11:37: > Someone on Facebook wrote some really nice feedback and asked us to > share with the whole "LibreOffice team", so maybe the projects list is > the best for that :-) Here it is: Really nice feedback, explaining various of the strong points of LibreOffice. Thanks for sharing, Mike! Cor > "Could you convey my thanks to the existing LibreOffice team? I hope > they realize what a difference they make for the Open Source community. > I use Writer and Calc every single day, and Impress on occasion. These > programs are easy to use and have wonderful features. I like that the > whole suite is highly configurable to my personal needs and tastes. I'd > bet it's easy for a programmer or help writer to forget that the work > that they do makes such a difference for people. All over the world > people rely on LibreOffice to do their important work. I write documents > in three different languages, English, German, and French. In Writer I > was able to create special toolbars to make German and French characters > that aren't available on my American keyboard easily available. I've > also written extensive macros to automate much of my work. Here's a > screen shot of my customized Writer. If you could please, pass on my > thanks to the LibreOffice team for the hard work that they do and the > superb set of applications they've created." > > -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger https://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer https://www.libreoffice.org - Member Board The Document Foundation - marketing @CollaboraOffice - ceo www.nouenoff.nl - initiator www.mijncloudoffice.nl -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Oct-17
Heiko Tietze wrote on 17-10-18 20:58: > * Backspace as the primary key for removing bullet points and tab indent > (Writer) >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120399 >... >=> will make some screenshots/exmaples and description of current / > proposed behavior (Cor) done -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger https://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer https://www.libreoffice.org - Member Board The Document Foundation - http://www.nouenoff.nl / https://www.mijncloudoffice.nl -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: LibreOffice Mascot
Hi Nicolas, William, *, William Gathoye wrote on 28-05-17 13:21: > I have seen this topic a few weeks ago and kindly asked Nicolas, my > coworker, who is a graphic designer specialized in advertising content > working for Pixinko, to think to a mascot that could suit LibreOffice needs. > > He checked the whole thread to see the propositions you made. However, > he thinks birds should be avoided as most of FOSS software have such a > similar logo and important companies have mail applications whose logo > are basically representing a bird. > > So he came up with the idea of "beaver" (castor) [1]. I do like the idea and the arguments supporting it. thanks :) ! Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote on 12-12-15 19:16: > Due to some issues with the usability of the current website I decided > to work on two new add-ons for the website to solve this issues a time > ago. I worked on that add-ons a lot in my spare time and finished a > version for Plone 4.3 around the LibreOffice conference in Aarhus. This > add-on versions used five.grok. But this add-on package will not be > actively supported with the current version of Plone, Plone 5.0. Thus I > decided to review my add-ons and drop the five.grok dependency. This > made it necessary to create a lot of changes to the add-ons and nearly > start from scratch. I got a new beta-version of them out now (after some > weeks of work during my spare time). Looking at these issues, and the fact that you repeatedly emphasize that you do the work in your free time, I would suggest you to ask the board to support the work, so that the most can be done in a project by someone having normal time to do it. And that your, of course fully understandable limited availability, is no longer a bottle neck. The site is important enough for such a move, IMO. > I created a new test website, that runs on a new shiny Plone 5.0: > http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9103/loexttem5/en/extensions Thanks for that, of course :) Few remarks: 1) I was thinking about advantage when the split Home | Extensions | Templates is removed. Extensions are the landing page, for what the very vast majority comes to the site. A clear Instructions somewhere will be OK for people. 2) The search top-right is fine, but it is not clear that that is the way to search for an extension.. 3) Nearly two years ago we made a functional design for some pages. Can you give an update (wiki?) on the status of the current work in relation to that design? Thanks a lot, Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 5.1.0 RC1 available
Christian Lohmaier wrote on 18-12-15 01:20: > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ Hurray :) Now we need a qtz "langpack", reveling the String ID's to check (recent) translations. However - apologies - I lost track on where I can find the most recent. Anyone? Ciao, Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of the new Extensions and Templates Site
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote on 18-10-15 11:52: > You did the random navigating on the theming site or exttemptest-site or > the theming one? The theming one. The exttemptest-site has the disadvantage that it still shows the odd home page, where there is no extension ;) On the new theming one "Browse Extension by Category" is better visible and nice to use. But "Most recent Extension" and other stuff may use so much vertical space, that "Browse" is out of site. > I hope only on the theming-site because you didn't have an account there > before. Yes, I could not loggin on the theming site. Works now, after I recieved the request. thanks. Cheers, Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of the new Extensions and Templates Site
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote on 03-10-15 09:14: > Am 02.10.2015 um 21:09 schrieb Cor Nouws: >> I'll do so when I've looked at the site in the next days. > > thanks for your offer. > > I finally sorted out all issues with the overlap of user accounts and > mailaddresses from both current sites and added more than nine hundred > accounts to the new test website. > > The test site is here: > http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/exttemptest/en > > To activate (reset password) it's necessary to use the form at: > http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/exttemptest/mail_password_form?userid= > and put in the user name and wait for the email with the reset password link Sorry, I'm late. I've reset my password for http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/exttemptest/en but that does not allow me to logg in here: ? http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/LibOExt-Theming/en > I'll work on the content data of the current websites and clean up the > content the next days. I did some random navigating on the theming/en site and it feels nice. But I've only seen limited functionallity - can't login and only few extensions there. But ;) Paasword reset seems not to work? Being able to login there would be nice .. Thanks, Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of the new Extensions and Templates Site
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote on 01-10-15 22:29: > It be great if someone volunteers and create a message that could be > send to the user (contributers) to motivate them to try the new > environment and give feedback. Good idea. Count me in for that please. I'll do so when I've looked at the site in the next days. Ciao, Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Splash, startcenter & About dialog updates for 5.0
Jan Holesovsky wrote on 26-06-15 15:18: > It was brought to my attention that some people did not notice in the > ESC and Design meeting minutes that the graphics for the splash, > startcenter, and the about dialog will update for 5.0, so let me write > some details. > ... Each time 5.0.0 RC4 starts it's with joy that I look at the splash screen. Thanks to all making this happen :) Cor -- Cor Nouws, Chairman Membership Committee The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 mobile : +31 (0)6 25 20 7001 skype : cornouws blog: cor4office-nl.blogspot.com twitter : cor4office jabber : cor4off...@jabber.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Reporting to Native Lang Projects lists
Florian Effenberger wrote on 08-07-15 10:15: > maybe we can have a mixture - TDF staff speaks several languages, so > think we can at least cover the French, Italian, German and maybe > Brazilian and Portuguese communities (Italo IMHO speaks Portuguese), > which would be a good start. For the other communities, at least > forwarding the message in English can be done as well by TDF staff - if > we want to have it localized (which would help greatly, for sure!) and a > point of contact it the native language, we need volunteers capable of > the specific language. What is your proposal exactly, Florian :) ? Have a translation done by TDF for several languages and send it to .. ? And send the English version to .. ? Ciao, Cor -- Cor Nouws, Chairman Membership Committee The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 mobile : +31 (0)6 25 20 7001 skype : cornouws blog: cor4office-nl.blogspot.com twitter : cor4office jabber : cor4off...@jabber.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Reporting to Native Lang Projects lists
Jochen Schiffers wrote on 07-07-15 15:07:
> Am 07.07.2015 um 14:47 schrieb Sophie:
>> Le 07/07/2015 14:39, Jochen Schiffers a écrit :
>>> perhaps it might be useful, to send automatically things like BH
>>> sessions to the national discuss-ML also - of course this in english
>>> ("nobody" has time to translate such a mail).
>>
>> I would prefer that each NL project feels entitled to forward the mail
>> than one sending the mail to each NL list. It's already sent to lists,
>> blogs, social medias. For me the workflow should be:
>> we send to projects@list then fwd to the NL list done by one of its
>> member.
>>
> in fact it is difficult to find someone who do this all the time (over
> the years).
> Therefore my proposal.
On the other hand it's good to have the initiative with the people
themselves. Little tasks do help people becoming involved.
But two ideas:
a. it could be an option that, upon request, those mails are
automatically sent to some NL lists. To be decided by the NL group.
b. a short summary on top/ bottom of announcements and such, may help to
translate just that and send it (with the full English text) to the NL
list(s).
Cheers,
Cor
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Reporting to Native Lang Projects lists
Florian Effenberger wrote on 08-07-15 10:15: > maybe we can have a mixture - TDF staff speaks several languages, so > think we can at least cover the French, Italian, German and maybe > Brazilian and Portuguese communities (Italo IMHO speaks Portuguese), > which would be a good start. For the other communities, at least > forwarding the message in English can be done as well by TDF staff - if > we want to have it localized (which would help greatly, for sure!) and a > point of contact it the native language, we need volunteers capable of > the specific language. What is your proposal exactly, Florian :) ? Have a translation done by TDF for several languages and send it to .. ? And send the English version to .. ? Ciao, Cor -- Cor Nouws, Chairman Membership Committee The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 mobile : +31 (0)6 25 20 7001 skype : cornouws blog: cor4office-nl.blogspot.com twitter : cor4office jabber : cor4off...@jabber.org -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] infra issues continue
Florian Effenberger wrote on 18-02-15 20:43: > [...] Kudos to the infra staff for an enormously long > working day and their amazing efforts! Indeed. Brave and patient work.. and prolly stressful too. Million thanks lot to all! Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] 2013 annual report follow up
Hi Sophie, Thanks all! Sophie wrote on 07-10-14 14:26: > It would be great now, that: > - a native English speaker check the English version for grammar and typos, It's good that the document is not "all native". Nothing wrong of course with decent use of English, as long as it doesn't become too complicated. > - NLPs translate it in their language as a resource for their project on > the foundation work and structure explanation, We'll see who can pick that up for Dutch.. > - the marketing project made a nice brochure out of it that could be > used as an introduction to the Foundation. Useful to have. Not many people will read in all detail, but the overview and availability of all info is great. > The document can be found here: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:AnnualReportEN.pdf Idea for naming: "TDF_2013_AnnualReportEN.pdf" Ciao, -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Multilingual planet - which way to go?
Hi Christian, Christian Lohmaier wrote (15-05-14 15:28) > But before spending time on setting it up that way: is this what what > NL-Projects want/expect? Please state your opinion :-) I see/expect verry little content that could make it worth to have one specifically for Dutch. > Would one for English, one for "all others" also be an option, or is > this a fundamentally bad idea? The latter, IMHO ;) Cheers, Cor -- -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds
Florian Effenberger wrote (07-01-14 00:36) > I personally feel strongly _against_ such a solution, as having a > zillion of languages mixed in the current planet setup will cause > nothing but confusion. However, this is just my personal take on that, > so - if there are no objections from the community, I won't vetoe. OTOH, it might also be an advantage when people see the international nature of our community. Of course (I may have missed details) short snippets to show more and the tags to pick out the LibreOffice related ones are useful. And when after some time we learn that it doesn't work like this... changing is not a big deal, I guess? Cheers, -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olivier Hallot wrote (07-01-14 01:59) > Our Manifesto: We reject > > (...) the creeping domination of computer desktops by a single > language forcing people to learn a foreign language before they can > express themselves electronically (...) > > Enough said, I guess. So wouldn't that be supportive for the idea to try a mixed planet ? Well, if it is not published at all on the Brazilian site, that would not change anything of course. - -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSy8L9AAoJEOSdc2WxNICmAMMIALabxMe5/9VB2rtHrYOofPUV dS5xUeKo0Qo1DNo4YLCqzg7xy6JJgu2eTIjK1nVKhxWBwsvCeU19LYRMDsgmQGc3 TKbCpVOFWXfy2oco1iMStouMw/Z5rS2OMTz/Ql3AtXWM7CHf8bqyjvDBxN0stENZ A7iYtECczXZPrDkET3WvkKM1wGgrLJl1DUoErNwkhMS0p0Zort2cOc7O1PCsDlYT E48fTHSQ8d9xYMQaUcT1q4bmnuUfnpcxkN7Q80SvfJNsbX7mS9prL6Z0N7K7/ki7 cyDrZ+y4/IGlsowOZTYPbhvOqoD7xyMiRsAbwozaRPEFw0DLzXT+E/R8UxpMIFs= =u0hK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Engaging Users Survey: Enroll today and publish it in your language!
Hi Charles, Charles-H. Schulz wrote (07-11-13 20:26) I would actually not add or witjdraw any question at this stage. It would not be on par with all the respondents who already completed the survey. Besides we are shutting down the survey this Sunday. I've seen some remarks (in a glance) from people on the Dutch list, that give the impression that those would be able to give clear examples for improvements for possible future online surveys. Apparently people with considerable experience in this field. Would it be helpful to ask them specific examples with our survey, so that we can keep that for the future? Cheers, -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Engaging Users?
Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote (01-11-13 13:58) The survey has just been activated. Please let me know if you'd like to access the admin panel in order to translate it in your language. The survey can be reached at this URL: https://survey.documentfoundation.org/index.php/574531/lang-en I'd like to translate into spanish Me in Dutch! -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...
Hi Bjoern, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote (24-07-13 12:07) The proposal was to build straightforward tarballs instead of something faking to be a debian package. I should look up what a 'faked debian package' is :) That would still allow all of the above. Using Alien I guess? Note that in our very early days (hmm, you were not here at that time ;) ) people were looking for 'debs' to download. But if a workflow with alien is available by default, reasonable fast and good to explain... ok. Note though that at least for Ubuntu the PPAs are really quick and allow you to keep control of your deployment plan for major releases (e.g. the libreoffice-4-0 ppa will not update you to LibreOffice 4.1). Great of course, but that will only cover part of the needs & wishes I guess. Cheers, Cor -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks wrote (18-07-13 17:35) * Should we kill TDF .deb builds ? (Bjoern) For my understanding, that means that people that for reasons prefer to install without system integration and do testing and or work with their own deployment plan, ... would not be able to download the versionXYZ_x86_deb.tag.gz any more from libreoffice.org/download ? Handy alternatives ? Thanks, -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] EN "4.0 New Features and Fixes" webpage
Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote (01-02-13 07:53) The EN "4.0 New Features and Fixes" webpage is now complete and ready for publishing on the v.4.0 unveiling day next week. I have sent a note [...] Thanks a lot for this! Really cool and useful! When I/we, over the next week, come to translating this for Dutch, we may have some additional suggestions for the content. Anyway, that is how it worked last times: late ;-) If so, we'll inform you/others by the mail list, so that anyone who so wishes, can pick up the changes. Regards, Cor -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] LibreOffice 4.0 Test Marathon
Hi all, For those interested in helping a bit out with the 4.0: we have a LibreOffice 4.0 Test Marathon from December 14 - 19: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Test_Marathon_LibreOffice_4.0 I hope to see many of you there :-) Kind regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Translation of default response to user-question on wrong channel
Cor Nouws wrote (18-11-12 12:44) I'll make sure you'll get on in Dutch. So here it is: = = = = Dutch = = Dank je vriendelijk voor je e-mail en je belangstelling voor LibreOffice. Door de toenemende belangstelling voor het vrije office-pakket krijgen we elke dag veel verzoeken voor ondersteuning. Helaas kunnen we niet op ieder bericht persoonlijk reageren - onze betrokkenheid in het project is vrijwillig en gebeurt in eigen tijd. Gelukkig zijn er in de gemeenschap een aantal mailing-lijsten om gebruikers te ondersteunen. Een overzicht daarvan vind je op http://nl.libreoffice.org/ondersteuning/mailinglijsten/ We verzoeken je vriendelijk om daar te kijken en je vraag naar de passende mailing-lijst te zenden. Via de mailing-lijst zullen er vrijwel zeker mensen reageren en proberen je te helpen met details van je vraag. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Translation of default response to user-question on wrong channel
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote (17-11-12 22:28) I don't know which way is the easiest for the translation process (mailinglist or Pootle or ). I thus need a volunteer who coordinate the translation process and send a copy of the translation to me. I'll put them into our ticket-system. Good idea to have the text translated to other languages! Since this is (mostly) a one time action, it's by far easiest that all that appreciate to have a version in their language, simply send that to you in response to this thread. I'll make sure you'll get on in Dutch. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] What's in a name? former Native-Language projects and structure
Charles-H. Schulz wrote (07-11-12 11:47) Finally someone who understands :-) ;-) thanks to your endurance in explaining Indeed. One nuance though is that it would not be about keeping native-language projects as a denomination but rather reintroducing the term (officially , there are only "communities" and no native-language project here). Then I would say "LibreOffice native-language communities" / "NLC" I think the same but it seems not everyone does, and people expect structure... What is expected that a structure would deliver? Money from TDF for activities? Acknowledgement that helps the NLC with it's work (being locally accepted)? Invitations for events? ...? Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] What's in a name? former Native-Language projects and structure
Hi Charles, Charles-H. Schulz wrote (05-11-12 21:11) Quick note. It's not about each project's name but how do we call the Libreoffice's native-language projects in general. Ah, so not how each native-language project should call itself :-) If people that contacted you/board on the issue did not deliver a ready-to-use-for-us solution, I would keep it at "LibreOffice native-language project". Simply because I have no better idea. Sorry., I mean: how else make something comprehensive, compact and nice sounding from "support, marketing, testing and localization"? And the structure...? Isn't it enough if we try to listen, cooperate and support each other? For me that is more important then if group X from language/region Y is a foundation, society, informal team, two people, er even a sub-entity of TDF. And as for the names they use, see below. Cheers, Cor Le 5 nov. 2012 20:23, "Cor Nouws" a écrit : Would it be an idea to give the various groups the choice from 3, maybe 4 alternatives, which fits them best? e.g LibreOffice x / LibreOffice Project x / LibO x ? I think we won't have difficulty, as Sophie states, to recognise our own groups/people. And the communication purpose of the name is mostly local/regional. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+help@global.**libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/<http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/**projects/<http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] What's in a name? former Native-Language projects and structure
Sophie Gautier wrote (05-11-12 19:37) Libre is very difficult to pronounce for lot of us, so let stick with something that is easier for our language communities to feel united. Would it be an idea to give the various groups the choice from 3, maybe 4 alternatives, which fits them best? e.g LibreOffice x / LibreOffice Project x / LibO x ? I think we won't have difficulty, as Sophie states, to recognise our own groups/people. And the communication purpose of the name is mostly local/regional. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] What's in a name? former Native-Language projects and structure
Italo Vignoli wrote (05-11-12 14:45) Simply LibreProjects, we must grow our brand awareness, [...] I like the word, but the current users of LibreProjects might like to be involved in discussing or see that there is some reasonable distinction that makes clear that we talk about LibreOffice related projects. Another idea: LibreOffice NLP Dutch, LibreOffice NLP Italy/Italian (just what people would think fits best for their situation), ... -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Community-Meetings at the LibreOffice Conference (Tuesday 16. Oct. 2012)
Andreas Mantke wrote (21-09-12 18:18) Therefor I ask you to reply to this thread and notify us which group want to meet to which subject(s) on Tuesday. We will create a schedule from your recommendations. I arrive in Berlin a bit after 13:00. So am available from say 14:00. Looking forward, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Community-Meetings at the LibreOffice Conference (Tuesday 16. Oct. 2012)
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote (21-09-12 18:18) Therefor I ask you to reply to this thread and notify us which group want to meet to which subject(s) on Tuesday. We will create a schedule from your recommendations. Thanks for your attention for this. Experience shows that meetings do take place, but often are planned quite late ;-) Most important is that there are about four, five rooms available nearby, so that each has a place and that people do not stand in each others way. Kind regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BugHunt Session ...Re: Re: minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote (29-06-12 16:12) Just as a suggestion for future bug hunting and other events. Could you please check the calendar of events before planning any events? This will help avoid any conflicts with any other events that show on the calendar. You're right, thanks for noticing and reminding me! (Hope I won't forget :-\ / ;-) ) [...] I have added the BugHunt date on the events calendar. [...] http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/libreoffice-international-events-calendar/ [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EventsCalendar Regards, Cor -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] LibreOffice 3.6 Bug Hunting Party - July 6 & 7
Hi all, This is a first mail to inform you that we will have a LibreOffice 3.6 Bug Hunting Party, next week: July 6 & More info here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Party_3.6.0 (subject to slight changes of course) Official announcement will be out tomorrow, but pls feel free to spread the news to wherever you think it's useful :-) Thanks & cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BugHunt Session ...Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
Hi all, Rainer Bielefeld wrote (26-06-12 20:13) Michael Meeks schrieb: If it gets us more testing of 3.6 - it sounds like an excellent idea to I also believe it would be great do do some final spurt for 3.6. [..] But may be I will join for a short visit. So here we go: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.6.0 We'll have to make sure that preparations are in place, just for in case that non of us is able to join :-) Italo, could you draft a simple PR, or can you give me permission to recycle some of your previous work ;-) Cheers -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
BugHunt Session ...Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] Re: minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
What do others think? Cor Nouws wrote (24-06-12 14:46) Bjoern Michaelsen wrote (15-06-12 17:50) AI:- Are there any Bug Hunting Sessions in the pipe? (Cor) Good question. I'm much later obviously then with the previous sessions. Would it be OK to do it Friday 6, Saturday 7 July? Objective: testing on the Beta 3, and triaging of bugs. I've not so much time to spend, but think I can do at least the organising part and will try to participate for some hours too. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
Hi Bjoern, all, Sorry, some unread mail in some folders ;-) Bjoern Michaelsen wrote (15-06-12 17:50) here are the minutes of todays QA call. [...] community building/communication (Cor?): Currently it's better (wrt false expectations) to have my name not there. AI:- Are there any Bug Hunting Sessions in the pipe? (Cor) Good question. I'm much later obviously then with the previous sessions. Would it be OK to do it Friday 6, Saturday 7 July? Objective: testing on the Beta 3, and triaging of bugs. I've not so much time to spend, but think I can do at least the organising part and will try to participate for some hours too. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice developer digest
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (11-05-12 14:39) Cor Nouws píše v Čt 10. 05. 2012 v 17:32 +0200: Attached an ods with the rough data I have now. The list of selected changes look reasonable to me. I just suggest two things: + add name of the author + slightly reword each commit summary to get a consistent look and feel The second I did a bit. The first might be an idea for the next time: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/05/11/new-and-changed-functions-you-can-experience-and-test-them-now/ [...] If you want to add links to bugzilla, I could create a simple script for you. It will replace fdo#x with the needed tags for WordPress. I guess that it uses html tags. Does it? Thanks for the offer. When looking at the WordPress thing yesterday I did not find a HTML switch, but it was there today. And that makes it easy enough for me to handle. But if I think I need smarter tools, I'll call you :-) Cool. Thanks a lot for working on it. First time is bit more time-consuming. Now the routing is clear, I hope I can do it fast and regularly. Looking in the git-commits is something I do anyway. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice developer digest
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (10-05-12 17:11) Wonderful. Could you please cut&paste them? I wonder how they look like. thanks for your interest! Attached an ods with the rough data I have now. Thinking about a strategy to get that in WordPress quickly (without difficult mouse editing of links... Someone a hint?) :-\ (will post part of it, will keep part for next blog) BTW: How did you collect them? The following ways come to my mind: + git changelog: Yup, just this. I see it once or sometimes more each day. And picking out interesting stuff goes fast after some practising ;-) Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice developer digest
Thorsten Behrens wrote (08-05-12 12:42) yeah, $subject is not new, but I thought I would run this idea past you folks here again. ;) It would be just wonderful, if we could have a weekly digest on the TDF blog highlighting what has happened in developer land, in layman's terms. Examples of what I have in mind: I have some 10-15 items collected already. Waiting for next step in handling... -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] minutes for the LibreOffice QA call 2012-04-06 1400UTC
Hi Sophie, Sophie Gautier wrote (10-04-12 23:05) If it's easy, it will attract people too. QA is frightening for a lot of users because it looks like technical when it's not. Ah well, of course it is technical compared to what many people are used to, but I agree with you that easier tools lower the barrier and thus help :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] minutes for the LibreOffice QA call 2012-04-06 1400UTC
Hi, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote (06-04-12 19:55) - CaseConductor evaluation [...] - Rainer: we need better documentation on the "why" of Litmus/MozTrap [...] - Kendy: Need for regular manual testing for update scenarios [...] - given the limited current reach of Litmus, we might propagate in blogs too - we really need to make structured manual a lot more visible for 3.6 I look forward to the outcome of the Litmus/MozTrap evaluation and improvements in this area. It will help people run the tests more easily. However, we must not forget that it's just that and not more. Evaluation of the current situation showed some lack of available time with people considered to work with it (and other QA topics). Thus if we forget that, and only do improve the tooling... it might turn out to be fooling our selves. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the LibreOffice QA call 2012-03-23 15:00UTC
Hi Bjoern, all, Thanks for taking minutes Bjoern :-) Additions from me on few points. Bjoern Michaelsen wrote (25-03-12 00:34) * pending action items [...] - collect further ideas for spending a dedicated resource (Cor/Rainer) Cor & Rainer propose to look at extending possibilities for querying commenters in bugZilla. - automated test docs: really straightforward for Calc, just needs more CSV test documents (all) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47667 I thought that related to this we talked about contacting experts in the community in e.g. the area of charts. * structured manual testing: (Yifan, Rimas, Bjoern) [...] - Litmus proposal at: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Litmus-a-proposal-td3845560.html My take on this: - Oour QA people already are very active plus having enough area's in mind, that they would love to spend extra time on. So posting extra lists of interesting areas to the QA team or asking their attention in other way's, will not help that much for now. - Apart from that, there is the risk of pseudo certainty when extra attention is given to clear work-areas/features mentioned by devs/read from the commit logs. Since work is ongoing in so many areas, that possibly have influence all over the product. - What does make sense, is having indeed a list of areas that can be clearly pointed at, and to mention them in a sort of standard post on our official TDF blog. E.g. every two weeks 4 to 8 items and guiding users interested to test in these area's to the daily builds. Thus we make use of the idea and information, and help growing the QA team, which IMNSHO is the most important issue now. This is in the minutes: (If we greenlight that, it spawns a lot of action items ;) ) - essentially means devs drop oneliners with affected area for commits along with review requests to the list (Bjoern) - Devs are already overcommited with their current tasks (Petr) - QA even more so given their current resources (Cor) - whatever form of communication/workflow we set up, we should trying it on the release branch first, becaus of commit volume (Bjoern) - this info really should be in the commit messages (Petr/Kendy?) - otherwise we should make it a custom for devs to CC the QA-list as we do with ux-advise, which works reasonably well (Petr) AA - propose proactive QA-list CCing on ESC (Bjoern) - as long as Litmus is not easily accessable this is pretty much in vain - alternative: Wiki or Blog instead of Litmus? - Blog, not Wiki (broader audiences) (Kendy?) AA - Blog regularly about affected areas with call for testing (Cor/Bjoern?) So I would suggest the action items: AA - propagate clear commit messages to recognise features/ functional area's (Petr) (I suggested t AA - Blog regularly about these areas with call for testing (Cor/Bjoern?) (Of course this only is going to work when there are clear items to mention) The also mentioned action items for CC-ing QA list by devs is important too, IMO, but will have effect more in the bit distant future. * community building/communication (Cor) [...] I outlined my ideas on this before. See the last part of this mail: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2012-March/001345.html In that area, the next AA is related: AA - kindly ask them to introduce themselves on the QA-list or even blog about (both developer interview style) (Cor/Bjoern) Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of LibreOffice QA call 2012-03-09 15:00 UTC
Hi Bjoern, all, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote (09-03-12 18:42) here are the minutes of the QA call 2012-03-09 15:00 UTC Thanks for organising & the minutes. attendants: Cor, Ivan, Rainer, Markus, Michael, Korrawit, Petr, Kendy, Bjoern - bugwrangling - still too much old regressions (Rainer) - 60 (11 most annoying) from earlier releases I see there has been good discussion on this on the dev list, with all people understanding both the importance of this topic and working on improvement as far as reasonable. - proposed mitgation: more viciously and realistically downgrade priority, we need to support Rainers decisions there Indeed. I've never seen a wrong decision from Rainer there. If there is any discussion/doubt in a certain case, discussing it here or on irc is always OK. (However, in case of discussion it's obviously best to let the devs take the final decision.) - community building/communication: AA - Find and empower new active QA contributors (Cor) Ah well, I will do my part of that, but it's not SMART to put just me for that AA: that will not lead to a _R_eliable solution in a reasonable _T_ime-frame. Having that said: I mentioned the idea that it might be possible to get names from bugzilla, from people that are more active in triage, and that we can encourage to 'team up' with us. Talking about that, we had the idea to look at the queries that are already available and may be useful for others to. AA - Provide Cor with suitable queries (Rainer) Rainer did send it already. Will have a look at that. - Note: We can currently only query for Reporters not commenters (Rainer) For the rest the minutes mention the good ideas we have for promoting etc. I see my name with some AA's I'll try to do some in the second half of this week. Next call will be in two weeks on: Friday, 2012-03-23 15:00 UTC I'll try to join. Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 RC1 pre-available
Luc Castermans wrote (19-01-12 17:45) Just yesterday installed beta3, today rc1. Busy times ;-) Where/how can I find out the differences ? this link was in the words copied from Thorsten http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-5-release-3.5.0.1.log groeten, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 RC1 pre-available
Hi Fridrich *, Fridrich Strba wrote (19-01-12 11:22) If you've a bit of time, please give them a try & report *critical* bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate them into the release notes. So far no critical notes to add - all installs fine and did some work. Will do more work & testing tomorrow. Fridrich (copying Thorsten's words) :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Bug-hunting session December 28 and 29
Italo Vignoli wrote (21-12-11 10:04) On 12/21/11 9:12 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: What do people think from 28-12 9:00 UTC until 29-12 22:00 UTC ? I would just say that mentors are available from 08:00 UTC to 22:00 UTC on both dates. OK, added smthng like that to the wiki! -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Bug-hunting session December 28 and 29
klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (21-12-11 08:44) I don't know. If we really start at this moment two things can happen: 1. Many people are bugfixing at a long time from the beginning to the end (would be good) 2. The people look at irc and nothing will happen at the start. They switch off. (would be bad) Someone have to start the bughunting session official. Who is it on 28-12 00:00 UTC -12? At the start (first two/three hours) there should be a critical mass of competent people (IMHO 5-10). Will we have this on 28-12 00:00 UTC -12? And of course there should be always traffic. And we should have a little official close on 29-12 24:00 +12. I.e. someone will close the bug hunting session official and says thanks to all volunteers and will call out a toast for the big bug hunting. Should be organized. Agree. What do people think from 28-12 9:00 UTC until 29-12 22:00 UTC ? -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Bug-hunting session December 28 and 29
Cor Nouws wrote (20-12-11 23:19) Hi Klaus-Jürgen, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (20-12-11 21:50) When will it start on December 28th? And when will it end on December 29th? Good question :-) The widest time frame is 28-12 00:00 UTC -12 until 29-12 24:00 +12 - then all people will have their own 28 & 29 December available :-) Should be necessary probably that most QA volunteers that do more to indicate testing and are present to help, live in and around UTC ? Sounds good? -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Bug-hunting session December 28 and 29
Hi Klaus-Jürgen, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (20-12-11 21:50) When will it start on December 28th? And when will it end on December 29th? Good question :-) The widest time frame is 28-12 00:00 UTC -12 until 29-12 24:00 +12 - then all people will have their own 28 & 29 December available :-) Should be necessary probably that most QA volunteers that do more testing and are present to help, live in and around UTC ? Sounds good? -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Bug-hunting session December 28 and 29
Hi all, On December 28 and 29 an international bug-hunting session for LibreOffice 3.5.0 will be held. We want to make LibreOffice 3.5 the best free office suite ever. All information you need is here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.5.0.-1 A nice banner to use on home pages etc etc, can be found here http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Improving_QA-Release-3.5#Bug-hunting_session (or use assets/Bughuntbanner.png in Silverstripe CMS) A press release about the bug hunting session will be send out soon. Please inform the people in your team and network, so that they won't miss this event! Thanks a lot :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] expected soon: bug-hunting session " Make version 3.5.0 a great one! "
Hi all, This is to inform you that soon a bug-hunting session may be expected. Theme: " Make version 3.5.0 a great one! " The goal is obviously that we want to find bugs in the LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta soon, so that they can be fixed soon too :-) When: depending on the coming beta1 release, the two day's session will be December 16 and 17 or maybe December 28 and 29. Technical details and support are discussed at the qa list. Publicity will be discussed at the marketing list. All kind of info is here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Improving_QA-Release-3.5 But of course *most important of all* inform the people in your team and network, so that they won't miss this event! Thanks a lot :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (02-12-11 16:30) I would decide about the bug-hunting party when we have, the feature complete, beta1 in hands and see how it looks like. Indeed, after the discussion today it's obvious that we must wait until we know that the beta1 is OK for such a larger test. You could organize it for the weekend Dec 17-18. Yes, in that case, it is a good choice. Preparations can be done soon, even some pre-announcements in smaller public, so that all is ready when we decide to start it. I think that Dec 23 is not a good choice because it is just one day before Christmas :-) :-) 23 is the date that the beta2 is about to be released. Therefore I mentioned it. When we choose that it is better to go with beta2 for testing in the larger group, we have to choose some dates between Christmas and December 30. But that's something for later, maybe. Anyway, thanks a lot for working on it. You're welcome. All pleasure is on my side ;-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available
Michael Meeks wrote (02-12-11 11:35) It is in a bit of a state it seems :-) anyhow - lots of bugs in our release process found/fixed before B1 which is good. I wonder how widely we should be announcing B0 - in the state that is in though. I agree with that. It's great to have the possibility to do some rough tests right now, so that we can be sure that, when the wide public wants to start testing, they actually are able to start :-) But since we are still not at feature-freeze, and there are chunks of things that need to go in yet that may de-stabilise, I start becoming a bit reluctant in already announcing a big bug-hunting party for the beta1 and thinking about beta2, due December 23 .. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.5#3.5.0_release -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available
Thorsten Behrens wrote (02-12-11 10:25) Builds are now being uploaded to a public (but non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as they're available. Grab them here: So it's probably better not to twitter right now :-) I plan some info today about the testing of the beta1. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] russion language people required for mailing lists moderation
Hi Friedrich, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote (08-11-11 23:48) we from admin team are lost while moderating russian messages sent to mailinglists by posters not subscribed to that lists. The Dutch lists get mails from Russia every day ;-) I do not spend any time in trying to understand, obviously. Would it help to have a default message in Russian, that you can send directly to the sender? I know some people that could help with that. Kind regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice] [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.2 RC1 available
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (19-07-11 17:22) Cor Nouws píše v Út 19. 07. 2011 v 09:12 +0200: Thanks for the lists, I see that bug #37488 is not listed, though it is fixed. The list of changes is generated from the git commit logs. The bug #37488 started to work accidentally. There was no commit associated with it. OK, sorry for my wrong assumption - even more since I should have known better if I thought about the current ;-) process. I am afraid that the list newer will be 100% because people sometimes forget to mention bug numbers in commit messages. I guess that we do not want to force bug number in every trivial commit. If it is not mentioned, it is rather a detective work to find it ;-) That's true. In any case I will keep it in mind so that I can add a bug number if I come across such a situation. Kind regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.2 RC1 available
Hi all, Nino Novak wrote (14-07-11 22:48) Am Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2011, um 14:29:53 schrieb Florian Effenberger: The list of fixed bugs in this release is here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-4-release-3.4.2.1.log for a clickable version, look at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Nnino/Drafts/bugfixes3.4.2 Thanks for the lists, I see that bug #37488 is not listed, though it is fixed. This not being listed is caused by the fact that it is (IMO unfortunately) marked as WORKSFORME. See my latest comment in the issue: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37488#c67 Cheers -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.1 RC3 available
Hi Thorsten, all, Thorsten Behrens wrote (28-06-11 20:48) The Document Foundation is happy to announce the third release candidate of LibreOffice 3.4.1. The upcoming 3.4.1 will be the first in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our 3.4 code line. Thanks - great news and look forward to the 4.3.1 release. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.4.1 RC3 is not yet ready for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.3.3 or 3.4.0 for that. You probably want to say that people should continue to use LibreOffice 3.3.3 for production use, or, in the case where they use 3.4.0, continue with that till 3.4.1 is released ;-) Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have been possible without your help. + 1 -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] QA manual test Litmus session on 3.3.3Rc
Hi Sophie, *, Sophie Gautier wrote (05-06-11 22:36) I would like to try to organize a first session of manual tests - release scenarios - on Litmus [1]. Mostly to see how it goes and fine tune what needs to be done to go further. We need to push our QA process further and log what is done in the language community. [...] Thanks a lot for this :-) Just created an account and is gives me this welcome " Thank you for your contribution to Mozilla QA. " ;-) I'll translate the wiki-info and poke some people on the Dutch language lists to take a look too. If we have any questions, we know where to find you :-) Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] [Idea] MailMerge 2.0
Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote (12-04-11 11:32) Mail Merge becomes a necessary tool in many cases and not always is used to create a letter or email as the wizard says. I think achieving the mentioned task using LibreOffice needs to be a easier. That's why I'd like to propose: * Rename: As the name seems to condition the application functionality, DataMerge or InfoMerge would be more appropriate and provides the idea of greater functionality. No opinion yet, sorry. * Advanced Editing: If I'm not writing a letter, why should I assign fields? an option to skip the wizard and include fields manually would be welcome. Already is there: drag the header of a column from a table in the datasource window (F4) or use Insert>Fields>More ... tab Database. Yes, but I need to get to step 6 to do so. An option to avoid the wizard in step 3 could prevent this. No, both possibilities work without the wizard. Furthermore, the last step of the wizard saves the merged document. What happens if I need to edit base document for any omission? Or change the location of the fields? Most easy for me always is: - create document/template - add fields (see my tips above) - start the wizard and step to 8 immediately. Have document and/or data changed? Just the Wizard and step 8 do the job. All this I have raised are issues that arise in the school where I work, where teachers are comfortable using MSOffice. Ah, great task for you to make them learn the advantages of the LibreOffice way ;-) : No need to link documents to sources. Just drag the fields from the datasource in. Of have a textblock (autotext) with fields .. Best, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] [Idea] MailMerge 2.0
Hi Daniel, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote (12-04-11 03:57) Mail Merge becomes a necessary tool in many cases and not always is used to create a letter or email as the wizard says. I think achieving the mentioned task using LibreOffice needs to be a easier. That's why I'd like to propose: * Rename: As the name seems to condition the application functionality, DataMerge or InfoMerge would be more appropriate and provides the idea of greater functionality. No opinion yet, sorry. * Advanced Editing: If I'm not writing a letter, why should I assign fields? an option to skip the wizard and include fields manually would be welcome. Already is there: drag the header of a column from a table in the datasource window (F4) or use Insert>Fields>More ... tab Database. Kind regards, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
