[proletar] Re: Wilders Kembali Menyerang Muhammad http://buktidansaksi.com/blogs

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
"... ketika ia menyebut bahwa Al Quran itu mirip dengan buku Mein
Kampf-nya Hitler; dan menyebut kitab suci umat Muslim itu sebagai sebuah
buku fasis.

Kamu sih asal kopas, mestinya yg disampaikan si Wilders itu yg punya
kalimat spt dibawah:

Beginilah firman TUHAN semesta alam: Aku akan membalas apa yang
dilakukan orang Amalek kepada orang Israel, karena orang Amalek
menghalang-halangi mereka, ketika orang Israel pergi dari Mesir.
Jadi pergilah sekarang, kalahkanlah orang Amalek, tumpaslah segala yang
ada padanya, dan janganlah ada belas kasihan kepadanya. Bunuhlah
semuanya, laki-laki maupun perempuan, kanak-kanak maupun anak-anak yang
menyusu, lembu maupun domba, unta maupun keledai."
Bagus ya kalau belangnya diperlihatkan?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, siap murtad 
wrote:
>
> Meskipun Persidangannya Masih Belum Selesai - Wilders Kembali
Menyerang Muhammad
>
> http://buktidansaksi.com/blogs
>
>
> 5 comments
>1Share
>
> Pengadilan Belanda hari Rabu lalu memutuskan untuk meneruskan
pemeriksaan terhadap pemimpin Partai Kebebasan Belanda, Geert Wilders,
atas tuduhan
> menebarkan kebencian dan diskriminasi terhadap orang-orang Muslim,
> ketika ia menyebut bahwa Al Quran itu mirip dengan buku Mein Kampf-nya
> Hitler; dan menyebut kitab suci umat Muslim itu sebagai sebuah
“buku
> fasis”.
> Â
> Wawancara saya dengan Wilders berkaitan dengan pemeriksaan yang tengah
ia jalani di pengadilan, ada di sini.
> Â
> Perlu diketahui bahwa pemeriksaan lanjutan dilakukan setelah jaksa
penuntut
> sebenarnya telah ‘melemparkan handuk’ (tanda
menyerah)Â pada Oktober
> tahun lalu.
> Radio Netherlands Internasional melaporkan:
> Pengadilan atas Geert Wilders sebenarnya sudah berakhir. Jaksa publik
telah
> memanggil para politisi populis untuk menghentikan semua tuduhan.
> Pengadilan itu sendiri akan dilanjutkan, tetapi semuanya sekarang
sudah
> menjadi sebuah anti-klimaks. Dalam kurun waktu dua hari argumentasi
yang penuh dengan intrik, jaksa penuntut mengatakan kepada pengadilan
bahwa
> mereka tidak menemukan satupun bukti yang menunjukkan Mr Wilders telah
> melanggar hukum.
> Â
> Sidang ditunda hingga 13 April 2011. Keputusan hakim diharapkan sudah
keluar
> pada bulan Juni. Sementara itu dalam sebuah perkembangan terpisah,
> sekurangnya terpisah dari kasus pengadilan yang saat ini ia jalani,
> Wilders hari ini kembali melakukan serangan terhadap Muhammad, dengan
> sebuah tulisan yang sangat keras, yang dipublikasikan di majalah
Belanda “HP/De Tijd.”
> Â
> Tulisan itu akan membuat orang-orang Muslim di Netherlands dan dunia
akan
> menjadi sangat marah. Wilders mengutip sumber-sumber yang menyebut
> Muhammad sebagai seorang yang “narsis, pedofil, pembunuh
massal,
> teroris, misoginis, penuh nafsu birahi, seorang pemimpin bidat, gila,
> pemerkosa, penganiaya, pembunuh dan penjarah...” Di samping
sebagai
> seorang psikopat yang suka berhalusinasi.
> Â
> Â
> Â
> Saatnya untuk membuka topeng Muhammad
> Oleh Geert Wilders
> Â
> Untuk mengetahui mengapa Islam adalah sebuah bahaya yang mematikan,
seseorang tidak hanya harus mengamatinya dari Quran, tetapi juga melalui
karakter Muhammad, yang melahirkan Quran dan Islam.
> Â
> Quran bukan hanya sebuah buku. Orang Muslim percaya bahwa Allah
sendiri yang
> menuliskan buku ini dan bahwa buku ini didiktekan kepada Muhammad
dalam
> versi aslinya, yaitu Umm al-Kitab, yang disimpan dalam sebuah meja di
> surga. Sebagai konsekuensi, orang tidak bisa berbantahan dengan
isinya.
> Siapa yang berani memperlihatkan ketidaksetujuannya dengan apa yang
> ditulis oleh Allah sendiri? Ini menjelaskan perilaku para pengikut
> Muhammad, dari kekerasan saat melaksanakan jihad hingga kebencian dan
> penganiayaan yang mereka lakukan terhadap orang-orang Yahudi, Kristen
> dan orang-orang Muslim lainnya, serta mereka yang murtad. Apa yang
kita
> anggap sebagai hal yang abnormal di Barat, sepenuhnya normal bagi
Islam.
> Â
> Masalah kedua yang tak kurang pentingnya mengenai Islam adalah,
berkaitan
> dengan figur Muhammad. Ia bukan hanya seseorang. Dia adalah seorang
> al-insan al-kamil, manusia yang sempurna. Untuk menjadi seorang
Muslim,
> seseorang harus mengucapkan kalimat syahadat (pengakuan Muslim).
Dengan
> mengucapkan syahadat, seseorang menyaksikan bahwa tidak ada tuhan yang
> bisa disembah kecuali Allah, dan dia bersaksi bahwa Muhammad itu
adalah
> utusan dan pelayannya Allah.
> Â
> Quran, dan juga Allah, meletakkan dasar bahwa kehidupan Muhammad harus
> diimitasi. Konsekuensi dari hal ini menjadi sesuatu yang menghebohkan,
> dan bisa kita saksikan setiap hari.
> Â
> Ada banyak analisa mengenai kegilaan mental Muhammad. Namun kendati
ada
> banyak riset yang dilakukan, sangat jarang hal itu disebut atau
> diperdebatkan. Dianggap sebagai sebuah tabu jika mendiskusikan natur
> dari seorang pria yang diyakini sebagai seorang rasul suci dan contoh
> yang harus diikuti oleh sekitar satu setengah milyar manusia. Tabu itu
> harus diputuskan di Barat dan di sini di Netherlands.
> Â
> Ali Sin

[proletar] Re: si super debil, Vittorio Arrigoni

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Memang sih panutannya @kim_gancu bukannya babi
mamun 1/2 babi-1/2 Yahudi? Mosok lupa? Babinya hutan
apa bukan @kim?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "kim"  wrote:
>
> Banyak didunia ini orang-orang ber-kategor rada debil, super debil dan
ultra debil. Ambil contoh orang satu ini, kelahiran Italia, Vittorio
Arrigoni. Aktifis berat dan pembela kasus Palestina.
>
> Saking cintanya arep, dia ditato dibawah kelek, dengan aksara arep.
Semasa
> hidupnya buka congor lebar-lebar buat mengutuk Israel, dan bungkam
jika
> arep naroh bom dibawah jok bis kota di Israel.
>
> Kemarin hari itu si Vittorio Arrigoni dicacag oleh golongan Salafist
pro
> Al Qaeda. Pasalnya Salafist lagi barter tahanan sama Hammas heu heu
> Salfist bilang sama Hammas, kalo gak kluarin sanderaan anggota
Salafist
> si Vittorio Arrigoni ini yg jadi maenan. Ya dicacag  heu heu, wah
edhan seh !
>
> Rupanya Hammas lagi duel cpngor sama Salafis. Ini menandakan cecunguk
> Islamist itu lagi perang internal. Seperti saya bilang, Islam itu
babi, babi
> belula !
>
> Okeh ?
>






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[proletar] Wilders Kembali Menyerang Muhammad http://buktidansaksi.com/blogs

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik siap murtad
Meskipun Persidangannya Masih Belum Selesai - Wilders Kembali Menyerang Muhammad

http://buktidansaksi.com/blogs


5 comments
   1Share 

Pengadilan Belanda hari Rabu lalu memutuskan untuk meneruskan pemeriksaan 
terhadap pemimpin Partai Kebebasan Belanda, Geert Wilders, atas tuduhan 
menebarkan kebencian dan diskriminasi terhadap orang-orang Muslim, 
ketika ia menyebut bahwa Al Quran itu mirip dengan buku Mein Kampf-nya 
Hitler; dan menyebut kitab suci umat Muslim itu sebagai sebuah “buku 
fasis”.
 
Wawancara saya dengan Wilders berkaitan dengan pemeriksaan yang tengah ia 
jalani di pengadilan, ada di sini.
 
Perlu diketahui bahwa pemeriksaan lanjutan dilakukan setelah jaksa penuntut 
sebenarnya telah ‘melemparkan handuk’ (tanda menyerah) pada Oktober 
tahun lalu.
Radio Netherlands Internasional melaporkan:
Pengadilan atas Geert Wilders sebenarnya sudah berakhir. Jaksa publik telah 
memanggil para politisi populis untuk menghentikan semua tuduhan. 
Pengadilan itu sendiri akan dilanjutkan, tetapi semuanya sekarang sudah 
menjadi sebuah anti-klimaks. Dalam kurun waktu dua hari argumentasi yang penuh 
dengan intrik, jaksa penuntut mengatakan kepada pengadilan bahwa 
mereka tidak menemukan satupun bukti yang menunjukkan Mr Wilders telah 
melanggar hukum.
 
Sidang ditunda hingga 13 April 2011. Keputusan hakim diharapkan sudah keluar 
pada bulan Juni. Sementara itu dalam sebuah perkembangan terpisah, 
sekurangnya terpisah dari kasus pengadilan yang saat ini ia jalani, 
Wilders hari ini kembali melakukan serangan terhadap Muhammad, dengan 
sebuah tulisan yang sangat keras, yang dipublikasikan di majalah Belanda “HP/De 
Tijd.”
 
Tulisan itu akan membuat orang-orang Muslim di Netherlands dan dunia akan 
menjadi sangat marah. Wilders mengutip sumber-sumber yang menyebut 
Muhammad sebagai seorang yang “narsis, pedofil, pembunuh massal, 
teroris, misoginis, penuh nafsu birahi, seorang pemimpin bidat, gila, 
pemerkosa, penganiaya, pembunuh dan penjarah...” Di samping sebagai 
seorang psikopat yang suka berhalusinasi.
 
 
 
Saatnya untuk membuka topeng Muhammad
Oleh Geert Wilders
 
Untuk mengetahui mengapa Islam adalah sebuah bahaya yang mematikan, seseorang 
tidak hanya harus mengamatinya dari Quran, tetapi juga melalui karakter 
Muhammad, yang melahirkan Quran dan Islam.
 
Quran bukan hanya sebuah buku. Orang Muslim percaya bahwa Allah sendiri yang 
menuliskan buku ini dan bahwa buku ini didiktekan kepada Muhammad dalam 
versi aslinya, yaitu Umm al-Kitab, yang disimpan dalam sebuah meja di 
surga. Sebagai konsekuensi, orang tidak bisa berbantahan dengan isinya. 
Siapa yang berani memperlihatkan ketidaksetujuannya dengan apa yang 
ditulis oleh Allah sendiri? Ini menjelaskan perilaku para pengikut 
Muhammad, dari kekerasan saat melaksanakan jihad hingga kebencian dan 
penganiayaan yang mereka lakukan terhadap orang-orang Yahudi, Kristen 
dan orang-orang Muslim lainnya, serta mereka yang murtad. Apa yang kita 
anggap sebagai hal yang abnormal di Barat, sepenuhnya normal bagi Islam.
 
Masalah kedua yang tak kurang pentingnya mengenai Islam adalah, berkaitan 
dengan figur Muhammad. Ia bukan hanya seseorang. Dia adalah seorang 
al-insan al-kamil, manusia yang sempurna. Untuk menjadi seorang Muslim, 
seseorang harus mengucapkan kalimat syahadat (pengakuan Muslim). Dengan 
mengucapkan syahadat, seseorang menyaksikan bahwa tidak ada tuhan yang 
bisa disembah kecuali Allah, dan dia bersaksi bahwa Muhammad itu adalah 
utusan dan pelayannya Allah.
 
Quran, dan juga Allah, meletakkan dasar bahwa kehidupan Muhammad harus 
diimitasi. Konsekuensi dari hal ini menjadi sesuatu yang menghebohkan, 
dan bisa kita saksikan setiap hari.
 
Ada banyak analisa mengenai kegilaan mental Muhammad. Namun kendati ada 
banyak riset yang dilakukan, sangat jarang hal itu disebut atau 
diperdebatkan. Dianggap sebagai sebuah tabu jika mendiskusikan natur 
dari seorang pria yang diyakini sebagai seorang rasul suci dan contoh 
yang harus diikuti oleh sekitar satu setengah milyar manusia. Tabu itu 
harus diputuskan di Barat dan di sini di Netherlands.
 
Ali Sina adalah seorang eks Muslim dari Iran yang mendirikan organisasi 
untuk orang-orang yang murtad dari Islam yaitu Faithfreedom 
International. Dalam bukunya yang terakhir, ia menjelaskan bahwa 
Muhammad itu adalah seorang narsis, pedofil, pembunuh massal, teroris, 
misoginis, penuh dengan nafsu birahi, pemimpin bidat, seorang pria gila, 
pemerkosa, penganiaya, pembunuh dan perampok(*). Sina telah menawarkan 50.000 
dollar bagi mereka yang bisa membuktikan hal yang sebaliknya mengenai 
Muhammad. Sampai sekarang tak ada seorang pun yang memenangkan 
tawarannya itu. Dan hal ini tidak mengherankan, sebab deskripsi yang ia 
buat sesungguhnya bersumber dari teks-teks Islam sendiri seperti hadis, 
yang mendeskripsikan kehidupan Muhammad dari kesaksian-kesaksian 
orang-orang yang hidup pada zamannya.
 
Muhammad yang historis adalah pemimpin biadab dari sebuah gang para perampok 
dari Medina. Tanpa segan-sega

Re: Bls: [proletar] Nabi gila dan film porno

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Si @dapurmu kehabisan bahan. Mempostingkan balik yg pernah direspon. Kan
sudah tak bilang, agar Luth a.s maupun tamunya ga dipermalukan maka yg
kudu nawarkan 4nus kan ayah-ibu-keluargamu sekalian?

Luth KATEBE, belagak ga tau yg disodorkan anak-anaknya adalah anggur
memabukkan. Mosok sih ga tahu baunya yang ga diperbolehkan Allah swt
menenggaknya? Nah gantian, dalam keadaan ga sadar lagi-lagi KATEBE, dia
nyodorkan kunthul hingga para anaknya hamil. Apa status si Luth menurut
nT pada, di Bibel? Menambah seremnya doank biar pembaca pada ng4c3n9?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe coba gua kasih ayat germo di Quran, lu percaya apa kagak.
>
> Si Lut ini mau jadi germo gratis dg nawarin anak2nya unt digarap rame2
ketimbang
> namanya tercemar.
>
> 78. Dan datanglah kepadanya kaumnya dengan bergegas-gegas. Dan sejak 
dahulu
> mereka selalu melakukan perbuatan-perbuatan yang keji [730]. Luth 
berkata: "Hai
> kaumku, inilah puteri-puteriku, mereka lebih suci bagimu,  maka
bertakwalah
> kepada Allah dan janganlah kamu mencemarkan (nama)ku  terhadap tamuku
ini. Tidak
> adakah di antaramu seorang yang berakal ?"
>
> [730] Maksudnya perbuatan keji di sini ialah: mengerjakan liwath
(homosexuil).
>
> Dari perkataan si Lut yg dianggap nabi oleh tawangalun ini, tentunya
orang
> berakal akan merkosa anak2 si Lut rame2. Makanya ga heran tuh si
tawangalun jg
> nganjurin spy merkosa Cino2 spt kejadian thn 1998, merkosa rame2
tentunya.
>
> Hehehe... ternyata kayak gitu definisi orang berakal di Islam, yaitu
milih
> merkosa cewek begitu ada kesempatan.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Tawangalun tawangalun@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 4:19:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Bls: [proletar] Nabi gila dan film porno
>
>
> Memang beda si Iten dengan saya.Saya kalau ada ayat selangkangan di
Alkitab saya
> langsung gak percoyo gak mungkin Nabi2 kok diberitakan minir,nek Abu
justru
> kalau ada ayat selangkangan malah percoyo.Tapi begitu saya sodori ayat
mukjizat
> gak percoyo.La saya kalau ada ayat mukjizat Yesus kok malah percoyo.
> Soale si Item itu maunya hanya ayat yg selangkangan.
>
> Tawangalun.
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Orang Islam itu emang gobloknya minta ampun.
> >
> > Markus 3:21 itu bilang orang lain mikir Yesus ga waras, jadi cuma
pendapat
> >orang
> >
> > lain doang. Dan pendapat orang itu bisa salah.
> >
> > Sebaliknya hadis sahih Bukhari bilang nabi itu halusinasi parah, ini
adalah
> > faktanya nurut hadis. Orang boleh aja bilang nabi ga gila, faktanya
adalah nabi
> >
> > itu halusinasi parah selama 2 thn. Tinggal make otak aja buat
ngambil
> > kesimpulan, apa nabi islam itu gila apa kagak.
> >
> >
> > Apa orang yg berhalusinasi parah mikir ngentotin bininya padahal
kagak itu ga
> > gila?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: PAREWA parewa70@
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 5:12:02 PM
> > Subject: Bls: [proletar] Nabi gila dan film porno
> >
> >
> > Ini maksudnya?
> >
> > "Waktu
> > kaum keluarga-Nya mendengar hal itu, mereka datang hendak mengambil
> > Dia, sebab kata mereka Ia tidak waras lagi. " (markus 3:21)
> >
> > --- Pada Ming, 27/3/11, item abu itemabu@ menulis:
> >
> > Dari: item abu itemabu@
> > Judul: [proletar] Nabi gila dan film porno
> > Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Tanggal: Minggu, 27 Maret, 2011, 4:22 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > ...  he began to fancy that he was doing a thing which he was not
actually
> >doing
> >
> >
> >
> > he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while
he actually
>
> >
> > had not
> >
> > The Prophet continued for such-and-such period imagining that he has
slept (had
> >
> >
> > sexual relations) with his wives, and in fact he did not
> >
> > Hehehe hadis nunjukin bhw nabi Islam itu berhalusinasi ngentotin
bininya,
> >
> > padahal kagak sama sekali. Berarti nabi Islam itu gila parah,
ditambah dgn
> >fakta
> >
> >
> >
> > dia ngaku suka didatangi Jibril di depan orang lain, maka si nabi
ini udah
> >sampe
> >
> >
> >
> > ke tahap gila parah alias schizzophrenia.
> >
> > Bayangin aja kalo si nabi lagi kumat di depan orang banyak, tiba2 si
nabi buka
>
> >
> > pakean lalu ngecret ke mana2 krn mikir lagi ngentotin bininya.
> >
> > Ga heran kalo si Aisha selalu sibuk ngebersihin hasil ngecret nabi
ini.
> >
> > I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I
used to
> >wash
> >
> >
> >
> > it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle
> >
> > Hihihi... kayak di film porno aja nih cerita nabi yg ngecret ke
mana2. Tp, mana
> >
> >
> > ada produser film porno yg make aktor yg gila?
> >
> > Semua hadis sohih Bukhori
> >
> > Volume 4, Book 54, Number 490:
> >
> > Narrated 'Aisha:
> >
> > Magic was worked on the Prophet so that he began to fancy that he
was doing a
> >
> > thing which he was not actually doing. One day he invoked (Allah)
for a long
> >
> > period and then said, "I feel that Alla

[proletar] Re: Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert to Islam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Hahahaha . Cari tuh di Al Qur'an yg Allah swt menyampaikan
demikian but KATEBE,  tuhanmu. @Dapurmu jangan belagak pilon.
Kamu termasuk yg bahkan kelak ga bakalan di adili Yesus a.s dan 12
(baca: dua belas!!!) muridnya.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Yg paling banyak ngebunuh orang Iraq, Afghan dan Libya itu adalah
orang Islam,
> eh salah, maksud gua, anjing-babi Islam. Bukan non Islam, hehehe...
>
> Kalo yg ngebunuh tkw di Saudi itu anjing-babi atau bukan?
>
> Kalo gua yg ngejawab sih, yg ngebunuh tkw di Saudi itu sama sekali
bukan anjing
> atau babi, krn orang Islam itu masih lebih rendah dr anjing dan babi.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ndeboost rambitesemak@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 6:46:01 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced
to convert
> to Islam
>
>
> Nah kan kalau yg kek gini ditulisnya ditekankan: "Christian Girls"
namun
> kalau anjing-babi yg mbunuhin rakyat Irak-Afghan-Libya ga ada pakai
> Kristen (anjing)?
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Inilah bukti Islam itu adalah agama yg benar, benar2 bejad,
hehehe
> >
> >
> > Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert to Islam
> April 14,
> > 2011
> >
> > Citing several examples, the Fides news agency reports that hundreds
> of
> > Christian girls in Pakistan have been abducted, forced to convert to
> Islam, and
> > raped or forced into marriages.
> >
> > “The Christian girls are the weakest and most vulnerable,
> because their
> > communities are poor, defenseless and marginalized, therefore easily
> exposed to
> > harassment and threats,” said a nun who hides girls who have
> escaped their
> > captors. Often they do not even have the courage to  denounce the
> violence.”
> >
> > “The trend is worrying,” she added. “There are
> hundreds of cases a year
> > registered, and those that come to light are only a
fraction.”
> >
> > Source(s): these links will take you to other sites, in a new
window.
> >  * Christian girls, victims of forced conversions to Islam, rapes
and
> forced
> > marriages (Fides)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: Sale: 1 cewek = 1 kambing, hehehe....

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Cewe dihargai kambing? He he he . Senengnya.
Bagaimana tuhanmu yg adalah anak kambing?
'Mangnya tuhan bapa-lu bandot, mbeeekkk?

Yesus a.s selalu menyampaikan yg beliau adalah anak manusia namun kamu
lebih ngedeger si 1/2 babi-1/2 Yahudi, pendusta lagi. Pakai donk utegmu.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Link di bawah ini ngasih liat gimana cewek dijual oleh bapaknya
ditukar dgn
> kambing misalnya
>
>
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/04/15/islamic-family-honor-selling-daughter\
s-into-sex-slavery-for-sheep/
>
>
> Katanya sih itu tradisi di Afghan, tp kalo dipikir, semua yg dilakukan
itu
> adalah sesuai dgn islam. Cewek itu halal asal bayar mahar (kambing
misalnya),
> lalu si cewek itu bisa digarap sesuka hati sesuai dgn Quran. Kalo si
cewek ga
> patuh, maka si cewek bisa digebukin. Cewek dilarang keluar rumah tanpa
ijin, ga
> boleh ketemu orang non muhrim. Dan terakhir, si cewek itu bisa dicerai
dgn 3
> kata tanpa ada kewajiban ngasih sesuatu ke si cewek.
>
> Dgn kata lain, asal si cewek udah dibeli (pake kambing misalnya), maka
si cewek
> itu udah jadi milik yg beli. Ga beda dgn kambing.
>
> Ini semua ada di Quran, dan jg sesuai dgn syariat iblis.
>
> Jadi gimana Islam ngehargai cewek? Ya paling2 seharga kambing.
>
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>






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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Kwkwkwkwk.Sesekali ngerampog patent-nya @Yusfliq, sebelum ngamuk
dia.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Udah jelas krn si suryana itu doyan jilat pantat bajingan2 tukang
fitnah dsb,
> > maka bajingan2 tsb akan bermanis mulut jg dgn si suryana. Tp tiap
saat, para
> > bajingan islam ini bisa balik ngebantai, ngerampok dan merkosa si
suryana dan
> > keluarganya.
> >
>
>
> jangan suka memfitnah gitu...
>
> kelakuan orang kristen seperti elu memang bisanya cuma ngayal jorok
aja, karena kebiasaan ngeloco mulu.  masak lu bisa2nya ngayal
mengharapkan keluarga orang lain supaya tertimpa musibah?
>
> ini kan kelakuan orang najis dan nista.
>
> mendoakan orang tuh doa yang bagus seperti doanya tuhan jesus,
bukannya mendoakan orang tertimpa musibah.  memangnya di gereja lu
sering diajarin mendoakan dan nyumpahin orang lain?
>
> makanya nggak heran kalo gereja lu dibakar abis, memang kelakuan
gereja lu nista dan menjijikkan gituh sih.
>
>
> > Hehehe apa si suryana ini ga punya anggota keluarga yg pernah
ngalami
> > serangan orang Islam? Gua sih punya, ada sanak gua yg udah dikepung
orang Islam
> > di dlm gereja, biarpun boleh keluar sambil digebukin tp akhirnya
gerejanya
> > dibakar sampe habis.
> >
>
>
> lu nggak sekalian digamparin juga tuh?
>
> atau, elu udah langsung ngacir terbirit-birit seperti anjing budug
digebukin kayu persis seperti kelakuan murid2nya tuhan jesus yang ngacir
terkencing-kencing ketika jesus ditangkap.
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: PAREWA parewa70@
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 8:05:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> >
> > Wah kalo ada orang dimilis ini yg tdk suka sama Suryana berarti tuh
orang udah
> > ngga beres. Walau suryana kristen, tapi dimata orang islam di milis
ini ia
> > dinilai terpelajar dan tidak busuk hati tukang fitnah macam nasarani
grepe atau
> > nasarani preman psikopat macam item abu. Salut Bung Sur!
> >
> > --- Pada Jum, 15/4/11, widura a.widura@ menulis:
> >
> > Dari: widura a.widura@
> > Judul: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Tanggal: Jumat, 15 April, 2011, 2:41 PM
> >
> > Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2
aja nyuruh
> > saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Abbas" abas_amin08@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> > Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
> > kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si
tawangalun dan cs nya
> > >
> > > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> > >
> > > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya,
ga sadis
> > > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "bangmossad@" 
> > > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > >
> > > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya,   kalo ajarannya diberikan pada
bangsa2 yg yg
> > > bukan yahudi, ya gitu...
> > >
> > > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: item abu 
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ndeboost 
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > >
> > > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini
bukan
> > > fitnah dan atau kriminal?
> > >
> > > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga?
Jadi
> > > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus
lalu tak
> > > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah.
nDeboost
> > > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank.
> > >
> > > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal
bukan?
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah
itu sbg
> > > kriminal?
> > > >
> > > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu
sesama
> > > lu yg
> > > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh

[proletar] Re: Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Gombal buta kamu. Kalau sudah benci tinggal emosi doang, utegnya
ditinggal di 4anus utk baptisan para pastur. (Nantikan kamu paling tanya
hadistnya. Tukang kopas mana punya inisiatip sendiri)

Mainan boneka 'mangnya privillage cewe (kecil) doank? Lagi-lagi buta
kamu. Tanya sono sama ibumu usia berapa dia berhenti ngumpulin boneka.
Bahkan para crosstian sampai mau masuk kuburpun masih disuruh ngekep
boneka, mesti bentuknya kek tiang jemuran. (Kadang ada bonekanya juga)

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... yg ada itu cuma bukti si Aisha diembat di usia 9 thn, ga ada
bukti bhw
> si Aisha udah mens. Emangnya lu yg bersihin mens si Aisha?
>
> Sebaliknya, hadis justru bilang si Aisha blm mens, krn si Aisha masih
dijinkan
> main boneka yg berarti si Aisha masih dianggap blm dewasa.
>
> Anyway, lu ini berarti nganggap gpp ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn,
hehehe
> Ternyata lu ngedukung pedophilia jg kayak si tawangalun, berarti lu
sama
> bajingannya.
>
> Dan tetap aja faktanya adalah kalo nabi lu ngembat anak ingusan 6 thn,
nabi lu
> akan dianggap nabi suci yg lagi ibadah spy lu bisa niru kelakuannya
ngembat anak
> 6 thn.
>
> Anak 6 thn sih masih terlalu kecil lobangnya buat dimasukin, makanya
nabi lu
> cuma sekedar naroh kontolnya di selangkangan Aisha, ga dimasukin, tp
dielus2 aja
> tu kontol.  Jadi siapa bilang nabi lu ga ngumpul dgn Aisha sebelum
Aisha 9 thn?
>
> Buktinya banyak tuh orang2 Islam yg punya hobi serupa, naroh kontolnya
di
> selangkangan anak ingusan buat ngecret sepuasnya, biarpun ga di dlm
lobang.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ndeboost rambitesemak@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 6:40:18 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child
Porn
>
>
> Hehehe 
> Dungu nT. Baca aja gak becus.
> Muhammad saw ngumpulnya setelah Aisyah mens,
> usianya 9 tahun. Yg ini 6 tahun.
> Mosok ga jelas mbaca 6 vs 9?
> @dapurmu 'tul dungu. He he he he ...
>
> Coba kamu baca baik-baik kalimat dibawah, kalau kamu dungunya banyak
> sedikit mesti tahu maksudnya, kwkwkwkwk 
>
> Kel 22:2-3
>
> (2) Jika seorang pencuri kedapatan waktu membongkar, dan ia dipukul
> orang sehingga mati, maka si pemukul tidak berhutang darah; (3) 
tetapi
> jika pembunuhan itu terjadi setelah matahari terbit, maka ia berhutang
> darah. Pencuri itu harus membayar ganti kerugian sepenuhnya; jika ia
> orang yang tak punya, ia harus dijual ganti apa yang dicurinya itu.
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Kalo nabi yg melakukannya sih malahan disebut nabi suci lagi
> beribadah, spy bisa
> > ditiru oleh orang Islam, hehehe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 5:48:56 AM
> > Subject: [proletar] Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child
Porn
> >
> >
> > Ga di tambah kok judulnya misalnya Bule's Couple Accused Of Using
> > 6-Year-Old For Child Porn atau Chritian's Couple Accused Of Using
> > 6-Year-Old For Child Porn.
> >
> > Reed City, MI â€" According to police, 19-year-old Stephen
> > Graham-Wright and his girlfriend, 20-year-old Kayla Grillo, have
been
> > arrested and accused of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a 6-year
> old
> > girl. Police say the child was taken from her home in Hersey
Township
> > early Sunday morning, and assaulted at another home in Big Rapids.
> > Grillo reportedly swiped the kid that morning and took her to a
> > get-together at Wright's home. Police say that at some point during
> > the visit, the child was sexually assaulted. And based on the
charges,
> > one would have to assume the assault was captured on video. During a
> > search of Wright's apartment the following day, officials seized
> > three computers. Grillo, though related to the child, did not have
> > permission to remove the girl from her home and did so without the
> > parent's knowledge. She's being held without bond, charged with
> > kidnapping. Wright has been charged with kidnapping, second-degree
> > criminal sexual conduct, and accosting a child for immoral purposes.
> He
> > remains behind bars on $1 million bond. Friends of the couple say
the
> > whole thing has been blown out of proportion. "I know Steve,
> > he's the closest thing I have ever had to a brother," says
> > Chandra Fuller. "I mean he tells me everything. He's not capable
> > of it."
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: Hamas blames Israel for death of Italian activist

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Ke Palestina ikut dulu bergelap-gelap nyuruk masuk trowongan kehidupan
atau bawa obat kanker utk anak-anak baru bisa treak pis, itupun di
Yeruzalim. Paling setelah pulang ke Itali masuk Palestina bawa bom atau
roket, bukan apa-apa. Nembakin bandit Yahudi.

Namun paling pas keknya ke Vatikan, tanya kapan tuh Paus mau ke Israel
kampanye damai. nTar kan dia ini yg bekas SS bakalan di sate Yahudi. 
Istana Paus kan masih Itali juga?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe orang Islam Palestina ngebunuh orang Italia penjilat pantat
> Palestina, tp yg salah itu adalah Israel, Islam itu emang agama yg
benar, bukan?
>
> Apa si habe akan kaing2 lagi ngoceh dia punya 2 buku karangan Robert
> Spencer?Kayaknya si habe itu demi ngebela sesama Islam plusnya, rela
unt kaing2
> apa aja kayak anjing buduk kejepit buntut.
>
> Semoga si habe nerusin kaing2nya, hehehe...
>
>
> Gee, didn't see that coming: Hamas blames Israel for death of Italian
activist
> Selective as it is about who is "innocent" (school buses  full of
Israeli
> children are right out), Hamas' moral objection to the  killing of
Vittorio
> Arrigoni boils down to "darn it, this was one of our guys." After
their initial
> statement, Hamas has evidently decided upon  further deliberation that
it is
> more profitable, however far-fetched, to  blame Israel than fellow
Muslims.
> Hence the U-turn in assigning blame.
> An update on this story. "Hamas claims Israel killed Italian to stop
Gaza
> flotilla," from the Jerusalem Post, April 15:
> Radical Islamic terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip  distanced
themselves
> from the kidnapping and murder of Italian activist  Vittorio Arrigoni,
who was
> found dead early Friday morning in the Strip.
> Among the groups who disclaimed the attack was Tawhid  wal-Jihad, the
> al-Qaida-linked group that had initially said it was  holding the
Italian
> national and said they would only release him if  their own leader,
recently
> arrested by Hamas, was released, Gaza-based newspaper Palestine Today
reported.
> Hamas also condemned the killing, saying that it was a  shameful act,
contrary
> to the tradition of the Palestinian people. Hamas  spokesman Fawzi
Barhoum said
> that the "goal of this depraved band of  outlaws was to spread chaos
and anarchy
> in the Gaza Strip, a desperate  attempt to strike at the stable
security
> situation."
> He added that the kidnapping and murder of Arrigoni was  intended to
prevent the
> next flotilla headed to the Gaza Strip, expected  to depart next
month. Barhoum
> explained that he believed the murder was meant to dissuade other
foreign
> activists from arriving in the Strip.
> Accordingly, Hamas accused Israel of being behind the  attack, noting
that
> Arrigoni had often spoken out against Israeli  policies in Gaza, going
so far as
> to compare what he called "Israeli  crimes against Palestinians" to
Nazi crimes.
> Additionally, he was twice  arrested by Israeli authorities.
> Security personnel in the Gaza Strip found Arrigoni's body  in an
abandoned
> house in the Gaza Strip following his abduction by  terrorists, a
Hamas official
> said on Friday.
> Two men were arrested and others were being sought in the killing of
Vittorio
> Arrigoni, the Hamas official added.
> A Jihadist Salafi group in Gaza aligned with al-Qaida had  threatened
on
> Thursday to execute Arrigoni by 5 p.m. local time (2 p.m. GMT) unless
their
> leader, arrested by Hamas last month, was freed.Posted by Marisol on
April 15,
> 2011 10:27 AM  | 6 Comments
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik rezameutia
lu niru tuhan jesus piara cabo dan hidupnya dari hasil nyabo maria?
mungkin aja lu bisa jadi tuhan kalo lu piara cabo seperti tuhan jesus, tapi 
nama cabonya musti sama dengan nama ibu elu.  seperti tuhan jesus.

hehehe



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Kalo nabi yg melakukannya sih malahan disebut nabi suci lagi beribadah, spy 
> bisa 
> ditiru oleh orang Islam, hehehe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ndeboost 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 5:48:56 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn
> 
>
> Ga di tambah kok judulnya misalnya Bule's Couple Accused Of Using
> 6-Year-Old For Child Porn atau Chritian's Couple Accused Of Using
> 6-Year-Old For Child Porn.
> 
> Reed City, MI â€" According to police, 19-year-old Stephen
> Graham-Wright and his girlfriend, 20-year-old Kayla Grillo, have been
> arrested and accused of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a 6-year old
> girl. Police say the child was taken from her home in Hersey Township
> early Sunday morning, and assaulted at another home in Big Rapids.
> Grillo reportedly swiped the kid that morning and took her to a
> get-together at Wright's home. Police say that at some point during
> the visit, the child was sexually assaulted. And based on the charges,
> one would have to assume the assault was captured on video. During a
> search of Wright's apartment the following day, officials seized
> three computers. Grillo, though related to the child, did not have
> permission to remove the girl from her home and did so without the
> parent's knowledge. She's being held without bond, charged with
> kidnapping. Wright has been charged with kidnapping, second-degree
> criminal sexual conduct, and accosting a child for immoral purposes. He
> remains behind bars on $1 million bond. Friends of the couple say the
> whole thing has been blown out of proportion. "I know Steve,
> he's the closest thing I have ever had to a brother," says
> Chandra Fuller. "I mean he tells me everything. He's not capable
> of it."
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik rezameutia
suryana temennya lebih banyak dari elu.

dan yang jelas, suryana itu nggak dilecehkan di milis ini seperti elu, jusfiq, 
pecundang tolol.

yang bajingan tuh siapa?

jusfiq udajh jelas dijadikan bahawa tertawaan di milis ini selama puluhan 
tahun, bahkan udah tua bangka kayak gitu masih digamparin orang juga dalam 
kehidupan nyata.

elu?  nothing but a loser.  

elu kan kerjaannya cuman ngayal dan ngeloco aja di milis ini.  seperti tipikal 
pecundang tolol, elu bukannya ngelawan balik ke penyerbu, malahan menumpahkan 
kemarahan elu dengan ngeloco ke member milis ini yang nggak ikutan nyerbu 
gereja elu.

dasar cina loleng tolol.




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> hehehe kalo si suryana ini anti bajingan, tentunya si habe akan ngoceh si 
> suryana itu cina pontianak atau chokin singkawang. 
> 
> 
> tp berhubung si suryana ini ga anti bajingan yg mau jilat pantatnya, si habe 
> akan dengan mesranya saling jilat pantat dgn suryana, ga ada sebutan cina, 
> cina 
> pontianak dsb.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Jusfiq 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:58:51 PM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> 
>
> 
> Otak babi.
> 
> Otak binatang.
> 
> Sedeng.
> 
> suryana itu orang katolik yang udah jadi nista penjilat pantat orang Islam 
> salafy hingga jadi pendukung Tawang yang menyuruh orang memperkosa perempuan 
> Tionghoa, artinya termasuk istri atau anak-anak Suryana itu.
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> >
> > kalo bener kang sur katolik.. brarti omongan gw tepat,
> > lo anjing kampung yg gak bisa bedain mana tai.. mana kue
> > asal gonggong tiap ada orang lewat...
> > artinya, ngomong asal mangap.. tanpa dipikir
> >  
> > gw bukan katolik tapi tau banget orang katolik,
> > kalo orang katholik udah maki² orang itu tandanya
> > sedang maki² orang amoral
> >  
> > nah.. gw mo liat postingan lo berikutnya,
> > asal mangap ato pakai otak...
> > milis ini punya piaraan tukang maki² yg bisa buat gampar²-an
> > ato di suruh² jadi tukang loper koran...
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga 
> > > sadis 
> > > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
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[proletar] Hamas blames Israel for death of Italian activist

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe orang Islam Palestina ngebunuh orang Italia penjilat pantat 
Palestina, tp yg salah itu adalah Israel, Islam itu emang agama yg benar, bukan?

Apa si habe akan kaing2 lagi ngoceh dia punya 2 buku karangan Robert 
Spencer?Kayaknya si habe itu demi ngebela sesama Islam plusnya, rela unt kaing2 
apa aja kayak anjing buduk kejepit buntut.

Semoga si habe nerusin kaing2nya, hehehe...


Gee, didn't see that coming: Hamas blames Israel for death of Italian activist
Selective as it is about who is "innocent" (school buses  full of Israeli 
children are right out), Hamas' moral objection to the  killing of Vittorio 
Arrigoni boils down to "darn it, this was one of our guys." After their initial 
statement, Hamas has evidently decided upon  further deliberation that it is 
more profitable, however far-fetched, to  blame Israel than fellow Muslims. 
Hence the U-turn in assigning blame.
An update on this story. "Hamas claims Israel killed Italian to stop Gaza 
flotilla," from the Jerusalem Post, April 15:
Radical Islamic terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip  distanced themselves 
from the kidnapping and murder of Italian activist  Vittorio Arrigoni, who was 
found dead early Friday morning in the Strip.
Among the groups who disclaimed the attack was Tawhid  wal-Jihad, the 
al-Qaida-linked group that had initially said it was  holding the Italian 
national and said they would only release him if  their own leader, recently 
arrested by Hamas, was released, Gaza-based newspaper Palestine Today reported.
Hamas also condemned the killing, saying that it was a  shameful act, contrary 
to the tradition of the Palestinian people. Hamas  spokesman Fawzi Barhoum said 
that the "goal of this depraved band of  outlaws was to spread chaos and 
anarchy 
in the Gaza Strip, a desperate  attempt to strike at the stable security 
situation."
He added that the kidnapping and murder of Arrigoni was  intended to prevent 
the 
next flotilla headed to the Gaza Strip, expected  to depart next month. Barhoum 
explained that he believed the murder was meant to dissuade other foreign 
activists from arriving in the Strip.
Accordingly, Hamas accused Israel of being behind the  attack, noting that 
Arrigoni had often spoken out against Israeli  policies in Gaza, going so far 
as 
to compare what he called "Israeli  crimes against Palestinians" to Nazi 
crimes. 
Additionally, he was twice  arrested by Israeli authorities.
Security personnel in the Gaza Strip found Arrigoni's body  in an abandoned 
house in the Gaza Strip following his abduction by  terrorists, a Hamas 
official 
said on Friday.
Two men were arrested and others were being sought in the killing of Vittorio 
Arrigoni, the Hamas official added.
A Jihadist Salafi group in Gaza aligned with al-Qaida had  threatened on 
Thursday to execute Arrigoni by 5 p.m. local time (2 p.m. GMT) unless their 
leader, arrested by Hamas last month, was freed.Posted by Marisol on April 15, 
2011 10:27 AM  | 6 Comments 

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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik rezameutia

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Udah jelas krn si suryana itu doyan jilat pantat bajingan2 tukang fitnah dsb, 
> maka bajingan2 tsb akan bermanis mulut jg dgn si suryana. Tp tiap saat, para 
> bajingan islam ini bisa balik ngebantai, ngerampok dan merkosa si suryana dan 
> keluarganya.
> 


jangan suka memfitnah gitu...

kelakuan orang kristen seperti elu memang bisanya cuma ngayal jorok aja, karena 
kebiasaan ngeloco mulu.  masak lu bisa2nya ngayal mengharapkan keluarga orang 
lain supaya tertimpa musibah?  

ini kan kelakuan orang najis dan nista.

mendoakan orang tuh doa yang bagus seperti doanya tuhan jesus, bukannya 
mendoakan orang tertimpa musibah.  memangnya di gereja lu sering diajarin 
mendoakan dan nyumpahin orang lain?

makanya nggak heran kalo gereja lu dibakar abis, memang kelakuan gereja lu 
nista dan menjijikkan gituh sih.


> Hehehe apa si suryana ini ga punya anggota keluarga yg pernah ngalami 
> serangan orang Islam? Gua sih punya, ada sanak gua yg udah dikepung orang 
> Islam 
> di dlm gereja, biarpun boleh keluar sambil digebukin tp akhirnya gerejanya 
> dibakar sampe habis.
> 


lu nggak sekalian digamparin juga tuh?  

atau, elu udah langsung ngacir terbirit-birit seperti anjing budug digebukin 
kayu persis seperti kelakuan murid2nya tuhan jesus yang ngacir 
terkencing-kencing ketika jesus ditangkap.





> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: PAREWA 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 8:05:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> 
>
> Wah kalo ada orang dimilis ini yg tdk suka sama Suryana berarti tuh orang 
> udah 
> ngga beres. Walau suryana kristen, tapi dimata orang islam di milis ini ia 
> dinilai terpelajar dan tidak busuk hati tukang fitnah macam nasarani grepe 
> atau 
> nasarani preman psikopat macam item abu. Salut Bung Sur!
> 
> --- Pada Jum, 15/4/11, widura  menulis:
> 
> Dari: widura 
> Judul: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 15 April, 2011, 2:41 PM
> 
> Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja nyuruh 
> saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Abbas" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> 
> Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
> kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun dan cs 
> > nya 
> >
> > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> > 
> > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > From: "bangmossad@" 
> > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > 
> >
> > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya,   kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg 
> > yg 
> > bukan yahudi, ya gitu... 
> > 
> > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis 
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® 
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: item abu  
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48 
> > To:  
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ndeboost  
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > 
> > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan 
> > fitnah dan atau kriminal? 
> > 
> > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi 
> > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu tak 
> > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost 
> > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank. 
> > 
> > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan? 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu sbg 
> > kriminal? 
> > > 
> > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu sesama 
> > lu yg 
> > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu? 
> > > 
> > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal 
> > si 
> > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya malu 
> > drpd 
> > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe... 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ 
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > >

Re: [proletar] Re: Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert to Islam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Yg paling banyak ngebunuh orang Iraq, Afghan dan Libya itu adalah orang Islam, 
eh salah, maksud gua, anjing-babi Islam. Bukan non Islam, hehehe...

Kalo yg ngebunuh tkw di Saudi itu anjing-babi atau bukan?

Kalo gua yg ngejawab sih, yg ngebunuh tkw di Saudi itu sama sekali bukan anjing 
atau babi, krn orang Islam itu masih lebih rendah dr anjing dan babi.







From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 6:46:01 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert 
to Islam

   
Nah kan kalau yg kek gini ditulisnya ditekankan: "Christian Girls" namun
kalau anjing-babi yg mbunuhin rakyat Irak-Afghan-Libya ga ada pakai
Kristen (anjing)?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Inilah bukti Islam itu adalah agama yg benar, benar2 bejad, hehehe
>
>
> Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert to Islam 
April 14,
> 2011
>
> Citing several examples, the Fides news agency reports that hundreds 
of
> Christian girls in Pakistan have been abducted, forced to convert to 
Islam, and
> raped or forced into marriages.
>
> “The Christian girls are the weakest and most vulnerable,
because their
> communities are poor, defenseless and marginalized, therefore easily 
exposed to
> harassment and threats,” said a nun who hides girls who have 
escaped their
> captors. Often they do not even have the courage to  denounce the
violence.”
>
> “The trend is worrying,” she added. “There are
hundreds of cases a year
> registered, and those that come to light are only a fraction.”
>
> Source(s): these links will take you to other sites, in a new window.
>  * Christian girls, victims of forced conversions to Islam, rapes and
forced
> marriages (Fides)
>
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Re: [proletar] Re: Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe... yg ada itu cuma bukti si Aisha diembat di usia 9 thn, ga ada bukti 
bhw 
si Aisha udah mens. Emangnya lu yg bersihin mens si Aisha?

Sebaliknya, hadis justru bilang si Aisha blm mens, krn si Aisha masih dijinkan 
main boneka yg berarti si Aisha masih dianggap blm dewasa.

Anyway, lu ini berarti nganggap gpp ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn, hehehe 
Ternyata lu ngedukung pedophilia jg kayak si tawangalun, berarti lu sama 
bajingannya.

Dan tetap aja faktanya adalah kalo nabi lu ngembat anak ingusan 6 thn, nabi lu 
akan dianggap nabi suci yg lagi ibadah spy lu bisa niru kelakuannya ngembat 
anak 
6 thn.

Anak 6 thn sih masih terlalu kecil lobangnya buat dimasukin, makanya nabi lu 
cuma sekedar naroh kontolnya di selangkangan Aisha, ga dimasukin, tp dielus2 
aja 
tu kontol.  Jadi siapa bilang nabi lu ga ngumpul dgn Aisha sebelum Aisha 9 thn?

Buktinya banyak tuh orang2 Islam yg punya hobi serupa, naroh kontolnya di 
selangkangan anak ingusan buat ngecret sepuasnya, biarpun ga di dlm lobang.






From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 6:40:18 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn

   
Hehehe 
Dungu nT. Baca aja gak becus.
Muhammad saw ngumpulnya setelah Aisyah mens,
usianya 9 tahun. Yg ini 6 tahun.
Mosok ga jelas mbaca 6 vs 9?
@dapurmu 'tul dungu. He he he he ...

Coba kamu baca baik-baik kalimat dibawah, kalau kamu dungunya banyak
sedikit mesti tahu maksudnya, kwkwkwkwk 

Kel 22:2-3

(2) Jika seorang pencuri kedapatan waktu membongkar, dan ia dipukul
orang sehingga mati, maka si pemukul tidak berhutang darah; (3)  tetapi
jika pembunuhan itu terjadi setelah matahari terbit, maka ia berhutang
darah. Pencuri itu harus membayar ganti kerugian sepenuhnya; jika ia
orang yang tak punya, ia harus dijual ganti apa yang dicurinya itu.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Kalo nabi yg melakukannya sih malahan disebut nabi suci lagi
beribadah, spy bisa
> ditiru oleh orang Islam, hehehe
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ndeboost rambitesemak@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 5:48:56 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn
>
>
> Ga di tambah kok judulnya misalnya Bule's Couple Accused Of Using
> 6-Year-Old For Child Porn atau Chritian's Couple Accused Of Using
> 6-Year-Old For Child Porn.
>
> Reed City, MI â€" According to police, 19-year-old Stephen
> Graham-Wright and his girlfriend, 20-year-old Kayla Grillo, have been
> arrested and accused of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a 6-year
old
> girl. Police say the child was taken from her home in Hersey Township
> early Sunday morning, and assaulted at another home in Big Rapids.
> Grillo reportedly swiped the kid that morning and took her to a
> get-together at Wright's home. Police say that at some point during
> the visit, the child was sexually assaulted. And based on the charges,
> one would have to assume the assault was captured on video. During a
> search of Wright's apartment the following day, officials seized
> three computers. Grillo, though related to the child, did not have
> permission to remove the girl from her home and did so without the
> parent's knowledge. She's being held without bond, charged with
> kidnapping. Wright has been charged with kidnapping, second-degree
> criminal sexual conduct, and accosting a child for immoral purposes.
He
> remains behind bars on $1 million bond. Friends of the couple say the
> whole thing has been blown out of proportion. "I know Steve,
> he's the closest thing I have ever had to a brother," says
> Chandra Fuller. "I mean he tells me everything. He's not capable
> of it."
>
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[proletar] Sale: 1 cewek = 1 kambing, hehehe....

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Link di bawah ini ngasih liat gimana cewek dijual oleh bapaknya ditukar dgn 
kambing misalnya

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/04/15/islamic-family-honor-selling-daughters-into-sex-slavery-for-sheep/


Katanya sih itu tradisi di Afghan, tp kalo dipikir, semua yg dilakukan itu 
adalah sesuai dgn islam. Cewek itu halal asal bayar mahar (kambing misalnya), 
lalu si cewek itu bisa digarap sesuka hati sesuai dgn Quran. Kalo si cewek ga 
patuh, maka si cewek bisa digebukin. Cewek dilarang keluar rumah tanpa ijin, ga 
boleh ketemu orang non muhrim. Dan terakhir, si cewek itu bisa dicerai dgn 3 
kata tanpa ada kewajiban ngasih sesuatu ke si cewek.

Dgn kata lain, asal si cewek udah dibeli (pake kambing misalnya), maka si cewek 
itu udah jadi milik yg beli. Ga beda dgn kambing.

Ini semua ada di Quran, dan jg sesuai dgn syariat iblis. 

Jadi gimana Islam ngehargai cewek? Ya paling2 seharga kambing.

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[proletar] Re: met week end...

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik rezameutia
bener.., memang jeratan narkoba dan alkohol masalah dengan dirinya sendiri.  
makanya kebanyakan para pecandu narkoba anak muda.  maklumlah, anak muda kan 
sedang mencari identitas.

masalahnya, kalo udah tua bangka masih juga terjerat narkoba dan alkohol.  
junkie tua itu kan 'one of a kind', artinya nggak banyak junkie tua karena 
biasanya mereka udah sadar atau mereka udah mati.  

apa nggak cape tuh jadi junkie puluhan tahun sampe tua?

hehehe...




 
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>
> hehehe...jeratan narkoba dan alkohol adalah masalah dengan
> dirinya sendiri.. orang laen cuma bisa nonton doank,
> tapi se kali² boleh "plak" ... sapah tau bisa nyembuhin..
>  
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 4/15/11, rezameutia  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> met weekend buat para junkie alkoholik di milis prol ini. 
> 
> sebaiknya para junkie tua dan junkie muda, segeralah pergi ke psikiater atau 
> minta bantuan profesional agar bisa lepas dari jeratan narkoba dan alkohol 
> supaya tidak terus menjadi junkie hingga usia tua bangka. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKoviNMmNE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[proletar] Re: Siapa lagi yang mendukung Tawang?

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
@Tawang pendkung pedolpia?
nT ngerti apa-bagaimananya pedolpia? Ditawari berbagi info malah
bertahan ke pendapat pribadi, dungu.


The website of St. Andrews Presbyterian Church mentions their
pastor's "commitment and love of children." But I'm
pretty sure they had no idea just how creepy that comment would seem
after Rev. Dr. Mark Griggs, 48, was arrested and charged with 112 counts
that include downloading, trading and possessing child pornography. The
pastor got snagged, along with 30 other people, in the latest
investigation by the Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) Task Force.
Prosecutors say that Griggs downloaded, saved and traded images of
children being sexually abused; using his home and church computers to
do so. Grigg's attorney says his client is no child pornographer and
plans on fighting the charges. He claims that the poor pastor was simply
using Limewire. "If you're downloading files from Limewire, you
don't have any control of what's coming into your computer,"
Jay Milano says (*pulls up pants so the increasing levels of bullshit
doesn't get on them*).  But police say that this isn't a case of
an image or two finding their way on Griggs' computers. "He
downloaded and saved images of sexually abused children to his computer
that depicted children being anally, vaginally, and digitally
raped," stated the prosecutor's office in a news release.


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> tawang ngdukung pedophilia, lu pura2 lupa yah.
>
> apa lu ini pedophile makanya lu doyan ngejilat pantat tawang sambil
ngefitnah
> jusfiq?
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ayub yahya ayubyahya@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 12:34:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Siapa lagi yang mendukung Tawang?
>
>
> kelebihan tawang dibanding juspig...
> tawang pro poligamy tapi menentang freesex
>
> sementara juspig freesex-nya kebablasan
> bininya di tawar2-in di milis2 buat dientot sapah aja
>
> bener2 amoral...
> sementara gw sibuk nentang poligamy
> juspig malah sibuk nawar2-in bini buat dientot sapah aja
>
> sialan lo pig...!!
> bini gembrot diajarin diet freesex...
>
> --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote:
>
> Siapa lagi meraung-raung ditinggalkan oleh Tawang yang dungu kayak
babi dan
> biadab yang menyuruh orang memperkosa perempuan Tionghoa?
>
> ayub yahya..
>
> Hasan Basri
>
> Suryana..
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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[proletar] Re: Dominasi TKI Sektor Informal Akan Segera Tergeser

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
"..Kayaknya, pemerintah mau malakin orang Indonesia yg kerja di sektor
formal di luar negeri dgn maksa mereka hrs lewat depnaker unt kerja di
luar negeri. "

Kan pelaksana lapangan harus dapat bagian?

Tetapi semua orang muda di antara perempuan yang belum pernah bersetubuh
dengan laki-laki haruslah kamu biarkan hidup bagimu.

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>
> Kayaknya, pemerintah mau malakin orang Indonesia yg kerja di sektor
formal di
> luar negeri dgn maksa mereka hrs lewat depnaker unt kerja di luar
negeri.
> Berbeda dgn tkw yg ga tau apa2, orang2 terdidik kan bisa cari kerja
sendiri di
> luar negeri tanpa hrs lewat calo.
>
> Pemerintah sekarang ini kan udah jadi penjajah dan perampok rakyatnya
sendiri,
> melebihi VOC.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: sunny ambon@...
> To: Undisclosed-Recipient@...
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 11:34:15 PM
> Subject: [proletar] Dominasi TKI Sektor Informal Akan Segera Tergeser
>
>
> Refleksi : Legal trafficking?  Kalau tak salah ingat dalam salah satu
pidato
> Soekarno pada tahun 1945 atau 1946,  beliau katakan perjuangan
kemerdekaan
> Indonesia adalah untuk membebaskan bangsa kuli dan sistem sistem
exploatasi
> kolonialisme, ternyata sekarang setelah 65 tahun mereka-merdeka tetapi
saja
> masih bangsa kuli. Kalau mau berpikir lebih jauh, lebih mendalam maka
> pertanyaannya apakah harus begini hasilnya?
>
>
http://us.detiknews.com/read/2011/04/15/001302/1617883/10/dominasi-tki-s\
ektor-informal-akan-segera-tergeser
>
>
> Jumat, 15/04/2011 00:13 WIB
>
> Dominasi TKI Sektor Informal Akan Segera Tergeser
> Ari Saputra - detikNews
>
> Ilustrasi
>
> Jakarta - Pemerintah akan menggeser dominasi Tenaga Kerja Indonesia
(TKI) sektor
> informal dengan TKI yang bekerja di sektor formal. Saat ini,
perbandingan antara
> TKI informal dan formal adalah 65:35. Dalam dua tahun kedepan,
komposisi
> tersebut akan diubah menjadi 50:50.
>
> "Sehingga setelah itu dominasi TKI di luar negeri otomatis tergeser
oleh TKI
> sektor formal," kata Kepala Badan Nasional Penempatan dan Perlindungan
Tenaga
> Kerja Indonesia (BNP2TKI) Jumhur Hidayat dalam keterangan pers yang
diterima
> detikcom, Kamis (14/4/2011).
>
> Saat ini, TKI sektor informal terbanyak bekerja sebagai pembantu rumah
tangga
> atau Penata Laksana Rumah Tangga (PLRT). Sementara TKI formal tenaga
kerja yang
> mempunyai kemampuan skil atau semi skil yang  bekerja di perusahaan
resmi
> seperti industri manufaktur, perkebunan, perikanan, konstruksi,
keperawatan,
> perhotelan, rumah sakit, kepelautan, perminyakan, pengelasan, jasa
keuangan dan
> otomotif.
>
> "Apalagi, potensi penyerapan pasar TKI formal di luar negeri sangat
terbuka
> luas, baik di negara kawasan Asia Pasifik, Eropa dan Amerika, bahkan
Timur
> Tengah," jelas Jumhur optimistis.
>
> Berdasarkan data BNP2TKI, sejak Januari-Maret 2011 SISKOTKLN BNP2TKI
telah
> memproses pelayanan dokumen bagi 126.131 TKI, dengan rincian 44.635
TKI Formal
> (35,38 persen) dan 80.338 TKI informal (64,62 persen).
>
> Dari jumlah penempatan 126.131 TKI itu, penempatan TKI ke Arab Saudi
adalah
> terbesar dalam penempatan TKI ke seluruh dunia yaitu 43.195 orang
(34,25
> persen), dengan rincian 8.865 TKI Formal (20,52 persen) dan sisanya
36.606 TKI
> informal (79,58 persen).
>
> Untuk penempatan TKI ke negara-negara Asia Pasifik, didominasi
penempatan TKI ke
> Malaysia 24.775 TKI, disusul Taiwan 17.359 TKI, Hongkong 8.683 TKI,
Singapura
> 8.076 TKI, dan Brunai Darussalam sebanyak 1.581 TKI.
>
> "Kecuali penempatan TKI ke Malaysia yang masih terganjal moratorium,
penempatan
> TKI ke negara-negara Asia Pasifik juga didominasi penempatan TKI
PLRT," katanya.
>
> Selama masa moratorium yang kini masih berlaku atau dari Januari-Maret
2011,
> terdapat penempatan 24.775 TKI ke Malaysia, dengan rincian 24.713 TKI
Formal dan
> 62 TKI informal. Jenis TKI informal yang dikirim ke Malaysia bukan
sebagai PLRT
> tetapi supir atau tukang kebun yang bekerja pada perorangan.
>
> Mengenai proses penerbitan KTKLN bagi para TKI yang berangkat ke luar
negeri
> periode Januari-Maret 2011 itu, kantor Balai Pelayanan Penempatan dan
> Perlindungan Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (BP3TKI) Jakarta sangat
mendominasi yakni
> 74.968 TKI (59,46 persen) dari keseluruhan 126.131 TKI yang berangkat
pada
> periode itu.
>
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>
>
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>
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[proletar] Re: Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert to Islam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Nah kan kalau yg kek gini ditulisnya ditekankan: "Christian Girls" namun
kalau anjing-babi yg mbunuhin rakyat Irak-Afghan-Libya ga ada pakai
Kristen (anjing)?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Inilah bukti Islam itu adalah agama yg benar, benar2 bejad, hehehe
>
>
> Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert to Islam   
April 14,
> 2011
>
> Citing several examples, the Fides news agency reports that hundreds 
of
> Christian girls in Pakistan have been abducted, forced to convert to 
Islam, and
> raped or forced into marriages.
>
> “The Christian girls are the weakest and most vulnerable,
because their
> communities are poor, defenseless and marginalized, therefore easily 
exposed to
> harassment and threats,” said a nun who hides girls who have 
escaped their
> captors. Often they do not even have the courage to  denounce the
violence.”
>
> “The trend is worrying,” she added. “There are
hundreds of cases a year
> registered, and those that come to light are only a fraction.”
>
> Source(s): these links will take you to other sites, in a new window.
>  * Christian girls, victims of forced conversions to Islam, rapes and
forced
> marriages (Fides)
>
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[proletar] Re: Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Hehehe 
Dungu nT. Baca aja gak becus.
Muhammad saw ngumpulnya setelah Aisyah mens,
usianya 9 tahun. Yg ini 6 tahun.
Mosok ga jelas mbaca 6 vs 9?
@dapurmu 'tul dungu. He he he he ...

Coba kamu baca baik-baik kalimat dibawah, kalau kamu dungunya banyak
sedikit mesti tahu maksudnya, kwkwkwkwk 


Kel 22:2-3

(2) Jika seorang pencuri kedapatan waktu membongkar, dan ia dipukul
orang sehingga mati, maka si pemukul tidak berhutang darah; (3)  tetapi
jika pembunuhan itu terjadi setelah matahari terbit, maka ia berhutang
darah. Pencuri itu harus membayar ganti kerugian sepenuhnya; jika ia
orang yang tak punya, ia harus dijual ganti apa yang dicurinya itu.

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> Kalo nabi yg melakukannya sih malahan disebut nabi suci lagi
beribadah, spy bisa
> ditiru oleh orang Islam, hehehe
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ndeboost rambitesemak@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 5:48:56 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn
>
>
> Ga di tambah kok judulnya misalnya Bule's Couple Accused Of Using
> 6-Year-Old For Child Porn atau Chritian's Couple Accused Of Using
> 6-Year-Old For Child Porn.
>
> Reed City, MI â€" According to police, 19-year-old Stephen
> Graham-Wright and his girlfriend, 20-year-old Kayla Grillo, have been
> arrested and accused of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a 6-year
old
> girl. Police say the child was taken from her home in Hersey Township
> early Sunday morning, and assaulted at another home in Big Rapids.
> Grillo reportedly swiped the kid that morning and took her to a
> get-together at Wright's home. Police say that at some point during
> the visit, the child was sexually assaulted. And based on the charges,
> one would have to assume the assault was captured on video. During a
> search of Wright's apartment the following day, officials seized
> three computers. Grillo, though related to the child, did not have
> permission to remove the girl from her home and did so without the
> parent's knowledge. She's being held without bond, charged with
> kidnapping. Wright has been charged with kidnapping, second-degree
> criminal sexual conduct, and accosting a child for immoral purposes.
He
> remains behind bars on $1 million bond. Friends of the couple say the
> whole thing has been blown out of proportion. "I know Steve,
> he's the closest thing I have ever had to a brother," says
> Chandra Fuller. "I mean he tells me everything. He's not capable
> of it."
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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[proletar] Berdosakah Manusia2 ini? (2)

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Adakah Tuhan mau tangannya menyertai sosok pendosa?

Dan semua orang, yang mendengarnya, merenungkannya dan berkata: "Menjadi
apakah anak ini nanti?" Sebab tangan Tuhan menyertai dia.(Luk 1:66)




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[proletar] Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert to Islam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Inilah bukti Islam itu adalah agama yg benar, benar2 bejad, hehehe


Pakistan: hundreds of Christian girls forced to convert to IslamApril 14, 
2011  

Citing several examples, the Fides news agency reports that hundreds  of 
Christian girls in Pakistan have been abducted, forced to convert to  Islam, 
and 
raped or forced into marriages. 

“The Christian girls are the weakest and most vulnerable, because their  
communities are poor, defenseless and marginalized, therefore easily  exposed 
to 
harassment and threats,” said a nun who hides girls who have  escaped their 
captors. Often they do not even have the courage to  denounce the violence.” 

“The trend is worrying,” she added. “There are hundreds of cases a year  
registered, and those that come to light are only a fraction.” 

Source(s): these links will take you to other sites, in a new window.
* Christian girls, victims of forced conversions to Islam, rapes and 
forced 
marriages (Fides) 

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Re: [proletar] Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Kalo nabi yg melakukannya sih malahan disebut nabi suci lagi beribadah, spy 
bisa 
ditiru oleh orang Islam, hehehe






From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 5:48:56 AM
Subject: [proletar] Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn

   
Ga di tambah kok judulnya misalnya Bule's Couple Accused Of Using
6-Year-Old For Child Porn atau Chritian's Couple Accused Of Using
6-Year-Old For Child Porn.

Reed City, MI – According to police, 19-year-old Stephen
Graham-Wright and his girlfriend, 20-year-old Kayla Grillo, have been
arrested and accused of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a 6-year old
girl. Police say the child was taken from her home in Hersey Township
early Sunday morning, and assaulted at another home in Big Rapids.
Grillo reportedly swiped the kid that morning and took her to a
get-together at Wright's home. Police say that at some point during
the visit, the child was sexually assaulted. And based on the charges,
one would have to assume the assault was captured on video. During a
search of Wright's apartment the following day, officials seized
three computers. Grillo, though related to the child, did not have
permission to remove the girl from her home and did so without the
parent's knowledge. She's being held without bond, charged with
kidnapping. Wright has been charged with kidnapping, second-degree
criminal sexual conduct, and accosting a child for immoral purposes. He
remains behind bars on $1 million bond. Friends of the couple say the
whole thing has been blown out of proportion. "I know Steve,
he's the closest thing I have ever had to a brother," says
Chandra Fuller. "I mean he tells me everything. He's not capable
of it."

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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Hehehe ..
Mana bajingan mau ngaku kecuali diantara
sesama bajingan 
Para pastur bejad win-win, saling ngaku dosa
  utk buat dosa.
Hehehehe 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Udah jelas krn si suryana itu doyan jilat pantat bajingan2 tukang
fitnah dsb,
> maka bajingan2 tsb akan bermanis mulut jg dgn si suryana. Tp tiap
saat, para
> bajingan islam ini bisa balik ngebantai, ngerampok dan merkosa si
suryana dan
> keluarganya.
>
> Hehehe apa si suryana ini ga punya anggota keluarga yg pernah
ngalami
> serangan orang Islam? Gua sih punya, ada sanak gua yg udah dikepung
orang Islam
> di dlm gereja, biarpun boleh keluar sambil digebukin tp akhirnya
gerejanya
> dibakar sampe habis.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: PAREWA parewa70@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 8:05:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
>
>
> Wah kalo ada orang dimilis ini yg tdk suka sama Suryana berarti tuh
orang udah
> ngga beres. Walau suryana kristen, tapi dimata orang islam di milis
ini ia
> dinilai terpelajar dan tidak busuk hati tukang fitnah macam nasarani
grepe atau
> nasarani preman psikopat macam item abu. Salut Bung Sur!
>
> --- Pada Jum, 15/4/11, widura a.widura@... menulis:
>
> Dari: widura a.widura@...
> Judul: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 15 April, 2011, 2:41 PM
>
> Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja
nyuruh
> saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Abbas" abas_amin08@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
>
> Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
> kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun
dan cs nya
> >
> > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> >
> > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya,
ga sadis
> > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "bangmossad@" bangmossad@
> > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> >
> > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya,   kalo ajarannya diberikan pada
bangsa2 yg yg
> > bukan yahudi, ya gitu...
> >
> > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: item abu itemabu@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> >
> > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini
bukan
> > fitnah dan atau kriminal?
> >
> > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga?
Jadi
> > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu
tak
> > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost
> > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank.
> >
> > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan?
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu
sbg
> > kriminal?
> > >
> > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu
sesama
> > lu yg
> > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu?
> > >
> > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa
hal
> > si
> > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya
malu
> > drpd
> > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > >
> > > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka  yg merasa dirinya adalah
> > seekor
> > > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu
berfikirpun
> > > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad.
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel
®"
> > > cha6966@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah
> > > kandang dengan ukuran
> > > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun,
> > > > tetap elang itu tidak 

Re: [proletar] Dominasi TKI Sektor Informal Akan Segera Tergeser

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Kayaknya, pemerintah mau malakin orang Indonesia yg kerja di sektor formal di 
luar negeri dgn maksa mereka hrs lewat depnaker unt kerja di luar negeri. 
Berbeda dgn tkw yg ga tau apa2, orang2 terdidik kan bisa cari kerja sendiri di 
luar negeri tanpa hrs lewat calo.

Pemerintah sekarang ini kan udah jadi penjajah dan perampok rakyatnya sendiri, 
melebihi VOC.






From: sunny 
To: undisclosed-recipi...@yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 11:34:15 PM
Subject: [proletar] Dominasi TKI Sektor Informal Akan Segera Tergeser

   
Refleksi : Legal trafficking?  Kalau tak salah ingat dalam salah satu pidato 
Soekarno pada tahun 1945 atau 1946,  beliau katakan perjuangan kemerdekaan 
Indonesia adalah untuk membebaskan bangsa kuli dan sistem sistem exploatasi 
kolonialisme, ternyata sekarang setelah 65 tahun mereka-merdeka tetapi saja 
masih bangsa kuli. Kalau mau berpikir lebih jauh, lebih mendalam maka 
pertanyaannya apakah harus begini hasilnya?

http://us.detiknews.com/read/2011/04/15/001302/1617883/10/dominasi-tki-sektor-informal-akan-segera-tergeser


Jumat, 15/04/2011 00:13 WIB

Dominasi TKI Sektor Informal Akan Segera Tergeser 
Ari Saputra - detikNews

Ilustrasi 

Jakarta - Pemerintah akan menggeser dominasi Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (TKI) 
sektor 
informal dengan TKI yang bekerja di sektor formal. Saat ini, perbandingan 
antara 
TKI informal dan formal adalah 65:35. Dalam dua tahun kedepan, komposisi 
tersebut akan diubah menjadi 50:50.

"Sehingga setelah itu dominasi TKI di luar negeri otomatis tergeser oleh TKI 
sektor formal," kata Kepala Badan Nasional Penempatan dan Perlindungan Tenaga 
Kerja Indonesia (BNP2TKI) Jumhur Hidayat dalam keterangan pers yang diterima 
detikcom, Kamis (14/4/2011).

Saat ini, TKI sektor informal terbanyak bekerja sebagai pembantu rumah tangga 
atau Penata Laksana Rumah Tangga (PLRT). Sementara TKI formal tenaga kerja yang 
mempunyai kemampuan skil atau semi skil yang  bekerja di perusahaan resmi 
seperti industri manufaktur, perkebunan, perikanan, konstruksi, keperawatan, 
perhotelan, rumah sakit, kepelautan, perminyakan, pengelasan, jasa keuangan dan 
otomotif.

"Apalagi, potensi penyerapan pasar TKI formal di luar negeri sangat terbuka 
luas, baik di negara kawasan Asia Pasifik, Eropa dan Amerika, bahkan Timur 
Tengah," jelas Jumhur optimistis.

Berdasarkan data BNP2TKI, sejak Januari-Maret 2011 SISKOTKLN BNP2TKI telah 
memproses pelayanan dokumen bagi 126.131 TKI, dengan rincian 44.635 TKI Formal 
(35,38 persen) dan 80.338 TKI informal (64,62 persen).

Dari jumlah penempatan 126.131 TKI itu, penempatan TKI ke Arab Saudi adalah 
terbesar dalam penempatan TKI ke seluruh dunia yaitu 43.195 orang (34,25 
persen), dengan rincian 8.865 TKI Formal (20,52 persen) dan sisanya 36.606 TKI 
informal (79,58 persen).

Untuk penempatan TKI ke negara-negara Asia Pasifik, didominasi penempatan TKI 
ke 
Malaysia 24.775 TKI, disusul Taiwan 17.359 TKI, Hongkong 8.683 TKI, Singapura 
8.076 TKI, dan Brunai Darussalam sebanyak 1.581 TKI.

"Kecuali penempatan TKI ke Malaysia yang masih terganjal moratorium, penempatan 
TKI ke negara-negara Asia Pasifik juga didominasi penempatan TKI PLRT," katanya.

Selama masa moratorium yang kini masih berlaku atau dari Januari-Maret 2011, 
terdapat penempatan 24.775 TKI ke Malaysia, dengan rincian 24.713 TKI Formal 
dan 
62 TKI informal. Jenis TKI informal yang dikirim ke Malaysia bukan sebagai PLRT 
tetapi supir atau tukang kebun yang bekerja pada perorangan.

Mengenai proses penerbitan KTKLN bagi para TKI yang berangkat ke luar negeri 
periode Januari-Maret 2011 itu, kantor Balai Pelayanan Penempatan dan 
Perlindungan Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (BP3TKI) Jakarta sangat mendominasi yakni 
74.968 TKI (59,46 persen) dari keseluruhan 126.131 TKI yang berangkat pada 
periode itu.

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[proletar] Re: Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang + Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Tapi kok keknya @dapurmu percaya sama yg terang-terangan bilang
pendusta?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Ah, kalo Shianya lebih kuat, Sunni yg akan ditekan. Shia dan Sunni itu
sami
> mawon koq, sama2 bejadnya. Ahmadiyah selama ini belum kliatan
belangnya krn
> selalu jd minoritas, tp krn dasarnya sama, gua ga percaya ke Ahmadiyah
jg.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: sunny ambon@...
> To: Undisclosed-Recipient@...
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:45:30 PM
> Subject: [proletar] Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang + Gereja
Baru di
> Malang Dibongkar Massa
>
>
> Refleksi : Beginilah negara Neo-Mojophatit. Nasrani disikat, Ahmadiyah
> diganyang, sekarang giliran kaum Syiah,  ayo besok lusa siap yang akan
menyusul?
> Masih tidurkah atau ngantukah Anda?
>
>
>
http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/14/06270810/Ditekan.Kaum.Syiah.M\
adura.Siap.Hengkang
>
>
> Keberagaman
>
> Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang
> K17-11 | yuli | Kamis, 14 April 2011 | 06:27 WIB
>
> K17-11 Kegiatan di kompleks Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI)
Tajul
> Muluk, Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang, Madura,
Jawa Timur
> berjalan seperti biasa meski ketuanya ditahan di Mapolres Sampang.
>
>
> T
> SAMPANG, KOMPAS.com - Kaum Islam berhaluan Syiah di Sampang, Madura,
Jawa Timur,
> tetap menjalankan ibadahnya meski ketua mereka, Tajul Muluk, diamankan
polisi
> sejak 4 April 2011 lalu.
>
> ""Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi mempertahankan keyakinan
kami.
> Asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab.
>
> -- Tajul Muluk, pemuka Syiah di Sampang ""
> Mereka berhimpun dalam Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI),
yang
> kegiatannya berpusat di Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten
Sampang.
>
> Menjelang ketuanya diamankan, ribuan orang dari enam desa berencana
menyerang
> kediaman Tajul Muluk yang juga pusat kegiatan IJABI. Kini, kegiatan di
rumah
> Tajul Muluk berjalan seperti biasanya.
>
> Para santrinya tetap menjalankan aktivitasnya seperti sekolah, shalat
berjemaah,
> dan pengajian. Tidak tampak ada ketegangan antara masyarakat sekitar
dan
> penghuni kompleks IJABI.
>
> Tajul Muluk saat dihubungi melalui telepon selulernya, Rabu
(13/4/2011), mengaku
> ingin segera ke rumahnya dan menjalankan kegiatan seperti biasanya.
Dia
> beranggapan, aktivitasnya sebagai penyebar faham Syiah sama sekali
tidak
> bertentangan dengan undang-undang.
>
> Bahkan, ia mengaku kecewa dengan sikap para pemuka agama Sampang yang
sudah
> menganggapnya sesat. Padahal, Syiah adalah salah satu aliran dalam
Islam yang
> berkembang di Indonesia sejak lama.
>
> "Kalau perbedaan jangan dicari-cari, sebab tidak akan pernah ada titik
temunya.
> Tetapi, persamaannya yang perlu kita jaga sehingga keyakinan dalam
beragama bisa
> berjalan seiring bersama," kata Tajul Muluk.
>
> Terkait dengan adanya ultimatum dari Badan Silaturrahim Ulama Madura
(Basra)
> agar dirinya bersama lebih dari 100 jemaahnya segera hengkang dari
Sampang, pria
> yang pernah mengaji di Yayasan Pendidikan Islam (YAPI) Bangil,
Pasuruan, Jawa
> Timur, ini menyatakan tidak keberatan.
>
> Ia hanya mematok syarat agar semua asetnya diberi ganti rugi dan
pengikutnya
> harus ikut bersamanya. "Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi
mempertahankan
> keyakinan kami, asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab," terang
Tajul.
>
> Sementara Alimullah (19), penanggung jawab kegiatan di kompleks IJABI,
> mengatakan siap hengkang bersama gurunya ke mana pun pergi. Bahkan,
> santri-santrinya juga akan dibawa serta.
>
> "Ke mana pun ustaz pergi, kami akan selalu mengikutinya," katanya.
Namun, Tajul
> berharap itu tidak terjadi. Dirinya menginginkan duduk bersama untuk
mencarikan
> solusi yang terbaik.
>
> "Saya masih percaya ada solusi jika semua pihak, termasuk keamanan,
mau membuka
> dialog," terangnya.
>
> Lazim diketahui, meskipun berkembang sejak lama di Indonesia, Syiah
tetap
> minoritas. Tokoh besar Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), almarhum KH Abdurrahman
Wahid (Gus
> Dur) adalah pendekar demokrasi terakhir yang gigih membela hak
keberagamaan
> mereka.
>
>
> ERKAIT:
>
> a.. Desa Kaum Syiah Diserbu, 200 Tertembak
> b.. Ratusan Ribu Syiah Melawan Rezim Sunni
> c.. 3 Bom Mobil Tewaskan 12 Orang di Karbala
> d.. Parade Syiah Digranat, 1 Bayi Tewas
> e.. Bus Peziarah Syiah Dibom, 5 Orang Tewas
> 
>
http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/15/00302669/Gereja.Baru.di.Malan\
g.Dibongkar.Massa
>
>
> Kemajemukan
>
> Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa
> Doddy Wisnu Pribadi | yuli | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 00:30 WIB
> MALANG, KOMPAS.com - Massa yang tidak diketahui identitasnya
membongkar gereja
> yang belum selesai dibangun di Dukuh Ubalan, Desa Pamotan, Kecamatan
Dampit,
> Kabupaten Malang, Jawa Timur.
>
> Peristiwanya terjadi pada Kamis (14/4/2011) sore di desa yang dikenal
sering ada
> konflik masalah perkebunan itu. Desa ini berjarak 38 km di selatan
Kota Malang,
> atau 4 km dari jalur jalan provinsi Malang-Lumajang. Untuk mencap

Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Udah jelas krn si suryana itu doyan jilat pantat bajingan2 tukang fitnah dsb, 
maka bajingan2 tsb akan bermanis mulut jg dgn si suryana. Tp tiap saat, para 
bajingan islam ini bisa balik ngebantai, ngerampok dan merkosa si suryana dan 
keluarganya.

Hehehe apa si suryana ini ga punya anggota keluarga yg pernah ngalami 
serangan orang Islam? Gua sih punya, ada sanak gua yg udah dikepung orang Islam 
di dlm gereja, biarpun boleh keluar sambil digebukin tp akhirnya gerejanya 
dibakar sampe habis.







From: PAREWA 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 8:05:15 PM
Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

   
Wah kalo ada orang dimilis ini yg tdk suka sama Suryana berarti tuh orang udah 
ngga beres. Walau suryana kristen, tapi dimata orang islam di milis ini ia 
dinilai terpelajar dan tidak busuk hati tukang fitnah macam nasarani grepe atau 
nasarani preman psikopat macam item abu. Salut Bung Sur!

--- Pada Jum, 15/4/11, widura  menulis:

Dari: widura 
Judul: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Jumat, 15 April, 2011, 2:41 PM

Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja nyuruh 
saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.  

-Original Message-
From: "Abbas" 
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37 
To: 
Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun dan cs 
> nya 
>
> adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> 
> Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> From: "bangmossad@..." 
> To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> 
>
> Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya,   kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg yg 
> bukan yahudi, ya gitu... 
> 
> Yang ada mereka jadi sadis 
> Sent from my BlackBerry® 
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: item abu  
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48 
> To:  
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> 
> Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ndeboost  
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM 
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> 
> 
> Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan 
> fitnah dan atau kriminal? 
> 
> Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi 
> kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu tak 
> parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost 
> hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank. 
> 
> Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan? 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote: 
> > 
> > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu sbg 
> kriminal? 
> > 
> > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu sesama 
> lu yg 
> > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu? 
> > 
> > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal 
> si 
> > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya malu 
> drpd 
> > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ 
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > 
> > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka  yg merasa dirinya adalah 
> seekor 
> > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu berfikirpun 
> > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad. 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®" 
> > cha6966@ wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah 
> > kandang dengan ukuran 
> > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun, 
> > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang. 
> > > 
> > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh 
> > 3-3,5m. 
> > > 
> > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari, 
> > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam 
> kandang 
> > kecil tanpa penutup. 
> > > 
> > > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi 
> > yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati. 
> > > 
> > > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya, 
> > > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat 
> > dasar

[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Bukannya salah si ular?

OOT
Inspirasi Tuhan dituliskan ular namun Paulus bilangnya iblis.
Yg bener Tuhan apa Paulus?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Itu pasti salah Israel, Amrik dan kafir lainnya, hehehe
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: widura a.widura@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:02:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
>
>
> Bentar lagi keluar aturan setiap yg mau sholat mesti diperiksa dulu...
> -Original Message-
> From: anjingloall anjingloall anjingloall@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:57:23
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
>
> xixixixi sekarang lage padah cyari kambeng congeknyah.
>
> 2011/4/15 ayub yahya ayubyahya@...
>
> >
> >
> > iya bener ada jihad,
> > Salah satu korban identifikasi adalah Kapolres Cirebon Ajun
Komisaris Besar
> > Edi Mardianto.
> >
> >
>
>http://id.berita.yahoo.com/kapolres-jadi-korban-bom-bunuh-diri-di-masji\
d-20110414-234859-650.html
> >l
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 4/15/11, anjingloall anjingloall anjingloall@...
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > t jangan bilang sapah2 yah, tadi ada jihat di cerbon.
> >
> > 2011/4/15 widura a.widura@...
> >
> > > Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2
aja
> > > nyuruh saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "Abbas" abas_amin08@...
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > > Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa
saja;
> > > kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si
tawangalun
> > dan
> > > cs nya
> > > > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> > > >
> > > > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs
nya, ga
> > > sadis
> > > > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "bangmossad@" bangmossad@
> > > > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya, kalo ajarannya diberikan pada
bangsa2 yg
> > > yg
> > > > bukan yahudi, ya gitu...
> > > >
> > > > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis
> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: item abu itemabu@
> > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > > >
> > > > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian
ini bukan
> > > > fitnah dan atau kriminal?
> > > >
> > > > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau
ga? Jadi
> > > > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus
lalu
> > tak
> > > > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah.
nDeboost
> > > > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank.
> > > >
> > > > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal
bukan?
> > > >
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah
itu
> > sbg
> > > > kriminal?
> > > > >
> > > > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal,
begitu
> > sesama
> > > > lu yg
> > > > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede
lu?
> > > > >
> > > > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm
beberapa hal
> > > > si
> > > > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih
punya
> > malu
> > > > drpd
> > > > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM
> > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka yg merasa dirinya
adalah
> > > > seekor
> > > > > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu
> > berfikirpun
> > > > > ada yg membatasinya

[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Hehehehe 
Si @dapurmu keknya di dapur kurang puas ngejilatin semprong makanya
disini dilampiaskannya
Hehehehe 
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> hehehe kalo si suryana ini anti bajingan, tentunya si habe akan
ngoceh si
> suryana itu cina pontianak atau chokin singkawang.
>
>
> tp berhubung si suryana ini ga anti bajingan yg mau jilat pantatnya,
si habe
> akan dengan mesranya saling jilat pantat dgn suryana, ga ada sebutan
cina, cina
> pontianak dsb.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:58:51 PM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
>
>
>
> Otak babi.
>
> Otak binatang.
>
> Sedeng.
>
> suryana itu orang katolik yang udah jadi nista penjilat pantat orang
Islam
> salafy hingga jadi pendukung Tawang yang menyuruh orang memperkosa
perempuan
> Tionghoa, artinya termasuk istri atau anak-anak Suryana itu.
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote:
> >
> > kalo bener kang sur katolik.. brarti omongan gw tepat,
> > lo anjing kampung yg gak bisa bedain mana tai.. mana kue
> > asal gonggong tiap ada orang lewat...
> > artinya, ngomong asal mangap.. tanpa dipikir
> >
> > gw bukan katolik tapi tau banget orang katolik,
> > kalo orang katholik udah maki² orang itu tandanya
> > sedang maki² orang amoral
> >
> > nah.. gw mo liat postingan lo berikutnya,
> > asal mangap ato pakai otak...
> > milis ini punya piaraan tukang maki² yg bisa buat gampar²-an
> > ato di suruh² jadi tukang loper koran...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya,
ga sadis
> > > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > 
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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
".. milis ini punya piaraan tukang maki2 yg bisa
buat gampar2-an"

Kwkwkwkwk .
@buaya @buaya

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
>
> kalo bener kang sur katolik.. brarti omongan gw tepat,
> lo anjing kampung yg gak bisa bedain mana tai.. mana kue
> asal gonggong tiap ada orang lewat...
> artinya, ngomong asal mangap.. tanpa dipikir
>
> gw bukan katolik tapi tau banget orang katolik,
> kalo orang katholik udah maki² orang itu tandanya
> sedang maki² orang amoral
>
> nah.. gw mo liat postingan lo berikutnya,
> asal mangap ato pakai otak...
> milis ini punya piaraan tukang maki² yg bisa buat gampar²-an
> ato di suruh² jadi tukang loper koran...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya,
ga sadis
> > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [proletar] si super debil, Vittorio Arrigoni

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Ini kan contoh gimana orang Islam itu lebih rendah dr anjing, anjing ga akan 
ngegigit orang yg ngasih makan ke si anjing, tp orang Islam tetap akan 
ngebantai 
orang yg ngebela dan ngasih bantuan ke mereka, ga ada terima kasih sama sekali 
ke kafir2 tsb.






From: kim 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 7:10:32 PM
Subject: [proletar] si super debil, Vittorio Arrigoni

   
Banyak didunia ini orang-orang ber-kategor rada debil, super debil dan ultra 
debil. Ambil contoh orang satu ini, kelahiran Italia, Vittorio Arrigoni. 
Aktifis 
berat dan pembela kasus Palestina.

Saking cintanya arep, dia ditato dibawah kelek, dengan aksara arep. Semasa
hidupnya buka congor lebar-lebar buat mengutuk Israel, dan bungkam jika
arep naroh bom dibawah jok bis kota di Israel.

Kemarin hari itu si Vittorio Arrigoni dicacag oleh golongan Salafist pro
Al Qaeda. Pasalnya Salafist lagi barter tahanan sama Hammas heu heu
Salfist bilang sama Hammas, kalo gak kluarin sanderaan anggota Salafist
si Vittorio Arrigoni ini yg jadi maenan. Ya dicacag  heu heu, wah edhan seh !

Rupanya Hammas lagi duel cpngor sama Salafis. Ini menandakan cecunguk
Islamist itu lagi perang internal. Seperti saya bilang, Islam itu babi, babi
belula !

Okeh ?


 

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Re: [proletar] Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang + Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Ah, kalo Shianya lebih kuat, Sunni yg akan ditekan. Shia dan Sunni itu sami 
mawon koq, sama2 bejadnya. Ahmadiyah selama ini belum kliatan belangnya krn 
selalu jd minoritas, tp krn dasarnya sama, gua ga percaya ke Ahmadiyah jg.






From: sunny 
To: undisclosed-recipi...@yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:45:30 PM
Subject: [proletar] Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang + Gereja Baru di 
Malang Dibongkar Massa

   
Refleksi : Beginilah negara Neo-Mojophatit. Nasrani disikat, Ahmadiyah 
diganyang, sekarang giliran kaum Syiah,  ayo besok lusa siap yang akan 
menyusul? 
Masih tidurkah atau ngantukah Anda? 


http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/14/06270810/Ditekan.Kaum.Syiah.Madura.Siap.Hengkang


Keberagaman

Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang
K17-11 | yuli | Kamis, 14 April 2011 | 06:27 WIB 

K17-11 Kegiatan di kompleks Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI) Tajul 
Muluk, Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang, Madura, Jawa 
Timur 
berjalan seperti biasa meski ketuanya ditahan di Mapolres Sampang. 


T
SAMPANG, KOMPAS.com - Kaum Islam berhaluan Syiah di Sampang, Madura, Jawa 
Timur, 
tetap menjalankan ibadahnya meski ketua mereka, Tajul Muluk, diamankan polisi 
sejak 4 April 2011 lalu.

""Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi mempertahankan keyakinan kami. 
Asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab. 

-- Tajul Muluk, pemuka Syiah di Sampang ""
Mereka berhimpun dalam Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI), yang 
kegiatannya berpusat di Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang.

Menjelang ketuanya diamankan, ribuan orang dari enam desa berencana menyerang 
kediaman Tajul Muluk yang juga pusat kegiatan IJABI. Kini, kegiatan di rumah 
Tajul Muluk berjalan seperti biasanya.

Para santrinya tetap menjalankan aktivitasnya seperti sekolah, shalat 
berjemaah, 
dan pengajian. Tidak tampak ada ketegangan antara masyarakat sekitar dan 
penghuni kompleks IJABI.

Tajul Muluk saat dihubungi melalui telepon selulernya, Rabu (13/4/2011), 
mengaku 
ingin segera ke rumahnya dan menjalankan kegiatan seperti biasanya. Dia 
beranggapan, aktivitasnya sebagai penyebar faham Syiah sama sekali tidak 
bertentangan dengan undang-undang.

Bahkan, ia mengaku kecewa dengan sikap para pemuka agama Sampang yang sudah 
menganggapnya sesat. Padahal, Syiah adalah salah satu aliran dalam Islam yang 
berkembang di Indonesia sejak lama.

"Kalau perbedaan jangan dicari-cari, sebab tidak akan pernah ada titik temunya. 
Tetapi, persamaannya yang perlu kita jaga sehingga keyakinan dalam beragama 
bisa 
berjalan seiring bersama," kata Tajul Muluk.

Terkait dengan adanya ultimatum dari Badan Silaturrahim Ulama Madura (Basra) 
agar dirinya bersama lebih dari 100 jemaahnya segera hengkang dari Sampang, 
pria 
yang pernah mengaji di Yayasan Pendidikan Islam (YAPI) Bangil, Pasuruan, Jawa 
Timur, ini menyatakan tidak keberatan.

Ia hanya mematok syarat agar semua asetnya diberi ganti rugi dan pengikutnya 
harus ikut bersamanya. "Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi mempertahankan 
keyakinan kami, asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab," terang Tajul.

Sementara Alimullah (19), penanggung jawab kegiatan di kompleks IJABI, 
mengatakan siap hengkang bersama gurunya ke mana pun pergi. Bahkan, 
santri-santrinya juga akan dibawa serta.

"Ke mana pun ustaz pergi, kami akan selalu mengikutinya," katanya. Namun, Tajul 
berharap itu tidak terjadi. Dirinya menginginkan duduk bersama untuk mencarikan 
solusi yang terbaik.

"Saya masih percaya ada solusi jika semua pihak, termasuk keamanan, mau membuka 
dialog," terangnya.

Lazim diketahui, meskipun berkembang sejak lama di Indonesia, Syiah tetap 
minoritas. Tokoh besar Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), almarhum KH Abdurrahman Wahid (Gus 
Dur) adalah pendekar demokrasi terakhir yang gigih membela hak keberagamaan 
mereka. 


ERKAIT:

a.. Desa Kaum Syiah Diserbu, 200 Tertembak
b.. Ratusan Ribu Syiah Melawan Rezim Sunni
c.. 3 Bom Mobil Tewaskan 12 Orang di Karbala
d.. Parade Syiah Digranat, 1 Bayi Tewas
e.. Bus Peziarah Syiah Dibom, 5 Orang Tewas

http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/15/00302669/Gereja.Baru.di.Malang.Dibongkar.Massa


Kemajemukan

Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa
Doddy Wisnu Pribadi | yuli | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 00:30 WIB 
MALANG, KOMPAS.com - Massa yang tidak diketahui identitasnya membongkar gereja 
yang belum selesai dibangun di Dukuh Ubalan, Desa Pamotan, Kecamatan Dampit, 
Kabupaten Malang, Jawa Timur.

Peristiwanya terjadi pada Kamis (14/4/2011) sore di desa yang dikenal sering 
ada 
konflik masalah perkebunan itu. Desa ini berjarak 38 km di selatan Kota Malang, 
atau 4 km dari jalur jalan provinsi Malang-Lumajang. Untuk mencapai lokasi itu, 
mesti melintasi persawahan dan areal perkebunan karena berada di pedesaan.

Saat diamati pada pukul 22.00, bangunan baru gereja itu masih utuh. Hanya saja, 
sebagian dinding sudah berlubang, atau terbongkar, menurut penuturan orang yang 
menjadi bagian ker

Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
Itu pasti salah Israel, Amrik dan kafir lainnya, hehehe






From: widura 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:02:48 PM
Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

   
Bentar lagi keluar aturan setiap yg mau sholat mesti diperiksa dulu... 
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From: anjingloall anjingloall  
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:57:23 
To:  
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Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 

xixixixi sekarang lage padah cyari kambeng congeknyah. 

2011/4/15 ayub yahya  

> 
> 
> iya bener ada jihad, 
> Salah satu korban identifikasi adalah Kapolres Cirebon Ajun Komisaris Besar 
> Edi Mardianto. 
> 
> 
>http://id.berita.yahoo.com/kapolres-jadi-korban-bom-bunuh-diri-di-masjid-20110414-234859-650.html
>l 
>
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 4/15/11, anjingloall anjingloall  
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> t jangan bilang sapah2 yah, tadi ada jihat di cerbon. 
> 
> 2011/4/15 widura  
> 
> > Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja 
> > nyuruh saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya. 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: "Abbas"  
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37 
> > To:  
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja; 
> > kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun 
> dan 
> > cs nya 
> > > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain. 
> > > 
> > > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga 
> > sadis 
> > > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: "bangmossad@..."  
> > > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM 
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya, kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg 
> > yg 
> > > bukan yahudi, ya gitu... 
> > > 
> > > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis 
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry® 
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message- 
> > > From: item abu  
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48 
> > > To:  
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > > 
> > > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: ndeboost  
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM 
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan 
> > > fitnah dan atau kriminal? 
> > > 
> > > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi 
> > > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu 
> tak 
> > > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost 
> > > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank. 
> > > 
> > > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan? 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu 
> sbg 
> > > kriminal? 
> > > > 
> > > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu 
> sesama 
> > > lu yg 
> > > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu? 
> > > > 
> > > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal 
> > > si 
> > > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya 
> malu 
> > > drpd 
> > > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe... 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ 
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM 
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka yg merasa dirinya adalah 
> > > seekor 
> > > > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu 
> berfikirpun 
> > > > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad. 
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®" 
> > > > cha6966@ wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tahukah anda jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah 
> > > > kandang dengan ukuran 
> > > > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun, 
> > > > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari 
> sejauh 
> > > > 3-3,5m. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari, 
> > > > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & 

Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
hehehe kalo si suryana ini anti bajingan, tentunya si habe akan ngoceh si 
suryana itu cina pontianak atau chokin singkawang. 


tp berhubung si suryana ini ga anti bajingan yg mau jilat pantatnya, si habe 
akan dengan mesranya saling jilat pantat dgn suryana, ga ada sebutan cina, cina 
pontianak dsb.







From: Jusfiq 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:58:51 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

   

Otak babi.

Otak binatang.

Sedeng.

suryana itu orang katolik yang udah jadi nista penjilat pantat orang Islam 
salafy hingga jadi pendukung Tawang yang menyuruh orang memperkosa perempuan 
Tionghoa, artinya termasuk istri atau anak-anak Suryana itu.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
>
> kalo bener kang sur katolik.. brarti omongan gw tepat,
> lo anjing kampung yg gak bisa bedain mana tai.. mana kue
> asal gonggong tiap ada orang lewat...
> artinya, ngomong asal mangap.. tanpa dipikir
>  
> gw bukan katolik tapi tau banget orang katolik,
> kalo orang katholik udah maki² orang itu tandanya
> sedang maki² orang amoral
>  
> nah.. gw mo liat postingan lo berikutnya,
> asal mangap ato pakai otak...
> milis ini punya piaraan tukang maki² yg bisa buat gampar²-an
> ato di suruh² jadi tukang loper koran...
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>  
>  
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>  
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>  
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
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Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
hehehe apanya yg amoral di gua? gua anti pedophilia sedangkan si tawang pro 
pedophilia misalnya. gua anti ngefitnah sedangkan si tawang dan lu sendiri 
adalah tukang fitnah. kenapa si suryana saling jilat pantat dgn si tawang?

apa lu anggap kalo gua bilang bajingan tukang fitnah kayak lu sbg bajingan 
adalah amoral? 









From: ayub yahya 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:30:04 PM
Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

   
kalo bener kang sur katolik.. brarti omongan gw tepat,
lo anjing kampung yg gak bisa bedain mana tai.. mana kue
asal gonggong tiap ada orang lewat...
artinya, ngomong asal mangap.. tanpa dipikir
 
gw bukan katolik tapi tau banget orang katolik,
kalo orang katholik udah maki² orang itu tandanya
sedang maki² orang amoral
 
nah.. gw mo liat postingan lo berikutnya,
asal mangap ato pakai otak...
milis ini punya piaraan tukang maki² yg bisa buat gampar²-an
ato di suruh² jadi tukang loper koran...
 
 
 

 
 

 
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
 

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[proletar] Re: welkam ( Uriah Heep )

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
KATEBE, misalnya tuhan ngajarin ngerampok keledai atau kakek moyangnya
yg hobi ngecer lendir menantunya gitu?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> udah tentu, kalo orang islam ngerampok, merkosa, ngebantai dll, itu
namanya dlm
> rangka perang jihad di jalan auloh, kalo kafir yg melakukan hal yg
sama, itu
> namanya ngerampok.
>
> kan jelas tuh, ga ada maling ngaku maling, kecuali kalo si maling udah
ketangkep
> basah, digebukin dan dipaksa ngaku/
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Abbas abas_amin08@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 1:02:23 PM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: welkam ( Uriah Heep )
>
>
> telah dibilangin perang dengan ngerampok berbeda
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Hihihi nabi ngerampok aja kata orang islam ga ngerampok padahal
jelas2
> > ngerampas harta orang pake senjata sambil ngebunuh dan merkosa cewek
tangkepan.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nabi jadi pedophile dibilang bukan pedophile, padahal jelas2 anak
ingusan 9 thn
> >
> > yg diembat.
> >
> > Si nabi dgn sendirinya ngaku bhw dia bukan perampok dan bukan
pedophile, tp
> > rosul. Dungunya, orang Islam jg ngikutin sunnah nabi dgn ngibul
bilang rampok
> > pedophile itu sbg nabi.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:00:12 AM
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: welkam ( Uriah Heep )
> >
> >
> > Seperti si pendusta yg namanya Paulus gitu?
> > Mana dia mau ngaku yg ajarannya ga sesuai yg disampaikan Yesus a.s.
> > "Susu", kata Paulus.
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ga ada koq maling ngaku maling.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Led Zeppelin led.zeppelin31@
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 6:43:51 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] welkam ( Uriah Heep )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Badut yang satu Ini jelas2 tidak fokus dengan apa diomongkan
> > > ditopik ini jelas2 tentang nonton pertunjukan MUSIK ,tapi anda sok
> > kritis
> > > pakai membawa instasi pajak dimana saya bekerja saat itu
> > > bicara sembarangan tentang tugas seorang juru tagih yang ter-didik
> > didiklat
> > > pajak selama 2 bulan di majalengka/kuningan untuk mengisi kas
negara
> > > tiap2 hari dari jendela ruang belajar/kamar tidur terlihat gunung
> > ceremai
> > > me-mangil2
> > > dari dekat,ahaaa-rupanya.jawa barat lebih cantik 100x dari
> > swiss&austria
> > >
> > > Anda sok kritis dengan tuduhan murahan seperti itu tampa bukti
jelas
> > > anda sungguh badut yang tidak lucu...tampa topeng
> > > saya bukan koruptor,apalagi bandit seperti gayus acuan anda itu
> > > bekerja dikantor dirjen pajak memang sungguh aneh..di-mana2
> > uang,di-lorong2
> > > diatas meja,diatas lantai,di-laci2,di-lemari2,di-kantong2 kain
belacu
> > > di kreta dorong.di-mana2 uang semua untuk kas negara
> > > uang ini angkanya terhitung pasti,hilang 1 rupiah karyawan tidak
bisa
> > pulang
> > > kerumah,kebanyakan untuk hitung&menjumlah kan uang adalah orang
> > perempuan
> > >
> > > Kerja di dirjen pajak masih jadi maling?
> > > tentu tidak mungkin;mencuri dari dalam sebab semuanya cocok
hitungan
> > > jumbelah uang nya jelas,anda bisa jadi maling disini dengan
bermain
> > mata
> > > dengan wajib pajak/objek pajak,tak perlu di uraikan nggak beda
dengan
> > > permainan ular tangga/ludo/congklak tergantung manusia nya
> > > kualitas manusia sangat berperan penting untuk seorang juru tagih
> > > saat itu hampir semua uang  tagihan pajak,memang ditagih langsung
> > > kekantor atau kerumah yang bersangkutan dengan perjanjian tertentu
> > > sangat jarang wajib pajak  membawa SKP/SPT datang menemui petugas
> > pajak
> > > saya lebih suka cek/giro daripada uang tunaiberat bawanya
> > >
> > > Doeloe bekerja di dirjen pajak semakin anda sederhana&jujur
semakin
> > kagum
> > > pula atasan anda,apalgi buat seorang yang bekerja dinas luar
> > > dalam artian 1 jam dipagi hari 1 jam disore datang dan pergi
sesuka
> > hati
> > > disini kepercayaan sangat2-sangat2 modal utama,selain kecapakan
yang
> > laini
> > > pantas dengan gaji 5x tiap bulan...
> > >
> > > -Uang transport/makan setara dengan 50  liter bensin tiap2 minggu.
> > >
> > > -Uang perangsang diambil o,o% dari hasil tagihan bekerja tiap 3
minggu
> > > angkanya selalu ber-ubah2
> > >
> > > -Tunjangan jabatan  dibayar tiap2 bulan sesuai kepangkatan
> > >
> > > -Tunjangan khusus dibayar tiap2 minggu ketiga sesuai
> > kecakapan..etika dalam
> > > bekerja
> > >
> > > -Gajih pokok+uang pengganti 20 liter beras tiap akhir bulan
> > >
> > > -Tiap 6 bulan sekali pergi ke tamasya 3 hari keluar kota,tinggal
di
> > wisma/villa
> > >
> > > bawa kelurga/handai tolan naik bus hiba,karena tidak berkeluarga
> > >
> > > saya bawa anak2 tetangga  turut serta,biasanya pas waktu mereka
> > liburan
> > >
> > > Oooh saat itu kantong jaket

[proletar] Couple Accused Of Using 6-Year-Old For Child Porn

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Ga di tambah kok judulnya misalnya Bule's Couple Accused Of Using
6-Year-Old For Child Porn atau Chritian's Couple Accused Of Using
6-Year-Old For Child Porn.

Reed City, MI – According to police, 19-year-old Stephen
Graham-Wright and his girlfriend, 20-year-old Kayla Grillo, have been
arrested and accused of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a 6-year old
girl. Police say the child was taken from her home in Hersey Township
early Sunday morning, and assaulted at another home in Big Rapids.
Grillo reportedly swiped the kid that morning and took her to a
get-together at Wright's home. Police say that at some point during
the visit, the child was sexually assaulted. And based on the charges,
one would have to assume the assault was captured on video. During a
search of Wright's apartment the following day, officials seized
three computers. Grillo, though related to the child, did not have
permission to remove the girl from her home and did so without the
parent's knowledge. She's being held without bond, charged with
kidnapping. Wright has been charged with kidnapping, second-degree
criminal sexual conduct, and accosting a child for immoral purposes. He
remains behind bars on $1 million bond. Friends of the couple say the
whole thing has been blown out of proportion. "I know Steve,
he's the closest thing I have ever had to a brother," says
Chandra Fuller. "I mean he tells me everything. He's not capable
of it."




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Re: [proletar] Re: welkam ( Uriah Heep )

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
udah tentu, kalo orang islam ngerampok, merkosa, ngebantai dll, itu namanya dlm 
rangka perang jihad di jalan auloh, kalo kafir yg melakukan hal yg sama, itu 
namanya ngerampok.

kan jelas tuh, ga ada maling ngaku maling, kecuali kalo si maling udah 
ketangkep 
basah, digebukin dan dipaksa ngaku/






From: Abbas 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 1:02:23 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: welkam ( Uriah Heep )

   
telah dibilangin perang dengan ngerampok berbeda

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hihihi nabi ngerampok aja kata orang islam ga ngerampok padahal jelas2 
> ngerampas harta orang pake senjata sambil ngebunuh dan merkosa cewek 
> tangkepan. 
>
> 
> 
> Nabi jadi pedophile dibilang bukan pedophile, padahal jelas2 anak ingusan 9 
> thn 
>
> yg diembat.
> 
> Si nabi dgn sendirinya ngaku bhw dia bukan perampok dan bukan pedophile, tp 
> rosul. Dungunya, orang Islam jg ngikutin sunnah nabi dgn ngibul bilang rampok 
> pedophile itu sbg nabi.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ndeboost 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:00:12 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: welkam ( Uriah Heep )
> 
> 
> Seperti si pendusta yg namanya Paulus gitu?
> Mana dia mau ngaku yg ajarannya ga sesuai yg disampaikan Yesus a.s.
> "Susu", kata Paulus.
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Ga ada koq maling ngaku maling.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Led Zeppelin led.zeppelin31@
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 6:43:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] welkam ( Uriah Heep )
> >
> >
> >
> > Badut yang satu Ini jelas2 tidak fokus dengan apa diomongkan
> > ditopik ini jelas2 tentang nonton pertunjukan MUSIK ,tapi anda sok
> kritis
> > pakai membawa instasi pajak dimana saya bekerja saat itu
> > bicara sembarangan tentang tugas seorang juru tagih yang ter-didik
> didiklat
> > pajak selama 2 bulan di majalengka/kuningan untuk mengisi kas negara
> > tiap2 hari dari jendela ruang belajar/kamar tidur terlihat gunung
> ceremai
> > me-mangil2
> > dari dekat,ahaaa-rupanya.jawa barat lebih cantik 100x dari
> swiss&austria
> >
> > Anda sok kritis dengan tuduhan murahan seperti itu tampa bukti jelas
> > anda sungguh badut yang tidak lucu...tampa topeng
> > saya bukan koruptor,apalagi bandit seperti gayus acuan anda itu
> > bekerja dikantor dirjen pajak memang sungguh aneh..di-mana2
> uang,di-lorong2
> > diatas meja,diatas lantai,di-laci2,di-lemari2,di-kantong2 kain belacu
> > di kreta dorong.di-mana2 uang semua untuk kas negara
> > uang ini angkanya terhitung pasti,hilang 1 rupiah karyawan tidak bisa
> pulang
> > kerumah,kebanyakan untuk hitung&menjumlah kan uang adalah orang
> perempuan
> >
> > Kerja di dirjen pajak masih jadi maling?
> > tentu tidak mungkin;mencuri dari dalam sebab semuanya cocok hitungan
> > jumbelah uang nya jelas,anda bisa jadi maling disini dengan bermain
> mata
> > dengan wajib pajak/objek pajak,tak perlu di uraikan nggak beda dengan
> > permainan ular tangga/ludo/congklak tergantung manusia nya
> > kualitas manusia sangat berperan penting untuk seorang juru tagih
> > saat itu hampir semua uang  tagihan pajak,memang ditagih langsung
> > kekantor atau kerumah yang bersangkutan dengan perjanjian tertentu
> > sangat jarang wajib pajak  membawa SKP/SPT datang menemui petugas
> pajak
> > saya lebih suka cek/giro daripada uang tunaiberat bawanya
> >
> > Doeloe bekerja di dirjen pajak semakin anda sederhana&jujur semakin
> kagum
> > pula atasan anda,apalgi buat seorang yang bekerja dinas luar
> > dalam artian 1 jam dipagi hari 1 jam disore datang dan pergi sesuka
> hati
> > disini kepercayaan sangat2-sangat2 modal utama,selain kecapakan yang
> laini
> > pantas dengan gaji 5x tiap bulan...
> >
> > -Uang transport/makan setara dengan 50  liter bensin tiap2 minggu.
> >
> > -Uang perangsang diambil o,o% dari hasil tagihan bekerja tiap 3 minggu
> > angkanya selalu ber-ubah2
> >
> > -Tunjangan jabatan  dibayar tiap2 bulan sesuai kepangkatan
> >
> > -Tunjangan khusus dibayar tiap2 minggu ketiga sesuai
> kecakapan..etika dalam
> > bekerja
> >
> > -Gajih pokok+uang pengganti 20 liter beras tiap akhir bulan
> >
> > -Tiap 6 bulan sekali pergi ke tamasya 3 hari keluar kota,tinggal di
> wisma/villa
> >
> > bawa kelurga/handai tolan naik bus hiba,karena tidak berkeluarga
> >
> > saya bawa anak2 tetangga  turut serta,biasanya pas waktu mereka
> liburan
> >
> > Oooh saat itu kantong jaket,kantong baju kiri kanan,kantong celana
> depan
> > belakang
> > isi nya duit semua,pembatu ibu saya suka jemur itu uang basah
> > diatas kukusan nasi/belakang kulkas .karena lupa selagi rendam
> cucian
> >
> > kalau sampai jadi koruptor tentu dikeluarkan dan di proses oleh polisi
> > saat itu tidak ada orang korupsi gila2an...komplek/rumah saja dikasih
> > saya satu2 nya anak muda kebayoran-baru yang jadi karyawan kanto

Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
hehehe... si suryana itu bisa bersahabat dgn tukang fitnah pendukung pedophilia 
atau bajingan keparat lainnya asal mau ngejilat pantat suryana.

gua sih emang ga bisa dan gua akan musuhin semua bajingan keparat tanpa 
kecuali, 
ga peduli kalo misalnya si bajingan keparat tsb ngejilat pantat gua. 







From: Abbas 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 12:50:37 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

   
Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun dan cs 
> nya 
>
> adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> 
> Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "bangmossad@..." 
> To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> 
> 
> Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya,   kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg yg 
> bukan yahudi, ya gitu... 
> 
> Yang ada mereka jadi sadis 
> Sent from my BlackBerry® 
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: item abu  
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48 
> To:  
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> 
> Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> From: ndeboost  
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM 
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> 
> 
> Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan 
> fitnah dan atau kriminal? 
> 
> Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi 
> kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu tak 
> parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost 
> hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank. 
> 
> Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan? 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote: 
> > 
> > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu sbg 
> kriminal? 
> > 
> > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu sesama 
> lu yg 
> > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu? 
> > 
> > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal 
> si 
> > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya malu 
> drpd 
> > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ 
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > 
> > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka  yg merasa dirinya adalah 
> seekor 
> > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu berfikirpun 
> > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad. 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®" 
> > cha6966@ wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah 
> > kandang dengan ukuran 
> > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun, 
> > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang. 
> > > 
> > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh 
> > 3-3,5m. 
> > > 
> > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari, 
> > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam 
> kandang 
> > kecil tanpa penutup. 
> > > 
> > > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi 
> > yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati. 
> > > 
> > > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya, 
> > > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat 
> > dasarnya. 
> > > 
> > > Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri 
> > sendiri. 
> > > 
> > > Nah... 
> > > 
> > > Ternyata banyak dari kita, 
> > > juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah, 
> fokus 
> > terus dengan masalah, mengeluh terus sampai akhirnya frustasi sendiri. 
> > > 
> > > Sadarilah bahwa jawaban dari masalah kita adalah selalu DIATAS, 
> yaitu 
> > > 
> > > TUHAN 
> > > 
> > > Menengadahlah, 
> > > Ucapkanlah doa, & lepas landaslah dalam BERTINDAK mencari solusi. 
> > > 
> > > LAKUKAN & LAKUKAN LAGI & TERUS BERJUANG !!! 
> > > 
> > > Keep fight !!! 
> > > 
> > > Keep Your Dreams !!! 
> > > 
> > > Be a Winner !!! 
> > > 
> > > You are the CHAMPION 
> > > 
> > > God Bless U all my friends.. 
> > > 
> > > Selamat Malam... 
> > > 
> > > Good Night. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ch@​​™ 
> > > pin:21EF6D92 
> > > Charles Asiku 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
>

Re: [proletar] Siapa lagi yang mendukung Tawang?

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik item abu
tawang ngdukung pedophilia, lu pura2 lupa yah.

apa lu ini pedophile makanya lu doyan ngejilat pantat tawang sambil ngefitnah 
jusfiq?






From: ayub yahya 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 12:34:28 PM
Subject: Re: [proletar] Siapa lagi yang mendukung Tawang?

   
kelebihan tawang dibanding juspig...
tawang pro poligamy tapi menentang freesex
 
sementara juspig freesex-nya kebablasan
bininya di tawar2-in di milis2 buat dientot sapah aja
 
bener2 amoral...
sementara gw sibuk nentang poligamy
juspig malah sibuk nawar2-in bini buat dientot sapah aja
 
sialan lo pig...!!
bini gembrot diajarin diet freesex...

--- On Thu, 4/14/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

Siapa lagi meraung-raung ditinggalkan oleh Tawang yang dungu kayak babi dan 
biadab yang menyuruh orang memperkosa perempuan Tionghoa?

ayub yahya..

Hasan Basri

Suryana..

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[proletar] Re: Allies say Libya campaign on until Gaddafi goes

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
"..Allies say Libya campaign on until Gaddafi goes.."
Campaign? Pakai bom? mBunuhin?
Kwkwkwkwk 

Si @ambon kriting, eh, bisa saja
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
> http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=1&id=24877
>
>
> Allies say Libya campaign on until Gaddafi goes
>
> 15/04/2011
>
>
>   In this image made from TV , Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi is
seen in Tripoli on Thursday April 14 2011. (AP)
>
>   A rebel fighter mans an anti-aircraft gun, next to an opposition
flag, in the desert on the outskirts of Ajdabiya, Libya Thursday, April
14, 2011. (AP)
>
>   A Libyan anti-Gadhafi protester attends a demonstration in front
of the Arab league headquarters in Cairo, Egypt, Thursday, April 14,
2011. (AP)
> TRIPOLI, (Reuters) - Leaders of Britain, France and the United States
vowed on Friday to keep up their military campaign in Libya until
Muammar Gaddafi leaves power, and rebels said his forces pounded the
city of Misrata with missiles.
> In a strongly worded, jointly written article published in newspapers
on both sides of the Atlantic, British Prime Minister David Cameron,
French President Nicolas Sarkozy and U.S. President Barack Obama said
leaving Gaddafi in power would be an "unconscionable betrayal" of the
Libyan people.
>
> "It is unthinkable that someone who has tried to massacre his own
people can play a part in their future government," the leaders wrote.
>
> "So long as Gaddafi is in power, NATO and its coalition partners must
maintain their operations so that civilians remain protected and the
pressure on the regime builds," they said.
>
> "Then a genuine transition from dictatorship to an inclusive
constitutional process can really begin, led by a new generation of
leaders. For that transition to succeed, Colonel Gaddafi must go, and go
for good."
>
> France and Britain want to extend air strikes to the logistics and
decision-making centres of Gaddafi's army, rather than start arming
Libyan rebels, French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet said.
>
> Asked if it was time to send weapons to the rebels, Longuet said:
"This is the reason France and Britain want to show our determination,
including with strikes on military decision centres in Libya or on
logistics depots which today are being spared."
>
> Reaction to the letter from the Gaddafi camp was swift in coming as
the Libyan leader's daughter Aisha told a rally in Tripoli, at a family
compound bombed by the Americans in 1986, that demanding her father's
departure was an insult to the Libyan people.
>
> "Talk about Gaddafi stepping down is an insult to all Libyans because
Gaddafi is not in Libya, but in the hearts of all Libyans," she said in
a speech broadcast live on Libyan television to mark the 25th
anniversary of American strikes on the huge complex, which includes
military barracks.
>
> The article by the Western allies appeared at a time when diplomatic
efforts have failed to paper over divisions between NATO allies about
how intensively they should prosecute the three-week-old air war, and
the situation on the ground has shown signs of stalemate.
>
> Washington, which led the campaign in its first week, has since turned
over command to NATO and taken a back seat role. Britain and France
complain that other NATO allies have not provided enough fire power to
take out Gaddafi's armor and allow the rebels in control of the east to
sweep him from power.
>
> Libyan rebels begged on Thursday for more air strikes and said they
faced a massacre from government forces, who blasted the besieged city
of Misrata with missiles.
>
> NATO planes bombed targets in the capital Tripoli, where state
television showed footage of a defiant Gaddafi cruising through the
streets in a green safari jacket and sunglasses, pumping his fists and
waving from an open-top vehicle.
>
> "MEDIEVAL SIEGE"
>
> Rebels said a hail of rockets fired by besieging forces into a
residential district of Misrata, Libya's third largest city, had killed
23 civilians, mostly women and children.
>
> "Over 200 Grad missiles fell on the port area, including residential
neighbourhoods near the port. They shelled this area because the port is
Misrata's only window to the outside world," a rebel spokesman using the
name Ghassan said by telephone.
>
> "The destruction there was huge. I was there and saw for myself," he
said, adding that the port had been shut.
>
> In their article, the U.S., British and French leaders said Misrata
was "enduring a medieval siege as Gaddafi tries to strangle its
population into submission."
>
> Aid organizations warn of a humanitarian disaster in the city, the
lone major rebel bastion in western Libya, where hundreds of civilians
are said to have died in a six-week siege.
>
> NATO foreign ministers in Berlin promised on Thursday in a joint
declaration to provide "all necessary resources and maximum operational
flexibility" for the air campaign to maintain a "high operational tempo
against legitimate ta

[proletar] Re: What prospects for Arab democracies?

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Katanya sih suara rakyat suara tuhan. Kenyataannya suara rakyat yang
digembar-gemborkan suara tuhan, terutama di NKRI tercinta,  tertutup
oleh amplop atau intimidasi.
Disamping, kecuali aktifis masing-masing partai, sesungguhnya demokrasi
adalah sebagaimana milih kucing dalam karung. Apa dan bagaimananya siapa
yg akan  dipilih untuk mewakili masing-masing pemilih, bisa dilihat
kasus-kasus di Indonesia. Berapa banyak pejabat publik di NKRI yg
bermasalah dg hukum? Atau ignorance?
Demokrasi tidak lepas dari promosi saat masing-masing calon "wakil"
umbar janji, dst dst. dimana setelah mewakili atau menjabat yg dilakukan
kebanyakan bagaimana bertahan selama mungkin. Memang ga semua demikian,
masih ada yg pegang amanah.
Anda-anda boleh atau bahkan tidak se-iya namun kepentingan fihak luar,
yg kemungkinan penyandang dana maupun strategi adalah "inti" demokrasi.

Mungkin demokrasi, kalaulah boleh, bisa digambarkan seperti di zamannya
kaisar Pilatus,  yakni bagaimana menangnya para imam maupun ahli taurat
saat "pemilihan" antara membebaskan (bandit) Barabas atau Yesus a.s.
Meski Pilatus punya kekuasaan namun kalah suara. Maka matilah Yesus
sebagai korban kemenangan (pesta) demokrasi

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
> http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1043/op3.htm
>
> 14 - 20 April 2011
> Issue No. 1043
> Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875
>
> What prospects for Arab democracies?
> Democracies in their beginnings are messy. A case in point is the
United States, writes James Zogby
>
>
\

>
> "Will Arabs be able to form real democracies?" (or some variation on
that theme) is a question I am frequently asked these days. After
several exchanges with those who ask this question, I have come to
realise that in most instances in the backs of their minds are a set of
assumptions about what constitutes a "real democracy" and a rather
naïve and ahistorical understanding about how democracies come into
being and then function and evolve.
>
> Democracies are more than an election, and it's not the first election
that matters, it's the second and each one that follows that matter
more.
>
> I was in Yemen in 1993, having been invited to speak there on
democracy and elections. The country was about to hold its first
post-unification parliamentary contest and the air was as thick with
politics as the city's walls were with posters. As I visited the
headquarters of each of the competing political parties and heard their
election strategies for winning this contest and their plans for the
future of the country, I also listened to their complaints. "The ruling
party keeps tearing down our signs," or "They are paying people to vote
and telling them for whom to vote," and more.
>
> Having been involved in politics and elections since my childhood,
none of this was new to me, and I told them so. "That happens in Chicago
all the time," I would say, or "In Philadelphia, we call that 'walking
around money,'" or "I know how difficult that behaviour can be, it was
done to us last year in Michigan."
>
> A US State Department official who was present at one session
complained to me afterwards about these comments. I rejected the
criticism arguing that I could not pretend that America's democracy was
a flawless model to be emulated -- a sort of "Cindy Crawford of
democracies". Because holding ourselves up as perfect is not only false,
it sets the bar too high, beyond the reach of others.
>
> The issue, I would remind each group I addressed, is not the flaws in
this election, but whether or not processes were being put in place to
impartially adjudicate complaints and take action to correct problems
before the next election.
>
> This did not occur in Yemen, with the result that with each election
that followed, the system became less -- not more -- open, undermining
confidence in political processes in general, and democracy in
particular.
>
> Democracies aren't born, they are made over time.
>
> Early in President Clinton's term in office I was invited to the
National Archives to hear the president address how he planned to "mend,
not end" our nation's affirmative action programme. Waiting for the
speech to begin, I was struck by the murals that surround the ceiling of
the building's main hall. They portray scenes of the "Founders" who
were, of course, all white men of means (landowners, merchants, or
professionals, etc). As I looked at them, I thought to myself "Did these
men (many of whom were slave-holders) have any idea what would become of
their fledgling and imperfect enterprise?"
>
> It is important for us to remember that when, in 1788, the vote was
taken in Virginia to ratify the newly drafted Constitution of the United
States, it passed 89 to 79. Those numbers reflected the limits on the
franchise in our new democracy. Only white men of wealth were entitled
to vote. And we should never forget that it took another seven decad

[proletar] Abducted Italian activist found executed in Gaza, Hamas says

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/abducted-italian-activist-found-executed-in-gaza-hamas-says-1.356099

Published 03:14 15.04.11
Latest update 03:14 15.04.11
Abducted Italian activist found executed in Gaza, Hamas says
Two suspects have reportedly been arrested in the alleged kidnapping and 
subsequent murder of Vittorio Arrigoni, an activist in the International 
Solidarity Movement; Arrigoni was hanged in an Islamist militant's home.
The body of an Italian pro-Palestinian activist was found hanging in the home 
of a Palestinian militant in the Gaza Strip early Friday, hours after he was 
reportedly kidnapped.

Hamas officials reported that the body of Vittorio Arrigoni, 36, was discovered 
in the home of a member of the Monotheism and Holy War group that claimed 
responsibility for the abduction in a video released Thursday.

Two suspects have already been arrested, and Hamas claims to be searching a 
third.

The video claiming to show the victim emerged from Gaza on Thursday afternoon, 
teamed with the extremist group's demand that Hamas release its leader who was 
arrested last month. The group threatened to execute the hostage if it demands 
were not met by Friday afternoon.

Co-founder of the International Solidarity Movement, Huwaida Arraf, confirmed 
that the abducted man in the video appeared to be one of its activists, 
identifying him as Arrigoni.

Later Thursday, Hamas police reportedly stormed a Gaza City apartment and found 
Arrigoni's body. In a statement, the Hamas Interior Ministry said the man was 
killed "in an awful way" shortly after he was abducted at mid-day Thursday.

Interior Ministry spokesman Ehab al-Ghussein said the kidnappers had planned 
from the beginning to kill their victim not to trade him for captives. He also 
said that a member of the militant group led them to the house.

The Palestinian People Party, a faction of the Palestine Liberation 
Organization that is headed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, condemned 
the killing and demanded the killers face the "utmost punishment."

"This crime does not reflect the morals or the traditions of the Palestinian 
people," the group said in a statement.

An Italian doctor was reportedly on his way to Gaza from Israel to identify 
Arrigoni's body.

The video released by the militant group shows a man with a thick black 
blindfold and a large bruise on his face. Apparently seated, he is held in 
front of the camera by an unseen person.

In a message on the video, the extremist group demanded that Hamas free its 
leader, arrested in early March, and two other members whose names had not been 
previously known.

Sheikh Abu Walid-al-Maqdasi, the leader of the group, was arrested in a crowded 
beachside neighborhood of Gaza City last month.

Although Hamas authorities were responsible for locating Arrigoni, Hamas itself 
is a fundamentalist Islamic group. But it faces challenges from even more 
extremist offshoots of Islam, including Walid-al-Maqdasi's group, that take 
inspiration from Al-Qaida and the world jihad movement. Hamas has denied that 
al-Qaida has a presence in Gaza.

Kidnappings of foreigners were common before the Hamas takeover. Most of those 
abducted were foreign correspondents, including Alan Johnston of the BBC, who 
was abducted and held for 114 days before being freed in July 2007, just after 
Hamas overran Gaza, expelling forces loyal to Palestinian President Mahmoud 
Abbas.

ISM, the organization to which Arrigoni belonged, operates in the West Bank and 
Gaza and is known for trying to prevent the Israeli military from carrying out 
its missions. Arraf said this activist has been going in and out of Gaza for 
more than two years. He was working with farmers and fishermen.

The ISM incident that got the most attention was the 2003 death of American 
activist Rachel Corrie, who was crushed by an Israeli military bulldozer in 
southern Gaza while trying to block its path.
 

More on this topic 
  a.. Pro-Palestinian group: Activist kidnapped by Gaza Islamists


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[proletar] Allies say Libya campaign on until Gaddafi goes

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=1&id=24877


Allies say Libya campaign on until Gaddafi goes

15/04/2011 

 
  In this image made from TV , Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi is seen in 
Tripoli on Thursday April 14 2011. (AP) 
 
  A rebel fighter mans an anti-aircraft gun, next to an opposition flag, in 
the desert on the outskirts of Ajdabiya, Libya Thursday, April 14, 2011. (AP) 
 
  A Libyan anti-Gadhafi protester attends a demonstration in front of the 
Arab league headquarters in Cairo, Egypt, Thursday, April 14, 2011. (AP) 
TRIPOLI, (Reuters) - Leaders of Britain, France and the United States vowed on 
Friday to keep up their military campaign in Libya until Muammar Gaddafi leaves 
power, and rebels said his forces pounded the city of Misrata with missiles. 
In a strongly worded, jointly written article published in newspapers on both 
sides of the Atlantic, British Prime Minister David Cameron, French President 
Nicolas Sarkozy and U.S. President Barack Obama said leaving Gaddafi in power 
would be an "unconscionable betrayal" of the Libyan people.

"It is unthinkable that someone who has tried to massacre his own people can 
play a part in their future government," the leaders wrote.

"So long as Gaddafi is in power, NATO and its coalition partners must maintain 
their operations so that civilians remain protected and the pressure on the 
regime builds," they said.

"Then a genuine transition from dictatorship to an inclusive constitutional 
process can really begin, led by a new generation of leaders. For that 
transition to succeed, Colonel Gaddafi must go, and go for good."

France and Britain want to extend air strikes to the logistics and 
decision-making centres of Gaddafi's army, rather than start arming Libyan 
rebels, French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet said.

Asked if it was time to send weapons to the rebels, Longuet said: "This is the 
reason France and Britain want to show our determination, including with 
strikes on military decision centres in Libya or on logistics depots which 
today are being spared."

Reaction to the letter from the Gaddafi camp was swift in coming as the Libyan 
leader's daughter Aisha told a rally in Tripoli, at a family compound bombed by 
the Americans in 1986, that demanding her father's departure was an insult to 
the Libyan people.

"Talk about Gaddafi stepping down is an insult to all Libyans because Gaddafi 
is not in Libya, but in the hearts of all Libyans," she said in a speech 
broadcast live on Libyan television to mark the 25th anniversary of American 
strikes on the huge complex, which includes military barracks.

The article by the Western allies appeared at a time when diplomatic efforts 
have failed to paper over divisions between NATO allies about how intensively 
they should prosecute the three-week-old air war, and the situation on the 
ground has shown signs of stalemate.

Washington, which led the campaign in its first week, has since turned over 
command to NATO and taken a back seat role. Britain and France complain that 
other NATO allies have not provided enough fire power to take out Gaddafi's 
armor and allow the rebels in control of the east to sweep him from power.

Libyan rebels begged on Thursday for more air strikes and said they faced a 
massacre from government forces, who blasted the besieged city of Misrata with 
missiles.

NATO planes bombed targets in the capital Tripoli, where state television 
showed footage of a defiant Gaddafi cruising through the streets in a green 
safari jacket and sunglasses, pumping his fists and waving from an open-top 
vehicle.

"MEDIEVAL SIEGE"

Rebels said a hail of rockets fired by besieging forces into a residential 
district of Misrata, Libya's third largest city, had killed 23 civilians, 
mostly women and children.

"Over 200 Grad missiles fell on the port area, including residential 
neighbourhoods near the port. They shelled this area because the port is 
Misrata's only window to the outside world," a rebel spokesman using the name 
Ghassan said by telephone.

"The destruction there was huge. I was there and saw for myself," he said, 
adding that the port had been shut.

In their article, the U.S., British and French leaders said Misrata was 
"enduring a medieval siege as Gaddafi tries to strangle its population into 
submission."

Aid organizations warn of a humanitarian disaster in the city, the lone major 
rebel bastion in western Libya, where hundreds of civilians are said to have 
died in a six-week siege.

NATO foreign ministers in Berlin promised on Thursday in a joint declaration to 
provide "all necessary resources and maximum operational flexibility" for the 
air campaign to maintain a "high operational tempo against legitimate targets."

But several allies rebuffed calls from France and Britain to contribute more to 
the air attacks, conducted under a United Nations mandate to protect civilians.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague said

[proletar] Re: The DPR's Shameful Politics of Ignorance

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Menurut pendapatmu seberapa imbangnya dg ignorance(s) para
eksekutif-yudikatif vs anggota legislatif? Bagaimana pendapat Novri
Susan mengenai hal ini? Sepertinya Susan telah, menurut Jawa, "nggebyah
uyah" thd para legislators.

Note
nggebyah uyah lk air laut semuanya asin

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
>
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/opinion/the-dprs-shameful-politics-of-ign\
orance/435465
>
> The DPR's Shameful Politics of Ignorance
> Novri Susan | April 15, 2011
>
> Indonesians may already have lost the words to describe the values and
principles of lawmakers' behavior in the House of Representatives.
During the democratization era, political elites have become wilder and
shown open contempt for the system. Watching porn videos at a
legislative meeting is but the latest example.
>
> What our elites easily forget is that their power comes from people
through general election and taxes. And they show their insensitivity to
that public with the unpopular proposal to build a new legislative
building with a price tag of Rp 1.13 trillion ($131 million).
>
> The stated reason for a new House tower is the need for a more
comfortable working space and facilities. However, the public cannot
accept that reason, considering the economic conditions that are now
pushing up food and oil prices for the common consumer. And long list of
issues would seem to merit more consideration than new facilities for
lawmakers - for example, fixing national infrastructure, education and
health services for poor people. Moreover, renovating the existing DPR
building would be a perfectly acceptable solution.
>
> Here Malaysia offers an interesting comparison. The parliament in
Kuala Lumpur listened to public appeals to cancel a new legislative
building that would have been built at an expense of 800 million ringgit
($265 million). Earlier, lawmakers decided just to renovate the old
building. By its political culture, Malaysian civil society is softer
than Indonesia's in voicing public aspirations. Even so, the voice was
heard in this case. Across the strait in Indonesia, though, despite a
vigorous civil society that isn't shy about making known its concerns,
the political elites in the House ignore it.
>
> Obviously, the country's elites are afflicted by the politics of
ignorance. This impedes the proper functioning of democratic systems,
tripping up legislative, monitoring and budgeting activities. A vivid
example of this ignorance can be seen in the failure of the National
Legislation Program in 2010, in which only 10 new laws were passed out
of a target of 70. According to some reports, Indonesia has only been
able to pass a maximum of 20 laws annually since the birth of the
democracy era.
>
> Compare that number to Singapore, where from 1990-98 the parliament
was able to push through 360 new pieces of legislation - an average of
45 new laws per year, according to its Legislative Council Secretariat.
This gap in performance between the two countries offers tangible
evidence of the politics of ignorance running rampant in the DPR. Beside
the poor performance of the legislative program, the House is still
unable to fulfill its role of monitoring the executive branch of the
government, as witnessed by the failure of the Bank Century
investigation, and the slow progress being made in eradicating
corruption.
>
> Colombia University political scientist Jeffrey Friedman, through his
article about "the epistemology and politics of ignorance" stated that
the ignorance disease among politicians actually occurs as a rational
mechanism to achieve self-interested goals, such as the accumulation of
money from state budgets. Friedman calls this mechanism "deliberately
dissembling," and it occurs when politicians carry on clandestine
discussions on how to utilize state resources for personal gain. The
deliberately dissembling phenomenon can be clearly seen at work in the
House's resolute intention to proceed with the unpopular tower
construction.
>
> Basically, deliberately dissembling works best in an oligarchy. It
speaks ill of our country that it has been so easy for legislators to
ignore public appeals to drop the building project - even to the point
of seeming absurdly, deliberately obtuse on the matter.
>
> Another ridiculous political phenomenon rising up recently is House
Speaker Marzuki Alie's supposed ignorance of President Susilo Bambang
Yudhoyono's call to put a tight leash on budget expenditures following
the recent spikes in the price of oil. Marzuki's ignorance, along with
that of his fellow Democratic legislators, of the president's call to
reduce spending could lead to the Indonesian people's trust eroding in
the government as a whole.
>
> Moreover, many people are still questioning the overall benefit of a
democratic government on their quality of life. At a lower-income,
grassroots level, there is a persistent belief that life has gotten
tougher since the reformasi movement came into being in 1998. When
ele

[proletar] Eyes on spies in Indonesia

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/MD16Ae02.html

Apr 16, 2011


Eyes on spies in Indonesia 
By Megawati Wijaya 


JAKARTA - New legislation before Indonesia's parliament aims to give special 
powers to intelligence agencies charged with fighting terrorism. While 
advocates of the bill argue tougher laws are needed to pre-empt attacks, if 
passed as proposed the legislation will erode civil liberties and represent a 
significant setback for the country's fledgling democracy. 

The bill proposes to grant the main state intelligence agency, known as BIN, 
the power to arrest suspected terrorists before they attack. It also allows for 
the pre-emptive arrest of espionage and subversion suspects and empowers BIN to 
wiretap phone conversations, intercept without a court order social media 
content such as Facebook and Twitter and secretly access suspects' bank 
accounts. 

Many Western governments, including the United States, have hailed Indonesia's 
counter-terrorism efforts, including its crackdown on Islamic militants linked 
to the regional Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) terrorist group. JI has been held 
responsible for various attacks, including the 2002 Bali bombing that killed 
over 200 people, and is known to have links with al-Qaeda's global network. 

Those successes have been chalked up partly to close cooperation with US and 
Australian officials through the police-run Detachment 88 counter-terrorism 
task force, which has managed a series of high profile arrests and executions 
of wanted terrorists. 

In September last year, the government created the interdepartmental National 
Antiterrorism Agency (BNPT), which sets the country's broad counter-terrorism 
agenda and oversees the "deradicalization" of convicted terrorists. Recent 
arrests and incidents, meanwhile, have given strong impetus to the 
controversial new intelligence bill's passage. 

Authorities recently arrested erstwhile terror suspect Abu Bakar Bashir on 
charges he was involved with an underground terrorist training camp in Aceh 
province. Operatives at the camp stand accused of plotting attacks on hotels 
and embassies in Jakarta and assassinations of high-profile figures, including 
President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. 

Last month, parcel bombs were sent to activists involved in promoting pluralism 
in a known civil society center in Jakarta. One of the bombs exploded and 
injured three people. No suspects have been identified or apprehended but media 
reports noted those targeted were known to be at loggerheads with Islamic 
fundamentalist groups. 

BIN, which is tasked with tracking terror suspects and their activities, was a 
subject of controversy long before the advent of the "war on terror". 

In his book Intel: Inside Indonesia's Intelligence Service, security expert 
Kenneth Conboy wrote that during Suharto's authoritarian regime BIN's 
predecessor, Bakin, regularly detained and clamped down on the government's 
domestic political opponents. It was also instrumental in tracking and 
combating local insurgent groups, he wrote. 

While the military has undergone significant reforms since Suharto's 1998 
downfall, progress in making BIN more accountable has been less apparent, 
experts say. Throughout its 60 plus years of existence, BIN and its earlier 
incarnations operated without a firm legal and political foundation. 

BIN is currently one among several Indonesian intelligence agencies, including 
the military's BAIS, the police's Intelpam and a separate intelligence unit 
responsible to the attorney general. Analysts believe inter-agency competition 
and suspicion has hampered intelligence sharing and hence operations over the 
years. 

Regulations for national intelligence bodies are covered only by presidential 
decree that generally fail to spell out clearly their functions and activities. 
Until now BIN reports directly to only the president and is not held 
accountable to parliament for its actions. That, critics and analysts say, has 
historically provided cover for abuses. 

Accountable spooks 
Some security experts anticipate the proposed new bill, which took some eight 
years to draft, will provide greater checks and balances on BIN. 

"While intelligence operations have to be very exclusive and secretive, there 
needs to be laws to regulate them," said Andi Widjajanto, a social and 
political science lecturer at the University of Indonesia and long-time 
observer of Indonesia's intelligence agencies. "It's very dangerous not to have 
laws regulating intelligence [bodies] as it can lead to abuse of power," he 
said. 

Those future powers are now a matter of hot dispute between the ministry of 
defense and parliament. In particular, the military has pushed for the power to 
detain and interrogate suspects without a court order for up to seven days, a 
period during which the suspect would not be allowed access to a lawyer or 
other outside counsel. 

De facto opposition party Indonesian Democratic Party of Str

[proletar] What prospects for Arab democracies?

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1043/op3.htm

14 - 20 April 2011
Issue No. 1043
Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875

What prospects for Arab democracies?
Democracies in their beginnings are messy. A case in point is the United 
States, writes James Zogby 



"Will Arabs be able to form real democracies?" (or some variation on that 
theme) is a question I am frequently asked these days. After several exchanges 
with those who ask this question, I have come to realise that in most instances 
in the backs of their minds are a set of assumptions about what constitutes a 
"real democracy" and a rather naïve and ahistorical understanding about how 
democracies come into being and then function and evolve. 

Democracies are more than an election, and it's not the first election that 
matters, it's the second and each one that follows that matter more.

I was in Yemen in 1993, having been invited to speak there on democracy and 
elections. The country was about to hold its first post-unification 
parliamentary contest and the air was as thick with politics as the city's 
walls were with posters. As I visited the headquarters of each of the competing 
political parties and heard their election strategies for winning this contest 
and their plans for the future of the country, I also listened to their 
complaints. "The ruling party keeps tearing down our signs," or "They are 
paying people to vote and telling them for whom to vote," and more.

Having been involved in politics and elections since my childhood, none of this 
was new to me, and I told them so. "That happens in Chicago all the time," I 
would say, or "In Philadelphia, we call that 'walking around money,'" or "I 
know how difficult that behaviour can be, it was done to us last year in 
Michigan."

A US State Department official who was present at one session complained to me 
afterwards about these comments. I rejected the criticism arguing that I could 
not pretend that America's democracy was a flawless model to be emulated -- a 
sort of "Cindy Crawford of democracies". Because holding ourselves up as 
perfect is not only false, it sets the bar too high, beyond the reach of 
others. 

The issue, I would remind each group I addressed, is not the flaws in this 
election, but whether or not processes were being put in place to impartially 
adjudicate complaints and take action to correct problems before the next 
election. 

This did not occur in Yemen, with the result that with each election that 
followed, the system became less -- not more -- open, undermining confidence in 
political processes in general, and democracy in particular. 

Democracies aren't born, they are made over time.

Early in President Clinton's term in office I was invited to the National 
Archives to hear the president address how he planned to "mend, not end" our 
nation's affirmative action programme. Waiting for the speech to begin, I was 
struck by the murals that surround the ceiling of the building's main hall. 
They portray scenes of the "Founders" who were, of course, all white men of 
means (landowners, merchants, or professionals, etc). As I looked at them, I 
thought to myself "Did these men (many of whom were slave-holders) have any 
idea what would become of their fledgling and imperfect enterprise?" 

It is important for us to remember that when, in 1788, the vote was taken in 
Virginia to ratify the newly drafted Constitution of the United States, it 
passed 89 to 79. Those numbers reflected the limits on the franchise in our new 
democracy. Only white men of wealth were entitled to vote. And we should never 
forget that it took another seven decades before slavery was abolished, as an 
institution, and six more decades before women were given the right to vote, 
and even longer still before the franchise was fully extended to African 
Americans. 

One could add the discriminatory and burdensome restrictions placed on African 
Americans even after they were guaranteed the right to vote, or the shameful 
genocidal treatment of Native Americans, or the "dirty tricks" that have used 
to intimidate and suppress the turnout of Hispanic and other minority voters. 
The point should be clear. Our democracy was not born perfect. To the contrary, 
it was extremely imperfect. But equally important to recall is how our 
democracy has continued to grow and expand. 

Even now, though, after evidence of widespread problems that called into 
question the results of the 2000 and 2004 presidential contests and the Supreme 
Court decision that opened the doors for unlimited amounts of undisclosed 
corporate funds to play a role in our elections, it is painfully clear that we 
still face real challenges to our democracy and a lot of hard work to do here 
at home. 

And so, before we either pontificate or prejudge, a bit of history and humility 
are in order.

Final thoughts: Having said all t

[proletar] Revolution is a messy affair

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1043/op6.htm

 14 - 20 April 2011
Issue No. 1043
Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875

Revolution is a messy affair
Patience is needed for the Egyptian revolution to bear fruit, though the people 
expect immediate change, writes Samir Sobhi 



We've ventured into the unknown and we've emerged slightly battered and a bit 
dishevelled. This is all part of the game. You cannot have a birth without 
going through the messy business of delivery. So what's next?

The immediate task is clear. The freedom we sought has to acquire a 
recognisable shape, has to be moulded into a form that is suitable to us as 
Egyptians. We will have to reinvent ourselves as a modern nation living in a 
fast-changing world, a world that no longer recognises barriers to information 
or innovation.

Years ago, veteran journalist Mohamed Hassanein Heikal was kind enough to write 
an introduction for my book, In the Corridors of Journalism. In that 
introduction, he said that there are three types of political legitimacies. One 
is the traditional legitimacy that arises from religious or tribal roots and 
that calls for unquestioned obedience on the part of the governed. Of this kind 
of legitimacy, Saudi Arabia is a clear example. Then there is constitutional 
and legal legitimacy, which grows from the balance among various classes and 
social forces once a certain level of economic, social and cultural progress is 
achieved. Under this kind of legitimacy, conflicting interests can be balanced 
through free and democratic dialogue. Great Britain offers an example for how 
this kind of legitimacy works.

The third kind of legitimacy is transitional legitimacy, which tends to arise 
in periods of transition from traditional to modern legitimacy. Usually, 
transitional legitimacy centres on the figure of a strongman, a benevolent or 
malevolent tyrant. At best, the strongman would be someone with charisma who 
could lead his nation smoothly through periods of delicate transition.

Every now and then, history propels a man into a leading position, one that he 
may fill with dignity or abuse to the detriment of his people. This model is 
usually seen in periods of great turmoil, such as those preceding the rise of 
Cromwell in England, Napoleon in France, or Bismarck in Germany. More recent 
examples of one-man rule are De Gaulle in France, Abdel-Nasser in Egypt, and 
Tito in Yugoslavia.

The press in any country is only a reflection of its state of political 
affairs. In cases of one-man rule, the press is expected to toe the line, 
refraining from any criticism of the leader and his family. In cases 
constitutional legitimacy, problems are solved through free speech and the 
press becomes central to political debate, an integral part of the democratic 
process. 

In regimes based on the legitimacy of one man, the whole of political life 
becomes concentrated, and the press can at best offer cautious advice, and at 
worst sing the praises of the regime.

History changes when one type of legitimacy is replaced by another, a process 
that is often bloody and messy. When two legitimacies reach the point of 
collision, change is bound to happen. And it is not over until the remnants of 
the old legitimacy are defeated.

Political systems do not end of their own accord. They have to be defeated by 
more powerful agents, by new forces that are ready and willing to assume 
leadership. Frightful scenes of collision are to be expected when the 
traditional past is challenged by the rising forces of democracy.

For now, our main task should be to restore order to our streets, to make sure 
that the police are deployed in force and getting a decent pay.

The seeds of change have been sown in Tahrir Square. We'll have to watch over 
them so that they may grow and bear fruit. We'll have to be patient. This is 
not an easy process. It may take a year or two, perhaps longer. But we're 
prepared to wait, because it is worth it.


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[proletar] The DPR's Shameful Politics of Ignorance

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/opinion/the-dprs-shameful-politics-of-ignorance/435465

The DPR's Shameful Politics of Ignorance
Novri Susan | April 15, 2011

Indonesians may already have lost the words to describe the values and 
principles of lawmakers' behavior in the House of Representatives. During the 
democratization era, political elites have become wilder and shown open 
contempt for the system. Watching porn videos at a legislative meeting is but 
the latest example. 

What our elites easily forget is that their power comes from people through 
general election and taxes. And they show their insensitivity to that public 
with the unpopular proposal to build a new legislative building with a price 
tag of Rp 1.13 trillion ($131 million). 

The stated reason for a new House tower is the need for a more comfortable 
working space and facilities. However, the public cannot accept that reason, 
considering the economic conditions that are now pushing up food and oil prices 
for the common consumer. And long list of issues would seem to merit more 
consideration than new facilities for lawmakers - for example, fixing national 
infrastructure, education and health services for poor people. Moreover, 
renovating the existing DPR building would be a perfectly acceptable solution. 

Here Malaysia offers an interesting comparison. The parliament in Kuala Lumpur 
listened to public appeals to cancel a new legislative building that would have 
been built at an expense of 800 million ringgit ($265 million). Earlier, 
lawmakers decided just to renovate the old building. By its political culture, 
Malaysian civil society is softer than Indonesia's in voicing public 
aspirations. Even so, the voice was heard in this case. Across the strait in 
Indonesia, though, despite a vigorous civil society that isn't shy about making 
known its concerns, the political elites in the House ignore it. 

Obviously, the country's elites are afflicted by the politics of ignorance. 
This impedes the proper functioning of democratic systems, tripping up 
legislative, monitoring and budgeting activities. A vivid example of this 
ignorance can be seen in the failure of the National Legislation Program in 
2010, in which only 10 new laws were passed out of a target of 70. According to 
some reports, Indonesia has only been able to pass a maximum of 20 laws 
annually since the birth of the democracy era. 

Compare that number to Singapore, where from 1990-98 the parliament was able to 
push through 360 new pieces of legislation - an average of 45 new laws per 
year, according to its Legislative Council Secretariat. This gap in performance 
between the two countries offers tangible evidence of the politics of ignorance 
running rampant in the DPR. Beside the poor performance of the legislative 
program, the House is still unable to fulfill its role of monitoring the 
executive branch of the government, as witnessed by the failure of the Bank 
Century investigation, and the slow progress being made in eradicating 
corruption. 

Colombia University political scientist Jeffrey Friedman, through his article 
about "the epistemology and politics of ignorance" stated that the ignorance 
disease among politicians actually occurs as a rational mechanism to achieve 
self-interested goals, such as the accumulation of money from state budgets. 
Friedman calls this mechanism "deliberately dissembling," and it occurs when 
politicians carry on clandestine discussions on how to utilize state resources 
for personal gain. The deliberately dissembling phenomenon can be clearly seen 
at work in the House's resolute intention to proceed with the unpopular tower 
construction. 

Basically, deliberately dissembling works best in an oligarchy. It speaks ill 
of our country that it has been so easy for legislators to ignore public 
appeals to drop the building project - even to the point of seeming absurdly, 
deliberately obtuse on the matter. 

Another ridiculous political phenomenon rising up recently is House Speaker 
Marzuki Alie's supposed ignorance of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's call 
to put a tight leash on budget expenditures following the recent spikes in the 
price of oil. Marzuki's ignorance, along with that of his fellow Democratic 
legislators, of the president's call to reduce spending could lead to the 
Indonesian people's trust eroding in the government as a whole. 

Moreover, many people are still questioning the overall benefit of a democratic 
government on their quality of life. At a lower-income, grassroots level, there 
is a persistent belief that life has gotten tougher since the reformasi 
movement came into being in 1998. When elected officials who survive on taxes 
fail to be responsive, the stage is set for larger discontent to spread. 

As a consequence, Indonesian democracy is being threatened and broken down by 
the politics of ignorance among the House's elites. After 10 years of 
democratization, huge swaths of the publ

[proletar] The DPR's Shameful Politics of Ignorance

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/opinion/the-dprs-shameful-politics-of-ignorance/435465

The DPR's Shameful Politics of Ignorance
Novri Susan | April 15, 2011

Indonesians may already have lost the words to describe the values and 
principles of lawmakers' behavior in the House of Representatives. During the 
democratization era, political elites have become wilder and shown open 
contempt for the system. Watching porn videos at a legislative meeting is but 
the latest example. 

What our elites easily forget is that their power comes from people through 
general election and taxes. And they show their insensitivity to that public 
with the unpopular proposal to build a new legislative building with a price 
tag of Rp 1.13 trillion ($131 million). 

The stated reason for a new House tower is the need for a more comfortable 
working space and facilities. However, the public cannot accept that reason, 
considering the economic conditions that are now pushing up food and oil prices 
for the common consumer. And long list of issues would seem to merit more 
consideration than new facilities for lawmakers - for example, fixing national 
infrastructure, education and health services for poor people. Moreover, 
renovating the existing DPR building would be a perfectly acceptable solution. 

Here Malaysia offers an interesting comparison. The parliament in Kuala Lumpur 
listened to public appeals to cancel a new legislative building that would have 
been built at an expense of 800 million ringgit ($265 million). Earlier, 
lawmakers decided just to renovate the old building. By its political culture, 
Malaysian civil society is softer than Indonesia's in voicing public 
aspirations. Even so, the voice was heard in this case. Across the strait in 
Indonesia, though, despite a vigorous civil society that isn't shy about making 
known its concerns, the political elites in the House ignore it. 

Obviously, the country's elites are afflicted by the politics of ignorance. 
This impedes the proper functioning of democratic systems, tripping up 
legislative, monitoring and budgeting activities. A vivid example of this 
ignorance can be seen in the failure of the National Legislation Program in 
2010, in which only 10 new laws were passed out of a target of 70. According to 
some reports, Indonesia has only been able to pass a maximum of 20 laws 
annually since the birth of the democracy era. 

Compare that number to Singapore, where from 1990-98 the parliament was able to 
push through 360 new pieces of legislation - an average of 45 new laws per 
year, according to its Legislative Council Secretariat. This gap in performance 
between the two countries offers tangible evidence of the politics of ignorance 
running rampant in the DPR. Beside the poor performance of the legislative 
program, the House is still unable to fulfill its role of monitoring the 
executive branch of the government, as witnessed by the failure of the Bank 
Century investigation, and the slow progress being made in eradicating 
corruption. 

Colombia University political scientist Jeffrey Friedman, through his article 
about "the epistemology and politics of ignorance" stated that the ignorance 
disease among politicians actually occurs as a rational mechanism to achieve 
self-interested goals, such as the accumulation of money from state budgets. 
Friedman calls this mechanism "deliberately dissembling," and it occurs when 
politicians carry on clandestine discussions on how to utilize state resources 
for personal gain. The deliberately dissembling phenomenon can be clearly seen 
at work in the House's resolute intention to proceed with the unpopular tower 
construction. 

Basically, deliberately dissembling works best in an oligarchy. It speaks ill 
of our country that it has been so easy for legislators to ignore public 
appeals to drop the building project - even to the point of seeming absurdly, 
deliberately obtuse on the matter. 

Another ridiculous political phenomenon rising up recently is House Speaker 
Marzuki Alie's supposed ignorance of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's call 
to put a tight leash on budget expenditures following the recent spikes in the 
price of oil. Marzuki's ignorance, along with that of his fellow Democratic 
legislators, of the president's call to reduce spending could lead to the 
Indonesian people's trust eroding in the government as a whole. 

Moreover, many people are still questioning the overall benefit of a democratic 
government on their quality of life. At a lower-income, grassroots level, there 
is a persistent belief that life has gotten tougher since the reformasi 
movement came into being in 1998. When elected officials who survive on taxes 
fail to be responsive, the stage is set for larger discontent to spread. 

As a consequence, Indonesian democracy is being threatened and broken down by 
the politics of ignorance among the House's elites. After 10 years of 
democratization, huge swaths of the publ

[proletar] 'World's First 3-D Porn Film' Has Hong Kongers Buzzing

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
Refleksi : Perlu anggota DPR mengadakan study banding ke Hongkong untuk melihat 
dengan mata kepala sendiri "World's First 3_D Porn Film" supaya tahu betul 
prateknya,  agar tidak ada yang lihat sembunyi-sembunyi  waktu sidang 
paripurno. Dengan studi banding ini bisa  kampanye anti porno lebih hebat 
intensifnya dari pada anti korupsi, anti pembodohan masa, anti kekurangan gizi 
dan anti kelaparan. 

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/lifeandtimes/worlds-first-3-d-porn-film-has-hong-kongers-buzzing/435642

'World's First 3-D Porn Film' Has Hong Kongers Buzzing
April 15, 2011





Adult actress Saori Hara and actor Hayama Hiro, both wearing 3-D glasses, watch 
a replay on the set of '3-D Sex & Zen: Extreme Ecstasy,' which opened in Hong 
Kong on Thursday. (Reuters Photo) 



Moviegoers flocked to see what has been billed as the world's first 3-D porn 
film as it opened to packed cinemas across Hong Kong on Thursday, with some 
screenings selling out completely. 

Loosely based on a piece of classical Chinese erotic literature, the 
$3.2-million Cantonese-language movie, "3-D Sex and Zen: Extreme Ecstasy," 
features orgies, swinging and some very graphic sex scenes. 

Curious moviegoers from all walks of life - office wor k ers, retirees and 
students - formed long lines outside cinemas in the southern Chinese city, 
eager to catch an eyeful of steamy 3-D action. 

Many in the crowd were women and were not shy about watching the movie. 

"I'm not normally much of a moviegoer, but this one is just too good to miss," 
32-year-old Justin Lai said as she waited at a cinema in Causeway Bay, one of 
the city's busiest entertainment districts. 

"I'd like to see what 3-D porn is like on the big screen." 

College student Yan Shek, 21, was also among the first to see the movie in a 
morning screening. The 113-minute film has been rated Category III in Hong 
Kong, which bars anyone under 18 from watching it. 

"We are very curious," she said. "It is the first time to see an X-rated film 
in the cinema. It should be very interesting." 

Another moviegoer said he snuck out of work to watch the movie. 

"I'm catching the first show on the first day so I'll be the first of my 
friends to see it," said sales executive David, who declined to give his last 
name. 

Set during the Ming dynasty, the film chronicles the story of a young man who, 
after being introduced to the erotic world of an aristocrat, realizes his 
ex-wife is the love of his life. 

The film stars Japanese adult actresses Yukiko Suo and Saori Hara. 

The movie was scheduled to open in Taiwan on Friday and has sparked strong 
interest in many Asian markets, including Japan and South Korea, as well as in 
Europe and the United States, according to the producer. 

Travel operators were reportedly organizing movie-going excursions to Hong Kong 
and Taiwan for tourists from mainland China, where strict censorship rules 
prevent any screening of the film. 

"We are very pleased with ticket sales," said Sharyn Yau, a publicist for China 
3-D Digital Entertainment. "Last week, we heard that 70 to 80 percent of this 
weekend's tickets have already been sold. People obviously love the movie." 

But South China Morning Post film critic Paul Fonoroff was left rather cold by 
the romp, describing it in a review as overlong, one-dimensional and short on 
real passion. 

"Perhaps the most ironic element is the script's ostensible moral that sincere 
love is more satisfying than wanton promiscuity, a concept which, if truly put 
into practice, would cause ticket sales to go flaccid," he wrote. 

The movie is a remake of the 1991 film "Sex and Zen," which is still the 
highest-grossing Hong Kong adult movie of all time. 

"3-D Sex and Zen: Extreme Ecstasy" opens ahead of reported plans by other 
filmmakers to produce similar 3-D pornographic movies. 

Italian director Tinto Brass has announced that he will produce a 3-D remake of 
his 1979 erotic film "Caligula," while Hustler plans to release a pornographic 
spoof of the 3-D science-fiction film "Avatar," the top-grossing movie of all 
time. 

AFP

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[proletar] CNN: Protests resume in Jordanian cities

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Protests resume in Jordanian cities
>From Jomana Karadsheh and Kareem Khadder, CNN
April 15, 2011 -- Updated 1632 GMT (0032 HKT)

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* Hundreds march in Amman and other cities across Jordan
* Protesters call for government, constitutional reforms
* No violence reported during demonstrations in capital


Amman, Jordan (CNN) -- More than a thousand people marched in the Jordanian 
capital on Friday, demanding democratic and economic reforms, protesting 
corruption and calling for social justice and constitutional changes.

Protesters from many political parties and opposition groups took the streets 
of downtown Amman, demanding governmental and constitutional reforms and an end 
to what many call government corruption, amidst tight security from hundreds of 
police and security personnel.

Laila Naffa, 66, a leading member of the Communist Party -- one of the main 
political parties demanding reform -- said that amid ongoing revolutions across 
the Arab world, Jordanians want change as well.

"Today with the revolutions sweeping the Arab world, Jordanians are taking to 
the street asking for the same slogans, freedom, social justice, because after 
the signing of the Wadi Araba Treaty with Israel, things have been 
deteriorating," she said. The 1994 treaty normalized relations between the two 
countries.

"Now we are asking to reform the system, freedom rights for legalizing 
political parties and for getting rid of the current political parties law, 
calling (for) and demanding free elections under the auspices of the judiciary 
control, reform of the constitution. ... This should be done through national 
dialogue and by the king to assure this will be implemented," she added.

Local media reported similar protests Friday in other cities, including Karak 
in the south and Irbid in the north.

Jordanians have held regular protests since January. But unlike demonstrations 
in most Arab countries that have seen uprisings, Jordan's have not been asking 
for regime change but for changes to the regime.

In February, King Abdullah II sacked his prime minister and cabinet in an 
effort to appease the demands, in addition to other economic measures and 
promises of political reform. But the protesters' list of demands grew longer 
as many Jordanians felt emboldened by the popular uprisings in the region.

Although the protests in Jordan have been largely peaceful, more than a hundred 
people were injured and one person died last month when pro-government 
loyalists attacked anti government protesters with sticks and stones. A CNN 
team at the protest also reported that police forces used water cannons to 
disperse the sit-in in a main Amman square and used batons to beat up 
demonstrators.

Mohamad Khateeb, a spokesman for the public security directorate, said the 
demonstrations Friday in Amman were peaceful, and no violence was reported. But 
he said that at least 40 members of the security forces were injured, leaving 
three in serious condition, in stabbings by what he described as Salafi Islamic 
hardliners in al-Zarqa, north of Amman.

Local media reported that clashes erupted when government loyalists attacked 
hundreds of Salafis in al-Zarqa.

The Salafis have been demanding the release of detained members of their 
movement.





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Re: [proletar] El Clasico...

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ajeg

Barca memang tak terbendung karena punya tradisi sebagai tim 
yang 'sudah jadi'. Tapi barangkali ada benarnya kata para 
Madridista bahwa skor 5-0 kemarin lahir dalam pertandingan antara 
tim 'sudah jadi' vs tim 'masih berbenah'. 

Lima bulan sudah berlalu dan Real Madrid kelihatan semakin kompak. 
Taruhlah Barca nanti menang terus di 4 pertandingan itu. Tapi kalau 
setiap pertandingan itu Di Maria bisa menjebol gawang Valdez maka 
Barca tetap kalah dari Madrid dalam urusan Di Maria ini :) 

--- "rezameutia"  wrote:

> Pertemuan El Clasico 2 raksasa sepak bola dunia ini akan terjadi 4 
> kali, setelah El Clasico La Liga hari Sabtu besok, lalu dilanjutkan 
> hari Rabu pada final Copa Del Ray dan semi final Piala Champion 
> tanggal 27 Maret dan 3 Mei.
> 
> Pertandingan hari Sabtu sangat menentukan untuk kelanjutan El 
> Clasico selanjutnya karena kemenangan akan mengangkat moril dan 
> semangat tim pemenang. 
> 
> So far, Barcelona dibawah asuhan Pep Guardiola mencatat rekor tidak 
> terkalahkan dalam pertandingan El Clasico melawan Real Madrid 
> dengan 5 kali kemenangan dan terakhir membantai Real Madrid 5-0.
> 
> Walaupun Barcelona kalah pada hari Sabtu besok, hal itu tidak 
> menggoyahkan posisi Barcelona sebagai pemimpin puncak klasemen La 
> Liga karena saat ini perbedaannya dengan Real Madrid 8 poin, cukup 
> jauh juga.  
> 
> Tetapi, kemenangan bagi Barcelona akan 'wrap up' titel juara La 
> Liga.   
> 
> Disamping semua itu, tentu saja yang disebut El Clasico merupakan 
> big match yang berarti sangat besar untuk fans, pemain, dan 
> terutama martabat sebagai 'the best of the bests', sehingga 
> Barcelona dan Real Madrid akan mati2an untuk menang.
> 
> Real Madrid saat ini sedang berada dalam puncak permainan dan tidak 
> ada pemain yang cedera.  Kaka, Benzema, dan Higuain sudah sehat 
> dari cedera sehingga Jose Maurinho dapat merotasi pemain sesuai 
> dengan strategi yang diniginkan seperti dalam pertandingan Piala 
> Champion kemarin.
> 
> Sementara itu, top score Real Madrid Cristiano Ronaldo sampai saat 
> ini masih belum bisa mencetak gol ke gawang Barcelona.  El Clasico 
> ini merupakan kesempatan bagi Cristiano Ronaldo untuk membuktikan 
> bahwa dia adalah pemain kaliber dunia dengan mencetak gol melawan 
> tim besar, bukan hanya mencetak gol melawan tim 'ecek-ecek'.
> 
> Barcelona saat ini sedang dililit cedera dari beberapa pemain 
> kunci.  Carles Puyol dan Eric Abidal sedang mengalami cedera 
> sehingga membuat pertahanan Barca agak 'shaky'.  
> 
> Gerard Pique dan Gabriel Milito yang kurang berpengalaman di lini 
> pertahanan menggantikan Puyol dan Abidal.  Bahkan pada Piala 
> Champion, Javier Mascherano yang dipasang pada posisi bek, terbukti 
> kurang efisien sehingga digantikan oleh Milito.
> 
> Top score dan Pemain Terbaik Dunia, Lionel Messi sedang dalam top 
> form.  Lionel Messi sudah mencetak 29 gol dalam La Liga  dan 
> mencetak 48 gol di semua kompetisi yang merupakan rekor baru klub 
> Barcelona.  
> 
> Sayangnya striker Bojan Krkic sedang mengalami cedera dan David 
> Villa tidak pernah mencetak gol dalam 9 pertandingan terakhir ini.
> 
> 
> ==






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[proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Thousands take to streets in Syria protests

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Iran itu syiah dan bukan sunni: gerakan menjatuhkan syah dulu dipimpin oleh 
ayatollah.

Tidak berarti bahwa bahaya fundementlis Islam tidak ada di Timur Tengah Arab 
dan Afrika Utara, tapi resiko itu tidak sebesar di Iran.
   

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
> Terlebih dahulu harus dapat Freedom, nanti kalau sudah dapat freedom baru 
> syariah. Bukankah petama-tama  naik ke tahta kekuasaan negera baru sesudah 
> itu syariah, contohnya Iran. Dalam mengulingkan Sah Pahlevi semua tanpa 
> pandang bulu atau aliran politik maupun agama turut, baru setelah Imam 
> Khomeni pegang kekuasaan baru diberlakukan hukum syariah, yang dianggap lawan 
> dibasmikan.
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Jusfiq 
>   To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:11 PM
>   Subject: [proletar] Aljazeera: Thousands take to streets in Syria protests
> 
> 
> 
>   Sekali lagi, yang dituntut orang Syria adalah "Freedom" dan bukan syariah...
> 
>   --
> 
>   Middle East
>   Thousands take to streets in Syria protests
>   Pro-democracy protesters reported in Daraa, Baniyas, Homs, Latakia, Deir ez 
> Zor and suburbs of Damascus.
>   Last Modified: 15 Apr 2011 12:22
> 
>   Pro-democracy protests have taken place in several cities in Syria, a day 
> after Bashar al-Assad, the country's president, attempted to calm mounting 
> opposition to his rule.
> 
>   Around 2,500 people marched in the Syrian town of Daraa on Friday, chanting 
> slogans calling for the "freedom" of the southern town, which has been the 
> epicentre of protests against President Assad's rule.
> 
>   "Between 2,500 and 3,000 people showed up at Al-Saraya area in the centre 
> of the city, chanting slogans in favour of freedom and against the hostile 
> regime," a human rights activist told the AFP news agency, speaking on 
> condition of anonymity.
> 
>   Protests are also under way in Baniyas, Homs, Latakia and Deir ez Zor, as 
> well as in the Douma suburb of the capital Damascus.
> 
>   Rula Amin, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Daraa, reported that the army and 
> security forces were not visible in the city, and that the protesters were 
> being allowed to hold their demonstration.
> 
>   "It's a completely different scene from last Friday when more than 26 
> people were killed during protests and clashes with the security forces and 
> protesters here. Today, no security forces are visible at all. People went 
> after the Friday prayers ... in thousands. They were marching carrying olive 
> branches saying 'peaceful, freedom'. Some were demanding the toppling of the 
> regime, others were saying they just want reforms," she reported.
> 
>   "It comes one day after they met with President Assad in an attempt by the 
> government to calm the situation. Now here in Daraa, these measures seem to 
> have calmed the situation a little bit. People say the president promised 
> them very specific reforms that will be announced very soon, maybe as early 
> as next week."
> 
>   A large pro-democracy protest also took place in the city of Deir ez Zor, 
> on the Euphrates river, while a smaller demonstration was reported in the 
> Barzeh district of Damascus, Reuters reported.
> 
>   In the coastal city of Baniyas, meanwhile, about 1,500 people chanted 
> "freedom" after Friday prayers, despite the deployment of the army in the 
> city as part of a deal to contain protests, the Syrian Observatory for Human 
> Rights said.
> 
>   The latest demonstrations come a day after the Syrian government announced 
> an amnesty for scores of prisoners detained since protests began. President 
> Assad has also unveiled a new cabinet, in a move to placate those calling for 
> political changes.
> 
>   Last Friday, Syrian security forces shot dead more than 26 people in Daraa 
> after thousands of people staged pro-democracy rallies after midday prayers.
> 
>   The protesters were killed when security forces opened fire with rubber 
> bullets and live rounds to disperse stone-throwing protesters.
> 
>   One of the key demands of the protesters has been the lifting of emergency 
> law in the country, which has been in place since 1963.
> 
>   Al Jazeera's Amin reported that the delegation from Daraa which met with 
> the president was satisfied with his promises that the law would lifted in 
> the coming weeks.
> 
>   "According to the delegation that met with the president, he told them that 
> [the emergency law] will be lifted. They said it is going to be lifted by 
> April 25, the deadline that the government had announced, and they are happy 
> with that.
> 
>   "They feel this is one of the major issues and the source of many of the 
> problems. They are tired and have had enough of the security forces having a 
> free hand in arresting people, putting them in prison without trial for 
> years," she reported.
>   Source:
>   Al Jazeera and agencies
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
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>




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[proletar] Dominasi TKI Sektor Informal Akan Segera Tergeser

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
Refleksi : Legal trafficking?  Kalau tak salah ingat dalam salah satu pidato 
Soekarno pada tahun 1945 atau 1946,  beliau katakan perjuangan kemerdekaan 
Indonesia adalah untuk membebaskan bangsa kuli dan sistem sistem exploatasi 
kolonialisme, ternyata sekarang setelah 65 tahun mereka-merdeka tetapi saja 
masih bangsa kuli. Kalau mau berpikir lebih jauh, lebih mendalam maka 
pertanyaannya apakah harus begini hasilnya?


http://us.detiknews.com/read/2011/04/15/001302/1617883/10/dominasi-tki-sektor-informal-akan-segera-tergeser

Jumat, 15/04/2011 00:13 WIB

Dominasi TKI Sektor Informal Akan Segera Tergeser  
Ari Saputra - detikNews

  
 
Ilustrasi 

Jakarta - Pemerintah akan menggeser dominasi Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (TKI) 
sektor informal dengan TKI yang bekerja di sektor formal. Saat ini, 
perbandingan antara TKI informal dan formal adalah 65:35. Dalam dua tahun 
kedepan, komposisi tersebut akan diubah menjadi 50:50.

"Sehingga setelah itu dominasi TKI di luar negeri otomatis tergeser oleh TKI 
sektor formal," kata Kepala Badan Nasional Penempatan dan Perlindungan Tenaga 
Kerja Indonesia (BNP2TKI) Jumhur Hidayat dalam keterangan pers yang diterima 
detikcom, Kamis (14/4/2011).

Saat ini, TKI sektor informal terbanyak bekerja sebagai pembantu rumah tangga 
atau Penata Laksana Rumah Tangga (PLRT). Sementara TKI formal tenaga kerja yang 
mempunyai kemampuan skil atau semi skil yang  bekerja di perusahaan resmi 
seperti industri manufaktur, perkebunan, perikanan, konstruksi, keperawatan, 
perhotelan, rumah sakit, kepelautan, perminyakan, pengelasan, jasa keuangan dan 
otomotif.

"Apalagi, potensi penyerapan pasar TKI formal di luar negeri sangat terbuka 
luas, baik di negara kawasan Asia Pasifik, Eropa dan Amerika, bahkan Timur 
Tengah," jelas Jumhur optimistis.

Berdasarkan data BNP2TKI, sejak Januari-Maret 2011 SISKOTKLN BNP2TKI telah 
memproses pelayanan dokumen bagi 126.131 TKI, dengan rincian 44.635 TKI Formal 
(35,38 persen) dan 80.338 TKI informal (64,62 persen).

Dari jumlah penempatan 126.131 TKI itu, penempatan TKI ke Arab Saudi adalah 
terbesar dalam penempatan TKI ke seluruh dunia yaitu 43.195 orang (34,25 
persen), dengan rincian 8.865 TKI Formal (20,52 persen) dan sisanya 36.606 TKI 
informal (79,58 persen).

Untuk penempatan TKI ke negara-negara Asia Pasifik, didominasi penempatan TKI 
ke Malaysia 24.775 TKI, disusul Taiwan 17.359 TKI, Hongkong 8.683 TKI, 
Singapura 8.076 TKI, dan Brunai Darussalam sebanyak 1.581 TKI.

"Kecuali penempatan TKI ke Malaysia yang masih terganjal moratorium, penempatan 
TKI ke negara-negara Asia Pasifik juga didominasi penempatan TKI PLRT," katanya.

Selama masa moratorium yang kini masih berlaku atau dari Januari-Maret 2011, 
terdapat penempatan 24.775 TKI ke Malaysia, dengan rincian 24.713 TKI Formal 
dan 62 TKI informal. Jenis TKI informal yang dikirim ke Malaysia bukan sebagai 
PLRT tetapi supir atau tukang kebun yang bekerja pada perorangan.

Mengenai proses penerbitan KTKLN bagi para TKI yang berangkat ke luar negeri 
periode Januari-Maret 2011 itu, kantor Balai Pelayanan Penempatan dan 
Perlindungan Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (BP3TKI) Jakarta sangat mendominasi yakni 
74.968 TKI (59,46 persen) dari keseluruhan 126.131 TKI yang berangkat pada 
periode itu.

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Re: [proletar] Aljazeera: Thousands take to streets in Syria protests

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
Terlebih dahulu harus dapat Freedom, nanti kalau sudah dapat freedom baru 
syariah. Bukankah petama-tama  naik ke tahta kekuasaan negera baru sesudah itu 
syariah, contohnya Iran. Dalam mengulingkan Sah Pahlevi semua tanpa pandang 
bulu atau aliran politik maupun agama turut, baru setelah Imam Khomeni pegang 
kekuasaan baru diberlakukan hukum syariah, yang dianggap lawan dibasmikan.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jusfiq 
  To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:11 PM
  Subject: [proletar] Aljazeera: Thousands take to streets in Syria protests



  Sekali lagi, yang dituntut orang Syria adalah "Freedom" dan bukan syariah...

  --

  Middle East
  Thousands take to streets in Syria protests
  Pro-democracy protesters reported in Daraa, Baniyas, Homs, Latakia, Deir ez 
Zor and suburbs of Damascus.
  Last Modified: 15 Apr 2011 12:22

  Pro-democracy protests have taken place in several cities in Syria, a day 
after Bashar al-Assad, the country's president, attempted to calm mounting 
opposition to his rule.

  Around 2,500 people marched in the Syrian town of Daraa on Friday, chanting 
slogans calling for the "freedom" of the southern town, which has been the 
epicentre of protests against President Assad's rule.

  "Between 2,500 and 3,000 people showed up at Al-Saraya area in the centre of 
the city, chanting slogans in favour of freedom and against the hostile 
regime," a human rights activist told the AFP news agency, speaking on 
condition of anonymity.

  Protests are also under way in Baniyas, Homs, Latakia and Deir ez Zor, as 
well as in the Douma suburb of the capital Damascus.

  Rula Amin, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Daraa, reported that the army and 
security forces were not visible in the city, and that the protesters were 
being allowed to hold their demonstration.

  "It's a completely different scene from last Friday when more than 26 people 
were killed during protests and clashes with the security forces and protesters 
here. Today, no security forces are visible at all. People went after the 
Friday prayers ... in thousands. They were marching carrying olive branches 
saying 'peaceful, freedom'. Some were demanding the toppling of the regime, 
others were saying they just want reforms," she reported.

  "It comes one day after they met with President Assad in an attempt by the 
government to calm the situation. Now here in Daraa, these measures seem to 
have calmed the situation a little bit. People say the president promised them 
very specific reforms that will be announced very soon, maybe as early as next 
week."

  A large pro-democracy protest also took place in the city of Deir ez Zor, on 
the Euphrates river, while a smaller demonstration was reported in the Barzeh 
district of Damascus, Reuters reported.

  In the coastal city of Baniyas, meanwhile, about 1,500 people chanted 
"freedom" after Friday prayers, despite the deployment of the army in the city 
as part of a deal to contain protests, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights 
said.

  The latest demonstrations come a day after the Syrian government announced an 
amnesty for scores of prisoners detained since protests began. President Assad 
has also unveiled a new cabinet, in a move to placate those calling for 
political changes.

  Last Friday, Syrian security forces shot dead more than 26 people in Daraa 
after thousands of people staged pro-democracy rallies after midday prayers.

  The protesters were killed when security forces opened fire with rubber 
bullets and live rounds to disperse stone-throwing protesters.

  One of the key demands of the protesters has been the lifting of emergency 
law in the country, which has been in place since 1963.

  Al Jazeera's Amin reported that the delegation from Daraa which met with the 
president was satisfied with his promises that the law would lifted in the 
coming weeks.

  "According to the delegation that met with the president, he told them that 
[the emergency law] will be lifted. They said it is going to be lifted by April 
25, the deadline that the government had announced, and they are happy with 
that.

  "They feel this is one of the major issues and the source of many of the 
problems. They are tired and have had enough of the security forces having a 
free hand in arresting people, putting them in prison without trial for years," 
she reported.
  Source:
  Al Jazeera and agencies



  

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[proletar] Re: Dust storm halts oil exports

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Pakai jubah putih biar kalau ketutup pasir (agak
kelabu) masih nampak bedanya. Keseharian biar
nampak suci yg kalau "main bawah" entah depan
apalagi belakang namanya baptis modern.

CARSON, Calif. — A California pastor has been arrested and charged
with having sex with a 14-year-old member of his congregation. Police
say 44-year-old Leonel Pelayo, a pastor at Iglesia Apostolica Monte de
Horeb in South Los Angeles, allegedly sexually assaulted the teen
between July and August of this year. The pastor met the young girl in
his church youth group, police accusing him of taking the girl to vacant
buildings in the area to have sex with her. Pelayo has been charged with
six felony counts, including lewd act upon a child and unlawful sexual
intercourse. He's looking at a possible four year prison sentence.
Autorities believe there are may be more victims

"Badai Pasir" disukai Bush. Dalam rangka "crusade"
dia pakai istilah "dessert storm".


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
> Refl: Badai pasir ini bukan saja menghalangi export minyak, tetapi
juga bagi manusia harus tutup badan dari ujung kepala sampai tumit kaki.
Kalau tidak maka rambut badan dilekati debu dan pasir. Untuk
membersihkannya perlu air untuk mandi. Tetapi kalau air susah didapat
atau terbatas kwantitasnya maka solusi terbaik ialah pakai jubah dan
tutup segala-galanya.
>
> Masalahnya serupa juga bagi orang Inuit (Eskimo) atau mereka yang
bukan Inuit tetapi berada di daerah iklim dingin. Pada musim dingin
harus tutup badan dan kepala agar tidak mati kedinginan. Apakah berpakai
seperti orang Inuit adalah pakaian agama ataukah diharuskan oleh iklim?
>
> http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MTEwMDI4MDc4NA==
>
> Dust storm halts oil exports
> Published Date: April 14, 2011
>
> KUWAIT: OPEC member Kuwait yesterday halted oil exports as a
"precautionary measure" after a blinding dust storm hit the desert Gulf
state, a Kuwait Petroleum Corp spokesman said. Oil exports from
terminals, facilities to receive vessels and some maintenance works at
oil refineries were "halted as a precautionary measure", Sheikh Talal
Al-Sabah said in a KPC statement. He added, however, the stoppage would
not affect Kuwait's commitments to clients as exports would resume once
the dust cleared. The education ministry also suspended study at all
schools and universities due to the dust storm caused by winds blowing
at high speed and reducing visibility to less than 200 m.
>
> Air traffic was partially affected with incoming flights diverted to
neighbouring airports while departures operated normal services, the
civil aviation department said, quoted by the KUNA state news agency.
Operations at the state's three commercial ports were also suspended due
to low visibility, the ports authority said. Kuwait, OPEC's
fifth-largest producer, pumps around 2.3 million barrels of crude oil
daily through export facilities in the south of the country. Last week,
a similar dust storm also caused a suspension of oil exports and air
traffic. Kuwait has had little rainfall for the fourth winter in a row,
making the desert sand loose and easily carried aloft by strong winds.
Dust storms are rare in winter but common in summer when temperatures
soar. - AFP
>
>
>
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[proletar] Sandstorms dissipating, clear skies for weekend: Met office

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=NjIxNjEwNTUw


Local News
Sandstorms dissipating, clear skies for weekend: Met office
Published Date: April 14, 2011 

KUWAIT: The heavy sandstorms that blanketed Kuwait on Wednesday are expected to 
disappear entirely today, with fine clear weather returning by this evening and 
sunny weather expected over the weekend, according to the country's meteorology 
office. The storms were a result of a high pressure front in the north of the 
country combined with a cold air mass and strong winds gusting to up to 50 
kilometers per hour, according to a senior met office official.

Visibility levels fell to less than 250 meters in some built-up areas 
yesterday, and to 400 meters at Kuwait International Airport (KIA) whilst being 
reduced to virtually zero in open areas, the met office reported. Met office 
director Mohammad Karam predicted that the sandstorms would dissipate overnight 
and disappear by early Thursday morning, although he warned those setting out 
to sea to be extra-careful due to extremely choppy conditions, which could lead 
to high waves.

Karam urged motorists to take particular care when driving during sandstorms, 
as well as warning asthmatic people and those suffering from allergies to take 
the necessary precautions in these conditions and to stay home if possible, 
only venturing out if absolutely essential. He also advised the public to check 
the weather forecast when setting out on trips due to the changeable weather at 
this time of year. Eminent local meteorologist Saleh Al-Ujairi said that the 
sandstorms are entirely normal for this
time of year, but echoed Karam's warnings to sailors and those with breathing 
problems to take particular care due to the current changeable weather 
patterns. - KUNA

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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Mat 7:6
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "johny_indon"  wrote:
>
> tahukah anda yg namanya anjing?
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®" cha6966@
wrote:
> >
> > Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah
kandang dengan ukuran
> > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun,
> > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang.
> >
> > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh
3-3,5m.
> >
> > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari,
> > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam
kandang kecil tanpa penutup.
> >
> > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi
yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati.
> >
> > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya,
> > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat
dasarnya.
> >
> > Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri
sendiri.
> >
> > Nah...
> >
> > Ternyata banyak dari kita,
> > juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah,
fokus terus dengan masalah, mengeluh terus sampai akhirnya frustasi
sendiri.
> >
> > Sadarilah bahwa jawaban dari masalah kita adalah selalu DIATAS,
yaitu
> >
> > TUHAN
> >
> > Menengadahlah,
> > Ucapkanlah doa, & lepas landaslah dalam BERTINDAK mencari solusi.
> >
> > LAKUKAN & LAKUKAN LAGI & TERUS BERJUANG !!!
> >
> > Keep fight !!!
> >
> > Keep Your Dreams !!!
> >
> > Be a Winner !!!
> >
> > You are the CHAMPION
> >
> > God Bless U all my friends..
> >
> > Selamat Malam...
> >
> > Good Night.
> >
> >
> > Ch@​​™
> > pin:21EF6D92
> > Charles Asiku
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Charles Asiku
> >
>






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[proletar] Dust storm halts oil exports

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
Refl: Badai pasir ini bukan saja menghalangi export minyak, tetapi juga bagi 
manusia harus tutup badan dari ujung kepala sampai tumit kaki. Kalau tidak maka 
rambut badan dilekati debu dan pasir. Untuk membersihkannya perlu air untuk 
mandi. Tetapi kalau air susah didapat atau terbatas kwantitasnya maka solusi 
terbaik ialah pakai jubah dan tutup segala-galanya. 

Masalahnya serupa juga bagi orang Inuit (Eskimo) atau mereka yang bukan Inuit 
tetapi berada di daerah iklim dingin. Pada musim dingin harus tutup badan dan 
kepala agar tidak mati kedinginan. Apakah berpakai seperti orang Inuit adalah 
pakaian agama ataukah diharuskan oleh iklim?

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MTEwMDI4MDc4NA==

Dust storm halts oil exports
Published Date: April 14, 2011 

KUWAIT: OPEC member Kuwait yesterday halted oil exports as a "precautionary 
measure" after a blinding dust storm hit the desert Gulf state, a Kuwait 
Petroleum Corp spokesman said. Oil exports from terminals, facilities to 
receive vessels and some maintenance works at oil refineries were "halted as a 
precautionary measure", Sheikh Talal Al-Sabah said in a KPC statement. He 
added, however, the stoppage would not affect Kuwait's commitments to clients 
as exports would resume once the dust cleared. The education ministry also 
suspended study at all schools and universities due to the dust storm caused by 
winds blowing at high speed and reducing visibility to less than 200 m.

Air traffic was partially affected with incoming flights diverted to 
neighbouring airports while departures operated normal services, the civil 
aviation department said, quoted by the KUNA state news agency. Operations at 
the state's three commercial ports were also suspended due to low visibility, 
the ports authority said. Kuwait, OPEC's fifth-largest producer, pumps around 
2.3 million barrels of crude oil daily through export facilities in the south 
of the country. Last week, a similar dust storm also caused a suspension of oil 
exports and air traffic. Kuwait has had little rainfall for the fourth winter 
in a row, making the desert sand loose and easily carried aloft by strong 
winds. Dust storms are rare in winter but common in summer when temperatures 
soar. - AFP



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[proletar] Sikap Hidup Positif

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Powered by Telkomsel ®

Sesuatu ‎​yg baik, belum tentu benar.
Sesuatu ‎​yg bagus, belum tentu berharga.
Sesuatu ‎​yg berharga & berguna, belum tentu bagus.

Jika Anda tidak bisa menjadi Orang pandai, jadilah Orang ‎​yg baik.

Jika kita berbuat baik, kebaikan pula ‎​yg akan kita terima kelak.

Iri hati yg ditunjukan kepada seseorang akan melukai diri sendiri.

‎​Yang penting bukan berapa lama kita hidup, tetapi bagaimana kita hidup.

Orang bijaksana selalu melengkapi kehidupannya dengan banyak persaudaraan.

Jika kejahatan di balas kejahatan, maka itu adalah dendam.

Jika kebaikan dibalas kebaikan itu adalah perkara biasa.

Jika kebaikan dibalas kejahatan, itu adalah zalim.

Tapi jika kejahatan dibalas kebaikan, itu adalah mulia dan terpuji. 

Persaudaraan sejati layaknya Kesehatan, nilainya baru kita sadari setelah kita 
kehilangannya.

Namun kita tidak akan pernah memiliki seorang Saudara, jika kita mengharapkan 
seseorang tanpa kesalahan.

Karena semua manusia itu Baik kalau kita bisa melihat Kebaikannya, dan 
Menyenangkan kalau kita bisa melihat Keunikannya. 
Tapi semua manusia itu akan buruk dan membosankan, kalau kita tidak bisa 
melihat keduanya.

Sesungguhnya hati adalah ladang, maka tanamlah ia dgn niat ‎​yang baik diiringi 
dengan perkataan yang baik, dan perbuatan ‎​yang baik dari hati ‎​yg tulus.

Positive Minds brings you Positive Life.. 


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Bls: [proletar] Masturbasi Pikiran 2…

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik PAREWA
Gara2 sering masturbasi pikiran, isi email si jusfiq belepotan kayak pejuh

--- Pada Jum, 15/4/11, wawan  menulis:

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Wed Mar 3, 2010 3:38 pm



Masturbasi Pikiran 2



Bapak-bapak ibu-ibu yang terhormat, yang telah diberi ketulusan hati dari

sononya, untuk datang ke pengajian mesjid milis saritem bandung,

saya AA Wawan Al-Kafirun Jaya, yang baru saja kawin lagi, habis kawin lagi itu

rasanya gimana githc……mak nyuss dah pokoknya…..

masak mobil saya saja bisa baru…tapi istri nggak bisa ditukar jenis yang

baru….itu namanya melanggar hukum Allah kalau semuanya tidak diperbaharui…..



jadi begitulah bapak-bapak ibu-ibu, Allah menghendaki bahwa segalanya kudu

diperbaharui, terutama pikiran-pikiran kita….



kita ucapkan salam dulu kepada kanjeng Nabi Mohammad Rasul Allah, yang telah

menceritakan kepada kita, tentang alam ini….



dalam benak kita, masih kita ingat ucapan Rasul yang terakhir dan sempurna…



Ya Nabi….jin dan syetan terbuat dari apa ya kanjeng nabi ngganteng yang

dicintai para istri-istrinya?



"Jin dan syetan berasal dari api" jawab nabi ngganteng



Ya Nabi….malaikat terbuat dari apa ya kanjeng nabi ngganteng penguasa tanah

arab abad ke 6???



"malaikat berasal dari cahaya atau nur" jawab Nabi junjungan kita…



Nabi junjungan kita konon naik bouraq dan isra miraj ke langit ke 7…



diceritakannya kepada kita semua hamba Allah dan penjunjung tinggi nabi besar

terakhir dan sempurna, bahwa di langit ke 7, nabi kita melihat panasnya api

neraka, api neraka itu panas, apinya menjilat-jilat ke seluruh tubuh kita,

seperti jilatannya maria ozawa pela…dari bawah ujung kuku kaki…sampai

ujung rambut anda…..sehingga saking hotnya membuat tubuh kita

menggelinjang-gelinjang gimana gitchu…….demikian nabi kita menceritakan

kisah mirajnya…..



Untuk itu mari kita memahami kisah nabi ini dengan hati terbuka yang telah tulus

bersih menerima kesucian kehendak Allah SWT….



Kita harus memahami perkataan nabi ini dengan jernih, bahwasanya api itu terjadi

akibat adanya oksigen, dan oksigen ini di langit sudah tipis, syusah jikalau

hendak menyalakan api di langit, oksigen itu saat ini baru terbukti ada di bumi

ini saja, jadi kisah nabi itu harus kita sikapi dengan hati yang bersih, ikhlas

nan tulus, dan tidak boleh suudzon, menganggap nabi berbohong…



jadi jangan ditanyakan, apa asalnya api neraka yang telah dilihat oleh Nabi

besar junjungan kita Mohammad SAW, karena saya sendiri sudah cek ke langit ke 7,

bahwa Allah telah membuat teknologi tinggi LPG di langit berlantai 7. Kalau

bapak-bapak-ibu-ibu mulai meragukan apa asalnya api neraka di langit ke 7, maka

Allah akan menghukum bapak-bapak ibu-ibu kembali jadi monyet. "Jadi monyet

lu…..kun fayakun" demikian sabda Allah SWT……yang suka mainan kalkun

fayakun….



Bapak-bapak ibu-ibu sekalian, kita tahu di bulan ramadhan, syetan dan jin itu

diikat tangannya sehingga tidak menganggu kegiatan kita para muslimin dalam

menjalankan ibadah puasa. Bapak-bapak ibu-ibu sekalian, jadi ketika bulan

ramadhan, Allah itu mengirimkan jin, syetan, malaikat ke Blackhole, disanalah

tempat cahaya dan segala materi terperangkap gravitasi sehingga hampir tidak

bisa bergerak. Disanalah cahaya itu tidak bisa lewat, jadi kalau malaikat datang

ke blackhole, malaikat yang diceritakan nabi besar junjungan kita itu berasal

dari cahaya/nur juga tidak bisa lewat.



Bapak-bapak ibu-ibu sekalian, dari kisah suci nabi junjungan kita ini sudah

tampak jelas bahwa syetan dan jin, karena diciptakan dari api, maka hanya bisa

berada di bumi ini, dan untuk itu, jika bapak-bapak ibu-ibu tidak mau terganggu

oleh syaitan ni rodjim yang suka melempari batu kepada bapak-bapak ibu-ibu

(karena syetannya mengira yang syetan adalah bapak-bapak ibu-ibu sendiri, jadi

syetan teriak syetan), maka bapak-bapak ibu-ibu bisa segera hijrah ke bulan.

Disana Allah SWT tentu tidak bisa menciptakan syetan dan jin, karena di bulan

sampai sekarang belum ditemukan oksigennya.



***



Di bumi ini gravitasinya tidak begitu kuat, sehingga memang boleh dianggap

longgar, cahaya mudah merambat, suara mudah merambat, dan elektron mudah

bergerak.

Tapi hukum-hukum/law materi ternyata akan menjadi lain ketika dipindahkan

ketempat yang berbeda gravitasi. Inilah dasar prinsip-prinsip relativitas umum.



Kini kita semua sudah dewasa, dan mengetahui hukum pikiran.

1. Pikiran ternyata dibentuk

2. Yang membentuk pikiran kita ternyata obyek alam dan logik pikiran dibangun

atas dasar undang/hukum alam/law of nature.

3. Hukum-hukum alam/law of nature ternyata berbeda-beda dari tiap bintang/benda

langit, tergantung dari komposisi materi tiap benda langit itu sendiri.



Tapi kita ngotot….Tuhan itu ada, ….ya ada…darimana? dari pikiran kita

send

Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik PAREWA
Wah kalo ada orang dimilis ini yg tdk suka sama Suryana berarti tuh orang udah 
ngga beres. Walau suryana kristen, tapi dimata orang islam di milis ini ia 
dinilai terpelajar dan tidak busuk hati tukang fitnah macam nasarani grepe atau 
nasarani preman psikopat macam item abu. Salut Bung Sur!

--- Pada Jum, 15/4/11, widura  menulis:

Dari: widura 
Judul: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Jumat, 15 April, 2011, 2:41 PM

Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja nyuruh 
saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.  
-Original Message-
From: "Abbas" 
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37 
To: 
Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun dan cs 
> nya 
> adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> 
> Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> From: "bangmossad@..." 
> To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> 
>    
> Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya,   kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg yg 
> bukan yahudi, ya gitu... 
> 
> Yang ada mereka jadi sadis 
> Sent from my BlackBerry® 
> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: item abu  
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48 
> To:  
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> 
> Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ndeboost  
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM 
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> 
> 
> Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan 
> fitnah dan atau kriminal? 
> 
> Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi 
> kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu tak 
> parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost 
> hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank. 
> 
> Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan? 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote: 
> > 
> > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu sbg 
> kriminal? 
> > 
> > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu sesama 
> lu yg 
> > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu? 
> > 
> > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal 
> si 
> > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya malu 
> drpd 
> > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ 
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > 
> > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka  yg merasa dirinya adalah 
> seekor 
> > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu berfikirpun 
> > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad. 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®" 
> > cha6966@ wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah 
> > kandang dengan ukuran 
> > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun, 
> > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang. 
> > > 
> > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh 
> > 3-3,5m. 
> > > 
> > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari, 
> > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam 
> kandang 
> > kecil tanpa penutup. 
> > > 
> > > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi 
> > yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati. 
> > > 
> > > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya, 
> > > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat 
> > dasarnya. 
> > > 
> > > Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri 
> > sendiri. 
> > > 
> > > Nah... 
> > > 
> > > Ternyata banyak dari kita, 
> > > juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah, 
> fokus 
> > terus dengan masalah, mengeluh terus sampai akhirnya frustasi sendiri. 
> > > 
> > > Sadarilah bahwa jawaban dari masalah kita adalah selalu DIATAS, 
> yaitu 
> > > 
> > > TUHAN 
> > > 
> > > Menengadahlah, 
> > > Ucapkanlah doa, & lepas landaslah dalam BERTINDAK mencari solusi. 
> > > 
> > > LAKUKAN & LAKUKAN LAGI & TERUS BERJUANG !!! 
> > > 
> > > Keep fight !!! 
> > > 
> > > Keep Your Dreams !!! 
> > > 
> > > Be a Winner 

[proletar] Aljazeera: Thousands take to streets in Syria protests

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Sekali lagi, yang dituntut orang Syria adalah "Freedom" dan bukan syariah...

 --
 
Middle East
Thousands take to streets in Syria protests
Pro-democracy protesters reported in Daraa, Baniyas, Homs, Latakia, Deir ez Zor 
and suburbs of Damascus.
Last Modified: 15 Apr 2011 12:22


Pro-democracy protests have taken place in several cities in Syria, a day after 
Bashar al-Assad, the country's president, attempted to calm mounting opposition 
to his rule.

Around 2,500 people marched in the Syrian town of Daraa on Friday, chanting 
slogans calling for the "freedom" of the southern town, which has been the 
epicentre of protests against President Assad's rule.

"Between 2,500 and 3,000 people showed up at Al-Saraya area in the centre of 
the city, chanting slogans in favour of freedom and against the hostile 
regime," a human rights activist told the AFP news agency, speaking on 
condition of anonymity.

Protests are also under way in Baniyas, Homs, Latakia and Deir ez Zor, as well 
as in the Douma suburb of the capital Damascus.

Rula Amin, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Daraa, reported that the army and 
security forces were not visible in the city, and that the protesters were 
being allowed to hold their demonstration.

"It's a completely different scene from last Friday when more than 26 people 
were killed during protests and clashes with the security forces and protesters 
here. Today, no security forces are visible at all. People went after the 
Friday prayers ... in thousands. They were marching carrying olive branches 
saying 'peaceful, freedom'. Some were demanding the toppling of the regime, 
others were saying they just want reforms," she reported.

"It comes one day after they met with President Assad in an attempt by the 
government to calm the situation. Now here in Daraa, these measures seem to 
have calmed the situation a little bit. People say the president promised them 
very specific reforms that will be announced very soon, maybe as early as next 
week."

A large pro-democracy protest also took place in the city of Deir ez Zor, on 
the Euphrates river, while a smaller demonstration was reported in the Barzeh 
district of Damascus, Reuters reported.

In the coastal city of Baniyas, meanwhile, about 1,500 people chanted "freedom" 
after Friday prayers, despite the deployment of the army in the city as part of 
a deal to contain protests, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

The latest demonstrations come a day after the Syrian government announced an 
amnesty for scores of prisoners detained since protests began. President Assad 
has also unveiled a new cabinet, in a move to placate those calling for 
political changes.

Last Friday, Syrian security forces shot dead more than 26 people in Daraa 
after thousands of people staged pro-democracy rallies after midday prayers.

The protesters were killed when security forces opened fire with rubber bullets 
and live rounds to disperse stone-throwing protesters.

One of the key demands of the protesters has been the lifting of emergency law 
in the country, which has been in place since 1963.

Al Jazeera's Amin reported that the delegation from Daraa which met with the 
president was satisfied with his promises that the law would lifted in the 
coming weeks.

"According to the delegation that met with the president, he told them that 
[the emergency law] will be lifted.  They said it is going to be lifted by 
April 25, the deadline that the government had announced, and they are happy 
with that.

"They feel this is one of the major issues and the source of many of the 
problems. They are tired and have had enough of the security forces having a 
free hand in arresting people, putting them in prison without trial for years," 
she reported.
Source:
Al Jazeera and agencies






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[proletar] CNN: Gallery: Indonesia's tree of 1,000 uses

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Gallery: Indonesia's tree of 1,000 uses


When Alexander Haninuna was born, his first meal was the juice from a lontar 
palm in his backyard. When he dies, he will be buried in a coffin made from the 
wood of the same tree. 

And all through his life he will be indebted to this "tree of life" for everday 
products such as mats, containers for watering the garden, trays for winnowing 
rice, fans, umbrellas, belts, knife-sheaths, thatch, cigarette papers and even 
bags for transporting chickens to market.

Haninuna, now 49, lives on Roti, the southernmost island of the Indonesian 
archipelago and home to thousands of lontar palms, one of the planet's most 
efficient sugar-producing trees. 

Roti has suffered from surface erosion for many years, and in a great example 
of ecological efficiency the Rotinese have learnt to utilize the tens of 
thousands of lontar palms that have colonized their soil-depleted environment. 
Climbing trees not just for kids

Climbing and tapping the lontar is strictly a male activity and boys begin by 
practicing on shorter palms -- the trees can eventually grow to 30 meters -- at 
an early age.

>From the age of 15 if they climb and work hard, they can win the respect of 
>their family and community, and in particular the adoration of the opposite 
>sex. 

The treasured juice from the palm is called tuak manis, and forms a staple for 
the Rotinese, especially when other foods are unavailable. Two or three trees 
are enough to support a family -- each tree can yield 200-400 liters of juice 
each year for up to 35 years. 

Like most Rotinese men, Haninuna is an expert climber and has been scampering 
up and down these trees since he was a teenager. 

Because of the lontar, Roti and nearby Savu are the only islands in eastern 
Nusa Tenggara that do not experience lapar biasa -- the annual food shortage.
1,000 uses and counting

Roti island tree of life
The leaves of the lontar palm are also used to make ceremonial hats, as 
Alexander Haninuna wears here.
Tuak manis is the first nutrition that a newborn Rotinese baby receives, even 
before its mother's milk. And when a Rotinese dies, he or she will be buried in 
a coffin made from the hollowed-out trunk of the palm. 

Tuak manis can also be cooked to produce gula lempeng -- delicious biscuits of 
set brown sugar.

The leaves are never wasted. Houses are re-roofed every four to five years, and 
the old thatch is burnt in the garden to fertilize it. 

The lontar is also used to make hats called tilangga for different occasions, 
ranging from everyday use to celebrations.

The lontar leaf also provides the Rotinese with a unique musical instrument 
called the sasando; the leaf is fashioned into a hemispherical sounding board 
into which a copper-stringed bamboo tube is inserted, producing a harp-like 
sound when plucked.

When the "tree of life" finally becomes old and unproductive, the trunk, which 
is stronger than coconut, can be shaped into house beams, posts and rafters or 
hollowed out for coffins or pig-feeding troughs.

 

getting there

Access to Roti (also spelled Rote) is via Kupang in Timor. Merpati Airlines 
flies  from Jakarta and Denpasar (Bali) to Kupang (www.merpati.co.id). A 
passenger ferry sails daily between Kupang and Pantai Baru, a small 
mangrove-fringed bay on the northwestern side of Roti.

Public transport on Roti can be slow and unpredictable. If you are lucky you'll 
find a bus going in the right direction, otherwise the other main option is a 
truck. This is the stuff that adventurous travelers revel in. Seated on a 
wooden plank high in the back of a truck with pigs, chickens and villagers as 
fellow passengers, you'll get great views and make rewarding friendships.

Read more: Gallery: Indonesia's tree of 1,000 uses | CNNGo.com 
http://www.cnngo.com/explorations/life/indonesia-tree-1000-uses-419913?hpt=C2#ixzz1Jb2KpT6N






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Bls: [proletar] Re: dah saya betul2 cabut

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik PAREWA
bener wang jgn cabut. Si jusfiq mah atheist tolol gadang sarawa (pengecut) dan 
ngga beres otaknya. Entar lama2 juga mati sendiri. Sedang si item, sih udah 
terkenal sbg orang nasarani radikal psikopat yg ironisnya paling benci kalau 
ayat biblos dipostingin

--- Pada Rab, 13/4/11, Tawangalun  menulis:

Dari: Tawangalun 
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Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 13 April, 2011, 8:29 PM







 



  



  
  
  Habe,ini sudah yg kedua kali saya mo cabut soalnya saya dilarang duduk2 
satu majlis dg Yusfiq dan Item Abu Dapur.Nanti kalau Yusfiq sudah berani 
ngencingi Marlene saya janji mo balik lagi.Sekarang Good Bye dulu.Tapi pasti 
Yusfiq takut diusir oleh bininya nanti bisa2 kemah dia.



Shalom,

Tawangalun.



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Habe"  wrote:

>

> tawang,

> ente ngga perlu cabut dari sini

> sebab mereka si kuplik dan si item culun bakalan

> teriak teriak senang sekaligus bangga lantaran merasa menang

> 

> gue lebih rela berteman sama elu dari pada manusia dajal seperti mereka wang

> 

> para atheist bloon 

> 

> cmon wang, jangan minggat

> 

> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun"  wrote:

> >

> > Niat saya exit akirnya kulaksanakan juga sebab yg kudapat disini :

> > 

> > 1.Saya njur pinter misuh ketularan Yusfiq sama Item yg congornya memang 
> > trocoh.

> > 2.Dulu sudah kutuliskan bahwa FURQAN memang melarang saya  bersama wong 
> > Kafir yg clometan ttg FURQAN sementara kamu duduk2 disebelahnya.

> > 

> > Tapi di Zamanku saya masih seneng nulis disana ada moderator jadi rada 
> > punya aturan.

> > 

> > Shalom,

> > Tawangalun.

> >

>






 





 



  





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Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik PAREWA
ape gw bilang, si item kaga pasti marah dan menghindar kalau ayat biblos 
dipostingin. 
Ayo dah dipostingin aja terus.

--- Pada Jum, 15/4/11, item abu  menulis:

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Tanggal: Jumat, 15 April, 2011, 7:32 AM







 



  



  
  
  Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak.





From: ndeboost 

To: proletar@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM

Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam



Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan

fitnah dan atau kriminal?



Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi

kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu tak

parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost

hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank.



Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan?



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:

>

> Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu sbg

kriminal?

>

> Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu sesama

lu yg

> ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu?

>

> Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal

si

> tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya malu

drpd

> rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe...

>

>

>

>

>

>

> 

> From: ndeboost rambitesemak@...

> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM

> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

>

>

> Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka  yg merasa dirinya adalah

seekor

> elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu berfikirpun

> ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad.

> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®"

> cha6966@ wrote:

> >

> > Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah

> kandang dengan ukuran

> > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun,

> > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang.

> >

> > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh

> 3-3,5m.

> >

> > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari,

> > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam

kandang

> kecil tanpa penutup.

> >

> > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi

> yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati.

> >

> > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya,

> > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat

> dasarnya.

> >

> > Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri

> sendiri.

> >

> > Nah...

> >

> > Ternyata banyak dari kita,

> > juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah,

fokus

> terus dengan masalah, mengeluh terus sampai akhirnya frustasi sendiri.

> >

> > Sadarilah bahwa jawaban dari masalah kita adalah selalu DIATAS,

yaitu

> >

> > TUHAN

> >

> > Menengadahlah,

> > Ucapkanlah doa, & lepas landaslah dalam BERTINDAK mencari solusi.

> >

> > LAKUKAN & LAKUKAN LAGI & TERUS BERJUANG !!!

> >

> > Keep fight !!!

> >

> > Keep Your Dreams !!!

> >

> > Be a Winner !!!

> >

> > You are the CHAMPION

> >

> > God Bless U all my friends..

> >

> > Selamat Malam...

> >

> > Good Night.

> >

> >

> > Ch@​​™

> > pin:21EF6D92

> > Charles Asiku

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Charles Asiku

> >

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>



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[proletar] Bayi Berkepala Katak Gegerkan Kota Kupang

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
Refl: Akibat gangguan Iblis al Seythan?

http://www.mediaindonesia.com/read/2011/04/15/218293/290/101/-Bayi-Berkepala-Katak-Gegerkan-Kota-Kupang


Bayi Berkepala Katak Gegerkan Kota Kupang 


Penulis : Palce Amalo
Jumat, 15 April 2011 17:27 WIB 




KUPANG--MICOM: Warga Kelurahan Fatululi, Kota Kupang, Nusa Tenggara Timur 
(NTT), Jumat (15/4), petang geger setelah seorang wanita di kelurahan itu 
melahirkan seorang bayi yang memiliki kepala menyerupai katak. 

Mata bayi terlihat lebih besar dari bayi umumnya dan terletak di bagian kepala. 
Kelainan lain pada bayi itu ialah memiliki dua alat kelamin yakni pria dan 
wanita. Yatri, 17, sang ibu bayi mengaku tidak ada tanda-tanda bayinya bakal 
lahir menyerupai katak. 

"Saat lahir sudah dalam kondisi tewas," katanya. 

Setelah beredar kabar bayi lahir berkepala katak, warga di wilayah itu 
berdatangan ke rumah pasangan suami isteri Elson dan Yeni yang terletak di 
bagian timur Pasar Tradisional Oebobo untuk menyaksikan bayi dari dekat. Mereka 
memotret sang bayi menggunakan kamera ponsel. 

Beberapa jam kemudian atas bantuan bidan setempat, mayat bayi kemudian dibawa 
ke Rumah Sakit (RS) WZ Johannes, sebelum kemudian dibawa pulang ke rumah untuk 
dikuburkan. Kasus bayi berkepala katak tersebut merupakan kasus pertama yang 
terjadi di NTT. (OL-12) 

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[proletar] Asal-Usul-Usil Pikiran 3 (kotbah jumat 26 februari 2010)

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik wawan

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Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:58 pm

Asal-Usul-Usil Pikiran 3 (kotbah jumat 26 februari 2010)



"Nak lihatlah meja didepanmu, mengapa meja itu bisa ada?" tanya seorang ayah…
"karena ayah yang beli" jawab anak

"ayah beli dari siapa?" tanya sang ayah
"ya dari pedagang meja, masak pedagang sapi sih yah" jawab sang anak

"pedagangnya beli dari siapa?" tanya sang ayah
"ya dari pembuat meja yah" jawab sang anak

"ya…itulah meja ….ada di hadapanmu karena ada yang membuatnya, demikian juga
ni didepan kamu, ada teh karena ayah yang membuatnya, dan juga ….kamu berada
di dunia ini hasil ayah salah menempatkan burung" kata sang ayah

"jadi semua yang ada di dunia ini, adalah diciptakan….dan pasti ada yang
menciptakan" tambah sang ayah…

Contoh diatas merupakan
premis-premis pemikiran kita yang takhyul, inilah pemikiran kita yang kuno,
inilah pemikiran kita yang semrawut…

hal-hal seperti ini memang cocok dijejalkan buat anak kecil…

tapi tuan-tuan pembaca….kita semua sudah berumur, setidaknya dari kita semua
sudah pernah melakukan masturbasi…ya apa nggak? ayo ngaku…

jadi kalo kita sudah dewasa, jangan lagi berpikir seperti anak kecil….mari
kita coba lagi cermati permainan pemikiran-pemikiran diatas.

Tukang meja pada dasarnya tidak mencipta kayu, tapi yang benar adalah
mengkomposisikan (buat bonek milis proletar, kompositor ato komposer jangan
diperdebatkan yah) atau merakit kayu.

Demikian juga teh ada didepan kita bukan karena diciptakan, tapi kita racik dari
bahan-bahan material alam…

demikian juga dengan tuan-tuan pembaca, ada dan lahir tidak semata-mata salah
ayah menempatkan burung, tapi tuan pembaca ada karena bertemunya sel sperma ibu
dan ayah, lalu ibu mengkonsumsi material sebagai makanan, sehingga berkembanglah
tuan-tuan pembaca sebagai janin, lalu pada saatnya lahir, maka terjadi
kelahiran.

Setelah tuan-tuan pembaca lahir, tuan-tuan pembaca juga butuh material, makanan,
minuman, dan juga air susu ibu yang tuan perebutkan bersama ayah tuan, karena
ayah tuan juga selalu butuh air susu ibu, karena enak..sih…

Singkatnya, pertumbuhan tuan-tuan pembaca sekalian karena tuan-tuan sekalian
memasukan materi alam, tepatnya makanan minuman dll, etc, dlsb….sehingga
membuat materi biologis tuan-tuan pembaca tumbuh dan berkembang.

Begitu pula dengan hewan dan tanaman, tanaman itu berkembang karena mengambil
sari patinya tanah (material tanah) untuk bisa tumbuh.

Jadi ini semua hanya masalah perpindahan materi saja, jadi yang ada di bumi
hanya masalah meracik materi saja. Sesungguhnya tidak ada penciptaan sama
sekali.
Coba tuan sebutkan, satu saja, apakah ada hal di dunia ini yang
diciptakan?……nah tuan sudah besar…dan mulai paham, bahwa ternyata yang ada
adalah peracikan/pengkomposisian materi alam dan bukan penciptaan.

Nah…tuan sudah besar..dan mulai paham, bahwa premis-premis penciptaan itu
ternyata menjadi fallacy dalam ilmu logika, tepatnya karena salah pengamatan.

Kini tuan mulai pahami, bahwa logika penciptaan itu karena salah premis sehingga
mengakibatkan salah berpikir.

***
Grand Design…

Tuan sudah pandai…
pandai berhitung…dan juga tuan mulai mampu mendesign sesuatu….

tuan adalah seorang tukang kayu…dengan cermat dan teliti ingin membuat meja,
panjang meja 1 meter, lebarnya 0.5 meter, dan tingginya 0,5 meter pula.
Meja selesai dibuat….lalu tuan bangga….inilah meja yang saya design dengan
cermat dan teliti……tepat dengan segala hitungan tuan, karena tuan lulusan
profesor bidang studi nuklir dari universitas harvard zimbabwe…jadi kita tidak
patut mempertanyakan keahlian tuan membuat meja kayu lagi, karena gelar tuan
sudah menunjukan siapa tuan.

Mari kita ambil skala pengukur yang cermat dan kita tandai waktu pengukuran,
yalah 26 februari 2010, ohhh…tuan….ternyata panjang meja tuan adalah 101
centi meter, lebarnya ternyata cuman 49,0004 centimeter, dan tingginya ternyata
51,0675638 centi meter.

Lalu kita ukur lagi meja tuan profesor nuklir universitas harvard zimbabwe,
ternyata pada tanggal 27 feburari 2010, panjang meja menjadi 101,3 cm,
lebar meja menjadi 49.00043 cm, dan tingginya menjadi 51,0676543 centi meter

ah…tuan…
Meja ini seperti burung tuan, kadang bisa panjang, dan kadang bisa mengkeret….

ternyata design meja tuan profesor nuklir lulusan harvard zimbabwe tidak pernah
bisa tepat dalam skala kecil hitungan….

tuan profesor nuklir harvard zimbabwe belum membaca filsafat materialisme
dialektik dari Tuan Lenin, bahwasanya materi berdialektika…dan selalu
bergerak….seperti burung tuan profesor, bisa mengekeret dan bisa memanjang,
sesuai situasi alam, dan juga terpengaruh kelembaban.

jadi tuan, ….secanggih-canggihnya anda mendesign, ternyata design anda tidak
pernah sesuai kenyataan hitungan dengan persis….meski tuan sudah memakai
superkomputer IBM yang mengalahkan main caturnya Garry Kasparov.

Nah…begitulah tuan-tuan pembaca, karena manusia mempunyai keahlian design,
maka dari premis bahwa manusia bisa mendesign, maka tercipta pikiran bah

[proletar] Ratusan Senjata Api Konflik Maluku Dimusnahkan

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny

http://www.mediaindonesia.com/read/2011/04/15/218231/290/101/Ratusan-Senjata-Api-Konflik-Maluku-Dimusnahkan


Ratusan Senjata Api Konflik Maluku Dimusnahkan 
Penulis : Hamdi Jempot
Jumat, 15 April 2011 17:59 WIB 

MI/Hamdi Jempot/wt

AMBON--MICOM: Kodam Pattimura, Jumat (15/4) memusnahkan 476 pucuk senjata api 
rakitan berbagai jenis di Lapangan Merdeka, Ambon. Senjata yang dimusnahkan 
itu, 324 pucuk laras panjang dan 152 pucuk laras pendek berbagai jenis. 

Panglima Komando Daerah Militer (Pangdam) Pattimura Mayjen Suharsono menyatakan 
senjata yang dimusnahkan merupakan hasil penyerahan warga di Pulau Ambon dan 
sekitarnya dalam setahun terakhir. 

Pangdam menambahkan total senjata yang diserahkan adalah 530 pucuk. Dari jumlah 
itu, 54 merupakan organik buatan Eropa. "Yang rakitan kita musnahkan, sedangkan 
yang organik kita serahkan ke komando atas," kata Pangdam. 

Pemusnahan senjata tersebut dihadiri Gubernur Maluku Karel Albert Ralahalu, 
Kapolda Maluku Brigjen Syarif Gunawan, dan pimpinan umat beragama di Maluku 
serta sejumlah raja atau kepala desa di Pulau Ambon. 

Khusus untuk senjata organik, Pangdam mengaku belum dapat memastikan dari mana 
asal-usulnya, apakah milik Polri yang gudang senjatanya di Asrama Brimob Polda 
Maluku terbakar saat kerusuhan Ambon beberapa tahun silam. Pangdam juga 
mengakui senjata yang dimusnahkan dan diserahkan warga tersebut merupakan 
sisa-sisa konflik Maluku. 

Pangdam meminta kepada warga di Maluku yang masih menyimpan senjata api dapat 
menyerahkannya kepada aparat keamanan. "Kalau orang menyimpan senjata hanya 
membesarkan rasa dengki. Karena itu bisa timbul hal-hal negatif. Untuk itu saya 
mengimbau warga yang masih menyimpan senjata dapat menyerahkan kepada aparat 
keamanan. Menyimpan senjata merupakan pelanggaran hukum," katanya.(HJ/OL-04) 

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[proletar] Kebusukan di Senayan

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.mediaindonesia.com/read/2011/04/15/218060/70/13/Kebusukan-di-Senayan-


Kebusukan di Senayan 

Jumat, 15 April 2011 00:00 WIB 
KENEKATAN DPR melanjutkan pembangunan gedung baru kian membuat publik geram. 
Saking geramnya, mereka berbondong-bondong melakukan gugatan ke pengadilan. 

Pihak yang digugat terutama Ketua DPR Marzuki Alie dan Presiden Susilo Bambang 
Yudhoyono. Keduanya dianggap paling bertanggung jawab atas kelanjutan proses 
pembangunan gedung baru DPR meski arus penolakan publik begitu kuat. 

DPR, sejak reformasi 1998, memang tidak lagi sebagai lembaga onderbouw 
eksekutif seperti di zaman Orde Baru. DPR telah berubah menjadi pusat kekuasaan 
yang bahkan melebihi kekuasaan eksekutif dan yudikatif. 

Dengan kekuasaannya itu, DPR sekarang seenaknya melahirkan segala kenikmatan 
dan kemewahan. Rencana pembangunan gedung baru di Senayan yang menelan biaya 
Rp1,1 triliun itu hanyalah sebagian contoh bagaimana mereka yang mengaku 
sebagai wakil rakyat itu begitu mudah menghambur-hamburkan uang rakyat, 
sekaligus juga contoh bagaimana mereka lebih mengutamakan kemewahan ketimbang 
memperhatikan kesengsaraan rakyat. 

Di gedung baru DPR itu, setiap anggota DPR plus enam stafnya nanti akan 
menghuni ruang seluas sekitar 120 meter persegi seharga lebih dari Rp800 juta. 
Itu setara dengan harga apartemen mewah di Jakarta. 
Gedung baru DPR itu juga lebih wah daripada gedung lembaga negara yang mana pun 
karena akan dilengkapi fasilitas mewah seperti kolam renang, fitness centre, 
spa, pijat refleksi, pertokoan, koperasi, apotek, dan fasilitas lain. Ia memang 
lebih mirip kompleks hunian mewah ketimbang kantor legislatif. 

Padahal, anggota DPR telah memperoleh berbagai kenikmatan. Mulai dari renovasi 
rumah dinas, gaji, uang sidang, pelesiran, dan berbagai bentuk kenikmatan lain. 

Lantas mengapa pemerintah seakan tidak berdaya menyetop nafsu DPR membangun 
gedung baru itu? Jawabannya sederhana. Setiap pengesahan RAPBN atau RAPBN 
perubahan selalu sarat dengan patgulipat. 

Publik tentu belum melupakan ketika DPR mengesahkan RAPBN Perubahan 2010 
kendati anggaran yang disodorkan pemerintah tanpa disertai rincian program. 
Sebab, dalam RAPBN Perubahan 2010 terdapat anggaran sebesar Rp1,1 triliun untuk 
sebelas komisi di DPR, yang juga tanpa rincian program. 

Pembangunan gedung baru DPR itu jelas menambah dahsyat kebusukan wakil rakyat. 
Celakanya, yang dinilai busuk itu tetap merasa diri terhormat dan bahkan 
semakin gila hormat. Amit-amit 

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[proletar] Masturbasi Pikiran 2…

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik wawan
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Masturbasi Pikiran 2

Bapak-bapak ibu-ibu yang terhormat, yang telah diberi ketulusan hati dari
sononya, untuk datang ke pengajian mesjid milis saritem bandung,
saya AA Wawan Al-Kafirun Jaya, yang baru saja kawin lagi, habis kawin lagi itu
rasanya gimana githc……mak nyuss dah pokoknya…..
masak mobil saya saja bisa baru…tapi istri nggak bisa ditukar jenis yang
baru….itu namanya melanggar hukum Allah kalau semuanya tidak diperbaharui…..

jadi begitulah bapak-bapak ibu-ibu, Allah menghendaki bahwa segalanya kudu
diperbaharui, terutama pikiran-pikiran kita….

kita ucapkan salam dulu kepada kanjeng Nabi Mohammad Rasul Allah, yang telah
menceritakan kepada kita, tentang alam ini….

dalam benak kita, masih kita ingat ucapan Rasul yang terakhir dan sempurna…

Ya Nabi….jin dan syetan terbuat dari apa ya kanjeng nabi ngganteng yang
dicintai para istri-istrinya?

"Jin dan syetan berasal dari api" jawab nabi ngganteng

Ya Nabi….malaikat terbuat dari apa ya kanjeng nabi ngganteng penguasa tanah
arab abad ke 6???

"malaikat berasal dari cahaya atau nur" jawab Nabi junjungan kita…

Nabi junjungan kita konon naik bouraq dan isra miraj ke langit ke 7…

diceritakannya kepada kita semua hamba Allah dan penjunjung tinggi nabi besar
terakhir dan sempurna, bahwa di langit ke 7, nabi kita melihat panasnya api
neraka, api neraka itu panas, apinya menjilat-jilat ke seluruh tubuh kita,
seperti jilatannya maria ozawa pela…dari bawah ujung kuku kaki…sampai
ujung rambut anda…..sehingga saking hotnya membuat tubuh kita
menggelinjang-gelinjang gimana gitchu…….demikian nabi kita menceritakan
kisah mirajnya…..

Untuk itu mari kita memahami kisah nabi ini dengan hati terbuka yang telah tulus
bersih menerima kesucian kehendak Allah SWT….

Kita harus memahami perkataan nabi ini dengan jernih, bahwasanya api itu terjadi
akibat adanya oksigen, dan oksigen ini di langit sudah tipis, syusah jikalau
hendak menyalakan api di langit, oksigen itu saat ini baru terbukti ada di bumi
ini saja, jadi kisah nabi itu harus kita sikapi dengan hati yang bersih, ikhlas
nan tulus, dan tidak boleh suudzon, menganggap nabi berbohong…

jadi jangan ditanyakan, apa asalnya api neraka yang telah dilihat oleh Nabi
besar junjungan kita Mohammad SAW, karena saya sendiri sudah cek ke langit ke 7,
bahwa Allah telah membuat teknologi tinggi LPG di langit berlantai 7. Kalau
bapak-bapak-ibu-ibu mulai meragukan apa asalnya api neraka di langit ke 7, maka
Allah akan menghukum bapak-bapak ibu-ibu kembali jadi monyet. "Jadi monyet
lu…..kun fayakun" demikian sabda Allah SWT……yang suka mainan kalkun
fayakun….

Bapak-bapak ibu-ibu sekalian, kita tahu di bulan ramadhan, syetan dan jin itu
diikat tangannya sehingga tidak menganggu kegiatan kita para muslimin dalam
menjalankan ibadah puasa. Bapak-bapak ibu-ibu sekalian, jadi ketika bulan
ramadhan, Allah itu mengirimkan jin, syetan, malaikat ke Blackhole, disanalah
tempat cahaya dan segala materi terperangkap gravitasi sehingga hampir tidak
bisa bergerak. Disanalah cahaya itu tidak bisa lewat, jadi kalau malaikat datang
ke blackhole, malaikat yang diceritakan nabi besar junjungan kita itu berasal
dari cahaya/nur juga tidak bisa lewat.

Bapak-bapak ibu-ibu sekalian, dari kisah suci nabi junjungan kita ini sudah
tampak jelas bahwa syetan dan jin, karena diciptakan dari api, maka hanya bisa
berada di bumi ini, dan untuk itu, jika bapak-bapak ibu-ibu tidak mau terganggu
oleh syaitan ni rodjim yang suka melempari batu kepada bapak-bapak ibu-ibu
(karena syetannya mengira yang syetan adalah bapak-bapak ibu-ibu sendiri, jadi
syetan teriak syetan), maka bapak-bapak ibu-ibu bisa segera hijrah ke bulan.
Disana Allah SWT tentu tidak bisa menciptakan syetan dan jin, karena di bulan
sampai sekarang belum ditemukan oksigennya.

***

Di bumi ini gravitasinya tidak begitu kuat, sehingga memang boleh dianggap
longgar, cahaya mudah merambat, suara mudah merambat, dan elektron mudah
bergerak.
Tapi hukum-hukum/law materi ternyata akan menjadi lain ketika dipindahkan
ketempat yang berbeda gravitasi. Inilah dasar prinsip-prinsip relativitas umum.

Kini kita semua sudah dewasa, dan mengetahui hukum pikiran.
1. Pikiran ternyata dibentuk
2. Yang membentuk pikiran kita ternyata obyek alam dan logik pikiran dibangun
atas dasar undang/hukum alam/law of nature.
3. Hukum-hukum alam/law of nature ternyata berbeda-beda dari tiap bintang/benda
langit, tergantung dari komposisi materi tiap benda langit itu sendiri.

Tapi kita ngotot….Tuhan itu ada, ….ya ada…darimana? dari pikiran kita
sendiri ….dari manakah kita kenal tuhan dari pola pikir agama, tapi pola
pikir agama itu sendiri tidak bisa berlaku di benda langit lainnya, jadi apakah
tiap-tiap benda langit mempunyai tuhan sendiri-sendiri???

wallahuallam…..

berangkat dari sini mari mulai sekarang kita sadari, api tidak bisa ada di
blackhole, demikian juga cahaya, jadi malaikat dan jin diblackhole nggak b

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[proletar] si super debil, Vittorio Arrigoni

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik kim
Banyak didunia ini orang-orang ber-kategor rada debil, super debil dan ultra 
debil. Ambil contoh orang satu ini, kelahiran Italia, Vittorio Arrigoni. 
Aktifis berat dan pembela kasus Palestina.

Saking cintanya arep, dia ditato dibawah kelek, dengan aksara arep. Semasa
hidupnya buka congor lebar-lebar buat mengutuk Israel, dan bungkam jika
arep naroh bom dibawah jok bis kota di Israel.

Kemarin hari itu si Vittorio Arrigoni dicacag oleh golongan Salafist pro
Al Qaeda. Pasalnya Salafist lagi barter tahanan sama Hammas heu heu
Salfist bilang sama Hammas, kalo gak kluarin sanderaan anggota Salafist
si Vittorio Arrigoni ini yg jadi maenan. Ya dicacag  heu heu, wah edhan seh !

Rupanya Hammas lagi duel cpngor sama Salafis. Ini menandakan cecunguk
Islamist itu lagi perang internal. Seperti saya bilang, Islam itu babi, babi
belula !

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[proletar] sejarah revolutie ndonesia...

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik wawan
reposting:
saya baca posting lama-lama saya, ngakak sendiri :-))

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/249716

sejarah revolutie ndonesia...

tak coba runtutkan sejarah indonesia...

awalnya belanda datang, nggebuki raja-raja kecil di daerah, seperti medan, aceh,
jawa, ternate...

lalu belanda sudah punya bentuk daerah kekuasaan baru namanya hindia belanda

di saat itu, raja-raja yang sudah takluk dan rakyat ya gak ngerti belanda ini
mau diapakan...orang yang digebuki belanda sudah nggak punya pilihan...dan juga
nggak ngerti cara melawan...

lalu belanda punya politik etis, yaitu mendidik para orang berbakat di indonesia
seperti soekarno, syahrir, hatta, atau tan malaka.

soekarno sekolah di indische hoogeschool atau ITB

nah ditahun 1917...ada pesta orang-orang kere/orang miskin menang atas revolusi
kerajaan tsar di Soviet...

Tsar sang penguasa russia yang gede wilayahnya sak hohah/besar sekali itu
ditembak di yekaterinburg...oleh para orang kere/orang miskin...

penggeraknya adalah Lenin, makanya dia diangkat sebagai bapak buruh/bapak orang
kere...
nabi musanya tak lain adalah Karl Marx...

jadi Karl Marx dan Engels yang punya ide...
Rosa luxemburgo coba praktek di jerman malah ketembak (kalo jesus kesalib)

Lenin yang praktek dan sukses (kayak mohammad)

tahun 1917 itu dunia tersentak, karena ada revolusi sosial kelas bawah, artinya
mereka kaget bahwa ada gerakan besar menjatuhkan kekuasaan Tsar...

itu membuat seluruh dunia tersentak...terjadi eforia kelas buruh di seluruh
dunia, tak lepas dari belanda, prancis, jerman segera muncul partai komunis

revolusi sosial di russia itu slogannya anti kapitalisme, anti kolonialisme,
anti liberalisme...

ini semua kamusnya orang-orang soviet...

buku-buku perlawanan atau das kapital juga sudah masuk ke indonesia di tahun
1920-an...

sebagai seorang intelektual, tentu orang-orang macam soekarno langsung melahap
buku-buku tersebut


lalu tan malaka di belanda dan henk sneevliet langsung bergabung ke partai
komunis.

Henk datang ke hindia belanda...dan mendidik semaun, darsono, alimin, musso...

tan malaka sempat kursus ke Soviet dulu...baru pulang ke Indonesia..

di Soviet dia kursus 3 mata kuliah...
a. mata kuliah anti kolonialisme
b. mata kuliah anti kapitalisme
c. mata kuliah anti imperialisme

di Soviet juga dikursusi menggerakan revolusi atau perlawanan, makanya Tan
malaka nulis buku Massa actie...

sepulang dari Soviet, Tan Malaka langsung bergerak, dan salah satunya ketemu
tokoh lokal bernama Soekarno...

yang nyeritani ttg cara-cara revolusi terhadap soekarno itu yah tan malaka.

jadi kalo Islam masuk ke Indonesia itu dibawa pedagang gujarat...
sedang kristen masuk ke indonesia dibawa oleh belanda dan pastor jerman di
medan...

sedangkan kamus perlawanan atau revolusi itu "mekahnya" adalah Moscow...dan
dibawa ke indonesia oleh tan malaka dan henk sneevliet...

ini semua tak lepas dari "kesalahan" politik etis belanda sendiri...

gara-gara menyekolahkan tan malaka ke harleem...

nggak disangka-sangka orang ini menggerakan revolusi indonesia dan menyusun
konsep republik indonesia dan perlawanan terhadap belanda...

jadi kalo mau belajar "revolutie" yah anda harus segera "naik haji" ke moscow...

salah satu ibadahnya bisa mengunjungi jasad lenin di mausoleum...yang masih
dirawat baik-baik..

dan juga jangan lupa main tetris sehari minimal 5x...agar otak anda tetap
terlatih...

itu semua dapat pahala dari nabi marx dan nabi lenin...

marx=moses/musa
rosa luxemburgo=jesus
lenin=mohammad

---
yang ini juga saya ralat, partai komunis itu ada dulu, karena saya ingat Karl
Marx pernah menyurati/memperingatkan partai komunis di prancis...artinya partai
komunis sudah ada sejak jamannya Karl Marx.

baru partai komunis ini menjadi radikal atau berjiwa "revolutie" ketika terjadi
revolusi russia yang berhasil...

Karl Marx dan Engels yang membuat konsep, Lenin yang melengkapi konsep dan
mengimplementasi dengan jiwa radikal terhadap revolusi Russia.

keberhasilan bolshewik ini memicu eforia partai komunis di seluruh dunia,dan
diantaranya membuat semangat bolshewik 1926 di Indonesia yang dipelopori oleh
alimin, musso, darsono. Tapi gagal, dan akibatnya banyak yang dibuang ke boven
digul.





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[proletar] Kompas: Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa
Doddy Wisnu Pribadi | yuli | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 00:30 WIB
Dibaca: 10975


MALANG, KOMPAS.com — Massa yang tidak diketahui identitasnya membongkar gereja 
yang belum selesai dibangun di Dukuh Ubalan, Desa Pamotan, Kecamatan Dampit, 
Kabupaten Malang, Jawa Timur.

Peristiwanya terjadi pada Kamis (14/4/2011) sore di desa yang dikenal sering 
ada konflik masalah perkebunan itu. Desa ini berjarak 38 km di selatan Kota 
Malang, atau 4 km dari jalur jalan provinsi Malang-Lumajang. Untuk mencapai 
lokasi itu, mesti melintasi persawahan dan areal perkebunan karena berada di 
pedesaan.

Saat diamati pada pukul 22.00, bangunan baru gereja itu masih utuh. Hanya saja, 
sebagian dinding sudah berlubang, atau terbongkar, menurut penuturan orang yang 
menjadi bagian kerumuan massa di jalan masuk menuju gereja.

Meski banyak orang di antara kerumunan, tidak ada seorang pun yang bersedia 
menjelaskan duduk ceritanya dengan mengaku identitasnya.

Aparat kepolisian dari Mapolsek Dampit sudah berada di lokasi saat aksi massa 
terjadi, tetapi pada pukul 22.00 sudah tidak berada di lokasi. Warga tampak 
berjaga-jaga di sudut-sudut jalan.

Namun, tidak ada seorang pun yang bersedia untuk memberikan keterangan. Aparat 
Polsek dan TNI, dilaporkan warga, semula tampak berada di tempat kejadian.
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Re: [proletar] Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang + Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik widura
Duh duh duhhhmasih aja ribut urusan agama...mau sampe kapan damainya 
???kalo diperhatikan, saat orang sedang tidak mendekatkan diri atau 
memikirkan agama, sibuk dgn pekerjaan dll, rasa benci terhadap penganut agama 
lainnya jadi terlupakan...
-Original Message-
From: "sunny" 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:45:30 
To: 
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Subject: [proletar] Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang + Gereja Baru di 
Malang Dibongkar Massa

Refleksi : Beginilah negara Neo-Mojophatit. Nasrani disikat, Ahmadiyah 
diganyang, sekarang giliran kaum Syiah,  ayo besok lusa siap yang akan 
menyusul? Masih tidurkah atau ngantukah Anda? 

http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/14/06270810/Ditekan.Kaum.Syiah.Madura.Siap.Hengkang


Keberagaman

Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang
K17-11 | yuli | Kamis, 14 April 2011 | 06:27 WIB 

K17-11 Kegiatan di kompleks Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI) Tajul 
Muluk, Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang, Madura, Jawa 
Timur berjalan seperti biasa meski ketuanya ditahan di Mapolres Sampang. 

T
SAMPANG, KOMPAS.com - Kaum Islam berhaluan Syiah di Sampang, Madura, Jawa 
Timur, tetap menjalankan ibadahnya meski ketua mereka, Tajul Muluk, diamankan 
polisi sejak 4 April 2011 lalu.

""Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi mempertahankan keyakinan kami. 
Asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab. 
-- Tajul Muluk, pemuka Syiah di Sampang ""
Mereka berhimpun dalam Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI), yang 
kegiatannya berpusat di Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang.

Menjelang ketuanya diamankan, ribuan orang dari enam desa berencana menyerang 
kediaman Tajul Muluk yang juga pusat kegiatan IJABI. Kini, kegiatan di rumah 
Tajul Muluk berjalan seperti biasanya.

Para santrinya tetap menjalankan aktivitasnya seperti sekolah, shalat 
berjemaah, dan pengajian. Tidak tampak ada ketegangan antara masyarakat sekitar 
dan penghuni kompleks IJABI.

Tajul Muluk saat dihubungi melalui telepon selulernya, Rabu (13/4/2011), 
mengaku ingin segera ke rumahnya dan menjalankan kegiatan seperti biasanya. Dia 
beranggapan, aktivitasnya sebagai penyebar faham Syiah sama sekali tidak 
bertentangan dengan undang-undang.

Bahkan, ia mengaku kecewa dengan sikap para pemuka agama Sampang yang sudah 
menganggapnya sesat. Padahal, Syiah adalah salah satu aliran dalam Islam yang 
berkembang di Indonesia sejak lama.

"Kalau perbedaan jangan dicari-cari, sebab tidak akan pernah ada titik temunya. 
Tetapi, persamaannya yang perlu kita jaga sehingga keyakinan dalam beragama 
bisa berjalan seiring bersama," kata Tajul Muluk.

Terkait dengan adanya ultimatum dari Badan Silaturrahim Ulama Madura (Basra) 
agar dirinya bersama lebih dari 100 jemaahnya segera hengkang dari Sampang, 
pria yang pernah mengaji di Yayasan Pendidikan Islam (YAPI) Bangil, Pasuruan, 
Jawa Timur, ini menyatakan tidak keberatan.

Ia hanya mematok syarat agar semua asetnya diberi ganti rugi dan pengikutnya 
harus ikut bersamanya. "Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi mempertahankan 
keyakinan kami, asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab," terang Tajul.

Sementara Alimullah (19), penanggung jawab kegiatan di kompleks IJABI, 
mengatakan siap hengkang bersama gurunya ke mana pun pergi. Bahkan, 
santri-santrinya juga akan dibawa serta.

"Ke mana pun ustaz pergi, kami akan selalu mengikutinya," katanya. Namun, Tajul 
berharap itu tidak terjadi. Dirinya menginginkan duduk bersama untuk mencarikan 
solusi yang terbaik.

"Saya masih percaya ada solusi jika semua pihak, termasuk keamanan, mau membuka 
dialog," terangnya.

Lazim diketahui, meskipun berkembang sejak lama di Indonesia, Syiah tetap 
minoritas. Tokoh besar Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), almarhum KH Abdurrahman Wahid (Gus 
Dur) adalah pendekar demokrasi terakhir yang gigih membela hak keberagamaan 
mereka. 

ERKAIT:

  a.. Desa Kaum Syiah Diserbu, 200 Tertembak
  b.. Ratusan Ribu Syiah Melawan Rezim Sunni
  c.. 3 Bom Mobil Tewaskan 12 Orang di Karbala
  d.. Parade Syiah Digranat, 1 Bayi Tewas
  e.. Bus Peziarah Syiah Dibom, 5 Orang Tewas

http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/15/00302669/Gereja.Baru.di.Malang.Dibongkar.Massa

Kemajemukan

Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa
Doddy Wisnu Pribadi | yuli | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 00:30 WIB 
MALANG, KOMPAS.com - Massa yang tidak diketahui identitasnya membongkar gereja 
yang belum selesai dibangun di Dukuh Ubalan, Desa Pamotan, Kecamatan Dampit, 
Kabupaten Malang, Jawa Timur.

Peristiwanya terjadi pada Kamis (14/4/2011) sore di desa yang dikenal sering 
ada konflik masalah perkebunan itu. Desa ini berjarak 38 km di selatan Kota 
Malang, atau 4 km dari jalur jalan provinsi Malang-Lumajang. Untuk mencapai 
lokasi itu, mesti melintasi persawahan dan areal perkebunan karena berada di 
pedesaan.

Saat diamati pada pukul 22.00, bangunan baru gereja itu masih utuh. Hanya saja, 
sebagian dinding sudah berlubang, atau terbongkar, menuru

[proletar] Re: welkam ( Uriah Heep ) - ralat

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik kim
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "suryana"  wrote:
>
> Boss bahas mengenai Uriah Heep dong, aku lupa lupa ingat nih. lagu beken nya 
> judul apa ?
> 
> sur.

Hmm...

Di tanah Inggris itu cuma ada dua jenis yg pengaruhi meng-kompositor
permusikan. Daerah industri seperti pabrik baja, batubara menhasilkan
musik metal, underground.

Sedangkan daerah London yang notabene anak-anak manja, mengha-
silkan musik cengeng spt Rolling Stone, Queen, Kink, The animals dll.

Okeh ?





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[proletar] Re: welkam ( Uriah Heep )

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik kim
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "suryana"  wrote:
> Boss bahas mengenai Uriah Heep dong, aku lupa lupa ingat nih. lagu 
>beken nya judul apa ?
> sur.

Hmm...

Di tanah Inggris itu cuma ada dua jenis yg pengaruhi meng-kompostior
permusikan. Daerah industri seperti  pabrik baja, batubara menhasilkan
musik metal, underground.

Sedangkan daerah London yang notabene anak-anak manja, mengha-
silkan musik cengeng spt Rolling Stone, Queen, Kink, The animals dll.

Okeh ?







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[proletar] Suicide bomber targets Indonesia mosque

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
Refleksi : NKRI dipakistanisasikan ataukah sendiwara belakang layar dinas 
rahasia rezim untuk mengalihkan perhatian umum dari antara lain masalah 
koruspsi penguasa yang mengakibatkasn kesulitan abadi hidup sehari-hari bagi 
kebanyakan rakyat? 

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2011/04/201141565047518538.html


Suicide bomber targets Indonesia mosque 
Suspected suicide attacker killed and at least 17 others injured at a mosque in 
a police compound, police say.
Last Modified: 15 Apr 2011 08:26 

A bomb explosion outside a mosque in the Indonesian town of Cirebon has killed 
at least one person and wounded at least 17 others, police have told Al Jazeera.

"A man has blown himself up ... the police is talking about a suicide bomber 
during Friday prayers in the mosque at the police station in Cirebon in West 
Java. The mosque was full of police officers at the time of the explosion," Al 
Jazeera's Step Vaessen reported from Jakarta, the Indonesian capital.

Hospital sources told Al Jazeera that 17 people were injured in the attack, 
including the local police chief.

Yeni Rahmawati, a hospital spokeswoman, said that most of the injured suffered 
from wounds to their arms, legs and torsos.

Most of those injured were police personnel, but the motive for the attack was 
not immediately clear, and no group claimed responsibility immediately after 
the explosion.

Early reports indicated that the suspected suicide bomber was the only fatality.

The suspect appeared to have been wearing a suicide vest beneath his black 
robes, and was sitting amongst worshippers when he set off the bomb, Agus 
Riyanto, a police spokeswoman, said.

There have been a series of small bomb attacks in Indonesia over the last two 
weeks. Al Jazeera's Vaessen reported that militants in the country have been 
focusing on police and government targets, following the arrests of over 300 
people on suspicion of involvement in terrorism.

"What now seems to be the target is not so much foreigners, or people who are 
non-Muslims, but now mostly targeted are people who are in the government and 
the police," she said.

Indonesia, a country of 240 million people, has been rocked by a series of 
bombings staged by the Jemaah Islamiyah network in recent years, including the 
2002 Bali bombings, which killed 202 people.

The last major bombing in Indonesia took place in July 2009, when two suicide 
attackers killed seven people at two luxurious Jakarta hotels.


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[proletar] Re: Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang + Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Saya bilagn dan saya ulang: Islam itu laknat buat ummat manusia, artinya juga 
buat orang Islam sendiri...

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
> Refleksi : Beginilah negara Neo-Mojophatit. Nasrani disikat, Ahmadiyah 
> diganyang, sekarang giliran kaum Syiah,  ayo besok lusa siap yang akan 
> menyusul? Masih tidurkah atau ngantukah Anda? 
> 
> http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/14/06270810/Ditekan.Kaum.Syiah.Madura.Siap.Hengkang
> 
> 
> Keberagaman
> 
> Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang
> K17-11 | yuli | Kamis, 14 April 2011 | 06:27 WIB 
> 
> K17-11 Kegiatan di kompleks Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI) Tajul 
> Muluk, Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang, Madura, Jawa 
> Timur berjalan seperti biasa meski ketuanya ditahan di Mapolres Sampang. 
> 
> T
> SAMPANG, KOMPAS.com - Kaum Islam berhaluan Syiah di Sampang, Madura, Jawa 
> Timur, tetap menjalankan ibadahnya meski ketua mereka, Tajul Muluk, diamankan 
> polisi sejak 4 April 2011 lalu.
> 
> ""Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi mempertahankan keyakinan kami. 
> Asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab. 
> -- Tajul Muluk, pemuka Syiah di Sampang ""
> Mereka berhimpun dalam Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI), yang 
> kegiatannya berpusat di Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang.
> 
> Menjelang ketuanya diamankan, ribuan orang dari enam desa berencana menyerang 
> kediaman Tajul Muluk yang juga pusat kegiatan IJABI. Kini, kegiatan di rumah 
> Tajul Muluk berjalan seperti biasanya.
> 
> Para santrinya tetap menjalankan aktivitasnya seperti sekolah, shalat 
> berjemaah, dan pengajian. Tidak tampak ada ketegangan antara masyarakat 
> sekitar dan penghuni kompleks IJABI.
> 
> Tajul Muluk saat dihubungi melalui telepon selulernya, Rabu (13/4/2011), 
> mengaku ingin segera ke rumahnya dan menjalankan kegiatan seperti biasanya. 
> Dia beranggapan, aktivitasnya sebagai penyebar faham Syiah sama sekali tidak 
> bertentangan dengan undang-undang.
> 
> Bahkan, ia mengaku kecewa dengan sikap para pemuka agama Sampang yang sudah 
> menganggapnya sesat. Padahal, Syiah adalah salah satu aliran dalam Islam yang 
> berkembang di Indonesia sejak lama.
> 
> "Kalau perbedaan jangan dicari-cari, sebab tidak akan pernah ada titik 
> temunya. Tetapi, persamaannya yang perlu kita jaga sehingga keyakinan dalam 
> beragama bisa berjalan seiring bersama," kata Tajul Muluk.
> 
> Terkait dengan adanya ultimatum dari Badan Silaturrahim Ulama Madura (Basra) 
> agar dirinya bersama lebih dari 100 jemaahnya segera hengkang dari Sampang, 
> pria yang pernah mengaji di Yayasan Pendidikan Islam (YAPI) Bangil, Pasuruan, 
> Jawa Timur, ini menyatakan tidak keberatan.
> 
> Ia hanya mematok syarat agar semua asetnya diberi ganti rugi dan pengikutnya 
> harus ikut bersamanya. "Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi 
> mempertahankan keyakinan kami, asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung 
> jawab," terang Tajul.
> 
> Sementara Alimullah (19), penanggung jawab kegiatan di kompleks IJABI, 
> mengatakan siap hengkang bersama gurunya ke mana pun pergi. Bahkan, 
> santri-santrinya juga akan dibawa serta.
> 
> "Ke mana pun ustaz pergi, kami akan selalu mengikutinya," katanya. Namun, 
> Tajul berharap itu tidak terjadi. Dirinya menginginkan duduk bersama untuk 
> mencarikan solusi yang terbaik.
> 
> "Saya masih percaya ada solusi jika semua pihak, termasuk keamanan, mau 
> membuka dialog," terangnya.
> 
> Lazim diketahui, meskipun berkembang sejak lama di Indonesia, Syiah tetap 
> minoritas. Tokoh besar Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), almarhum KH Abdurrahman Wahid 
> (Gus Dur) adalah pendekar demokrasi terakhir yang gigih membela hak 
> keberagamaan mereka. 
> 
> ERKAIT:
> 
>   a.. Desa Kaum Syiah Diserbu, 200 Tertembak
>   b.. Ratusan Ribu Syiah Melawan Rezim Sunni
>   c.. 3 Bom Mobil Tewaskan 12 Orang di Karbala
>   d.. Parade Syiah Digranat, 1 Bayi Tewas
>   e.. Bus Peziarah Syiah Dibom, 5 Orang Tewas
> 
> http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/15/00302669/Gereja.Baru.di.Malang.Dibongkar.Massa
> 
> Kemajemukan
> 
> Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa
> Doddy Wisnu Pribadi | yuli | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 00:30 WIB 
> MALANG, KOMPAS.com - Massa yang tidak diketahui identitasnya membongkar 
> gereja yang belum selesai dibangun di Dukuh Ubalan, Desa Pamotan, Kecamatan 
> Dampit, Kabupaten Malang, Jawa Timur.
> 
> Peristiwanya terjadi pada Kamis (14/4/2011) sore di desa yang dikenal sering 
> ada konflik masalah perkebunan itu. Desa ini berjarak 38 km di selatan Kota 
> Malang, atau 4 km dari jalur jalan provinsi Malang-Lumajang. Untuk mencapai 
> lokasi itu, mesti melintasi persawahan dan areal perkebunan karena berada di 
> pedesaan.
> 
> Saat diamati pada pukul 22.00, bangunan baru gereja itu masih utuh. Hanya 
> saja, sebagian dinding sudah berlubang, atau terbongkar, menurut penuturan 
> orang yang menjadi bagian kerumuan massa di jalan masuk menuju gereja.
> 
> Meski banyak orang di antara kerumunan, tidak ada se

[proletar] BBC: Italian activist found dead in Gaza after abduction

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
15 April 2011 Last updated at 07:14 GMT


Italian activist found dead in Gaza after abduction

Image from video showing Vittorio Arrigoni after his capture Vittorio Arrigoni 
was kidnapped on Thursday morning


An Italian pro-Palestinian activist has been found dead in the Hamas-governed 
Gaza Strip hours after being abducted.

Vittorio Arrigoni, 36, was seized on Thursday by a radical group that has been 
in conflict with Hamas and is seeking the release of its leader.

Police said he was found hanged in a Gaza City house after receiving a tip-off. 
Two people have been arrested.

Italy denounced the "barbaric murder", calling it an "act of vile and senseless 
violence".

Mr Arrigoni was the first foreigner kidnapped in Gaza since BBC journalist Alan 
Johnston was abducted in 2007.

Friends of the activist gathered outside the hospital where his body had been 
taken on Friday morning.

"He came from across the world, left his country and family and his entire life 
and came here to break the siege, and we kill him? Why?" asked one of his 
friends.
YouTube video
File photo of Vittorio Arrigoni holding aid at Gaza seaport in October 2008 
Vittorio Arrigoni was a pro-Palestinian activist who had been in Gaza for 
several years

Vittorio Arrigoni was seized by Salafist radicals, an Islamist movement itself 
that considers Hamas as too moderate, BBC Gaza correspondent Jon Donnison says.

The Salafists had threatened to execute Mr Arrigoni by 1400 GMT on Friday 
unless several prisoners, including their leader, Sheikh Abu Walid al-Maqdasi, 
were released. Sheikh Maqdasi was arrested by Hamas police last month in Gaza 
City.

In a video posted on YouTube, Mr Arrigoni appeared to have been beaten and his 
eyes were covered with thick black tape.

A caption on the video read: "The Italian hostage entered our land only to 
spread corruption." The video called Italy "the infidel state".

It is not clear why Mr Arrigoni was killed before the given deadline, but the 
Hamas interior ministry said he had died soon after being abducted.

Ministry spokesman Ehab al-Ghussein said he was killed "in an awful way".

Continue reading the main story
Salafists in Gaza

* Small in number but appear to be attracting supporters
* View Hamas as too moderate
* Refuse to abide by ceasefires
* Launched hundreds of rockets at Israel
* Salafism espouses an austere form of Sunni Islam based on practices of 
earliest Muslims

Mr Ghussein told reporters that the security forces had been led to the house 
in Gaza City by one of the men involved.

He described the killing as a "heinous crime which has nothing to do with our 
values, our religion, our customs and traditions", and vowed to hunt down and 
bring to justice others who were involved.

In Rome, the Italian foreign ministry expressed "its deep horror over the 
barbaric murder".

Mr Arrigoni was a member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) and had 
been in Gaza for several years.

Huwaida Arraf, a co-founder of the ISM, said he was very well-known in the 
territory and had a "dynamic, humanitarian personality".

"I even thought that whoever has him is going to see his humanity and just let 
him go, so when I heard what happened to him I was totally shocked," she told 
the AFP news agency.

Hamas had been credited with eliminating the threat of kidnapping in Gaza until 
his abduction. This is likely to be seen as a challenge to its authority, our 
correspondent says.






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[proletar] France24: British, French, US leaders rule out future with Gaddafi

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
 British, French, US leaders rule out future with Gaddafi

British PM David Cameron, US President Barack Obama and French President 
Nicolas Sarkozy say it is "unthinkable" that Muammar Gaddafi would play any 
role in a future Libyan government in a joint contribution to international 
dailies published Friday.
By News Wires (text)
 

AFP - A Libyan future including Moamer Kadhafi is "unthinkable" and would 
represent an "unconscionable betrayal" by the rest of the world, the leaders of 
Britain, France and the United States said Thursday.

British Prime Minister David Cameron, France's President Nicolas Sarkozy and US 
President Barack Obama vowed they would "not rest until the UN...resolutions 
have been implemented", in a joint article published in several international 
newspapers.

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  Diplomacy in high gear as NATO faces dissent on Libya

"It is unthinkable that someone who has tried to massacre his own people can 
play a part in their future government," the article, which appeared in the 
London Times, The Washington Post and French daily Le Figaro, continued.

"The brave citizens of those towns that have held out against forces that have 
been mercilessly targeting them would face a fearful vengeance if the world 
accepted such an arrangement. It would be an unconscionable betrayal," the 
leaders argued.

The publication of the article underlined US commitment to the UN-mandated 
operation against Kadhafi's forces, easing earlier tensions between members of 
the Western alliance.

The three leaders promised that NATO and its coalition partners would "maintain 
their operations so that civilians remain protected" as long as Kadhafi was in 
power.

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  Rebel-held Misrata under siege from Gaddafi forces
  FRANCE 24 EXCLUSIVE - LIBYA
  Rebel-held Misrata under siege from Gaddafi forces

"Britain, France and the United States will not rest until the UN Security 
Council resolutions have been implemented and the Libyan people can choose 
their own future," they promised.

A failure to unseat Kadhafi "would condemn Libya to being not only a pariah 
state, but a failed state too", the three men warned.

The letter was originally drafted by Cameron and Sarkozy following their 
meeting in Paris on Wednesday, but Obama asked to have his name added to the 
article after he was sent a courtesy copy.

France revealed earlier Thursday that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had 
rebuffed appeals for more assistance with the enforcement of the UN resolution 
authorising all necessary means to protect Libyan civilians.

Washington pulled back around 50 combat planes from Libyan operations last week 
after handing over control of the mission to NATO, although since then they 
took part in some missions to take out Kadhafi's air defence systems.

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"We share the same goal, which is to see the end of the Gaddafi regime in 
Libya, and we're contributing in many ways in order to see that goal realised." 
- US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, April 14, 2011
Clinton later told NATO allies: "For our part, the US is committed to our 
shared mission. We will strongly support the coalition until our work is 
completed."

Backing up Clinton's promise, Obama's joint article stated it was the 
coalition's "duty and our mandate...to protect civilians".

The article stressed the mandate was "not to remove Kadhafi by force" but added 
it was "impossible to imagine a future for Libya with Kadhafi in power".

"The people of Libya are suffering terrible horrors at Kadhafi's hands each and 
every day," the article said. "The city of Misrata is enduring a medieval siege 
as Kadhafi tries to strangle its population into submission."

Britain and France on Wednesday agreed to step up military pressure on 
Kadhafi's regime after world powers meeting in Doha promised Libya's rebels 
cash and the means to defend themselves.

Looking to a post-Kadhafi future, the leaders said they were "convinced that 
better times lie ahead for the people of Libya".

After Kadhafi leaves, the three men predicted "a genuine transition from 
dictatorship to an inclusive constitutional process...led by a new generation 
of leaders.

"For that transition to succeed, Kadhafi must go, and go for good," they 
concluded.

Meanwhile, Kadhafi toured the streets of Tripoli on Thursday as NATO warplanes 
carried out a series of air raids that rocked the Libyan capital.

In an open-top 4x4 wearing dark glasses and a hunting hat, Kadhafi hailed 
bystanders as he put on a show of defiance.






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[proletar] BBC: Indonesia 'suicide bomber' wounds 28 in mosque blast

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
15 April 2011 Last updated at 08:38 GMT

Indonesia 'suicide bomber' wounds 28 in mosque blast
Armed anti-terror police commandos escort Abu Bakar Ba'asyir at Jakarta court 
on March 14, 2011 Indonesian police are active against terror groups which they 
allege are inspired by Abu Bakar Ba'asyir

A suspected suicide bomber has attacked a mosque in Indonesia, killing himself 
and wounding 28 people.

Nearly half of the wounded are police officers, as the attack happened during 
Friday prayers at a mosque in a police compound in Cirebon, West Java.

It is the first suspected suicide attack in the country in two years but 
follows a recent spate of letter bombs.

A majority of Indonesians are Muslims but the state is secular.

Witnesses said the man was sitting among worshippers when he set off the 
explosives.

"He was praying. From the third row, suddenly there was a blast. I was at the 
last row," one witness named Anton was quoted as saying by Detik news website.

"We suspect it was a suicide bombing," Indonesian police spokesman Anton 
Bachrul Alam said.

"The police have been the most active in fighting terrorism and that is why 
they are furious with us," he added.

The BBC's Alice Budisatrijo in Jakarta says several high profile militants 
suspected of involvement in past bombings in Indonesia have recently been 
arrested or killed by the police.

"It looks like there has been a shift in the extremists' target, from Western 
to state symbols," Noor Huda, a security analyst, told the BBC.

"It's their revenge for what they see as injustice committed against them by 
the police and other authorities."

In December, one of Indonesia's most-wanted Islamic militant suspects, Abu 
Tholut, was arrested on suspicion of helping to set up a militant training camp 
in Aceh province, recruiting militants and raising funds for "terror 
activities".

The highest-profile arrest has been that of cleric Abu Bakar Ba'asyir, seen by 
many as the spiritual leader of many of Indonesia's radical groups.

He is currently on trial in Jakarta.

In recent years, Indonesia has introduced a combination of new laws, 
anti-terror training, international co-operation and reintegration measures to 
tackle militancy.





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[proletar] Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang + Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
Refleksi : Beginilah negara Neo-Mojophatit. Nasrani disikat, Ahmadiyah 
diganyang, sekarang giliran kaum Syiah,  ayo besok lusa siap yang akan 
menyusul? Masih tidurkah atau ngantukah Anda? 

http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/14/06270810/Ditekan.Kaum.Syiah.Madura.Siap.Hengkang


Keberagaman

Ditekan, Kaum Syiah Madura Siap Hengkang
K17-11 | yuli | Kamis, 14 April 2011 | 06:27 WIB 

K17-11 Kegiatan di kompleks Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI) Tajul 
Muluk, Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang, Madura, Jawa 
Timur berjalan seperti biasa meski ketuanya ditahan di Mapolres Sampang. 

T
SAMPANG, KOMPAS.com - Kaum Islam berhaluan Syiah di Sampang, Madura, Jawa 
Timur, tetap menjalankan ibadahnya meski ketua mereka, Tajul Muluk, diamankan 
polisi sejak 4 April 2011 lalu.

""Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi mempertahankan keyakinan kami. 
Asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab. 
-- Tajul Muluk, pemuka Syiah di Sampang ""
Mereka berhimpun dalam Ikatan Jamaah Ahlil Bait Indonesia (IJABI), yang 
kegiatannya berpusat di Desa Karang Gayam, Kecamatan Omben, Kabupaten Sampang.

Menjelang ketuanya diamankan, ribuan orang dari enam desa berencana menyerang 
kediaman Tajul Muluk yang juga pusat kegiatan IJABI. Kini, kegiatan di rumah 
Tajul Muluk berjalan seperti biasanya.

Para santrinya tetap menjalankan aktivitasnya seperti sekolah, shalat 
berjemaah, dan pengajian. Tidak tampak ada ketegangan antara masyarakat sekitar 
dan penghuni kompleks IJABI.

Tajul Muluk saat dihubungi melalui telepon selulernya, Rabu (13/4/2011), 
mengaku ingin segera ke rumahnya dan menjalankan kegiatan seperti biasanya. Dia 
beranggapan, aktivitasnya sebagai penyebar faham Syiah sama sekali tidak 
bertentangan dengan undang-undang.

Bahkan, ia mengaku kecewa dengan sikap para pemuka agama Sampang yang sudah 
menganggapnya sesat. Padahal, Syiah adalah salah satu aliran dalam Islam yang 
berkembang di Indonesia sejak lama.

"Kalau perbedaan jangan dicari-cari, sebab tidak akan pernah ada titik temunya. 
Tetapi, persamaannya yang perlu kita jaga sehingga keyakinan dalam beragama 
bisa berjalan seiring bersama," kata Tajul Muluk.

Terkait dengan adanya ultimatum dari Badan Silaturrahim Ulama Madura (Basra) 
agar dirinya bersama lebih dari 100 jemaahnya segera hengkang dari Sampang, 
pria yang pernah mengaji di Yayasan Pendidikan Islam (YAPI) Bangil, Pasuruan, 
Jawa Timur, ini menyatakan tidak keberatan.

Ia hanya mematok syarat agar semua asetnya diberi ganti rugi dan pengikutnya 
harus ikut bersamanya. "Kami tidak keberatan untuk hengkang demi mempertahankan 
keyakinan kami, asalkan pemerintah juga mau bertanggung jawab," terang Tajul.

Sementara Alimullah (19), penanggung jawab kegiatan di kompleks IJABI, 
mengatakan siap hengkang bersama gurunya ke mana pun pergi. Bahkan, 
santri-santrinya juga akan dibawa serta.

"Ke mana pun ustaz pergi, kami akan selalu mengikutinya," katanya. Namun, Tajul 
berharap itu tidak terjadi. Dirinya menginginkan duduk bersama untuk mencarikan 
solusi yang terbaik.

"Saya masih percaya ada solusi jika semua pihak, termasuk keamanan, mau membuka 
dialog," terangnya.

Lazim diketahui, meskipun berkembang sejak lama di Indonesia, Syiah tetap 
minoritas. Tokoh besar Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), almarhum KH Abdurrahman Wahid (Gus 
Dur) adalah pendekar demokrasi terakhir yang gigih membela hak keberagamaan 
mereka. 

ERKAIT:

  a.. Desa Kaum Syiah Diserbu, 200 Tertembak
  b.. Ratusan Ribu Syiah Melawan Rezim Sunni
  c.. 3 Bom Mobil Tewaskan 12 Orang di Karbala
  d.. Parade Syiah Digranat, 1 Bayi Tewas
  e.. Bus Peziarah Syiah Dibom, 5 Orang Tewas

http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/15/00302669/Gereja.Baru.di.Malang.Dibongkar.Massa

Kemajemukan

Gereja Baru di Malang Dibongkar Massa
Doddy Wisnu Pribadi | yuli | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 00:30 WIB 
MALANG, KOMPAS.com - Massa yang tidak diketahui identitasnya membongkar gereja 
yang belum selesai dibangun di Dukuh Ubalan, Desa Pamotan, Kecamatan Dampit, 
Kabupaten Malang, Jawa Timur.

Peristiwanya terjadi pada Kamis (14/4/2011) sore di desa yang dikenal sering 
ada konflik masalah perkebunan itu. Desa ini berjarak 38 km di selatan Kota 
Malang, atau 4 km dari jalur jalan provinsi Malang-Lumajang. Untuk mencapai 
lokasi itu, mesti melintasi persawahan dan areal perkebunan karena berada di 
pedesaan.

Saat diamati pada pukul 22.00, bangunan baru gereja itu masih utuh. Hanya saja, 
sebagian dinding sudah berlubang, atau terbongkar, menurut penuturan orang yang 
menjadi bagian kerumuan massa di jalan masuk menuju gereja.

Meski banyak orang di antara kerumunan, tidak ada seorang pun yang bersedia 
menjelaskan duduk ceritanya dengan mengaku identitasnya.

Aparat kepolisian dari Mapolsek Dampit sudah berada di lokasi saat aksi massa 
terjadi, tetapi pada pukul 22.00 sudah tidak berada di lokasi. Warga tampak 
berjaga-jaga di sudut-sudut jalan.

Namun, tidak ada seorang pun yang bersedia untuk memberikan keterangan. Aparat 
Polsek dan T

[proletar] Aljazeera: Suicide bomber targets Indonesia mosque

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
 
--
 
Asia-Pacific
Suicide bomber targets Indonesia mosque
Suspected suicide attacker killed and at least 17 others injured at a mosque in 
a police compound, police say.
Last Modified: 15 Apr 2011 08:26

A bomb explosion outside a mosque in the Indonesian town of Cirebon has killed 
at least one person and wounded at least 17 others, police have told Al Jazeera.

"A man has blown himself up ... the police is talking about a suicide bomber 
during Friday prayers in the mosque at the police station in Cirebon in West 
Java. The mosque was full of police officers at the time of the explosion," Al 
Jazeera's Step Vaessen reported from Jakarta, the Indonesian capital.

Hospital sources told Al Jazeera that 17 people were injured in the attack, 
including the local police chief.

Yeni Rahmawati, a hospital spokeswoman, said that most of the injured suffered 
from wounds to their arms, legs and torsos.

Most of those injured were police personnel, but the motive for the attack was 
not immediately clear, and no group claimed responsibility immediately after 
the explosion.

Early reports indicated that the suspected suicide bomber was the only fatality.

The suspect appeared to have been wearing a suicide vest beneath his black 
robes, and was sitting amongst worshippers when he set off the bomb, Agus 
Riyanto, a police spokeswoman, said.

There have been a series of small bomb attacks in Indonesia over the last two 
weeks. Al Jazeera's Vaessen reported that militants in the country have been 
focusing on police and government targets, following the arrests of over 300 
people on suspicion of involvement in terrorism.

"What now seems to be the target is not so much foreigners, or people who are 
non-Muslims, but now mostly targeted are people who are in the government and 
the police," she said.

Indonesia, a country of 240 million people, has been rocked by a series of 
bombings staged by the Jemaah Islamiyah network in recent years, including the 
2002 Bali bombings, which killed 202 people.

The last major bombing in Indonesia took place in July 2009, when two suicide 
attackers killed seven people at two luxurious Jakarta hotels.
Source:
Al Jazeera and agencies






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[proletar] Kompas: Pelaku Bom Bunuh Diri Berpakaian Serba Hitam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Pelaku Bom Bunuh Diri Berpakaian Serba Hitam

Rini Kustiasih | Heru Margianto | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 14:55 WIB
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TERKAIT:

* PPP Kutuk Bom Bunuh Diri di Cirebon
* Puluhan Paku Menancap di Tubuh Korban
* Polri: Pelaku Incar Polisi
* Kapolda Jabar Meluncur ke Cirebon
* Polri: Bom Disimpan di Balik Baju

CIREBON, KOMPA.com — Gerak-gerik pelaku bom bunuh diri di Masjid At-Takwa 
Mapolresta Cirebon mencurigakan sejak awal. Ia berpakaian serba hitam: celana 
hitam, kaus hitam, dan jaket hitam. 

"Ia mencari sandaran dekat pintu dan seperti menutupi sesuatu di balik jaket 
hitamnya," kata salah seorang saksi mata, Aiptu Sukri, di lokasi kejadian, 
Jumat (15/4/2011). 

Saat shalat, Sukri berada satu saf dengan pelaku, yaitu di saf ketiga. 
Sementara Kapolres Cirebon AKBP Herukoco berada di saf paling depan.

"Saat semua orang selesai ikamah Allahu Akbar bom meledak. Suaranya keras 
sekali. Lalu, setelah itu hening, senyap. Beberapa saat setelah itu terdengar 
rintihan. Saya melihat korban-korban yang luka penuh paku," tutur Sukri.

Setidaknya 25 orang terluka terkena paku yang beterbangan begitu bom meledak. 
Pelaku tewas di tempat. Perutnya hancur, sementara bagian wajahnya tidak. Kuat 
diduga, bom diikatkan di bagian perutnya di balik kaus. Korban luka dibawa ke 
RS Pertamina dan RS Pelabuhan. 





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[proletar] Re: El Clasico...

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Dengan kontol yang menderita premature ejaculation yang dipakainya untuk 
berfikir kesanggupan rezamautia itu terbatas untuk ngomong tentang musik, 
sepakbola dan mnyebar fitnah dan dusta..

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> Pertemuan El Clasico 2 raksasa sepak bola dunia ini akan terjadi 4 kali, 
> setelah El Clasico La Liga hari Sabtu besok, lalu dilanjutkan hari Rabu pada 
> final Copa Del Ray dan semi final Piala Champion tanggal 27 Maret dan 3 Mei.
> 
> Pertandingan hari Sabtu sangat menentukan untuk kelanjutan El Clasico 
> selanjutnya karena kemenangan akan mengangkat moril dan semangat tim 
> pemenang. 
> 
> So far, Barcelona dibawah asuhan Pep Guardiola mencatat rekor tidak 
> terkalahkan dalam pertandingan El Clasico melawan Real Madrid dengan 5 kali 
> kemenangan dan terakhir membantai Real Madrid 5-0.
> 
> Walaupun Barcelona kalah pada hari Sabtu besok, hal itu tidak menggoyahkan 
> posisi Barcelona sebagai pemimpin puncak klasemen La Liga karena saat ini 
> perbedaannya dengan Real Madrid 8 poin, cukup jauh juga.  
> 
> Tetapi, kemenangan bagi Barcelona akan 'wrap up' titel juara La Liga.   
> 
> Disamping semua itu, tentu saja yang disebut El Clasico merupakan big match 
> yang berarti sangat besar untuk fans, pemain, dan terutama martabat sebagai 
> 'the best of the bests', sehingga Barcelona dan Real Madrid akan mati2an 
> untuk menang.
> 
> Real Madrid saat ini sedang berada dalam puncak permainan dan tidak ada 
> pemain yang cedera.  Kaka, Benzema, dan Higuain sudah sehat dari cedera 
> sehingga Jose Maurinho dapat merotasi pemain sesuai dengan strategi yang 
> diniginkan seperti dalam pertandingan Piala Champion kemarin.
> 
> Sementara itu, top score Real Madrid Cristiano Ronaldo sampai saat ini masih 
> belum bisa mencetak gol ke gawang Barcelona.  El Clasico ini merupakan 
> kesempatan bagi Cristiano Ronaldo untuk membuktikan bahwa dia adalah pemain 
> kaliber dunia dengan mencetak gol melawan tim besar, bukan hanya mencetak gol 
> melawan tim 'ecek-ecek'.
> 
> Barcelona saat ini sedang dililit cedera dari beberapa pemain kunci.  Carles 
> Puyol dan Eric Abidal sedang mengalami cedera sehingga membuat pertahanan 
> Barca agak 'shaky'.  
> 
> Gerard Pique dan Gabriel Milito yang kurang berpengalaman di lini pertahanan 
> menggantikan Puyol dan Abidal.  Bahkan pada Piala Champion, Javier Mascherano 
> yang dipasang pada posisi bek, terbukti kurang efisien sehingga digantikan 
> oleh Milito.
> 
> Top score dan Pemain Terbaik Dunia, Lionel Messi sedang dalam top form.  
> Lionel Messi sudah mencetak 29 gol dalam La Liga  dan mencetak 48 gol di 
> semua kompetisi yang merupakan rekor baru klub Barcelona.  
> 
> Sayangnya striker Bojan Krkic sedang mengalami cedera dan David Villa tidak 
> pernah mencetak gol dalam 9 pertandingan terakhir ini.
> 
> 
> ==
>






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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam (Dan Tawang itu menyuruh orang memperkosa

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Dan Tawang yang dibela Suryana itu menyuruh orang memperkosa perempuan 
Tionghoa, artinya termasuk istri dan anak-anak Suryana sendiri...

Suryana juga jarang, if ever, menyalahkan orang Islam seperti rezameutia yang 
memfitnah orang kafir seperti "great pretender" misalnya...

Sifat Suryana itu sungguh nista.

Kerak kenistaan.


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
>
> Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja nyuruh 
> saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.  
> -Original Message-
> From: "Abbas" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> 
> Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
> kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun dan cs 
> > nya 
> > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> > 
> > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > From: "bangmossad@" 
> > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > 
> >
> > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya,   kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg 
> > yg 
> > bukan yahudi, ya gitu... 
> > 
> > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis 
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® 
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: item abu  
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48 
> > To:  
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ndeboost  
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > 
> > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan 
> > fitnah dan atau kriminal? 
> > 
> > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi 
> > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu tak 
> > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost 
> > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank. 
> > 
> > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan? 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu sbg 
> > kriminal? 
> > > 
> > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu sesama 
> > lu yg 
> > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu? 
> > > 
> > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal 
> > si 
> > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya malu 
> > drpd 
> > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe... 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ 
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM 
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka  yg merasa dirinya adalah 
> > seekor 
> > > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu berfikirpun 
> > > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad. 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®" 
> > > cha6966@ wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah 
> > > kandang dengan ukuran 
> > > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun, 
> > > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang. 
> > > > 
> > > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh 
> > > 3-3,5m. 
> > > > 
> > > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari, 
> > > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam 
> > kandang 
> > > kecil tanpa penutup. 
> > > > 
> > > > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi 
> > > yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati. 
> > > > 
> > > > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya, 
> > > > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat 
> > > dasarnya. 
> > > > 
> > > > Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri 
> > > sendiri. 
> > > > 
> > > > Nah... 
> > > > 
> > > > Ternyata banyak dari kita, 
> > > > juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah, 
> > fokus 
> > > terus dengan masalah, mengeluh terus sampai akhirnya frustasi sendiri. 
> > > > 
> > > > Sadarilah bahwa jawaban dari masalah kita adalah selalu DIATAS, 
> > yaitu 
> > > > 
> > > > TUHAN 
> > > > 
> > > > Menengadahlah, 
> > > > Uc

[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik johny_indon
tahukah anda yg namanya anjing?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®"  wrote:
>
> Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah kandang 
> dengan ukuran 
> 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun,
> tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang.
> 
> Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh 3-3,5m.
> 
> Tanpa tempat untuk berlari,
> elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam kandang kecil 
> tanpa penutup.
> 
> Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi yang 
> terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati.
> 
> Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya,
> melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat dasarnya.
> 
> Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri sendiri.
> 
> Nah...
> 
> Ternyata banyak dari kita,
> juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah, fokus terus 
> dengan masalah, mengeluh terus sampai akhirnya frustasi sendiri.
> 
> Sadarilah bahwa jawaban dari masalah kita adalah selalu DIATAS, yaitu 
> 
> TUHAN 
> 
> Menengadahlah,
> Ucapkanlah doa, & lepas landaslah dalam BERTINDAK mencari solusi. 
> 
> LAKUKAN & LAKUKAN LAGI & TERUS BERJUANG !!!
> 
> Keep fight !!!
> 
> Keep Your Dreams !!!
> 
> Be a Winner !!!
> 
> You are the CHAMPION
> 
> God Bless U all my friends..
> 
> Selamat Malam...
> 
> Good Night.
> 
> 
> Ch@​​™ 
> pin:21EF6D92 
> Charles Asiku 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Charles Asiku
>






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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Otak babi.

Otak binatang.

Sedeng.

suryana itu orang katolik yang udah jadi nista penjilat pantat orang Islam 
salafy hingga jadi pendukung Tawang yang menyuruh orang memperkosa perempuan 
Tionghoa, artinya termasuk istri atau anak-anak Suryana itu.



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
>
> kalo bener kang sur katolik.. brarti omongan gw tepat,
> lo anjing kampung yg gak bisa bedain mana tai.. mana kue
> asal gonggong tiap ada orang lewat...
> artinya, ngomong asal mangap.. tanpa dipikir
>  
> gw bukan katolik tapi tau banget orang katolik,
> kalo orang katholik udah maki² orang itu tandanya
> sedang maki² orang amoral
>  
> nah.. gw mo liat postingan lo berikutnya,
> asal mangap ato pakai otak...
> milis ini punya piaraan tukang maki² yg bisa buat gampar²-an
> ato di suruh² jadi tukang loper koran...
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
>  
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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[proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Otak babi.

Otak binatang.

Suryana manusia bertabiat nista penjilat pantat orang Islam seperti Tawang yang 
menyuruh orang memperkosa perempuan Tionghoa, artinya termasuk istri dan 
anak-anak Suryana sendiri.

Suryana itu orang yang sudah kehilangan harga diri.


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas"  wrote:
>
> Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
> kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun dan cs 
> > nya 
> > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> > 
> > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga sadis 
> > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: "bangmossad@" 
> > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > 
> >
> > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya,   kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg 
> > yg 
> > bukan yahudi, ya gitu... 
> > 
> > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis 
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® 
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: item abu  
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48 
> > To:  
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > From: ndeboost  
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > 
> > 
> > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan 
> > fitnah dan atau kriminal? 
> > 
> > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi 
> > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu tak 
> > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost 
> > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank. 
> > 
> > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan? 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu sbg 
> > kriminal? 
> > > 
> > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu sesama 
> > lu yg 
> > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu? 
> > > 
> > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal 
> > si 
> > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya malu 
> > drpd 
> > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe... 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ 
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM 
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka  yg merasa dirinya adalah 
> > seekor 
> > > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu berfikirpun 
> > > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad. 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®" 
> > > cha6966@ wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > Tahukah anda  jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah 
> > > kandang dengan ukuran 
> > > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun, 
> > > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang. 
> > > > 
> > > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh 
> > > 3-3,5m. 
> > > > 
> > > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari, 
> > > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam 
> > kandang 
> > > kecil tanpa penutup. 
> > > > 
> > > > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi 
> > > yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati. 
> > > > 
> > > > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya, 
> > > > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat 
> > > dasarnya. 
> > > > 
> > > > Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri 
> > > sendiri. 
> > > > 
> > > > Nah... 
> > > > 
> > > > Ternyata banyak dari kita, 
> > > > juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah, 
> > fokus 
> > > terus dengan masalah, mengeluh terus sampai akhirnya frustasi sendiri. 
> > > > 
> > > > Sadarilah bahwa jawaban dari masalah kita adalah selalu DIATAS, 
> > yaitu 
> > > > 
> > > > TUHAN 
> > > > 
> > > > Menengadahlah, 
> > > > Ucapkanlah doa, & lepas landaslah dalam BERTINDAK mencari solusi. 
> > > > 
> > > > LAKUKAN & LAKUKAN LAGI & TERUS BERJUANG !!! 
> > > > 
> > > > Keep fight !!! 
> > > > 
> > > > Keep Your Dreams !!! 
> > > > 
> > > > Be a Winner !!! 
> > > > 
> > > > You are the CHAMPION 
> > > > 
> > > > God Bless U all my friends.. 
> > > > 
> > > > Selamat Malam... 
> > > > 
> > > > Good Night. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> >

[proletar] Re: u can count on me ..

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik johny_indon


jadi inget, dulu jaman ibm pc biar kenceng harus nancepin 
"math coprocessor 80287", sekeping ic yg kaki2nya dilapisi emas juga.
kalo tau harga emas sekarang bakalan nyampe Rp 462 ribu per gram
(http://logammulia.com/news.php?id=9), mestinya saya preteli dulu tuh kaki2 si 
math co sebelum pc nya saya kasiin ke adek ipar.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Led Zeppelin  wrote:
>
> Sekarang seperti itu adanya,jarang ada komponent transistor 
> terbuat dari emas sungguhan,sekarang mana ada stylus/jarum turntable
> menggunakan intan/blue/black safier dengan harga murah?seperti doeloe
> kayu saja dihindari apalagi ...intan/emas/perak
> 
> Suara2 merdu itu hilang di akhir 80s disebab kan oleh hilang nya 
> komponen2 berkwalitas tersebut dari tengah2 masyarakat,maka dari sebab itu
> barang elektronok jaman 70s tetap menjadi tonggak utama audio-hifi hari ini
> takan tergantikan oleh kecanggihan abad 21 yang makin irit
> 
> Saya kalau mendengarkan musik dengan menggunakan equalizer 
> pasti hanya sebentar saja...tidak ber-jam2 noisenya besar/kesan nya berisik
> audiophile kelas wakhid pasti selalu menghidari hedpun&ekualiser
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/14/11, ajeg  wrote:
> 
> From: ajeg 
> Subject: Re: [proletar] u can count on me ..
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 1:23 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>  
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>   
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> Ya, teknologi diktator fasis. Samasekali nggak kasih 
> 
> kesempatan orang untuk tune ke kupingnya sendiri. 
> 
> Kuping manusia pun harus tunduk pada kemresek dollar. 
> 
> Nggak demokratis & kelewat steril. Plastik. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dulu, orang sangat menikmati punya kuping merdeka. 
> 
> Bahkan "kemresek jagung bakar" begini terasa natural di 
> 
> pedaleman paling dalem, 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c1KCCXD7bw
> 
> 
> 
> --- "johny_indon"  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > dan teknologi sekarang adalah teknologi praktis egois (alias 
> 
> > sesukanya pabrik yg bikin).
> 
> > sound system jadul minimal ada 3 tingkat: player, ampli, equalizer.
> 
> > saya suka equalizer yg band nya lebar, potensio nya berderet banyak.
> 
> > 
> 
> > jaman sekarang semuanya integrated.
> 
> > 
> 
> > waktu beli home theatre, saya nanya penjualnya
> 
> > 
> 
> > +"setting equalizernya gimana?"
> 
> > -"wah ngga ada pak, semuanya preset. untuk musik 
> 
> > ada mode pop, rock, jazz, classic, concert. untuk
> 
> >  film ada mode action, drama, sport dan night"
> 
> > +"mode bokep ada ngga?" 
> 
> > -"ngga ada pak, mungkin cocoknya yg begituan pake mode sport"
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > --- "ajeg"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > > Dibanding sekarang, teknologi jaman doeloe memang melatih orang 
> 
> > > untuk teliti & apik.
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Re: [proletar] met week end...

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ayub yahya
hehehe...jeratan narkoba dan alkohol adalah masalah dengan
dirinya sendiri.. orang laen cuma bisa nonton doank,
tapi se kali² boleh "plak" ... sapah tau bisa nyembuhin..
 


--- On Fri, 4/15/11, rezameutia  wrote:



   



met weekend buat para junkie alkoholik di milis prol ini. 

sebaiknya para junkie tua dan junkie muda, segeralah pergi ke psikiater atau 
minta bantuan profesional agar bisa lepas dari jeratan narkoba dan alkohol 
supaya tidak terus menjadi junkie hingga usia tua bangka. 

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[proletar] Message from Colonel Mu'ummar Qaddafi

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/13-04-2011/117563-message_from_qaddafi-0/


Message from Colonel Mu'ummar Qaddafi
13.04.2011 
Gaddafi Unplugged and Uncensored


Translated by Professor Sam Hamod, Ph.D.

Recollections of My Life: Col. Mu'ummar Qaddafi, The Leader of the Revolution. 
April 5, 2011.

?

In the name of Allah, the beneficent, the merciful...

For 40 years, or was it longer, I can't remember, I did all I could to give 
people houses, hospitals, schools, and when they were hungry, I gave them food. 
I even made Benghazi into farmland from the desert, I stood up to attacks from 
that cowboy Reagan, when he killed my adopted orphaned daughter, he was trying 
to kill me, instead he killed that poor innocent child. Then I helped my 
brothers and sisters from Africa with money for the African Union.

I did all I could to help people understand the concept of real democracy, 
where people's committees ran our country. But that was never enough, as some 
told me, even people who had 10 room homes, new suits and furniture, were never 
satisfied, as selfish as they were they wanted more. They told Americans and 
other visitors, that they needed "democracy" and "freedom" never realizing it 
was a cut throat system, where the biggest dog eats the rest, but they were 
enchanted with those words, never realizing that in America, there was no free 
medicine, no free hospitals, no free housing, no free education and no free 
food, except when people had to beg or go to long lines to get soup.

No, no matter what I did, it was never enough for some, but for others, they 
knew I was the son of Gamal Abdel Nasser, the only true Arab and Muslim leader 
we've had since Salah-al-Deen, when he claimed the Suez Canal for his people, 
as I claimed Libya, for my people, it was his footsteps I tried to follow, to 
keep my people free from colonial domination - from thieves who would steal 
from us.

Now, I am under attack by the biggest force in military history, my little 
African son, Obama wants to kill me, to take away the freedom of our country, 
to take away our free housing, our free medicine, our free education, our free 
food, and replace it with American style thievery, called "capitalism," but all 
of us in the Third World know what that means, it means corporations run the 
countries, run the world, and the people suffer. So, there is no alternative 
for me, I must make my stand, and if Allah wishes, I shall die by following His 
path, the path that has made our country rich with farmland, with food and 
health, and even allowed us to help our African and Arab brothers and sisters 
to work here with us, in the Libyan Jamahiriya.

I do not wish to die, but if it comes to that, to save this land, my people, 
all the thousands who are all my children, then so be it.

Let this testament be my voice to the world, that I stood up to crusader 
attacks of NATO, stood up to cruelty, stood up to betrayal, stood up to the 
West and its colonialist ambitions, and that I stood with my African brothers, 
my true Arab and Muslim brothers, as a beacon of light. When others were 
building castles, I lived in a modest house, and in a tent. I never forgot my 
youth in Sirte, I did not spend our national treasury foolishly, and like 
Salah-al-Deen, our great Muslim leader, who rescued Jerusalem for Islam, I took 
little for myself...

In the West, some have called me "mad", "crazy", but they know the truth yet 
continue to lie, they know that our land is independent and free, not in the 
colonial grip, that my vision, my path, is, and has been clear and for my 
people and that I will fight to my last breath to keep us free, may Allah 
almighty help us to remain faithful and free.

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c: Col. Mu'ummar Qaddafi, 2011/05/04

Copyright Col. Mu'ummar Qaddafi, - Mathaba.Net



With permission to

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Pravda.Ru


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Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik widura
Bentar lagi keluar aturan setiap yg mau sholat mesti diperiksa dulu... 
-Original Message-
From: anjingloall anjingloall 
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:57:23 
To: 
Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

xixixixi sekarang lage padah cyari kambeng congeknyah.

2011/4/15 ayub yahya 

>
>
> iya bener ada jihad,
> Salah satu korban identifikasi adalah Kapolres Cirebon Ajun Komisaris Besar
> Edi Mardianto.
>
>
> http://id.berita.yahoo.com/kapolres-jadi-korban-bom-bunuh-diri-di-masjid-20110414-234859-650.html
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/15/11, anjingloall anjingloall 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> t jangan bilang sapah2 yah, tadi ada jihat di cerbon.
>
> 2011/4/15 widura 
>
> > Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja
> > nyuruh saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Abbas" 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> > Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
> > kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun
> dan
> > cs nya
> > > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> > >
> > > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga
> > sadis
> > > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "bangmossad@..." 
> > > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > >
> > > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya, kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg
> > yg
> > > bukan yahudi, ya gitu...
> > >
> > > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: item abu 
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ndeboost 
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > >
> > > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan
> > > fitnah dan atau kriminal?
> > >
> > > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi
> > > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu
> tak
> > > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost
> > > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank.
> > >
> > > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan?
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu
> sbg
> > > kriminal?
> > > >
> > > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu
> sesama
> > > lu yg
> > > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu?
> > > >
> > > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal
> > > si
> > > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya
> malu
> > > drpd
> > > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka yg merasa dirinya adalah
> > > seekor
> > > > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu
> berfikirpun
> > > > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad.
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®"
> > > > cha6966@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Tahukah anda jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah
> > > > kandang dengan ukuran
> > > > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun,
> > > > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari
> sejauh
> > > > 3-3,5m.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari,
> > > > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam
> > > kandang
> > > > kecil tanpa penutup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi
> > > > yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya,
> > > > > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat
> > > > dasar

Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik anjingloall anjingloall
xixixixi sekarang lage padah cyari kambeng congeknyah.

2011/4/15 ayub yahya 

>
>
> iya bener ada jihad,
> Salah satu korban identifikasi adalah Kapolres Cirebon Ajun Komisaris Besar
> Edi Mardianto.
>
>
> http://id.berita.yahoo.com/kapolres-jadi-korban-bom-bunuh-diri-di-masjid-20110414-234859-650.html
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/15/11, anjingloall anjingloall 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> t jangan bilang sapah2 yah, tadi ada jihat di cerbon.
>
> 2011/4/15 widura 
>
> > Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja
> > nyuruh saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Abbas" 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> > Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
> > kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun
> dan
> > cs nya
> > > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> > >
> > > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga
> > sadis
> > > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "bangmossad@..." 
> > > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > >
> > > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya, kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg
> > yg
> > > bukan yahudi, ya gitu...
> > >
> > > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: item abu 
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ndeboost 
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > >
> > > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan
> > > fitnah dan atau kriminal?
> > >
> > > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi
> > > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu
> tak
> > > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost
> > > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank.
> > >
> > > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan?
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu
> sbg
> > > kriminal?
> > > >
> > > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu
> sesama
> > > lu yg
> > > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu?
> > > >
> > > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal
> > > si
> > > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya
> malu
> > > drpd
> > > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka yg merasa dirinya adalah
> > > seekor
> > > > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu
> berfikirpun
> > > > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad.
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®"
> > > > cha6966@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Tahukah anda jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah
> > > > kandang dengan ukuran
> > > > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun,
> > > > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari
> sejauh
> > > > 3-3,5m.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari,
> > > > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam
> > > kandang
> > > > kecil tanpa penutup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi
> > > > yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya,
> > > > > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat
> > > > dasarnya.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri
> > > > sendiri.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nah...
> > > > >
> > > > > Ternyata banyak dari kita,
> > > > > juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah,
> > > fokus
> > > > terus

[proletar] Bom Meledak di Masjid Polresta Cirebon + Kapolres Cirebon Terluka

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik sunny
Ref : Apakah mesjid Polresta ini milik Ahmadiyah? 

http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/15/12511072/Bom.Meledak.di.Masjid.Polresta.Cirebon


Lima Orang Terluka, Pelaku Tewas
Bom Meledak di Masjid Polresta Cirebon
Rini Kustiasih | Glori K. Wadrianto | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 12:51 WIB 


CIREBON, KOMPAS.com - Sebuah ledakan terjadi di masjid yang berada di areal 
markas Kepolisian Resor Cirebon, Jawa Barat, Jumat (15/4/2011). Berdasarkan 
informasi yang dihimpun, ledakan terjadi sesaat sebelum jemaah yang memadati 
masjid memasuki rakaat pertama ibadat shalat Jumat.
Setidaknya lima orang terluka, dan saat ini korban dibawa ke RS Labuhan, 
Cirebon. Dikabarkan ada satu orang tewas dalam peristiwa ini.

"Pukul 12.15 saat baru akan dimulai, baru Allahu Akbar, tiba-tiba terdengar 
suara ledakan, bum gitu. Meledak," kata wartawan Kompas, Rini Kustiasih, yang 
saat ini berada di lokasi kejadian. 

"Kabarnya satu tewas," kata Rini. "Pihak kepolisian belum memberikan 
keterangan," ujar Rini. 



http://regional.kompas.com/read/2011/04/15/13292331/Kapolres.Cirebon.Terluka

Bom Cirebon
Kapolres Cirebon Terluka
Rini Kustiasih | Heru Margianto | Jumat, 15 April 2011 | 13:29 WIB 
 
CIREBON, KOMPAS.com - Kapolres Kota Cirebon AKBP Herukoco menjadi korban dalam 
ledakan bom yang terjadi di dalam masjid yang terletak di areal Mapolresta 
Cirebon, Jawa Barat, Jumat (15/4/2011). Kepastian itu diberikan Wali Kota 
Cirebon Subardi yang ditemui wartawan saat akan meninggalkan kompleks 
Mapolresta Cirebon. 

Namun, Subardi enggan menjelaskan lebih jauh seberapa parah luka yang dialami 
Kapolres. "Kapolres masih bisa berjalan dan berkomunikasi," kata Subardi.

Kompleks Mapolresta Cirebon masih disterilkan. Puluhan wartawan tertahan di 
depan pintu gerbang Malporesta. "Saya cuma lihat beberapa kali ambulans 
bertuliskan polisi keluar-masuk kompleks," kata wartawan Kompas, Rini 
Kustiasih. 

Bom yang meledak saat shalat Jumat sekitar pukul 12.30 tersebut membuat satu 
orang tewas dan sedikitnya 17 orang terluka. Korban tewas diduga adalah pelaku 
bom bunuh diri. Para korban dibawa ke RS Pertamina dan Pelabuhan.

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Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam

2011-04-15 Terurut Topik ayub yahya
iya bener ada jihad,
Salah satu korban identifikasi adalah Kapolres Cirebon Ajun Komisaris Besar Edi 
Mardianto.
 
http://id.berita.yahoo.com/kapolres-jadi-korban-bom-bunuh-diri-di-masjid-20110414-234859-650.html

--- On Fri, 4/15/11, anjingloall anjingloall  wrote:



   



t jangan bilang sapah2 yah, tadi ada jihat di cerbon.

2011/4/15 widura 

> Suryana itu manusia fasis. Saat saya lagi debat sama tawang, tiba2 aja
> nyuruh saya berhenti posting karena ngga sesuai kemauannya.
> -Original Message-
> From: "Abbas" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:50:37
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
>
> Kang sur itu sangat moderat. Dia bisa bersahabat dengan siapa saja;
> kamu aja yang datang kemilis mo nyari musuh
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Hihihi ... gua jadi sadis krn gua bilang terang2an bhw si tawangalun dan
> cs nya
> > adalah bajingan keparat krn jadi tukang fitnah antara lain.
> >
> > Tp koq ada si suryana itu yg bermesraan dgn tawangalun dan cs nya, ga
> sadis
> > kayak gua. Bukannya si suryana itu katolik?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "bangmossad@..." 
> > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" 
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 10:14:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> >
> > Memang Yesus itu ada benarnya, kalo ajarannya diberikan pada bangsa2 yg
> yg
> > bukan yahudi, ya gitu...
> >
> > Yang ada mereka jadi sadis
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: item abu 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:32:48
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> > Coba lu bilang, si tawangalun itu tukang fitnah apa kagak.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ndeboost 
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 4:22:54 AM
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> >
> >
> > Kalau yg kamu postingkan adalah pemerkosa, adakah yg demikian ini bukan
> > fitnah dan atau kriminal?
> >
> > Kamu dkk adalah, KATEBE, re. Mat 7:6 bangsanya babi-anjing tau ga? Jadi
> > kalau kamu-kamu adalah non Yahudi namun ngaku pengikutnya Yesus lalu tak
> > parabi para anjing-babi jangan ngomong yg nDeboost mitenah. nDeboost
> > hanya merilay ucapan Yesus doank.
> >
> > Yesus, KATEBE ngajarin nyolong keledai menurut kamu kriminal bukan?
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hehehe kapan yah lu akan bilang sesama lu yg tukang fitnah itu sbg
> > kriminal?
> > >
> > > Udah omong gede ngefitnah itu adalah perbuatan kriminal, begitu sesama
> > lu yg
> > > ngefitnah, kontan lu diam sama sekali. Kemana tuh omong gede lu?
> > >
> > > Si tawangalun udah kabur krn malu ketauan bejadnya, dlm beberapa hal
> > si
> > > tawangalun itu lebih jujur ngasih tau pendapatnya dan lebih punya malu
> > drpd
> > > rata2 orang Islam disini, hehehe...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 3:47:01 AM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Renungan Malam
> > >
> > >
> > > Memang demikianlah, berlaku bagi mereka yg merasa dirinya adalah
> > seekor
> > > elang atau lebah atau khewan lainnya. Utk manusia yg mampu berfikirpun
> > > ada yg membatasinya, bukannya tidak berhad.
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®"
> > > cha6966@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tahukah anda jika kita masukan seekor burung elang dalam sebuah
> > > kandang dengan ukuran
> > > > 2 m x 2,5 m & bagian atapnya terbuka sekalipun,
> > > > tetap elang itu tidak bisa terbang.
> > > >
> > > > Ternyata elang akan memulai terbang dari tanah dengan berlari sejauh
> > > 3-3,5m.
> > > >
> > > > Tanpa tempat untuk berlari,
> > > > elang ini tidak akan mampu terbang & terjebak selamanya dalam
> > kandang
> > > kecil tanpa penutup.
> > > >
> > > > Tahu jugakah anda jika seekor lebah yang jatuh kedalam cangkir kopi
> > > yang terbuka, juga akan tetap di sana sampai mati.
> > > >
> > > > Lebah tidak pernah lihat jalan keluar pada bagian atasnya,
> > > > melainkan terus berusaha cari jalan keluar lewat pinggir dekat
> > > dasarnya.
> > > >
> > > > Cari jalan di mana tidak ada jalan, hingga ia menghancurkan diri
> > > sendiri.
> > > >
> > > > Nah...
> > > >
> > > > Ternyata banyak dari kita,
> > > > juga seperti burung elang & lebah itu, bergumul dengan masalah,
> > fokus
> > > terus dengan masalah, mengeluh terus sampai akhirnya frustasi sendiri.
> > > >
> > > > Sadarilah bahwa jawaban dari masalah kita adalah selalu DIATAS,
> > yaitu
> > > >
> > > > TUHAN
> > > >
> > > > Menengadahlah,
> > > > Ucapkanlah doa, & lepas landaslah dalam BERTINDAK mencari solusi.
> > > >
> > > > LAKUKAN & LAKUKAN LAGI & TERUS BERJUANG !!!
> > > >
> > > > Keep fight !!!
> > > >
> > >

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